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Acehart:
Yes. He is the Servant of Jehovah. Anyone who doesn’t know that is deceiving himself/herself.

MuttleyLaff:
I am showing you up for what a shameless hypocrite, double standard, and walking contradiction, the Jehovah's Witnesses organisation is

If Matthew 18:11, is an interpolation, and so not to be found in the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible), then why is 1 John 5:17, which too, isn't in the original early Greek text able to make it into the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible), why does Matthew 18:11 get the reject and pariah treatment, as if it is a leper, hmm?

Its no secret that the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) was dishonestly and entirely created for the sole purpose of supporting the very flawed and heretical doctrines of the Jehovah's Witnesses. This is why their translators are faceless and unknown

Bros, STOP this is ignorance about 1John5:7. The fake Textus receptus version ("in heaven the Father, the Word and the holy ghost. These three are one" FRAUD in KJV, Geneva, Weymouth Bibles) is not in the holy scriptures.
Bros, go and confirm. No disgrace yourself here.

Acehart:
Them together with the JW will be cast out

Eagban:
You just wasting your time arguing. Jesus Christ remains who He is - The MIGHTY GOD (Isaiah 9:6).

Eagban:
This is how Biblehub.com rendered it... And I am very much satisfied with it.

Acehart:
Yes and those ones too

Acehart:
You must really have mind reading abilities.
It must be a Jehovah-given gift, right?

You mentioned a competent JW brother schooling me... it is a nice suggestion. How many of the Elders from the Kingdom Hall have recoiled at sound doctrine from the person who bears the moniker, Acehart? Maybe you will end up lambasting them for being false JW elders.

Please sir from the Kingdom Hall, don’t flatter yourself. I know JWs are the present day “Elijah” -"What are you doing here, Elijah?" He replied, "I have been very zealous for the LORD God Almighty. The Israelites have rejected your covenant, I am the only one left“

As Elijah’s time faded away, so your time will fade away because the Lord will return to meet a Church without spots and wrinkles - yours can’t boast of that.

bloodofthelamb:
Your own case is something else

Eagban:
The Works you and your fellow witnesses have is to try to disprove the deity of Jesus. I can assure you it is practically impossible, ask the Jewish leaders.

Eagban:
I have told you and Maximus69 that since the Bible can't help you, I can't help you either..
We've gone through this several times.

bloodofthelamb:
You are not claiming follower of Christ but of Jehovah. Stop deceiving yourself!

MuttleyLaff:
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Look at this jagidijagidi bonafide kofam ogboju ole WAYO man pass WAYO, talk out of both sides of the mouth

If for the sake of pretending that you have a valid point of not being able to verbatim quote here, for all the world to see, what Matthew 18:11 says, pasting it here, obtained from the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) but giving a bullpiss excuse of a reason that the verse allegedly, is not found in early, when Pulpit Commentary, states the following: "For expository use, at any rate, we may consider the verse as genuine, and take it as" Now, if 1 John 5:17, too that isn't in the original early Greek text can make it into the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible), why does Matthew 18:11 get treated like as if a leper, hmm?

The whole Jehovah's Witnesses doctrine et cetera, is built upon a shaky, shallow foundation of fraud, WAYO, invention and make-believe.

You of course, know that Matthew 18:11, is just one of many verses JW have flippantly flung away and/or literally teared out of the Bible

Eagban:
I do not believe in any group, I only believe in Jesus...

Acts15:14 ,2 Chro7:14, Acts3:13, Isaiah 43:10-12, 1 Corinthians 3:23...
Bros, the real Jesus belongs to our God, Jehovah.
John 20:17, His Father and our God.
Bros, come and worship the one true God Jehovah whom Jesus Christ is worshipping

MuttleyLaff:

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Acehart, I just like you travel often to NWT, the Quran, Ethnic/aboriginal spirituality literatures, Book of Enoch (i.e. BoE) other apocryphal and pseudepigrapha books et cetera, but at the end of the journey, the bible is my home. I always touch base with my Bible home sweet home.

Why dont you use your charmful nature to get one or all of the Jehovah Witnesses family (i.e. Maximus69, Janosky, DappaD, haddeylium, TATIME et cetera, to pull out their fingers from under sitting on their hands, to verbatim quote here, for all the world to see, what Matthew 18:11 says in and from the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) and give whats the reason for it, if they are unable to successfully carry out this dead easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless, straightforward request

Eagban:
The preface of the NWT is as misleading as the NWT translation...

solite3:
Being is the essence of person
Person is the consciousness of self.

If two persons has one essence, they are one being but two consciousness (persons).

If two being has one person, that is one person in two essence.

MJBOLT:

i dont have time to read rubbish,tell us how people on earth will know if satan apologise to god.

MuttleyLaff:
Mister man, will you please stay in your hypocritical, sanctimonious, self lane. Afterall you did say, you are done with me, Mister Forgetful-Promise-Breaker

GRIMMJOE, ask him, Maximus69, to paste out here what Matthew 18:11 says in or from the New World Translation (i.e. NWT, that is the Jehovah's Witnesses' official bible) and whats the reason for it, if he is unable to do so

"Wọn pi irẹsi, oun na yọ sibi" loosely translates as "rice is served, he too is pulling out his cutlery"

MJBOLT:

if satan apologise to god,how will people on earth even know?

Eagban:
I can give you 30 different Bible translations of John 1:1 but you can't give me 15 different translations that supports your New world translation. The one you'll most likely quote will be the one of Johannes Greber( a known Spirit medium).

The bone of contention here is how the last words (Greek1510 and Greek 2316) in John1:1 should be translated.

In the entire Bible there is only one legitimate way of translating Greek 1510, Greek 2316).

There are 3 genuine evidences for sticking to the legitimate way for translating Greek John 1:1c.
*1) Greek 1510, 2316 is the same Greek grammatical construct in both places it is found in the holy Bible- Acts 28:6 and John 1:1c.
Greek 1510 Greek 2316= was a god.
" A god" meaning "godlike, like God, "divine/divine nature/quality
A god is divine, of God, like God but not Yahweh EL Shaddai. (Check "Divine" , your Dictionary go help you small .
Exodus 7:1 Yahweh made Moses divine.
See the Dictionary screenshot)

Note:
Angel Michael meaning " the Messenger,son of God Who is like God?"

*2 Greek John 1:1b= The word (Jesus) was facing towards the God (Yahweh).

Trinity mongers, Is Almighty Yahweh facing towards himself?
If you are honest, only different spirit beings will face towards each other.



*3) The harmonious validation of the New Testament by the Old Testament provided very strong evidences for disclaimer of the dubious but popular version of John 1:1c.
Deut 6:4, Yahweh is one God.
John 17:3. One True God is the Father of Jesus, according to Jesus.
John20:17, Rev3:5,12,21 One True God is our Father/God and the God/Father of Jesus Christ in heaven since time immemorial.
According to Jesus.

Acehart:
Welcome from the field. You haven’t answered my question. If you wouldn’t answer, no wahala. Rest.

sonmvayina:
Fact..

Acehart:
My friend, I read the NWT sometimes; so don’t think I think it is fake. Have we met?

You mentioned tithes - have you collected one from me? If I say you are a bitter person, you will be doing one kind. Your fight shouldn’t be with me, my friend.

We aren’t discussing about Bible versions, so let our conviction speak; what is the meaning of “God”? Please tell me in your own words, your own conviction.

Bros, no be fight, I have no bitterness in my bones

Your claim is FALSE.
Those scriptures I cited on this thread shaped my convictions about God.

Bros, you don't need any paper qualifications to understand John 20:17, John 17:3, John 14:28, John 11:27,Ephesians 4:6 or Revelations 3:5,12.
These verses are in all Bibles, including yours

Eagban:
The NWT is a perversion of the Bible translated by a committee that have little or no knowledge of Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek.

FALSE claim.
Bros, go and study the Preface of the New Word Translation and stop deceiving yourself.

So you have to sink this low to resort to Desperado tactics ?

solite3:
Yes the trinity can be difficult for the human mind to grasped but yet nonetheless true.
@,bolded, yes many face these questions but only an honest study of the bible would give an accurate answer.
Atleast from the bible, God is described as one being and also in more than persons.

The confusion most do face, is not realizing the difference between 'being's and 'person',
While being refers to the essence, person refers to an individualized consciousness or awareness.

That God is a trinue person is totally compactable with Deuteronomy 6v4.

Do you know that the oneness of Deuteronomy 6v4 is that of plurality rather than that of singularity?

There two words use for unity in hebrew, one is yachad which means a unity of singular person and Echad which means a unity of more than one person. Surprisingly, the word that was used for God's oneness in Deuteronomy 6v4 was Echad, giving credence like many other verses to the plurality of persons within the Godhead.

WAYO man, after your dictionary rejected your twisting of "being" & person" , you pick race go twist Hebrew language to console yourself

I challenge you to name any Servant of Jehovah God who taught the Trinity FRAUD to the Jews

Acehart:
The Trinity of God - Hmmm. Only through the scriptures can one know by divine revelation alone that God is a Unity of Three personalities. THE doctrine of the Trinity is perhaps the most mysterious and difficult doctrine that is presented to us in the entire range of Scripture. Conse- quently, we do not presume to give a full explanation of it. In the nature of the case, we can know only as much concerning the inner nature of the Godhead as has been revealed to us in the Scriptures. Natural reason can not grasped it and any explanation using natural reasoning would be subjective and filled with flaws.

When Ezekiel saw a vision of the Cherubs and the wheel that turns them, there was something unique about their movement: there was great synchronization, so much that each one knew the mind of the other and the movement of one was the movement of all. This is how super-organisms move. For instance, an ant colony: the knowledge of one ant is the knowledge of all: one ant’s movement determines the movement of the colony. When ant colonies are studied, it has been universally accepted that millions of ants move as if they were ONE ant especially during the transmission of information and reaction to danger. The faces of the Cherubs in Ezekiel’s vision were a reflection of the One who sat on the Throne of Heaven.

In the NT, we see clearly that in the act of redemption from sin, three personalities were involved. The synchronization of their contribution fits perfectly like the “wheel in the middle of the wheel” in Ezekiel’s vision.

Where many people stumble in this very difficult subject is in the meaning of the word “God”. Is God a person? Is God a title? Is “God” an attribution? Another place people stumble is in the meaning of the description “Son of God”. This subject is the greatest mystery of all and since the scriptures reveals that no one can know about God except by revelation; however, what ever one’s revelation is, it must not come in conflict with Deuteronomy 6:4.

American Standard Version, Darby Translation
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah

Ephesians 4:6
" One God and Father of All who is over all"

@ John 14:28, did Jesus Christ confirm that Ephesians 4:6 , Rev3:5 & John 20:17 is the truth?
Capital YES!!!!!!

Trinity scam belongs to the Sewage Tank

Acehart:
Please, tell me in your own words, the way you would tell if you knocked on my door to preach about Paradise.

John20:17, John 17:3, John 11:27 and Rev3:5,12,21 free of charge no tithe no sowing of seed with your hard earned income
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Acehart:
Please tell me according to your own words, from your understanding.

Acehart:
What is the meaning of “God”?

CodeTemplar:
So why was there a distance between Lazarus and the rich man after death if was the common grave dead men go to?

Emusan:
That's why I always say you lack simple comprehension!

Holy Spirit came as the greatest teacher and the disciples' knowledge were brighten and they never reached any wrong thing because the Holy Spirit is a working in them.

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Mr LIENUS, "Jesus disciples never reached any wrong thing", why were they disputing about the issue of Circumcision?
Absence or presence of holy spirit can not remove imperfections of Jesus followers.

Now we definitely know you're here forming James Bond while you receive "Expo" from JWs

Emusan:
The question you'll never answer still remain, did they die without knowing circumcision is wrong or right?

Mr accolade lying liar