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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:23pm On Nov 26, 2021
MorataFC:
Yes he ran, but the fugitive could not come to Chelsea when Abrahamovic gave him an open check ,he knew the man is no nonsense type,
he always go to stars studded team or a team where money can be spent and whenever he sees a threat to his team like the way Klopp and Tuchel is doing right now, he will run away.
He will soon run away, I can bet it with you.
Pep can only manage clubs that have the most resources in the league. His idea and style of playing requires plenty of money to bring to light. Pep manages club where it’s almost impossible to fail.

Is he an elite manager? Yes, he is but his projects are the most expensive anywhere on the planet and this is why people call him fraudiola whenever he fails to win with those expensive projects.

Pep cannot adapt, he only knows one way of playing. If the opponents manage to score once or twice before his team does, he’s totally clueless about how to wrestle the game back using another way.

Although, his plan A works 90% of the time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:02pm On Nov 26, 2021
elampiro:
We for just kukuma get Brenda Rogers
Rangnick is a far superior tactician than Rodgers.

Like I said, he’s The Godfather of the new breed of German coaches. If Klopp is regarded as the priest of Gegenpressing, Rangnick is the Pope.

BTW, This is the extensive list of his disciples.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:41pm On Nov 26, 2021
raumdeuter:
That's how you know those awards are fraud. KDB played 1, 983 league minutes out of a possible 3,425mins . Which is less than 60% of minutes played. I am sure we can pull 11 outfield players with more minutes than KdB
PFA award is about the best performer in the league, it’s never about the fittest or the strongest player. KDB’s 1983 minutes had more quality than his team mates that spent more minutes on the pitch.

KDB’s fellow professionals voted him as the best player in the league. The award wasn’t handed out by a panel of experts, the award was decided by a poll of all the professional players in the Premier League.

If KDB’s team mates think he’s the best player in the league(never mind the club), who are you to suggest otherwise. I told you the best performers in City for the last 5 years aren’t Pep’s signings and you are telling me about minutes spent??

If awards are decided by who plays the most minutes, Ederson or any of the goalkeepers that played in every PL minute last season should have won the award. You are conflating quality time spent on the pitch to quantity.

This is what happens whenever you are cornered. You start throwing all kinds of shït in the air, hoping that one would stick. So tell us how Pep strolled to the PL title without any of his signings acknowledged by his fellow professional footballers as the best player in the league.

You have 6 hours to respond.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:12am On Nov 26, 2021
elampiro:
Any coach who has so changed clubs frequently means he was being sacked. This is the case with our new coach. SAF, Wenger, have all been in a few clubs. Moyes sef would still be Everton coach if he did not get the United job.

But this our new coach has been changing clubs like big Sam
Carlo Ancelotti has been sacked 14 times in his career. He’s won more CL titles than SAF, Pep, Mourinho, Del Bosque, Heynckes, Hitzfeld, Arrigo Sacchi, etc.

It’s not about the number of sackings or the amount of jobs, it’s how much of an impactful manager he is. He’s an idol to Klopp, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, etc.

Chelsea wanted him as an interim manager after Lampard was sacked but he turned them down before Chelsea settled for Tuchel.

If you are looking forward to the club finally getting back on track instead of hiring a bunch of yes men like Moyes, Ole, etc, Ragnick is the best man available to guide United back on track.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:11pm On Nov 25, 2021
CrystalTiger:
Someone who idolises Moyes is always quick to tell the next person "you no know ball".. Smh
Elampiro is a special breed.

As far as he’s concerned, Moyes is better than Pep.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:10pm On Nov 25, 2021
elampiro:
But you support a new manager with less individual honours in a longer career time. This new manager only had Bayern Munich and may be Dortmund as the big teams he played. Moyes was had to face Manchester United (SAF), Arsenal (Wenger), Liverpool (Bernitez), Chelsea (Mourinho) Man City (Mancini, etc), Tottenham.
This new manager taught Tuchel, Klopp and Nagelsmann how to manage teams.

He’s The Godfather of the modern German managers. Go and do your research.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:15pm On Nov 25, 2021
liveLongNprospa:
Omo the training in the next few months will kill some players cheesy
I fully expect Shaw to hand in his transfer request to Norway in the coming days.

Pogba’s days could also be numbered if he doesn’t buckle up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:13pm On Nov 25, 2021
elampiro:
Moyes has this grin


Preston North End

LMA Manager of the Year: 2002–03, 2004–05, 2008–09[110]
Premier League Manager of the Month: November 2002, September 2004, January 2006, February 2008, February 2009, January 2010, March 2010, October 2010, September 2012, March 2013
Moyes is a failure if this is what he’s got in a managerial career that has spanned 23 years. Moyes win record stands at 42% and that figure was boosted by his 9 month stint at United(the only time he won more than half of the games he managed).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:09pm On Nov 25, 2021
liveLongNprospa:
He isn't going to sign as a permanent manager. He's been given the power to choose who the next manager will be while also being in charge of the football structure of Manchester united. Basically he is tasked with developing and implementing a footballing structure within the club.

That's why he initially refused to sign to be interim manager as he wanted more than that. He knows he's bigger than that and the board had to give in to him.
So even if the club doesn't win anything in 6 months, his role is much larger role than just coaching.
He would be in a consultancy role after the 6 months interim job. That’s a big giant step forward unlike having ex players there who know nothing about football.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:55pm On Nov 25, 2021
Mrviktor:
I have 3 questions.

Will regnick be allowed to sign anybody in January.

Will he be considered for permanent role.

And can he become director of football.
- He will be allowed to sign few players in January. There were rumors Woodward was getting a DM for Ole in January.

- His results would determine whether he gets the permanent role.

- They will never put him as director of football. Murtough is the DOF. The roles at United are mostly “job for the boys”. This is why Fletcher(with zero experience) is a technical director. Fletcher is SAF’s sugar baby from age 11 till date.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:47pm On Nov 25, 2021
elampiro:
I thought past trophies won, and CV matters while you guys talk about coach. Which big club has he coached and what are his number of trophies?
He’s the only one among the candidates willing to take the job as an interim manager.

The others want instant deal without being tested. Ragnick would be fine. I have no doubt about it. Just few tweaks and few replacements in the defence and this squad is good enough to challenge for the big trophies.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:36pm On Nov 25, 2021
Searchingvictor:
But we can't field Bruno, Fred and Donny at the same time
Ragnick will buy an elite DM in January.

None of the players we have is specialized in that department. They are half and half.

Donny said he can play there though and I think he should be tried there. The worst that could happen is to lose 5-0 - which already happened under Ole with his fixation on McFred.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:33pm On Nov 25, 2021
LostMyZeal:
That's the kinda mentality we need jare

Ruthlessness at all levels

If you no fit do....fvck off!
So Shaw will have to prove Ragnick wrong again after failing to prove Mourinho wrong?

When I said it here that Shaw was the most useless left back in the league, I nearly got lynched.

Time has spoken.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:30pm On Nov 25, 2021
raumdeuter:
Pep strolled to the league last season with a starting 11 of

Ederson walker zinchenko Dias Stones Rodri Gundogan Bernardo Foden Mahrez Jesus. Which of them was inherited?
Yeah, Sterling and KDB were dead last season.

KDB was so dead that he won PFA player of the season. He must have won it without kicking the ball for City. You just don’t give up when cornered.

The best performers for Man City in the past 5 years are not Pep’s signings. Anyone who can recite ABC knows that for a fact.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 12:10am On Nov 25, 2021
Panther7:
you forgot Pep bought many of the players in City. look at the quality of Pep's signings and compare it with Ole. Ole that bought Maguire and Wan bissaka.
The best performers at City aren’t even Pep’s signings.

Aguero
Sterling
David Silva
De Bruyne
Kompany(before retirement)
Fernandinho

That’s almost half of the team that made them centurions. So if a manager has spent £1 billion after inheriting 5-6 world class talents who are certified starters in his team, how won’t he win trophies?

I need somebody to educate me how Pep is overachieving at Man City.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:52pm On Nov 24, 2021
raumdeuter:
Pep is not spending from his pocket, the club is. When Pep leaves, he won't take the players with him. So how much has Man utd spent in the same time and how many titles to show
Rubbish.

Since Pep was hired, he’s spent £1 billion at City.

Find the equivalent manager in Man Utd that has spent as much as Pep has. That’s the correlation. Stop juxtaposing Pep Guardiola with Man Utd.

I mentioned a manager that spent £1 billion. Find the equivalent manager anywhere else in Europe then we can have a debate. If you cannot, shut up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 11:50pm On Nov 24, 2021
Panther7:
Bro let's play a scenario, if ole was at city and he was given the freedom to buy any player he wants will he win anything? Forget league will he win FA cup? Give credits to Pep abeg.
He will - based on the strength of the talents at his disposal. Poch won in France, not because he’s good at anything.

With Neymar, Di Maria and Mbappe, it’s almost impossible not to win with those. Ole would win something(not as quite as often as Pep) but he would have won Europa league last season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:52pm On Nov 24, 2021
raumdeuter:
How much has Man utd spent in the same time and how many league titles
one man spending £1 billion on his project is different from 3 managers spending £1 billion on different projects that required rebuilding.

Pep has spent £1 billion, not Man City. No United manager has spent £1 billion, that’s why your question started with how much Man Utd spent.

Why don’t you ask how much so so manager spent instead of Man Utd?

You people have a serious problem interpreting logic.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable:
FirstbornWds:
You can spend millions upon millions and still not achieve anything if you don't know what you are doing. Your Manchester United is a testament to that. The fact that Pep has successfully managed those players he bought, with him winning every trophy available in England more than once and managed to reach to UCL semi-final and final shows that not everyone can do it. That's why you guys have managed to be trophies for the last couple of years, say 3 or 4 years, despite spending more than the City you are trolling.


So, chill out bro... Make una win something first before trolling
Pep has been at the job for more than 5 years. He’s spent all that money by himself, he’s been given a free role to pick and choose the kind of players he wants. So tell me, how has he managed the resources well?

Buying Claudio Bravo and binning him is managing resources? Buying Nolito and immediately selling him is managing resources? Anyways, Pep himself confessed City is a small club and that’s why they didn’t sack him. He’s a demigod there. Whatever he wants, he gets. That’s not management, that’s a luxury most managers don’t have.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:40pm On Nov 24, 2021
Joezinho:
Talk about fraudiola's life after barka.

It's crystal clear that Fraudiola has outlived his good qualities as a 'wonderful coach' since he left Barka..

He has been unmasked and demystified for the world to see clearly the high premium that has been placed on him.. Without messi, he's just another ole Gollum in the UCL.
Someone that failed to successfully defend CL title with that Barca team?

The same team many people had as the best team ever assembled but couldn’t win CL back to back.

Fraudiola is a bottler.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:18pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
If you could answer why it took Ferguson more than 5 years before he won the epl with your useless club grin
Ferguson won the first edition of the PL.

I don’t know what you are talking about.

PL started in 92/93. Who won it that year?

Mumu.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:12pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
You Dey ask where e finish for him debut season

You are getting more confused because all your agenda just Dey fail you

With all the money wey una spend wey una epl title since e easy to win am with money grin

I just Dey look you ,you insult me E no enter now you don Dey insult my papa

Enjoy your tears grin
Stop lying, I didn’t insult your father.

Ranieri
Pellegrini
Mourinho
Conte

They all won the PL on their debut.

How come the great Guardiola couldn’t follow their footsteps?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:06pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Pains everywhere

Guardiola don really show this people pepper

He dominate their useless club for champions league when e Dey Barca ,he come England come still Dey dominate them for epl

Guardiola is a bottler but Ferguson is we the one that lost 2 finals against him

Mpuru mmiri Dey at work for this thread

I understand the tears grin
After spending £1 billion.

Where did he finish on his debut season in the PL before he spent millions?

How many trophies did he win in England in 16/17?

Andrew, they said you cannot pay NEPA bills? The people that cursed you to be this impoverish don’t like you.

Could it be your father’s mistress behind this misery? Tell us her name so we can plead on your behalf. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:02pm On Nov 24, 2021
DeadPresidents:
Haller will win UCL golden boot.

Ten Haag sabi this work abeg.

Haller has 8 goals already
Ronaldo will catch him in the next round.

Soft work.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:00pm On Nov 24, 2021
Devvy4:
Lol

Barka is even managing electricity at camp nou and their fans are here trolling

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9962421/amp/Sergio-Aguero-shares-Barcelonas-drastic-cost-cutting-measures-training-ground.html
Please, say its not true.

Andrew cannot afford NEPA bills?

Andrew, come outside. cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:58pm On Nov 24, 2021
Joezinho:
5 years. cheesy cheesy. The same fraudiola inherited a Treble winning team from Heynckes and he bottled three consecutive semi finals..

Spent over one billion euros since taking over as the man city 's coach yet he can't win the UCL..

Overrated baldo..Until he wins at a club that is difficult to win with, and not just with clubs where the fitness trainer could win the league for the team with the amount of money spent, fraudiola will probably continue to be overhyped.
He cannot win without Messi.

That much is clear. He’s had Aguero, Lewandowski, Robben, KDB, etc and he couldn’t win with them.

Not winning with them is half of the story. Just take a look at the teams he’s lost to in Europe….

Monaco?? Spurs?? Lyon??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:54pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
And you wey concede 5 goals for your house Na wetin ?

Old Trafford should be closed down grin
So 5 is more than 8?

Another evidence that the average Barcelona is intellectually bankrupt.

Go and bring another Barca fan. It’s clear you are not the sharpest tool in the shelf.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:53pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
It’s 10 years on the dot but Man U is more than 10 years

Pep is still current in terms of champions league than you guys grin
It’s not 10 years on the dot.

It’s 10 years and 6 months.

Pep’s last CL victory was in May 2011.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:52pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
You are not a Bayern Munich fan ,and I will rather loose 8-2 to Bayern than to loose 4-1 to watford grin

A useless team loosing at home with 5 goals cheesy
If you concede 8 goals in 90 mins, your club should be banished from European football.

And 2 of the 8 goals was scored by the player you bought for €160m who was on loan.

You gotta admit it, your club is useless.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:47pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Pep won the champions league 2011 grin
2021-2011 = ?? ?? ??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:44pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Pep has won the ucl and e Dey for record ,go commot am for record make I see

Pep has 3 epl for the past 4 seasons and your useless club has none for the past 8 years

Stop forcing yourself ,the Messi trolling no Dey enter that’s why I Dey ignore am since cheesy

Go and ask your useless team why they haven’t won the champions league for more than 10 years before questioning pep .
Pep hasn’t won the champions league for 10 years. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:43pm On Nov 24, 2021
andrewbaba44:
Your team get best player to sell ?

All your players Dey play like people wey their head no correct

You keep on insulting me because you are in pains grin
Lukaku cheesy

Meanwhile, your useless club bought Coutinho(€160m) only to contribute to your 8-2 elimination.

May God not let us buy an asset that would contribute to our downfall. cheesy

I am killing this nigga cheesy cheesy cheesy

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