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Expert17:
He took Spurs to UCL final without a single signing...OLE will relegate Man City/Liverpool if he fails to sign a player.

It was a fluke, bro. Reaching a final and losing isn’t an achievement. It’s failure.

He was Aguero’s offside decision from getting eliminated.

Android17:
Yes, he had lost the plot because he had quarreled with Daniel Levy amidst United rumours. People forget that Ole was to be interim for united to get Poch. They only changed plans because Ole beat Tuchel and Poch was fired by THFC.

He had lost the plot?

Why would Poch leave the current team he’s managing for United if he has any ambition? Why would any manager want to quit managing Messi/Neymar/Mbappe and opt for McFred/Maguire/Shaw?

It should tell you a lot about Poch’s loser mentality.

Android17:
Every manager has failures (Aston Villa beat Klopp 7-2 just last season). So no, you cannot make an argument against Poch using Ole.

No away win from January to November(when he was deservedly sacked).

Not even Ole was that poor.

Android17:
No. Poch won the Coupe de France and Trophees des Champions last season with PSG. He finished a point behind first because he met the team at 3rd from Tuchel.

So his first major trophy was at PSG where even a goat could win a trophy?

Nothing won at Espanyol, Southampton and Spurs?

The point is Tuchel won something even before going to PSG. These margins are very important.

Android17:
Poch coached Espanyol and Southampton. He is going to have the worst winning percentage.

The same Poch(with a much better squad) finished 3rd in a 2 horse race with Ranieri’s Leicester.

The same Poch went a whole year without an away win with an attack including Kane, Son, Eriksen, Alli, Llorente, etc.

The same Poch copped only 26 points in his last 24 PL games at Spurs.

The same Poch lost 2-7 scandalously to Bayern Munich at home.

The same Poch took beatings from lowly rated Colchester and Brighton before he got sacked. He had a better squad than those two clubs.

I can actually make an argument that Ole is marginally better than Poch.

MRTA7:
Carrick is an idiot and should go and do his work placement somewhere else. He needs to be chased out of Carrington.

Carrick could become Hansi Flick.

He won’t be the first underrated interim manager to turn things around.

Oasis007:
Lineup



Carrick with balls.

There’s little hope, no Luke Shaw.

Silentgroper:
I think u guys havent made a formal approach for erik.. But it's crystal clear that he wont be joining, at least till nxt season.. So poch is man.u's best bet..

Carrick should remain as caretaker until any of the United targets is available. At least with Carrick, the expectations are minimal.

Poch is the worst of the lot. It is going to be another Ole cycle again. After 3 years, Poch would leave the club in 15th position without winning anything.

Why should United sack Ole for this?

Botfuss:

Erik ten Hag on occupying spaces to vacate other spaces for teammates to arrive into: pic.twitter.com/rJBQhlk4IJ

— Caño Football (@CanoFootball) November 17, 2021

You guys should watch that. Ole could never.
You’d be impressed by the attack but also pause and look at their defenders when they attack. Our next coach In sha Jesus.

This is exactly what Carragher was saying about Ole. Carragher said he likes listening to managers’ perspective about games. How they analyze or how they set up attacks and discuss the specifics.

He said each time he tries to listen to Ole, he never speaks about these things(creating spaces, overloading one flank, etc). All you hear from Ole is DNA, attack attack attack, United tradition, etc.

Ole will never break a game down into specifics. He cannot tell you why/how a goal was scored. He doesn’t understand any of these things. It’s just vibes and insha allah.

Android17:
Poch like every coach has his failures. I feel some of his successes however minor are being underplayed. He does have good recruitment strategy, develops young players, plays attacking football and can manage a dressing room. He may not be on the level of the top 3 teams but he has bested both Klopp and Pep that one season in 2016-17. With United's financial muscle, who is to say he may not do better? We all call Tuchel now in the same breath as Pep and Klopp but it would have been blasphemy by this same time last season.

Tuchel had won the German cup in 16/17, a couple of league titles with PSG, etc.

Poch was in the PL for almost 7 years and he won nothing throughout.

Panther7:
]Joe Glazer bawo? Where you una dey hear all these reports??
Joe knows nothing about football or football managers.

Joel Glazer’s first choice is Zidane.

MRTA7:
I dont care for Poch at all. My question is what are the other options?

Other options are the Ajax dude or Ragnick.

And this is my problem with the Glazers. During the summer, there were about 7 top managers without a job. That was when they should have axed Ole but they waited and waited until all those managers got jobs.

Android17:
Every other manager would have a bad away record against the top 6. Poch did beat all of them at home as well.

Poch is shit. In a 2-horse race that he was involved in with Leicester in 15/16, he still managed to finish 3rd. Is Poch better than Ole?

Their highest finish = 2nd
Both of them bottled a European final.

So I am asking again, why should United sack Ole and sign Poch? I’d rather they re-hire Ole than sign Poch. I don’t see how Poch would improve the current United side.

Android17:
Zidane is living in Madrid. His wife is in Madrid too. They prefer the weather there which is part of why he was rejecting United. He also does not speak English beyond exchanging pleasantries. That is why it is easy to reject United.

Manchester’s weather is terrible to be honest. It’s always raining or drizzling there. No one would swap the weather in Madrid for Manchester unless the money is totally worth it.

The language barrier is no issue at all. There are many French speaking players in the squad. Bielsa can’t speak a word in English and he’s been in England for how many years now.

MRTA7:
Well Woodward is useless. So if you're depending on that then we're finished.

There has also been lots of talk that Zidane has no interest in coming to England and his wife has even come out to say the same. so I'm not sure how much we can offer that will change his mind. Zizou seems to only want the national team job.

Joel Glazer has cranked up the pressure as at yesterday night to get Zidane by all means necessary. His wife can stay in France.

Zidane can take the Eurostar to see her every now and then. It’s 2 hours trip by Train(less time than some people spend commuting to work).

Pochettino’s record in the PL is nothing to write home about. If Pochettino is the answer then there was no reason to sack Ole.

Why should we go from Ole to this?

MRTA7:
Zidane is not available. Who's your 2nd choice?

Zidane is available, Woodward is yet to present an offer he cannot refuse.

The next World Cup ends around Christmas 2022. So the earliest Zidane can take the French National Team job is January 2023.

If we cannot convince Zidane to manage United between now and 2023 then it’s our fault, not his fault. United should go back with an improved package and a promise that he would have total control of transfers and adequate funds would be provided.

slimghost:
I wonder how people would choose Zizou over Poch. Zizou’s only success came in a star studded Madrid side.
I really want to see him succeed outside Madrid first. I have seen Poch at Soton, Spurs and PSG. He might not be the best out there but I will gladly take him over Zizou.
We need that mad pressing. Time for those lazy ass players to work their arses off.

So you would take Poch who has won nothing meaningful in his career over Zizou that won La Liga(twice) and UCL(3 times in a row).

The only thing you can guarantee with Poch is finishing in the top 4. United won’t stay satisfied with finishing top 4 with the squad at their disposal. Anything short of winning the league/CL will be considered failure and I don’t think Poch can challenge Pep/Klopp/Tuchel.

Was it not the same Poch that allowed Leicester to win the league in 2015/16 even though he had a better squad than Leicester? Poch is shit. He’s like Moyes. Just because he can thrive in a team that has top 4 as it’s target does not mean he’s ready to take a massive club like United to a league title.


Zidane knows what it takes to win the big trophies, Poch does not have a clue. His team will play good football and then lose the vital games when it matters. I already experienced that under Ole(bottling 6 semifinals against minnows). If Zidane is available, he should be the #1 choice. A proper winner should be managing United, not apprentices like Ole or Poch.

Roland17:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WaDOB2zELI

Dedicated to United fans, not limited to Inners, outers, fencist, deckers.. Awon plastic, metal, wood fans are welcome to enjoy this jam.

Poch is shit but anyone better than Ole is welcome for now.

However, if Poch screws up, he would get sacked too. The Glazers have now shown that handing a contract to any manager isn’t a bulletproof vest.

They have now sacked Mourinho/Ole in the same year they were given a new contract. The fact that Poch wants to leave a team that has Messi/Mbappe/Neymar to United should tell even the dumbest person that Poch has no ambition.

Let Poch come, the same standards applied to Jose and Ole shall be applied to him. He has no excuses but to deliver. He’s managed in this league before so he would even get less leeway than Ole. At this point, only Zidane makes sense. If he’s not available, any other person shall be welcome.

Joezinho:
Mourinho is a king. A football legend. A demigod.

Congrats to Roma fans. Keep supporting José Mário dos Santos Mourinho Félix.. It will do you wonders..

I’m happy if he is happy there..

He’s the best.

I'm extremely delighted. Grateful to Mister #JoseMourinho @ASRomaEN 💛❤ pic.twitter.com/SPuRpZlpjo

— Felix Afena Ohene-Gyan (@ohenegyanfelix9) November 22, 2021

Wanbissaka:
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melodyogonna:
Lol, nobody likes getting embarrassed in the public, especially not in front of the whole world, If you don't understand that then kudos. You should know that people already made their decisions about how they hold Mourinho, we're not kids, or grandparents with dementia.

Shaw’s performance on the pitch has already embarrassed him. Mourinho repeating what he saw on the pitch does not add any damage. Everyone can see an underperforming player.

How has it worked for Ole that doesn’t like embarrassing his players in public? You want players to improve but you don’t want them to understand there are consequences for failure? How would that player improve?

This is why Jose has 25 major trophies in his career and Ole has 0.

Lest I forget, Mourinho has kept his promise with the Ghanaian kid. This is bullying according to you. Buying Balenciaga boots worth €800 for a kid that was playing for a high school in Ghana last year is bullying.

melodyogonna:
I don't know about you, but I would think the press conference is not a very good place to call out your players.

What’s wrong with saying the truth that most people already know.

Everyone knows player XYZ is shit. We all saw his performance during the game so why would saying the truth about player XYZ in a press conference considered a felony?

It’s almost as if people demand the truth all the time but they are not ready to be told the truth if it puts them in a negative light. Mourinho is the most honest manager in the game. He says things as he sees it, no sugarcoating.

If Shaw is shit then let it be known he’s shit.

melodyogonna:
Mourinho bullies everyone. It's one of his best and worst attributes. It's one of the main reasons he always almost wins something, it's also one of the main reason he doesn't last long.

Yeah, challenging players to do better in a job they are paid millions of pounds is bullying.

If the player responds to his methods, who takes the credits? When Hazard won all the individual accolades in 14/15 season, did Mourinho steal the awards from him?

melodyogonna:
But why does it need a reminder?
It's not like anyone here was born five years ago, surely we all witnessed all the managers since Sir Alex retired?
Mourinho does not need whitewashing from anyone to make anyone take him as the best.

Apparently, he does.

You were here when people said he bullied Shaw or he doesn’t do well with young players.

melodyogonna:
I don't know the deal with you and Mourinho, he has not been United's manager for about 3 years now.

To remind you Olesexuals that he’s the best we have had since SAF retired.

Ole is a United legend so is O’Shea or Anderson.

slimghost:
I was wondering if it’s not the same Ole I watched?. Good player but couldn’t force his way into the team multiple seasons albeit his injuries played some part in that.
Take away that goal in 1999 and his legendary status would be up for debates.

The standards were set too low for him. It’s ridiculous and people are paying tributes like he won us a treble before the sack.

I cannot pay any nonsense tribute to a manager that won nothing or pay tribute because he’s a nice guy. Football is a result business. If I am looking for a nice guy, I would visit a church or a mosque.

Wanbissaka:
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Are you OleIn or OleOut?

Joezinho:
Can we put Ole Gollum and George best on the same level? Or Bobby Charlton? Or Rooney? What exactly did the Gollum do for the club that the likes of Chicharito, Park ,Berbatov, RVP , O'Shea and co didn't do?

He scored in a UCL final. Beletti did it.

Jerzy dudek was the hero when Liverpool won it.

The Gollum spent 11 years at the club. O'Shea spent 11 years at man utd and played more games. Does that make O'Shea a club legend?

He won the 99 UCL for united because he was at the right place . Lest not forget that sherringham also got us the equalizer. Beletti came off the bench too to help Barcelona to a 2-1 UCL victory.. Does that make Beletti a Barca legend. My late dad loved Ole Gollum and he was a staunch shekpite.. Why? Because of the way he love smiling.

Ole was a good player but the term "United legend" is a very exclusive club and I just don't think Ole is good enough to get in that group..

Ole cannot clean Rooney’s boot never mind sharing the legendary status with Rooney.

Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, George Best, Ryan Giggs, etc are the legends. Ole isn’t one of them but English people are weird for a reason.

They are the only group of people I know who would focus on irrelevant factors/indices other than the primary objective.

If you are a footballer who runs a lot(despite contributing nothing to the team), English people would love you for the endeavor. If you smile a lot too, you would get their love.

This is why the 3 Lions haven’t won a spoon in 55 years. Southgate continues to fail as a manager and he just got another contract signed this morning, there are rumors he might even get a knighthood and he has won nothing.

In any other football country, Southgate would be sacked. The main objective in other places is to win a trophy, other factors rarely matter to them but the reverse is the case in England.

Joezinho:
For a club like united to see ole Gollum as a legend is shocking. We all know why he's called a legend Sha .

"Certificate of long term service "

The word legend has been abused. Bayern Munich weren’t going into that final thinking about the damage Ole might cause them. He was never in their plans of the players to shadow.

That could have contributed to the reason why he scored that goal. No one paid him no mind. He was no existential threat to Ossei-Kuffour. Pundits have also erased Ted Sheringham’s contribution out of that story. Yet it was Ted that scored the equalizer and also assisted the Ole goal with a flick of his head.

If you go on the streets of the red half of Manchester today and ask any kid, they would tell you how legendary Ole is but they might not even know who Ted is. That’s what smiling and being a decent human being can get you in England. A player that smiles gets more media coverage than the one that doesn’t regardless of their contribution on the pitch.

Ole’s PR machine is more legendary than the player.

jOsE mOUriNHo dOEs nOT liKE YoUNG pLaYErS.

This is how Mourinho motivates young players. Those with ambition simply take the challenge and do better. Lazy idiöts like Shaw and Martial take this subtle challenges as bullying and wilt from the pressure.

Luke “I have proven Mourinho wrong” Shaw has gone back to his gutter standards. Many people claim he’s improved under Ole but he didn’t. He only stepped it up a bit when he realized he was about to be replaced by Telles.

18 year old Ghanaian rose to Jose’s challenge and he would be getting a new pair of boots this morning. With Jose, you either swim or sink. There’s no coddling or pampering like Ole does.

MRTA7:
Just admit you didnt watch United then.

I don’t think Expert17 is wrong in Ole’s assessment as a player. He wasn’t good enough to start many of the games in that great team. Ole was a substitute player at best. His legendary status came in one moment of toe-poking in a final.

In 20 years time, Liverpool fans would be singing Divock Origi’s name as a legend because he came in as a substitute in a Champions League final to score an important goal for Klopp, yet we hardly ever see Origi in a Liverpool shirt start a game.

Ole scored 92 PL goals in 10 seasons, that’s hardly a legendary achievement.

handelex:
Well Ole's gone now and we might disagree on whether he loves the club or not but I know he truly loves the club and wanted badly to succeed, but it is what it is.

I wish him all the best.

He will forever be the clueless one.

The worst manager in living memory.