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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:50pm On Oct 29, 2021

AnfieldFan:
Klopp gave Mainz there first Bundlesliga appearance with no money...

Call me when Guardiola wins the champ league without Messi..

Why are you comparing promotion from the 2nd division to winning the CL?

Look at some of the decisions Pep had to make while delivering the sextuple? He got rid of Ronaldinho, Deco, Zambrotta, etc.

These are huge decisions Klopp wouldn’t have made in Pep’s shoes. Yes, he had Messi but plenty of other managers have had Messi without delivering.

The fact that you are actually comparing a mere promotion to winning the CL already tells me you don’t even believe the two of them are at the same level.

Pep is light years ahead of Klopp, so is Zidane.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:19pm On Oct 29, 2021

AnfieldFan:
ND give them the Champions league..
Something Pep won't attempt in his life time

Pep won the Sextuple as a rookie!

He’s a better manager than Klopp.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:12pm On Oct 29, 2021

raumdeuter:
He will go to Ac Milan Valencia or Napoli next

or Nottingham Forest. cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:09pm On Oct 29, 2021

AnfieldFan:
Chelsea had a better team...He would have delivered immediately...

No chance!!!

Klopp’s gengenpressing needs time. There was no way Klopp would have incorporated Hazard, Matic and Fabregas to be running like headless chickens to press for the ball.

The project would have taken him at least 2-3 years and Roman would have issued his P45 after a year. Klopp played it smart by choosing a club that hadn’t won a league title in 25 years.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:52pm On Oct 29, 2021

AnfieldFan:
The popular opinion every where is that the top two managers in world football currently are Klopp and Pep....

Zidane doesn't factor in... Sorry...

Klopp is a better manager than Zidane? On which planet?

These Liverpool fans have the most horrendous takes in football discourse.

The other day, one of them also said the current Salah is better than peak Ronaldo.

Klopp has benefited from joining a club that had no standards or who weren’t expecting much when he joined them.

Had Klopp joined Chelsea instead of Liverpool in 2015, he would have been sacked in 2016 or 2017 and forced to join Stuttgart or some soulless football club in Germany.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:47pm On Oct 29, 2021

kokanepyramid:
How much is your respect for him worth. Can it pay bills.?

It’s worth more than the condoms needed to prevent your conception.

Cantankerous cünt!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:39pm On Oct 28, 2021

AnfieldFan:
First, Busquets didn't win the man of the match...Benzema did and from your stats,he was better...Incase you didn't know, despite rarely getting the ball played to him because of the Spanish press in midfield,Benzema created more chances than Pogba..He created 4...
On to Busquets, he won the player of the tournament and rightfully so as he was Spain's most outstanding player..
If not for a certain Tchouameni in that midfield, France would have been toast...

This ratings you showed is an opinionated one. This is why it all appears as whole numbers. Journalists watch the game and give opinions based on prejudices, covert racism, etc. I don’t pay attention to such.

The ratings I gave you are backed by stats. It’s not a journalist’s opinion. They are ratings based wholly on statistics devoid of prejudices or color of skin. Opinions aren’t facts, statistics are facts.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:24am On Oct 28, 2021

AnfieldFan:
I have no business with which midfielder in France posted better Stats,Tchouameni had the most interceptions and ball recovery of the france midfield ..He helped regain Possession many times for them...
But that's not the point, the point is Pogba came out second best in a match that had Busquets in it...

He didn't win man of the match neither did he win player of the tournament despite his team lifting the trophy...But you would rather have us believe it's because of bias sentiments from UEFA instead of the hard work of other players...
What sort of mental gymnastics is this?

Pogba was better than Busquets in that final.

Busquets won MOTM based on sentiments and perhaps the covert racism that plagues European football at the top level. This isn’t to say Busquets was a slouch, he used the ball extremely well but I just think Pogba showed more attributes of a complete midfielder than the octopus of Badia.

Pogba had more dribbles, won more ground duels, made more clearances, blocked more shots. Two different sports sites who use OPTA stats to track individual metrics actually had Pogba as the highest rated midfielder or the best player on the pitch in that final.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:17am On Oct 28, 2021

adebayo201:
On the other hand, irrespective of the outcome on Saturday, this board should just respect themselves and relief this guy of him duty. He Don get blood for him hand already. Let Olè just go and enjoy his family.

Why can’t Ole just respectfully resign and admit this project is too big for him.

My respect for him would be through the roof. Ole the player’s legendary status for Man Utd is few tiers below that of Gattuso of AC Milan.

Gattuso did a self check and resigned. He even asked the club not to pay him any compensation. That’s a true legend. A man who puts the interest of the club before himself.

Ole is just happy to be collecting salary(£7m per year).

He’s a criminal.

Off and on the pitch, Gattuso is a better individual than OLE.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:31pm On Oct 27, 2021

This Pavard is a fool.

One v One with goalkeeper and he played a back pass. He just ruined that Bayern counter with an awful shot.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:24pm On Oct 27, 2021

Mrviktor:
Who said we don't train

Is that Phil Jones?

Why do I think Jones is a better CB than Maguire and should start against Spurs?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:15pm On Oct 27, 2021

raumdeuter:
Its like me facing Tyson Fury without fear tactics, EVen Klopp and Pep know when to play conservative. Liverpool vs City first half, Klopp sef respected himself when City were pressing him and about to go haywire until he was able to rally his troops in the at half time

Lewandoski breaking Gerd Mullers record is not beans

That is if the report is true. WOnder have happened in the past and we cant rule it out again

Klopp that parked the bus in the CL final against Pochettino. After scoring that first goal, Klopp changed his tactics.

Smart managers know when to pick their fights or when to shore up their defence. Klopp knew better than to risk it all and lose another European final.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:41pm On Oct 27, 2021

AnfieldFan:
Yea...But you people shouldn't sack him ooo..He's building something special which requires specific Man United DNA..

OLEIN
OLE4EVER
WELOVEOLE

Where my fellow Ole supporters at..
Fall out...

I heard City fans singing Ole at the wheels in tonight’s game.

Leeds fans sang it last night, Liverpool fans sang it on Sunday.

The level of embarrassment has peaked. Rival fans wanting Ole to stay desperately is a sign that he’s the most useless manager in the history of the club.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:35pm On Oct 27, 2021

raumdeuter:
I even thought he will play 4-4-2 defensive. Same lineup, drop Greenwood for Pogba clutter the middle and play a low block

But because he lacked the nous and confidence. He opened up and Liverpool cut through him like hot knife in butter

He has to pretend he’s a modern manager. The likes of Elampiro loves such approach. Elampiro said he likes that Ole plays against anyone without fear.

Without fear tactics = 5 goals conceded at home. cheesy

In another news, I heard Lewandowski is the ballon d’Or winner for 2021. He should have won it last season as well. COVID-19 and rubbish politics robbed him off what he highly deserved.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:19pm On Oct 27, 2021

raumdeuter:
Where was Maguire in all these moment, I think he just runs around as the spirit lead forcing other players to come cover for him and exposing the other side

I wont blame Maguire too because he even looked better under Rodgers at Leicester even under Southgate but once everyone gets to Ole, it scatters

Ole is an idiöt!

Even a mosquito knows about Klopp’s gengenpressing tactics. Yet, Ole still asked his defenders that are useless in possession to build from the back.

I remember the Liverpool game at OT under Mourinho. He specifically warned his defenders not to dawdle on the ball anywhere 30 yards from De Gea. All the goal kicks were long kicks to Lukaku.

No serious team wants to invite pressure on themselves against Liverpool. Even elite managers like Pep have since confessed that Liverpool are the best team at pressing he’s ever faced in his career.

United couldn’t even successfully pass their way around Iheanacho and Vardy - and that lunatic Ole stuck to the same tactics just to prove he’s a progressive modern manager. Tottenham should just end his misery this weekend.

I have had enough of Ole’s incompetence.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:01pm On Oct 27, 2021

elampiro:
https://www.facebook.com/DailyMailSport/videos/280586017279364/

Illimitable come and see your man

Elite manager.

He puts his blood and soul in his job. Your darling manager(Ole) could borrow a leaf from Mourinho’s application.

Mourinho never lost to Klopp at Old Trafford. Your ultra-attacking, progressive modern manager shipped 5 goals in one game. cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:58pm On Oct 27, 2021

AnfieldFan:
While I agree with most of what you wrote, I'm pointing out what caused our first goal and the pattern of some of the goals you've conceded this season... Inability to press as a team... Pressing simply means making your opponents put the ball in places you can recover easier due to mistakes for easier transitions...
We can do this very well and more importantly, we can do it as a team which dates back to Klopp's first game in charge where Lallana collapsed into Klopp's arms after the match, he had never been part of or undertaken something so energy demanding...
My point is, while Shaw is average or even below average, It stems from fundamental flaws in your teams set up which stops at Ole's table..
Rodgers referenced this in his post match...

We are not necessarily talking at cross purposes here, we are just highlighting different flaws. Ole is definitely a culprit. I never saw this total defence collapse under Mourinho or LVG.

Just look at these images…..

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:44pm On Oct 27, 2021

Mrviktor:
Una self ehhh..

Who in our current midfield is better dan pogba.

Name 1.

Name 2 self.. Join dem together dem no reach one pogba.

.

Is is Fred.
Is it Mac.
Is it VDB

Make we hear word jare.
In talent
In achievement.
In skill.
In class.

He is milles ahead of dem.

Make d pogba hate end biko

Pogba is our best midfielder. He can do everything. Ole’s cluelessness cannot be a yardstick to assess Pogba. Just watch Pogba in France and you don’t need an oracle to tell you he’s a world class player.

Many people have said Pogba shines for France because of Kante but that theory has been put to bed twice now in 2 finals as Pogba still shone like a billion stars without the diminutive Kante.

Pogba is better than Henderson, Keita, Thiago or any other central midfielder at Liverpool. Ole’s incompetence to build a functional midfield should not in anyway tarnish Pogba’s awesomeness. Under a good manager, Pogba is a nuclear weapon - the sort of player no team wants to play against.

Get Ole out.

Mrviktor:
TBH.
TELLES NO SABI DEFEND. A

HE'S LIKE DALOT.
But also that shaw wing has produced 70% of all d goals we conceded

I would still take Telles over Shaw.

Have you been noticing the amount of times Shaw and Maguire collides with each other on the pitch while trying to defend?

Instead of Shaw to mark opponents, he is always marking Maguire. I don’t know if it’s Ole’s instruction or the stupidity of the English defenders in our squad, you should notice they always try to hold each other’s hands when defending.

AWB would tuck in, makes body contact with Lindelof and leaves acres of space in the right channel. Remember the match against Brighton last season - Brighton’s winger should have scored a hat trick in that game with the amount of chances we conceded from crosses. AWB did it again against Leipzig away and they knocked us out of UCL(Angelino scored a screamer).

Shaw does the same with Maguire. They have no positional sense, no positional discipline, poor in possession(they treat the ball like it’s coronavirus). Apply little pressure and they lose possession faster than a $1 whöre. The entire starting defence unit should be stripped barebone. You cannot tell me Dalot-Bailly-Varane-Telles would play worse than what we have seen in the past 5 weeks.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:35pm On Oct 27, 2021*

AnfieldFan:
Want to point out something...The first goal happened because Greenwood couldn't effectively press Robertson..Bissaka moved up to cover Jota incase he got the ball... Mctominay moved inwards towards the right of the pitch to cover the space(This leaves a space in the middle which Salah drifts into..Shaw is confused, he's seeing massive spaces, because Lindelof has drifted to cover the massive space left by Bissaka...Maguire moves inwards to the right to cover for Lindelof ..Shaw doesn't know if he should tuck inside to play Salah offside or cover for his CB's...By the time Jota releases the ball, almost all your players are in a press that has no structure and was doomed to fail from the start because it's individual instead of being team press..
My point is, blaming Shaw alone for something that was clearly a team effort is a bit unfair... Even if Shaw was Virgil playing against us, we would still be through on goal in that exact situation...
Here's what your team looked like in the press before Salah, Firmino and Keita made their runs..

Come off it…..

Shaw’s criticism wasn’t only because of his pathetic performance against Liverpool. He has been shit all season. Most of the errors leading to a goal are from his area.

His combination with Maguire has to be the worst in the entire division. The two of them are like deer in the headlights when in possession. Go and watch the highlights against Leicester and tell me why a player so pathetic is even starting for Man Utd.

Telles had a decent game against Villareal - he even got a goal. What did Ole do next? Bench him for an unfit Shaw. Shaw pooped his pants at Leicester(made excuses that he was unfit) and still got rewarded with a start against Liverpool.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:17pm On Oct 27, 2021

raumdeuter:
If he is able to do this for France, He was able to do this for Juventus, why isnt he able to do for Man Utd?

This is because he has been playing under useless coaches from Mourinho (as evidenced by his career trajectory post Man Utd) and Ole as evidenced by his career pre Man Utd

Pogba playd well under Conte, Under Allegri under Deschamps

The problem is the coaching at Man Utd because Pogba while at Man Utd was still delivering top performances for his country either in 2018 or 2021

How many of your players are doing well consistently? Name 5. Just last week there are articles flooding the internet about how Ronaldo is the problem, A whole Ronaldo, One of the great ever seen is now a problem because of Ole

If Pogba had formed running stomach and not come on at 4-0 who would you have blamed for losing 4-0? The Pogba on the bench or who? Ronaldo? Bruno or who? But the moment Pogba managed to jog into the field, he became the scapegoat for everything that happened before and after he came on the field

Pogba played well under Mourinho until their falling out.

This is the Europa squad of the season in 2017(Pogba’s debut season under JM).

Every player Mourinho signed for Man Utd during the summer of 2016 made this squad.

Bailly
Mkhitaryan
Pogba
Zlatan.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:08pm On Oct 27, 2021

elampiro:
I am not making excuses for Luke Shaw, but in all the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th goals he was caught out of position, I did not see any winger tracking back to help him or cover for him. Hope goals scoring competition has not become a problem in the team? That is hoping that Greewood and Rashford are not looking to compete with Ronaldo for goals at the expense of the the team?

Wingers not tracking back is why Luke Shaw cannot build attacks from the back? cry

They were caught out of position because they kept losing the ball in transition. United concede so many chances in that manner because you people’s favorites are shit in possession.

The midfielders are high up the pitch - trying to launch an attack and then someone loses the ball and the defence is exposed. Henderson made one pass to unzip United’s defence for the 5th goal.

Shaw was no match for Salah’s pace and the rest was history. The other goals also came from Shaw’s area of the pitch - he cannot defend. He gets attracted to the ball and once the play is switched, Shaw is nowhere to be found.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:54pm On Oct 26, 2021

Joezinho:
We are officially fvcked.

What can i do to get my mind off this club? I just cant.

Fvck you SAF and fvck you Ole Gollum the serial failure..

It’s a hard one to take for them.

Sacking Ole right now is admitting they got it wrong with Mourinho so they are going to stick with him until it’s totally unreasonable to keep him in the job.

It serves them right.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:48pm On Oct 26, 2021

Searchingvictor:
Guys, abeg some1 should help with this question.

From November to April, match timings will be 1 hrs ahead of Nigerian Time and from May To Octobar, it'll be same again. Why's it like that?

Daylight savings time.

The people abroad fashioned a way to make better use or daylight by moving the clocks back or moving it forward.

I am guessing you live in Nigeria so this is sort of new to you. Nigeria is near the equator, day and night are nearly the same length (12 hours).

But elsewhere on Earth, there is much more daylight in the summer and there’s less daylight in the winter. In places like Vancouver in the winter, it’s already dark by 4pm in the evening and the sun won’t set again until about 8am in the morning.

This is why the clocks get moved up and down to make use of daylight and maybe to conserve energy/fuel/electricity, etc.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:05pm On Oct 26, 2021

Oasis007:
Donny van de Beek hopes that his new agent Ali Dursan can find him a new club.

- Times Sport

He has seen it all, time to Japa!

Ole has wasted 18 months of his career. I wish the poor lad well. He didn’t deserve this crap.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:59pm On Oct 26, 2021

hoopLA:
It's people like you across board globally who were giving the "progress" mantra a spin that have contributed to this mess.
You suddenly have found your tongue and decamped because the L is too gigantic to swallow and it keeps coming back up your gullet no matter how hard you try.

You're now pretending to be revolted by our fortunes when you and that closet slowpoke KingAlªbi were insulting those of us who'd seen enough and wanted him out.

Continue.

We know the serious minded people in here.

TALK!!!!!
TALK!!!!
TALK to that NIGGA!!!!

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:38pm On Oct 26, 2021

Karleb:
Yes, after spending how much again?

£1 billion. cheesy

Pep’s level was that debut season when he finished 4th. He lost 4-0 to Everton, lost 4-2 to Leicester.

Txiki Begiristain ran to Abu Dhabi to literally prostrate to Sheikh Mansour that Pep’s brand would be ruined forever if they don’t back him with millions of pounds in the summer window.

Pundits like Guillem Balagué was on social media crying everyday and begging people not to call Pep a fraud. Pep’s PR team weren’t going to let the brand die so they lobbied for £200m to fix City’s defence.

£200m is more than the defence budget of the entire West African states. £200m brought in record signings like Mendy, Stones, Ederson, etc and the rest was history. Even Pep said he ought to have been sacked as that was the first time he would complete a season without a trophy.

The Premier League broke Pep.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 2:09pm On Oct 26, 2021

ShadowWalker00:
Stupid Manure fans disrespecting goat Zidane.

A man that won Champions league 3x consecutively.

Raped Psg, Napoli, Bayern, Liverfool, Juventus, Athletico and basically destroyed everyone.

"He is not an elite coach", "He is not tactically flexible , no go find flexible wire ", "he was lucky".

Let your useless Ole gunnar nonsense do am if e easy .

Ole gunnar nonense till infinity, una no go stumble on better coach .

Please mention the stupid people by their usernames, don’t generalize all United fans as stupid.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:25pm On Oct 26, 2021

slimghost:
It’s now just a matter of time!

Alex Ferguson wants to give him one last chance.

Fabrizio Romano made a pre-recorded video last night that Ole got sacked. That was how dangerously close Ole was to losing his job.

The next few days won’t change anything too. The football has been dire for weeks and Pep would just add salt to injury.

This is the form table by the way(United are in a relegation form).

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 1:08pm On Oct 26, 2021

slimghost:
Fergie is one sentimental human. That’s how we got Nwoye as manager and now he has impressed on other board members to give this bastard another chance.
For what its worth, I will be supporting Spurs on Saturday.
Yes i will!!!!

Fergie is just postponing Ole’s evil days.

Ole has lost the dressing room and he still has to play Spurs, City, Chelsea and Arsenal in the coming weeks. The most he can get from those 4 fixtures is 3 points.

Ole should be gone by the next international break. The delay is because there’s no credible interim manager in the back room staff that can take over and they don’t want to leave the position in a vacuum.

Ole is a dead man walking.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:18pm On Oct 25, 2021

Who else is ready for some #ConteBall?

https://j.gifs.com/yw62R7.gif

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:55pm On Oct 25, 2021

Mrviktor:
Sacking ole would be hard on

D players.
D club.
D fanbase.
D legends.
D backroom staff.

Cuz in as much as the tactics aren't visible..

All goals conceded are individual errors..

After Ole spent £180m on defence with 3 years in the job, his team cannot build attack from the back.

How’s that not the manager’s fault? Once De Gea rolls the ball over to Maguire, there’s tension all over the box. With a little press from the opposition, United succumb to elementary errors.

It has happened over and over in the last 3 games. Opponents now know if they press Maguire and Lindelof, they would get a throw or a corner kick or an error leading to a shot on target.

It’s a disgrace.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:57pm On Oct 25, 2021

This is for those that are saying Ole is leaving Man Utd in a better condition than he met them.

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