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KNOWMORE56:
The only thing that bothers me is when an intelligent officer like you have not known that only the name JESUS can save you!

*. Acts 4:12 "KJV:Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN given among men, whereby we must be saved.

No, not even 'Jehovah'; NO!!!!!.... Not by acknowledging the GB,

But Jesus is the way, the truth and the life!

Jesus said in Matthew 24:14: ―And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come

Mark 1:13-15, 2Thess1:7-9, Only obedience to the gospel of Jehovah's kingdom will save you.
That's the good news Jesus preached..

No dey deceive yourself

Emusan:
The ability to motivate yourself on self destruction is what makes you jump from thread to thread.



What happened to those who died in these mistakes (plural)?

Why would Jehovah allow someone who made mistakes part of His Son's heavenly call?



Trinitarian is your nightmares, keep feasting on it.



To the bin!

Emusan:
Yet your idolatry leader and organization used CROSS for many years when your created god even started the demonic organization with him.

Csonice1:
That's okay with me, let me drop this: u don't have to reply.

Ancient of days means "Eternal Father", that is "Father of eternity": let's see what the amplified version of the Bible says.

ISAIAH9:6
AMP:"For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be upon His shoulder, and His name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father [of Eternity], Prince of Peace."

In Revelations1, John Saw Christ in the very image of the ancient of days:. That's after he has been re-entrusted with the Glory of the throne.

DANIEL7:9
AMP: "I kept looking until thrones were placed [for the assessors with the Judge], and the Ancient of Days [God, the eternal Father] took His seat, Whose garment was white as snow and the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was like the fiery flame; its wheels were burning fire."

REVELATIONS1:12-14
12:Then I turned to see [whose was] the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands,
13And in the midst of the lampstands [One] like a Son of Man, clothed with a robe which reached to His feet and with a girdle of gold about His breast.
14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, [as white] as snow, and His eyes [flashed] like a flame of fire. "

The identical look would have been overlooked if not for the Name.

solite3:
see the definition of 'being' below, your fraud has being busted. Lie lie witness

kindly show me where I said that Jesus and the father are the same person?

solite3:

Jesus and the father are not the same person but rather one being.

It shows you dont even know about the trinity

Your dictionary Confirms a Being is a person.
Solite3 LIENUS, congratulations for your provision of the ammunition to nail your Trinity Fraud and your self deceitful Confusion

solite3:
So your fellow non Trinitarian can stone you because of different version of non Trinitarian pagan god?
All non Trinue pagan devotee pretending to serving God, with different versions of non trinitarian fraud.

KNOWMORE56:
If I talk sey they dey run from questions, Maximus69 go say no be so.

Na only watchtower devotees their manipulations dey work for their head.

I also have some questions:

What do you want us/me to understand from your posts?:

1. Jesus is not God at all,

2[b]. Jesus is a god but not the real God[/b], He's a fake God,

3. Jesus is a false god not the true God; he's made God by trinitarians only.

Please, do well to support your answers with RELEVANT Bible references.

Take note of the word RELEVANT.

Haddeylium, Maximus69, DappaD, Chatinent, Janosky, and other Witnesses

solite3:
Jesus and the father are not the same person but rather one being.

It shows you dont even know about the trinity.

In fact your claim is FALSE & very Dubious.
See The screenshot evidence.
Solite3 Lienus I have more PROOF of your self deceit and Confusion.
Bros Dappa loves you so much,he suggested you go consult a Shrink.
Trinity FRAUD is not making you think straight anymore

solite3:
you non trinitarians has different versions of non trinity. How come your non Trinitarian God cannot unite you people?

Eagban:
Jesus Christ claim of being the "Son of God" was subject of contention with the Jewish leaders likewise is forgiving of the sins of the paralytic because they acknowledged the fact that He was claiming to be God...Like the Jewish leaders, you and the entire body of Jehovah witnesses are still doing it today...

Just like I said before, if the Bible can't help you to understand the divine nature of Jesus, I cannot help you either...Have a nice day!

Bros, John 10:33,36 Jesus Christ DISPROVED your FALSE claim as well as the FALSE claim of the Jews.

Jesus Christ NEVER claim to be God.
That Lie against Jesus, is now the doctrine of Trinity today.
The wicked Jews laid the foundation for the FRAUD Christendom copied from them.

so who were the other spirit sons ?

Eagban:
Understanding the deity of Jesus is fundamental in defending the truth of the Christian faith.The identity of Jesus Christ is at the core of the Christian message, that is why Jesus asked his disciples, "who do you say I am?"( Matt 16:15)...

Peter acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God(Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Matthew 16:16 WEB
https://bible.com/bible/206/mat.16.16.WEB).

Paul acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God (Rom 1:1-3 KJV - 1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh).

The angel Gabriel acknowledged Jesus Christ as Son of God (The angel answered her, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore also the holy one who is born from you will be called the Son of God.
Luke 1:35 WEB
https://bible.com/bible/206/luk.1.35.WEB).

The demons acknowledged Jesus as Son of God (Mat 8:29 KJV - 29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?).

Jesus Christ showed He is deity by forgiving the sins of the paralytic (Mark 2: 1-12) and the Jewish leaders acknowledged it and were riled because of it.

The only motive I see here is Jesus wanted the whole world to know He is God..

Barrister Maximus69 you do not have any sound argument. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and savior. If you reject him you reject God.

WizzyVine:
I saw no evidence.

WizzyVine:
No wonder, you guys use logic to interpret the things of the spiri That's why you are filled with heresy. I am one with Christ but I am not Christ because I didn't pre-exist as Christ before becoming a man. However, my oneness with Christ gives me authority over Satan to put him where he belongs. Christ's being one with the Father is in the sense that it was the Father Himself who manifested Himself as the Son:

1Timothy 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, [/b]justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Which goalpost have I shifted? .

WizzyVine:
That's where you err. You can't see that Jesus is God in Spirit and man in flesh. You can't come to the basic truth of scripture.

1Timothy 3:16

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, [/b]justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Hallelujah!!!

WizzyVine:
I saw no evidence. There are so many scriptures pointing to Christ's Godship, not Romans 9;4-5 alone.

Philippians 2:5-6:

You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.

John 20:27
Then he said to Thomas,
“Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 20:28

Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.


Refute all the above scriptures. Tell the comma and fullstop stories again, and get your Moffat screenshots. There are still more coming. I'll be back.

Why have you allowed the devil to fill your heart with falsehood? If we worship an angel, then, we are idol worshippers. The only Person worthy of our worship is God.

The fact you can't refute..
Bros, John 14:28, John 20:27, Jesus Christ says twisted version of your Phil 2:6 is a Fraud
Phillipians2:6 "He was God" is a fraudulent addition in that verse
"In the form of God" is the accurate rendition
I will prove it.

haddeylium:
For me to understand you...
Give answers to these

(Heb1;9)You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you[b] above your companions[/b] by anointing you with the oil of joy."


Who is Jesus' God?
Who are his companion that God annoited him above?
Why the need to be anointed?
Give ur answers and we move

WizzyVine:
Twist the scriptures as you wish. The same Greek and Hebrew manuscripts are they that told you that Jesus Christ is Michael.

The Gospel of John chapter 1 corroborates Romans 9:4-5, in that it says "The Word was God." Isaiah 9:6 says the Virgin born Son is the Everlasting Father, the Mighty God.

What are my trying hard to sell? The truth of those scriptures isn't hidden. They were written in plain language which you and your cronies are trying so hard to twist.

Another hard sell

Your Everlasting Father says himself is subject in heaven to his Father & God
John 20:17. Rev3: 5,12

Deal with it.

WizzyVine:
Hahahaha, laughable.

We believers are one with Christ. We are the body of Christ, and Christ is the Head of the body.

I Cor. 12:27
Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.

Colossians 1:18

"And he is the head of the body, the church..."

These are spiritual things far removed from the understanding of canal men who use logic to find spiritual truth.

solite3:
@ bolded


Luke 1:32
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

It means that Jesus was never the son of God before the announcement, since the angel announced that Jesus [b]shall be called the son of the highest[/b].

Same language with Isaiah 9vv6.

WizzyVine:
Why cut off the quoted scriptures?

Liar!! Paul never said he and Appolos are one. Please quote that scripture here directly. Who do you want to deceive?

Paul's discourse about Appolos is found in 1Cor. 1 and 3. Point the verse that says Paul and Appolos are one.

I quoted scriptures that directly stated that Jesus Christ is God ( Romans 9:4-5), you cut off those scriptures and substituted them for lies. This shows that you are not looking for the truth, you are only looking for someone to deceive.

MuttleyLaff:
"This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High;
and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father,"
- Luke 1:32 Jehovah Witnesses New World Translation (2013 Revision)

Can you please help explain how Maximus69 managed to add strange fire to the above verse with inserting God in it after "... called Son of the Most High", hmm?

You are even worse than the bad of them Maximus69 & Co. Smh

WizzyVine:
Now answer your questions for yourself.

When Jesus said "I and my Father are one", what did you think He meant?

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

WizzyVine:
I have answered these questions many times today. Read my mentions but let me drop a scripture here for you:


Romans 9:4-5

King James

Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.


New Living Translation

Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen"

Christian Standard Bible

The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, praised forever. Amen.

New International Version

"Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen."

Now answer your questions for yourself.

When Jesus said "I and my Father are one", what did you think He meant?

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free

solite3:
Smh, you are just confused

WizzyVine:
The entire Book of Revelation was centered around Jesus and His coming kingdom with all the events that are bound to happen in-between. All the appearances of Jesus were recorded.

*1) So,if Jesus was the One fighting with His angels as you quoted, then it should read "...Jesus fought with His angels."

@*2)
Note that, Michael is a Commander. He is a warrior angel who has other warring angels under him,[/b]and they all go at the bidding of the Lord Jesus

*3)
[b]However, Michael has never in all of the Bible sent any angel on an errand, to deliver a message for Him as Jesus signified in Revelation 22.

*4)
In Daniel 10:21, we were told who Michael is. He's the guardian angel for the nation of Israel. He fights at God's command against Israel's enemies. He is not the only begotten Son of God, he's not the Word of God, he's not the one who was, who is and who is to come. Michael is not "the lamb of God who taketh away the sins of the world."

Satan (the dragon) indeed owns his own angels, and his own demons, since he's the god of this world. And he's the one all darkness worship. Michael only has angels just as Buratai has soldiers.

bloodofthelamb:
JW cronies has flooded the thread like an angel of light seeking for whom to deceive. Beware!

Martha, The sister of Lazarus get SENSE wey you and the OP reject

Worse still, Triune pagan IDOLS WORSHIPPERS go to great DUBIOUS length to Add, REMOVE and commit FORGERY to TWIST the holy Scriptures to suit their DELUSION

John 11:27, Martha no gree for them

Csonice1:
No no no. you, read it from your own Bible, but make sure it's not twisted to cover up your insecurities.

While Christ was in the Earth: before He was Re-entrusted with the glory of the throne, he was subject to the Father. because he has stripped himself of glory: laid down his rights to the throne; he became mortal. of course he was not mortal ; he became a man, sent by the one who sat on the Throne, he became a servant; laid down his life; do you know how many things he laid down just for our redemption?

Philippians2:5-11 throws more light on this.
also read Hebrews1:1-3

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]
Jesus is God Almighty and there is no PEACE amongst them,
it's Yam pepper scatter scatter ~ "isu ata yán an yàn an"
- © Copyright Maximus69

That shared projection epiphany (i.e. John 8:42, "exerchomai'') pepper you wella wella causing you sifia pains

"From the beginning I revealed to you what would happen.
These words came out of My mouth, and I made them known.
Suddenly, I acted, and they happened"
- Jeremiah 16:17

"Who is this Janosky that obscures My plans with words without knowledge?
(i.e. Who is this Janosky that questions My wisdom with such ignorant words?
"Who is this Janosky who keeps darkening My counsel without knowing what he's talking about?
Why do you Janosky talk so much when you know so little?
Who is this Janosky that wrappeth up sentences in unskillful words?
Who are you Janosky to question My wisdom with your ignorant, empty words?)"
- Job 38:2

Fyi, if you havent yet read the memo. The Godhead is triune or trinity and more. The Godhead is Infinity, Infinite. To be infinite is to be without limits or limitations and being truly infinite, means God knows no restrictions of space, ability or power and He isn't limited to three persons either. Capisce now?

OLAADEGBU:
Satan got this group into believing another gospel and preaches another Jesus who did not die on the cross. The way of the Cross leads home.

For instance,Esther 7:10
"So they impaled Haman on the pole he had set up for Mordecai"
Upright pole = Stake

Your Triune pagan IDOLS goes hand in hand with the cross, a pagan contraption, not Jesus Christ of the holy Bible.

Exodus 20:3-5,That cross symbol in your Church confirmed your status as IDOL WORSHIPPERS.

No man made pagan contraption can save you , continue to console yourself

Csonice1:
okay. thanks. but you don't know the scriptures.
that's why you tempt me with such questions.

I recommend
john1:1-3 and
Philippians2:5-11

anyway I added a few words to my last post before you commented...

Csonice1:
Every thing that the enemy is manifesting is a counterfeit of God's principles;

Do you know about out of the body experiences?
The person out of the body is the same as the source from which the spirit came forth, ie the body: for an Omni-present one: the Spirit can have several "duplicates" at many places at the same time.[here, I'm trying to enlarge your perspective of the scriptures]

Now, Christ is God's Word. the same as God. with Him in the beginning. proceeding from Him. as Creator. Being God. John 1:1-3
both of them having The same Spirit. siting on the same throne. being United, just as a body having distinct parts.
Something amazing happened that you don't know about.
Philippians 2:5-11


Secondly,
I will think you are joking if the whole of you doesn't take responsibility for what a part of your body is doing. Any action worthy of commendation done by any part of the body is to the glory of the whole body; think about a skillful artist: the whole body works in unison. the part that was used for drawing [even though it's complete and unique on it's own] is not independent of the agreement of the brain [mind]. If I were to address you, I will call you your name; I don't have to call you in parts.

John 17:17, Luke 9:35, God's spoken word is not a person.
1 Corinthians 15:24-27 says you, Csonice1 no know the true God and you are not humble to learn
.

Have you ever read John 14:1?
.