Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 1:28am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Image123: Speak for yourself riding hood. We know what we have seen, heard and handled. Care to enumerate what you have seen, heard, handled etc? |
Christianity Etc › Re: All Babies Are Enemies Of God by jaephoenix(m): 1:25am On Apr 21, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:43am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Janosky:
IMBECILIC Atheists forming medical doctor. 
How were you able to "take a Mickey outta " a spirit being you claimed does not exist?
mickey noun (DRUG) (in screenshot). [ C ] slang. (also Mickey Finn) a drug added to a drink, especially an alcoholic drink, in order to make the person who drinks it unconscious: He must have slipped his wife a mickey.12 Apr 2023 https://dictionary.cambridge.org › ... MICKEY | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary. I knew I'd have to teach you this but no problem, I'll do that for any stupid theist. British, informal. : to make fun of someone. Everyone laughed, but nobody laughed harder than Luna Lovegood. … " Are you taking the mickey?"And yes I can make fun of a non existing being or subject. I'm sure you've seen people diss Spider-man or Harry Potter? Or you don't know them too? 
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:38am On Apr 21, 2023 |
LottiOk:
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So if we give u poison now, u won't die abi? Dey play Abeg no disturb ma guy. He promised me of drinking 99% conc acid on live TV. Don't discourage him |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:37am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: The first Adam knew the instruction God gave him but he chose to disobey God. So, his ignorance of the knowledge of good God and evil does not count.
He was given a clear instruction and he ignored it. Just like you acutely ignored my first questions |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:36am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: God is a just God. It's not his duty to stop Satan. It's our duty to stop him by taking the right decision. Its not Yahweh's duty to stop satan? Never mind. I forgot Satan is his buddy |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:34am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: God gives us many opportunities to repent. Those who go to hell are the ones who rejected them. That isn't the answer to his question. Are you trying to use Ignorance of Obfuscation tactics? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:34am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: 1. True believers are free from the guilt of sin and condemnation. Every other person still see themselves as sinners. But we don't. We are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
2. The believer has authority to cast out demons. The unbeliever does not. The seven sons of Sceva in the book of Acts tried to cast out demons in the name of Jesus and they were mercilessly beaten.
3. The believer will drink deadly poison and survive it but it will kill the unbeliever.
4. We have peace of mind that money can't buy. The unbeliever does not.
5. We have the capacity to receive the Holy Spirit and speak in other tongues but the unbeliever does not. 1. This cannot be ascertained. Just like saying people with 3 spiritual eyes have spiritually long hands. Since nobody can ascertain them and even christians dispute this topic since nobody can see it, then its not a valid point 2. Have you seen a demon before? Can you pass one on the road and point it out? Guess not! You just end up accusing your fellow human. Thus, sadly this is another invalid point 3. Ummm. I have seen many believers die from drinking poisons. But we can always test this out on you by getting you to drink concentrated arsenic. Ready? 4. Peace of mind is a relative term. And I have seen many Christians have incessant panic attacks without peace while some atheists are very contented with life. 5. I can speak in tongues too. Only problem is you won't understand my gibberish, just like you don't understand the gibberish of your fellow believers |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:23am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Your example does not hold water.
The last Adam, Jesus was subjected to the same temptation the first Adam failed.
That the first Adam failed didn't make God change his principle.
Everyone must be subjected to test. Do they have the same powers? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:20am On Apr 21, 2023 |
orisa37: GOD IS SECRET, A CULT, A CHURCH, A MOSQUE, A COVEN AND A COVENANT. SO GET YOURSELF AN EPHOD. ALWAYS WEAR IT WHENEVER YOU WANT TO TALK TO GOD. BE HUMBLE. YOU ARE NOT TALKING TO A HOOLIGAN. CAST ASIDE SELFISHNESS. CALL MY GOD MY GOD PLEASE DON'T FORSAKE ME. CALL "IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST", IN SOLILOQUY, 40 TIMES. BE REALISTIC AND PRAY FOR ONE THING, ONE PROBLEM, AT A TIME . LIKE SERIOUSLY, SAY AMEN THREE TIMES. BE EXPECTING RESULTS.
FROM ORUNTO27 ORISAORUNTOSPEAKS. GOD IS GRAND ORDER DOMINION. PLEASE DON'T BE ADVERSE TO HIGHEST IN ESTIMABLE SUPREME THEORY-ATHIEST. Bro can I have the contacts of your kush supplier?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:17am On Apr 21, 2023 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=122628246][/quote]How come atheistic countries have less crime rates than theistic ones including predominantly Christian countries |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:14am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Kez11: Honestly that manna tale sounds so hilarious... It baffles me seeing smart and intelligent people believing that gibberish. Religion has a way of disconnecting smart people from their brain, then reconnecting it in non-religious purposes |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:13am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Only a human blood can meet the demand of justice. The value of the blood of animals is not the same as that of human.
You can't borrow a gold watch to a friend and he returns a silver plated watch. They are not the same value.
Man sinned. Another man has to atone for his sin. And that man has to be sinless.
Jesus is the only one qualified to die for mankind. Thank God he did. And he also rose from the dead. So, it wasn't a bad deal.
You rescued others by risking your life and you still made it. It's a win-win situation.
And it's worthy of celebration. This is quite an unbalanced analogy. Who is this blood being sacrificed to? Baal? Mephiboshet? Thor? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:09am On Apr 21, 2023 |
Ken4Christ: Jesus willingly offered himself as a sacrificial lamb to save the world. You should be glad about that.
If you borrow money from a bank, you can't pay back with banana.
Only blood makes atonement for sin. What or who is he exactly saving the world from? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 12:08am On Apr 21, 2023 |
teebagy: God is a pure spirit who cannot been seen with d phyiscal eye. Just d way organisms canot b seen without microscope. Only ur spirit can c GOD You don't get my point. I mean, why is Yahweh suddenly shy since the bible days? He aint sending lightnings, manna, hailstorms etc |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Best Argument For The Existence Of God? by jaephoenix(m): 7:57pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
teebagy: Not from himself but from sin. When sin, who do you (purportedly) offend? Satan or Yahweh? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:54pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
kingslj: better off than someone you dont know or seen, That is being foolish . They are alive because of the love and provision made available by God ALMIGHTY.
Please dont assume that it is everyone on nairaland that is suffering or not contended with life. Tell me a person that can prove that our universe came about by mistake. You don't get my point. No matter how well off a Christian is, there's always an atheist better than him. Some Christians are also better off than atheists. But check the richest 100 persons and see how many Christians are there |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:51pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:50pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
Ever8090: do you asked a question or you been blabbing all along? If you don't understand something, humbly ask. Stop exposing your ignorance |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:49pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
Ever8090: you have not answered any of my question, until you tell me how you came into existence, you will continue to sound foolish to me. Don't even try to return my question to you back to me. ...how did you come into existence?. You said it was trough your father's sperm, then I asked, how did your father and his sperm came into existence, you stylishly ran away from the question and now you want to systematically return the question to me because, that is a question even atheist has not been able to answer not to talk of a wana-be atheist like you, but I expect you to give it a try anyway If you have a brain, you would have seen I have answered that question. You asked how I came, and I said I came from my moms and pops. Then you ask how my pops came, obviously he came from his own pops. You asked how man came to be and I said I don't know. Is there a problem with that? I'm not a dishonest dolt like you that claim things they don't know about. I then asked you the same question and you're blowing hot air, yet to answer any of my questions, meanwhile have been answering yours |
Christianity Etc › Re: Bride Asked God To Walk Her Down The Aisle On Her Wedding Day & God Did by jaephoenix(m): 7:42pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
Ever8090: my friend you are still blabbing, you have failed to state your origin or the origin of whatever that is responsible for your existence, I am sure you are aware of cause and effect, in existentialism?..
The penis, brain and all those things you mentioned, I want to know how they came into existence to perform such functions specifically, if it is by chance, sat it so if it was created say so so that we can start from there, why are you evading the important part of our discussion,.
Those books you are asking me to read were written by humans, and whatever they wrote is inconsistent to my curiosity if you fail to establish the origin of the writers.
You just jump to ...."the brain has synapses"... whatever it is that the brain has is not my business at the moment, .how did the brain came into existence you are blabbing...
Let's focus on the origin first...I am waiting sir. Grab a book on embryology and satisfy your curiosity on how the brain came about. When you're done, we can continue this discourse. Or you can believe me when I say the brain originates from the neural tube, which came from the blastocyst and then morula |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 7:03pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
OkCornel: Did the likes of Abraham or Job or Moses need a "Bible" to know the God and the Truth?
I pity you people who have limited the truth to what is written.
Truth is a Spirit, not a book. Know this and know peace. No they didn't because apparently Yahweh was always there to talk to them and guide them. And now Yahweh is kinda shy to talk to and guide you folks, all you have is a garbled and warped Bible. The least thing Yahweh can do is make sure this book(that would be guiding future christians in his anticipated silence) would be perfect, since he's a perfect being and whatever he breathes should be perfect. But the opposite is the case |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 6:46pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 6:45pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
OkCornel: Situational ethics and context will resolve the majority of these seeming contradictions.
While the minority would pretty much be attributable to errors by scribes in the manuscripts or translation errors.
Anyways, the Spirit of Truth is the ultimate standard rather than been stuck on the letters.
Last time I checked, God didn’t write a book. However, He has freely given the Spirit of Truth to guide mankind into all truth.
Truth existed before mankind invented writing. Truth will never cease to exist if all the books in the world are burned up.
Know this and know peace… 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work. Jeremiah 36:2 Take a scroll and write on it all the words which I have spoken to you concerning Israel and concerning Judah, and concerning all the nations, from the day I first spoke to you, from the days of Josiah, even to this day Exodus 24:3-4 Moses came and told the people all the words of the Lord and all the rules. And all the people answered with one voice and said, “All the words that the Lord has spoken we will do.” And Moses wrote down all the words of the Lord It is obvious as the more ya'll try to defend these gaffes, you shoot yourself in the foot. Look at you very eager to throw the Bible under the bus just because of its errors. So without this bible, how would you know about Yahweh or his characters or promise? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 5:50pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
OJODEL10: we needed to respond to these questions
at a point i discover it does not worth it Lol. That's the regular rebuttals I get from christians when their defenses fall flat. All the points you raised have all been nullified. I see you have been googling up some rebuttals, so go ahead and bring them on, lemme show you why they are all useless |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 5:48pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
OJODEL10: 5. God is tired and rests Ex 31:17 God is never tired and never rests Is 40:28
it is essential that after our daily work we should rest this was given to the israelite to know the importance of rest some will work and not rest which is bad for them according to Ex 31:17 is a sign for them. 31 : 17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
While the Bible tells us God “rested” on the Sabbath day, it doesn’t say that He rested because He was tired. (God does not “faint or grow weary”, as Isaiah 40:28, ESV tells us.) He rested to look over what He created and enjoy it. Let’s look at the root word for Sabbath. The word “sabbath” comes from the Hebrew word shabbat, which means “to cease” or stop. Even in our human lives, it’s not uncommon to stop and take a day off after a large project or a great accomplishment. Yes, we do get tired, unlike God. But after finishing something meaningful and beautiful, we don’t stop afterwards just to rest. We stop to reflect upon and enjoy what was just accomplished! On the Sabbath day, we rest to celebrate God’s accomplishment of creating the world and creating humanity to live in it and take care of it. We pause to take notice, learn more, and express gratitude to our Creator. When God rested on the seventh day, He set for us an example. He gave the weekly Sabbath as a day of rest and worship for all of mankind. The Sabbath is a memorial, a day when we remember God’s creative power. He alone is worthy of our worship, as beautifully described by Ellen White, one of the founders of the Adventist Church: “Because He had rested upon the Sabbath, ‘God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it,”’—set it apart to a holy use. He gave it to Adam as a day of rest. It was a memorial of the work of creation, and thus a sign of God’s power and His love.”
copied I was starting to believe what you were typing til I remembered the highlighted part. If someone is indefatigable and has eternal levels of power and energy, why does he need to refresh? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 4:37pm On Apr 20, 2023*. Modified: 4:59pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
OJODEL10: 4. God is seen and heard Ex 33:23/ Ex 33:11/ Gen 3:9,10/ Gen 32:30/ Is 6:1/ Ex 24:9-11 God is invisible and cannot be heard John 1:18/ John 5:37/ Ex 33:20/ 1 Tim 6:16
john 1 : 18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. john 5 Jesus here was addressing the jews it belief theologically that between Malachi and New testament that there was arround 400 years of silent no message from God
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time,nor seen his shape.
5 : 38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
exodus 33 : 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live
God had been heard from time immemorial but not being seen but in case of Gene 32:30 please also read judged 13 completely for better understanding for exodus 33: 23 please also read chapter 34 for clearity These verses clearly stated humans saw Yahweh face to face Exodus 24:9-11 9 Moses and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and the seventy elders of Israel went up 10 and saw the God of Israel.Under his feet was something like a pavement made of lapis lazuli, as bright blue as the sky. 11 But God did not raise his hand against these leaders of the Israelites; they saw God, and they ate and drank◄ Isaiah 6:1 ► In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw the Lord, high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple ◄ Genesis 32:30 ► So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was sparedAnd the same Bible told us no one sees Yahweh and lives. Exodus 33:20 But you cannot see my face,g for no one can see me and live John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known 1 Timothy 6:14–16 14 to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen; 1 John 4:12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us I even read your rebuttal and it doesn't change anything |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 12:12pm On Apr 20, 2023 |
OJODEL10: 3. God dwells in light Tim 6:16 God dwells in darkness 1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2
what are the situations like in 1 Kings 8:12/ Ps 18:11/ Ps 97:2 1 Kings 8:10-12
place read it from 10-12 is God actually living in darkness? 8: 10 And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the LORD, 8: 11 So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD. 8 : 12 Then spake Solomon, The LORD said that he would dwell in the thick darkness. There you go. Its stated there |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 11:37am On Apr 20, 2023 |
Juicedrinker: Brother some of the things you wrote are obviously taken out of context, some are so so out of context. Also, whether the Bible is perfect or not, if everything in the Bible is true or not, is not proof that God does not exist but only proof that everything in the Bible is not correct. 1. Can you point out the ones that are out of context 2. So what is the proof that Yahweh exists if his word is filled with all kinds of errors? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:42am On Apr 20, 2023 |
OJODEL10: 2. God dwells in chosen temples 2 Chron 7:12,16 God dwells not in temples Acts 7:48
2 chronicle 7 : 12 And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice. 7 : 13 If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; 7: 14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 7 : 15 Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place. 7 : 16 For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.
from the book of 2 chronicle God doenot dwell in the temple but His EYE, MIND , HEART are always his people to answers their prayers You know what you're doing? You're second guessing, and that's another blasphemy. You don't second-guess the Lord thy god. You're saying he didn't mean what he said, when he clearly stated that is what he's gonna do |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:38am On Apr 20, 2023 |
OJODEL10: 1. God is satisfied with his works Gen 1:31 God is dissatisfied with his works. Gen 6:6
God has made everything perfect state in the beginning but the diobedient of man brought about sin the fallen angels according to the bible mingle with man sin becomes increase and violence everywhere thats not the world God wanted for man so thats not a contradiction Then you're blaspheming cos you're saying Yahweh isn't omniscient. Because an all-knowing being cannot regret, he can't be surprised |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Book Of Bible Gaffes by jaephoenix(op): 9:36am On Apr 20, 2023 |
OJODEL10: Thanks for your observation, it will take a very long time to attend to all these
and i belief it wasnt your findings it was copied let see as it goes Of course it wasn't all my findings, I said so from the get to. I did a little addition
may God help us. Amen |