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MightySparrow:
God of the Bible is the ONLY true God. All others I don't know. He has been / is being misrepresented for ages.

Do you have evidence he's the true one? Are you aware adherents of the 4299 would say the exact thing you do?

FRANCISTOWN:
I saw that thread, in fact. You really did well on that thread.
That thread should be one of the overall best atheistic threads on Nairaland since inception.
I already bookmarked the thread.
Just in case anybody wants to move mad in the future.

I was reluctant to open that thread. Have been meaning to open it for years but too lazy. One christian here Ken4Christ challenged me that the bible is perfect. Told me to open a thread. So I did. In the end, dude couldn’t rebut any of the points raised. And I wasn't even done on the bible gaffes. Some more remaining but I needed more responses before bringing out the more heavier gaffes

SIRTee15:

Maynman that doesn't know where Paul was speaking to herod. She should first go and enrol in bible class.
As for u, the way u twist mouth per second...devil sef go fear.

He showed you evidence.
Please how do I twist my mouth. Explain

FxMasterz:
It looks like that to you as an outsider. If you don't know what happened internally to those few people you mentioned, you can't generalise. You failed to talk about the millions of others whose cases are different from those few you mentioned.

Which millions

FxMasterz:
I don't know all the other people you mentioned up there. I know only Idahosa. Please, we do not regard TB Joshua as a true servant of God.

Idahosa was warned about his pride. When God was to take him away, He sent him messages upon messages through the wife of his spiritual father but he didn't listen.

Idahosa walked in the power of God but for his pride, God took him away. Actually, when a child of God begins to err, God lovingly calls him home so that he wouldn't end up a candidate of hell.

While many believers suffer for lack of knowledge, pride is another weapon Satan uses against those who walk in the anointing.

What are the evidence of 'walking in anointing or power of god'?

Image123:
Says who? No one except comic atheists wannabes.

Says Thor apostles

hashtagged:
The canal mind cannot understand the ways of the spirit

Just like you don't understand the ways of Flying Spaghetti Monster

TenQ:
Since you think you know better than me, can you give me your best explanation of existence and life (at least we know that time, space and matter simultaneously came into being about,13.8 billion years ago)?

I'm waiting!
The ball is in your court!

Let me be very honest here.
I am not 100% sure about the scientific theories out there. Many of them make sense like abiogenesis. Some don't. Evolution is 100% correct and easily backed by science and logic.
Creationism has its issues. Example, there many gods laying claim to it but none providing evidence whatsoever apart from 'My favorite book says so'. And the said favorite book isn't even historically correct

OLAADEGBU:
You that can use your brain, try being logical for once even if your worldview has no framework for it.

How do you account for the existence and nature of the laws of morality? Laws of morality only make sense in the Christian worldview where God created human beings in His own image and therefore has the right to set the rules for our behaviour.

Are you aware Yahweh said anyone that worked on sabbath should be stoned? Or if you have your foreskin, you're stoned too. Imagine if these were put into moral codes, how many people would survive?
Research on code of Hammurabi, that was the first law to humans about morality. The Bible wasn't the first code on morality

elated177:
Francistown, I thought you were serious. But it continues to be the usual rubbish and puerility. You and your kind, your fellow atheist wannabes, will never disappoint in that regard. Ihe iberibe!

Again, francistown, continue to have your parents carry you and fight your spiritual battles for you while you are here forming atheist. Nwata akwo na azu anaghi ama na ije adighi fecha fecha. Height of iberibeism!

I don't think I will be giving you anymore attention.

Lekwe onye apari iberibe na-enweghi uburu.
Send your lightning now, biiitcch

SIRTee15:
Another copy and paste attention seeker. I've tested the so called wannabe atheist here on nairaland and they failed woefully. I chop 2 of your guys raw...they became confused and disoriented.
You guys are not only empty but complete waste of time. You are not knowledgeable enough to consume one's time.
See him bragging against supernatural, as if he will wait if a traditionalist decide to manifest his fake powers on him...cowards.

Pls don't even bother to quote, go and drink water if u are thirsty.

Lol. Dude youre funny.
Which 2 atheists did you chop raw? I opened a thread about Bible gaffes(which you cannot even dispute any of them). Then you brought the story of spontaneous cancer remission which I countered and you cannot reply me til now. Then you had your argument with Maynmann where he was schooling you about the gospels, you brought in chatgpt saying its contradicting Maynmann, then when Maynmann brought in evidence from the same chatgpt, you accused him of manipulating it. Same chatgpt you quoted. I even told you it cant be manipulated. If you knew chapgpt can be manipulated, then why bring it in as indisputable evidence.
You're really dense. You haven't finished my argument with you. Please revert to the thread lemme complete my uppercut on you

elated177:
I have decided to give you more attention, the attention seeker.

Did you mention anyone?

Quoting the Scriptures of my God, YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas, and everything in them, is tantamount to mentioning me. I thought you knew this.

So, I am minding my business.

Since you, francistown, cannot understand the language of the thunder and the lighting, yes, I have included lightning, you shouldn't be speaking authoritatively on things that you know absolutely nothing about.

Francistown, you are too infinitesimal, too inconsequential and your rants and rambles too insignificant for my God to be bothered by. I am a human being like you and I am the one who will be responding to you. I am his human masterpiece here on earth and so I am here.

Francistown, I, Elated177, the saint, servant, follower and messenger of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them, the one and only true God, want to speak to you through the thunder and the lightning, the wind, the rain, the Sun and the moon and the stars. Will you be able to understand? Just in case it is not obvious, I have added the rain, the sun, the moon and the stars.

If you can't understand the thunder, the lightning, the rain, the wind, the sun, the moon and the stars when they speak, then, there is no need for further discourse with you.
So, francistown, continue to have your parents carry you and fight your spiritual battles for you while you are here forming atheist. Ihe iberibe!

Francistown, if you knew how to use the brain, you wouldn't be here opening threads such as this one.

You have threatened me twice with this lightning and I told you to svck your dicck. You even threatened to make me mad, yet months later, here I am. Isn't it time you realize you're the one losing your marbles?

FxMasterz:
Don't mind him.

He didn't want to talk about Muslims who are instructed to kill anyone who does not believe in Mohammed or Allah. And they do it today through their countless terrorist groups sponsored by Muslims world-wide.

Which Christian would call you a devil for not believing in His God? That's a lie. No Christian does that.

Anyone who writes these days want to attack the Bible and its God. Satan knows his time is short.

May God heal your soul.

1. I hope you know there are terrorist Christian groups
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nathaniel-veltman-muslim-family-canada-b1862845.html%3famp

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10576100701611288

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/16/wieambilla-shootings-australia-christian-terrorist-attack-queensland-police

https://www.salon.com/2015/04/07/6_modern_day_christian_terrorist_groups_our_media_conveniently_ignores_partner/

2. I have had people call me devil for being atheist. Some Christians would become your enemy for being atheist. My former workplace threatened atheists. My own wife calls me an antichrist for it, despite saving her life on many occasions(and donating blood for her twice) . So please speak for yourself

elated177:
Attention seeker. Let me give you a little attention.

Can you grasp the language of the thunder? When the thunder speaks, will you be able to understand?

What about the wind? Can you comprehend the language of the wind?


YHVH Almighty is my God. He is the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and God of Jacob. He is the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them.

Was Yahweh using thunder to communicate with Moses, Noah etc

OLAADEGBU:
How can an atheist be moral? You need to be consistent with your worldview.

You really can't use your brain. Ok let's forget about myself.
Do you know the most religious countries are the most immoral? All kinds of crimes are committed. Netherlands have more atheists than Nigeria, yet their prisons are almost empty. You can be a millionaire and live in a house without fence. Can you try that in Nigeria, a supposedly religious country?
Morality absolutely has nothing to do with religion

Banbanna:
EPL and controversial decisions are like Siamese twins. How on earth Jota wasn't sent off after that 𝐊𝐮𝐧𝐠𝐟𝐮 𝐤𝐢𝐜𝐤 on Skipp is just beyond me. Those VAR people dey do Wayo o . It's like they're trying hard to push LFC above Tottenham.
𝗧𝗼𝘁 𝗳𝗮𝗻𝘀 would feel very hurt seeing a player that shouldn't be on the pitch scoring the winner, and that Richarlison emotionally charged goal celebration go to waste in dying minutes.

Did you see Skipp's tackle on Diaz?

OLAADEGBU:
How To Scare An Evolutionist

Ray Comfort

Are you aware some christians have accepted evolution and have thrown away creationism after realizing it was a scam?

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying no to abortion because of some morality or you are just conforming to the environment you find yourself? What will you do if you find yourself in an environment conducive to abortion, would you still stand against it? and I'm not referring to extreme cases here.

Every physician conforms his or her practice around the existing laws of the country. If my country allows abortion and someone comes to me to do it, I can defer to another. I'm not under any obligation to do it. And yes, I am moral. And also no, morality doesn't depend on your god or religion

OLAADEGBU:
The Bible Stands

Answers In Genesis

So how did this witness get his story into the Bible, dummy?

OLAADEGBU:
You need to be copying copiously from your Darwin book not the bible.

What's the point of this gibberish you wrote?
I copied some folks online, its a problem for you. Now you still want me to copy another person?
Are you off your medications?

TenQ:
Let me help you out!


Suddenly, the question of Who became How?

If you know, tell us cause I don't!
Can it be simpler than this?

Lol. You know my stance on the creation story. I'd sooner believe Snow White and the Seven Dwarves happened than believe the creation happened. So how am I supposed to supply the missing part of the bullshit story?

SIRTee15:
This is what u said....Obviously you can't 'manipulate' chatgpt. It uses LLM(Large Language Model) and doesn't accept input from users.

Which journal told the artificial intelligence that okonkwo died by gunshot? Everybody who has read things fall apart know how okonkwo died, it's common knowledge.
The false information regarding how okonkwo died was from the user.
Read more about chatgpt and pls stop twisting mouth every seconds.

I don't know the journal or literature. But it obviously got its info from any one of them out there. Not all info online is correct. And the chatgpt devs clearly stated that chatgpt isn't always correct. Is this too hard for you to understand?
I did a test now with chatgpt. Look at it. I tried to manipulate it but failed

SIRTee15:
Then bring your own evidence to debunk it. Simple
I can bring thousand of evidence to support how okonkwo died.

Evidence to debunk what? How Okonkwo died? Of course he hung himself. At least I still remember my literature classes.
The point is Chatgpt can be wrong but it cannot be manipulated by the user.
I don't need your evidence

TenQ:
You're hanging yourself over your own noose of nothing bro!
1. WHO did God first told the story of creation has suddenly become HOW God told the story of creation?
Can you see how you are once again dazed by your own self inflicted punch?
2. If your IQ doesn't recognize when your comprehension and logic is questioned, have your way! Anything to twist out of your illogicalities! If Adam to Noah were not literate, oral traditions would be impossible!! Is this not your flawed logic?

Stop being clever.
I asked you WHO AND HOW DID YAHWEH TRANSFER THE CREATION STORY TO?
Its not a trick question. Its pretty straightforward.
You said you don't know but it aint Moses. Then you said Adam, Noah are DEAF AND DUMB.
Again I ask for the 3rd post running, HOW DID YAHWEH COMMUNICATE WITH THEM?
Other follow up questions are coming up, so don't waste my time in replying these ones.
You're probably in church, so raise this at the Sunday school Q&A session

SIRTee15:
Let's wait for jaephoenix to respond. He was the one who said chatgpt always states fact and can't be manipulated.
I think he's smarter than u and will decode the error.

You still have comprehension issues. My first post on chatgpt was to say its not even 90% correct, and that its dev says so. I even gave you advice to base your debates on hits from many research posts
Then I said it takes input from journals etc, and not from the user
I never said its never wrong.
Whats your native language lemme use it to write for you

SIRTee15:
Go and read how okonkwo died in things fall apart.
I can't be spoonfeeding u all the time. Then it will dawn on you what you ve been doing to chatgpt all day.
Things fall apart is one of the common novel someone who passed thru secondary school in naija should have read.
If u did high school abroad, then I will understand.

You still have comprehension issues. Looks like its a chrissie thing.
Did the user manipulate chatgpt into giving out a specific info?
Example, can I manipulate chatgpt into saying jaephoenix is the president of the US?
It may say Joe Biden(correctly) , or Bill Gates(incorrectly), but it won't add the fact that jaephoenix is the president

Maynman:
Why don’t you also manipulate the poor thing?

I told him the same thing. Chatgpt isn't up to 90% correct. I don't know why he brought it into this argument

TenQ:
Apologies bro!

Never thought of "Punch_Drunk"
I assumed "Punch_Drink" which could be strongly alcoholic depending on its mix!

Apology accepted. Lets move on

TenQ:
Do you know who got the first story of Creation from God?
Cause I don't know who the FIRST person to hear the Creation story was!

Moses was certainly NOT the first, but he was the first to write the history of Creation in the lineage of Abraham.


That's your apparent claim wasn't it?
Adam and Eve couldn't read nor write, and so, there were no other ways to get information from God!? Same with Noah!?

Adam and Eve were illiterates and deaf and dumb at the same time. They know nothing of value to be passed down to their children. The same with Noah, he was even in addition to being deaf and dumb, a brute who didn't tell anyone why he was building the ark.

See your life!

Youre further fvcking up your foot.
1. So suddenly you don't know how Yahweh gave the creation stories to humans (since no one was around then) , right? Please ask SirTee15, your pastors and MOGs and revert to me . I'm waiting…
2. Lemme repeat, maybe you're still punch drunk.
Yahweh was obviously conversing with Adam, Noah etc.
A. Since you said they were deaf and dumb how did Yahweh communicate?
B. Which language was it?
You can ask SirTee15 or any other dumb theists like you. Waiting for your response
Today is Sunday. So you can quickly pop in and ask the whole congregation. Surely there should be some smart guys there

SIRTee15:
U gotta be kidding me

U people just keep falling hand.
Atheist are suppose to be well grounded with facts. I just don't understand the kind ones u be.

You are still shooting yourself in the foot. If you think chatgpt can be manipulated then your earlier post on serapis is null and void, since you could have equally been manipulating it

SIRTee15:
I absolutely agree with u that it's not 100% correct. It can easily be manipulated which I noticed maynman have been doing.
I don't base my argument fully on it. I asked maynman to challenge the chatgpt answer if dissatisfied by providing her own evidence.
Instead she went to chatgpt and started manipulating the poor thing to agree to her theories.

Lol.
Obviously you can't 'manipulate' chatgpt. It uses LLM(Large Language Model) and doesn't accept input from users. Whatever it spews out is what it collates from its sources like literatures, articles, journals and uses LLM, its AI variation to put it in a language and form we understand.
Lol. These theists are clowns

SIRTee15:
Help your friend out, she's confused and still lost in it.

Where was Paul on trial in acts 26?
Maynman still saying it's Antioch. Bail her out, maybe she will believe u.

U atheists on this forum need to step up your game. This is my 1st time debating u guys and I'm not impressed at all.

You have abandoned my debate with you which you have been so beaten, and you faced another. I wont allow you to go free without collecting more blows