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Now to other posts. zikkyy:simply answer the question i asked and you'll get the answer. All this attempt to flog the very bush is unnecessary. can a shadow ever be separated from the body? maybe in darkness That God we are in the light. God is light and the shadow stays with the body. shdemidemi:Do you know that believing in itself is a work to be done. We have to do something, that is BELIEVE. Also, i'd like to know where you get this notion that when we come to Christ our spirit is saved not our flesh. What i see in God's Word is that when you give your life to Christ, you totally become His, not just your spirit. 1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. No matter how much you try to abstain from sin, you will end up going back to sin. This situation don't mean you are no more of Christ or you have been condemned.Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. (Douay Rheims B) For then he ought to have suffered often from the beginning of the world. But now once, at the end of ages, he hath appeared for the destruction of sin by the sacrifice of himself. (GNB) for then he would have had to suffer many times ever since the creation of the world. Instead, now when all ages of time are nearing the end, he has appeared once and for all, to remove sin through the sacrifice of himself. (GW) Otherwise, he would have had to suffer many times since the world was created. But now, at the end of the ages, he has appeared once to remove sin by his sacrifice. 1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. The same yesterday, today and forever says it is unto you ACCORDING to your faith. @Goshen360:Sad to hear that you do not believe that all the words Jesus spoke when He came physically to earth are indeed spirit and life so His being born under the law made no difference to whoever He was speaking words of admonition to. Thank God anyway, i follow Jesus, not you. Jesus Christ is the Word for God's sake. How can someone(a professing christian) come to some logical conclusion(permitted to use his brain perhaps) that not all Christ's words are spirit and life! Do you understand the implications of what you say at all? And that you're privileged to have a group of people on the forum that swallow what they read from you, and that we will all appear before God and account for what we say? For by thy words thou shalt be justified. So we should assume/agree with you that when Jesus told a pharisee that "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God". And told those Herodians "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's". Or to those Pharisees " ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone." AND "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." You mean to say these words and many others like it were not spirit and life? For your information, Jesus told His disciples the below Mat 10:27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. Mat 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. You are saying "not all teachings of Christ was for all public, not all Christ words applies to the disciples". You do err (like your friend would say). @Alwaystrue:Well done oh. The bold part is paraphrased below. Pro 2:1 My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee; Pro 2:5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. Pro 2:9 Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path. Our bro currently refuses to hide God's commandments with him. He's too modern for such things, may God help us all. @Bidam:comma dey this your post oh my brother. |
kindly bear with the length, thought this to be important to the posts being read. Goshen360:i made some cuts in your quote to reduce the general length of this post. The Word of God tell us; 2Ti 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. 2Ti 2:15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. The bold portion of this passage is what you're sorrily doing Gosh. i've continued to tell you that the Word of God is cumulatively understood. You don't just pick up a phrase or group of verses that seem to suit you, and then punctuate them with your ideas, neglecting other portions of scripture. Such practice is bad and not helpful to 'study', it's what is called cherry-picking. You decided to pick verses that have the word command/commandment in singular, and you're now teaching some that it is wrong to obey commandments but we can obey commandment. That's a very wrong division of the Word. Consider the following passages. Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandmentS. From what you're teaching on this thread, Jesus is wrong here and you are the right one. But Jesus said, you can enter into life by keeping the commandmentS. John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandmentS. John 14:21 He that hath my commandmentS, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. John 15:10 If ye keep my commandmentS, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandmentS, and abide in his love. These passages show Jesus Christ telling us that He has commandmentS that He wants His followers to keep/obey. He also kept His Father's commandmentS and expects us to follow in His steps. There is nothing wrong with keeping His commandS. Normally, the simplicity of the gospel and of a normal christian demands that i stop here having already provided more than two witnesses to the balance of scriptures. but i know that there are many abnormal christains here, and some would even dare say that all what i quoted was before the cross or before the new testament and (recently more ridiculously) before the gospel. So let me hopefully help that class as well. Act 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandmentS unto the apostles whom he had chosen: 1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandmentS of God. 1Co 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandmentS of the Lord. 1Th 4:2 For ye know what commandmentS we gave you by the Lord Jesus. 1Jo 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandmentS. 1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandmentS, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. John the beloved said "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandmentS, is a liar". When we come on a thread like this, and discourage people and pride ourselves in not keeping His commandS, John says we become liars. Now, its either John is right and we are wrong, or we are right and John is wrong. Who is wrong? I hope your answer is as good as mine. 1Jo 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandmentS, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jo 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandmentS dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1Jo 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandmentS. 1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandmentS: and his commandmentS are not grievous. 2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandmentS. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandmentS of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandmentS of God, and the faith of Jesus. Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandmentS, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Anyone who does not keep God's commandments does not love(God's definition of love). that is why it is simply stated that love is the fulfilling/keeping of God's commands. Jesus said all of God's commands hang on love. Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. We should not now attempt to separate love from it. What God has joined together, let not man put asunder. God has joined and put all His commands under the class of love. Whether you call it ten commandments or +6000 commandments, or moral laws or whatever, God has put them all under love. Its like classing the fruits of the spirit. We know that joy is a fruit of the spirit, meekness is a fruit of the spirit, temperance is a fruit of the spirit. But they are all classed under love. That is one cannot say that he/she loves without having them. Galat 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit IS love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Galat 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. He could have said "The fruits of the Spirit ARE love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness etc. but He simply classed them under love, just like Christ classed the old testament scriptures under love. It's like classing all our decisions as christians under the evergreen framework of "WWJD" What would Jesus do? All the pray without ceasing, rejoice evermore, forgive, bless them that curse you etc, to the contemporary questions on smoking, por.nography, forsaking the assembling etc can all be classed under a 'What would Jesus do'. Forever, God's Words are settled. And let God be true and every man a liar. |
OLAADEGBU: Don't mind him, his job is to be equivocating, deliberately being ambiguous, beating around the bush and ending up being confused and flummoxed.Oh my brother, i just dey swim inside this your engrish oh. i need to re-say that i love the grammar being dissipated hia. |
@thehomer i asked 1. If i do something 'wrong' on your behalf which you didn't require, are you to take the blame? 2. What exactly are you saying happened to Jeptha's daughter ? You're insisting that your answer to this questions is How is it irrelevant to point out that the mercy of your God includes burning innocent people as a sacrifice to himself? Are you sure you understand the question? Or you're being sophistic like Ola pointed out? Here are the questions again in larger font. Kindly answer them, it's actually possible for you to discuss ihope? [size=15pt]1. If i(Image123) do something 'wrong' on your behalf which you(thehomer) didn't require/request, are you(thehomer) to take the blame? 2. What exactly are you saying happened to Jeptha's daughter? i.e summarise in one or few sentences what your complaint is about Jeptha's daughter.[/size] You never actually identified the fallacy you merely quoted my statements. What I'm asking you for is for you to present my statement and actually identify the fallacy you think it falls into.i already did this, ihope you don't reply like an automaton yet again this time. i talked of the class even. As your status requires, i guess you know what is called a classic ignoratio elenchi? If you don't please read up. That's one perfect class the fallacy pointed at. It is also a fallacy of irrelevant conclusion, an appeal to pity. And you're notorious for redherrings. To break it down further to your statement if by some misfortune, you still cannot locate it; The thread was on Obama and some 'evidence' on his gay sex scandal. And tpia sprays some 'May God have mercy on you' talk to which Ola rightly added that 'God have mercy on us all'. Then out of (satan knows where perhaps) nothing, you pulled out Jephthah's daughter and some (yet/presently) unclear inconclusive and incoherent sobs about her. You're diverting the issues on ground, introducing the appeal to pity. |
@OP whether the issue is spiritual or not, one thing is sure. You need to fumigate that house and literally light up the darkness. No bat even if na satan the devil possess am, will dwell in a well lit area. Also, move closer to God. Seems the experience drew you to seek religious/spiritual answers. God takes advantage of circumstances to draw humans closer to Himself. Do draw closer to God. |
kindly re-answer the questions directly, thanks. |
truthislight: My friend, you are on to what i dont know.unfortunately, what gosh is teaching is the most complicated interpretation i ever saw as regards obeying God. |
Image123: Already quoted your fallacy for ya since 6.01pm on April 25. Why are you still asking like an automaton? |
^ you avoided my questions? |
thehomer: That is what happened to Jephthah's daughter on God's behalf.Already quoted your fallacy for ya since 6.01pm on April 25. Why are you still asking like an automaton? If i do something 'wrong' on your behalf which you didn't require, are you to take the blame? What exactly are you saying happened to Jeptha's daughter? i don't get this Mercy-Burning you're fallaciously on about. |
Did Jesus mix grace and law, whatever the jargon means? |
^ The bold is an attempt to honour your royal gift the best i can. The quoted is a classic ignoratio elenchi, king. BTW, why do you feel that the mercy of God includes burning innocent people as a sacrifice to Himself? Its not the word, it's the whole quote, your perspective, your conclusion, your fallacy, i don't understand. Say hello to obama. |
thehomer: Yes. Like he had on Jephthah's daughter? Or like he had on those Canaanites whose massacre he ordered? If that is God's mercy, I'll be having none of it thank you. thehomer: She didn't reject his mercy. He simply didn't show his mercy like he did to Abraham's son. Maybe it was because she wasn't male. We all know how important males are to God except when he commands genocide. In that case, we save the virgin females for him.your kingluness, it's the fallacy of irrelevant conclusion. Even at that expense, i still don't get your gloom on this passage. Perhaps, you may kindly rephrase. |
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thehomer: See here.i still do not understand your grief and all the shriek about mercy. Can you be more direct, I'm beginning to doubt one of us understanding of that passage? |
davidylan: atheists, christians... sitting on their respective thrones condemning each other to hell.humpty dumpty stirs in the abyss. |
thehomer: You've read the passage and you've read my comments so exactly what words or phrases don't you understand?your grief about Jeptha's daughter. |
![]() OLAADEGBU: Don't be a miscreant. Didn't you say that you will be having none of God's mercy? |
The scripture doesn't forbid the use of medical aid, it even says medicine is good. |
^ your statement about not wanting God's mercy was addressed by Ola. Of course, i understand that you're deep in deception and past admitting your mistake. You're the king, I'm not worthy to reveal your forte to thee. Do tell me of your grief about Jeptha's daughter, I've read the passage. |
^ many of the pharisees were older than Jesus and His disciples. Age is not parallel to truth. Read 1Kings13 and learn of the old prophet. |
yet Paul was a servant of God, ye do err not knowing the scriptures Gosh. |
r. i.p. To God be the glory. |
nl members aligned views, the new improved sharp sharp holy spirit of the Christain. |
hahaha, tithe chased you away from your church at last. Don't worry, some other scenerio and teaching will still chase you from your new club. You just started. |
thehomer: Why was I to think he was referring to me rather than my statement? My point wasn't fallacious. If you thought it was, then you need to actually show it. My point is that neither you nor your God cared about Jephthah's daughter and you're talking to me about mercy?Perhaps because he quoted YOU and said if YOU reject His mercy, then YOU will have His wrath. Is that not supposed to be clear enough? Tell me about Jeptha's daughter whom you fallaciously conjured up. You care for her? What is your grief about? |
thehomer: She didn't reject his mercy. He simply didn't show his mercy like he did to Abraham's son. Maybe it was because she wasn't male. We all know how important males are to God except when he commands genocide. In that case, we save the virgin females for him.he was referring to you. Seems you've got the hots for jeptha's daughter, she's dead. What exactly is your non. fallacious point about her? |
OLAADEGBU: That is bodacious. ![]() |
mazaje: People have meditated on the bible and that lead them to have over 33,000 different sects of christianity, no?. . .The young earth creationist, old earth cfreationist, those that believe intithers, non tithers, those that believe in hell as a permanent lafe of fire for sinners, those that do not, those that believe in the rapture those that do not, those that believe in trinity and those that do not all read from the same bible, no?. . .If there is anything like the holy spirit there wil be a universally acceptabl;e christian doctrine. .But like anything that is man made all this division, personal opinions and intepretations are all norlam with anything that was invented by man. . .Keep on deluding your self. . .Now, i had to take time out of no time to get on a computer and respond to this. My hope is that you'll not be porous brained enough as to repeat this line of thinking again, and most importantly, for the benefit of my people. Hear is what i said, you may want to read it slowly this time so that all parts sink in. "when folks meditate day and night on confused commentaries of nl members instead of investing even half that time on the bible itself AND ON PRAYERS. Every sule, emeka and ojo's thought are taken in especially when its vociferous. Frequency of idea is mostly mistaken for intelligence." Meditating on the Bible is not what leads to sects.Not meditating, and not prayerfully listening is among what leads to sects. Read Joshua 1v8 for the results of meditating on the Word of God. Now, i do not know where you get the flimsy idea that If there is anything like the holy spirit there wil be a universally acceptabl;e christian doctrine.The Bible already says different. God's salvation is based on belief on the Son Jesus, not on doctrine. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.Act 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. If you believe in Jesus, you'll be saved. it's that simple, Eph 4:3 Endeavoring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: The command, the exhortation and the expectation is that we ENDEAVOUR to keep the unity of the Spirit. The second verse shows that we are not in the unity of the faith and of the knowledge. We are not all in the same class(believers). We don't all know or understand the same thing. We dont have equal faith, one the same faith. Even in the first century christians, they didn't all understand the same way. And thank god, it's not understanding of the faith that saves us. It's not the correct doctrine or the perfectest teaching that justifies us. Actually, we cannot come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of God until Jesus comes. And God has not commanded it for our salvation. But we can ENDEAVOUR to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. The pharisees believed in the correct doctrine and teaching on resurrection, the Saduccees did not. Both were not saved. The requirement to be a christian, to be saved, to get to Heaven as it were, is to believe in Jesus. The thief on the cross believed in Jesus, He was saved. Who knows his thoughts on tithing, or on rapture? The Ethiopian Eunuch was saved. I'm not sure of what he thought of trinity or of rapture. Those are basically insignificant to becoming a part of God's kingdom. The Holy Spirit is not primarily sent to give universal christian doctrine, whatever that means. |
Isa 51:22 Thus saith thy Lord the LORD, and thy God that pleadeth the cause of his people, Behold, I have taken out of thine hand the cup of trembling, even the dregs of the cup of my fury; thou shalt no more drink it again: Isa 51:23 But I will put it into the hand of them that afflict thee; which have said to thy soul, Bow down, that we may go over: and thou hast laid thy body as the ground, and as the street, to them that went over. |
but the bible already told us women are the weaker vessel na. These seven discovery late oh. |
musKeeto: Please point us aright. I'd like to learn what this 'test' was meant to achieve.. All this shouting and accusing won't get you anywhere.. just log off or move on to an anti-Catholic or JW thread...as in muskee wants to learn? could this be the significant event tbj prophesied? |
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