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Acehart:
@1
The word ‘person‘, when used on this subject, does not mean a separate individual, but a distinct subsistence. It denotes a distinction in the divine Being [that is] real, but inexplicable


@2
. No one ought to deny the true and supreme divinity of the Son. Of Him, the Scripture says:“This is the true God and eternal life” (1Jo 5:20).
Culled from: https://chapellibrary.org:8443/pdf/books/tgodfg.pdf

Bros, John 17:3, Jesus Christ have spoken that your 1John5:20 is a Dubious, fraudulent twisting of the holy scriptures.

Una WAYO is legendary

Preciousgirl:
John 17:5

And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

So Jesus shared Glory with the Father before even the word was, wooooow

Who is this Jesus?

Remember God shares His glory with no one

rottennaija:
Screenshot of some reasons

JWs will continue to shun you.
Your own Bible ordered JWs to do so.
Continue your childish tantrums and keep Wailing in sifia pains

rottennaija:
What standard? Falsehood? Misappropriation of funds? Flipping kingdom halls for profit? (Lu 12:15) Hiding paedophiles? Misapplication of bible? Hatred? Worshiping the governing body? Lying both in public and in court? Joining the United Nations? (1 Co 10:7,14) Tossing members about by every wind of changing doctrine? (Eph 4:14)

Not the standard I have any interest in keeping.

You say You no love wetin interest you before, you go just jejely jakpa and catch fun like kilode,you no send but your case done become recurring addiction......Excess viral load of anti JW syndrome no get cure

Whenever Rottennaija is bored and dejected, he runs to NL to mourn & rant like a broken record.
He only gets "'high' on this forum.

Emusan:
See how the demonic organization exposed their own false religion.

And today, the modern JWs have regarded their teachings DARKNESS. Definitely, it's because their doctrines are man made, as rightly said by them.

Buliwyf:
Later the JW guys will be screaming persecution and discrimination when they discriminate and persecute others at the slightest opportunity. Watch how they come to attack me now.

brocab:

Everytime you write something-you put the words out of context-"why can't Jesus receive His own authority-He made His own Choices just like we make choices everyday...
You just don't get it into your head-because I have taking authority into account by choice to write down the scriptures for you.
I have taking on the authority to stand on the Word of God-God gave me this authority-the time God called me into His kingdom, and I take His authority and use His Word to overcome those like you-who are trying to crush everything God promised He will do for His people.
And if you were to read the scriptures, it tells us No-one has seen God at any time, so how does one see Jehovah-if he doesn't see Jesus first.
God is Spirit-He is Love-but yet God the Father was working through Jesus, 'in Jesus, when Jesus came into the world in Spirit and in truth to save His people.

Emusan:
I know you're short of memory and it's because your brainwashing has passed beyond redemption.

You brought Peter into this by saying



Only to ask in your next post



It will take more than 50 good resounding slaps to force sense into your deluded brain.


Emusan:

1.Why would Jehovah allow someone who made mistakes part of His Son's heavenly call?

2.But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?

solite3:
Zombie watch tower pagan devotee said that a person and a being are the same.

Solite3 , you have only successfully shown you lack SENSE
Your dictionary says
"A being is a living creature"
"A person is an individual"
= A being is 1 person.

Solite3 WAYO man, 2 persons=1 being.
Ozuor vbe hin

bloodofthelamb:
If possessor is too big for you to understand, let me break it down for you. The synonym of "possessor" is "owner." In the case of Gen14:19,22 Abram was right, God is the possessor(owner)(Qanah) of heaven and earth because He created (bara) it. But in the case of Proverb 8:22 God possess(owns)(Qanah) wisdom from time immorial, or should I say before time began, not that He created(bara) it before owning (Qanah) it.

Now run along!

Bros, wetin God own in Genesis 14:19, Prov8:22-30, Psalms 139:13, which He did not create?
Let's Name them, Heaven, Genesis 14:19,22.

Womb, kidneys, Psalms 139:13.
The Master craftsman, Wisdom, Proverbs 8:22-30.

WAYO man, Master Craftsman na living being
All of them, Ownership by Creation. Confirmed .

Jehovah created the Master craftsman,a living being called "Wisdom" in Proverbs 8:22-30.
No dey DECEIVE YOURSELF!

Emusan:
But Peter didn't die in his disbelieve, does he?

The Accolade and lying liar JWs

OLAADEGBU:
Is your name written in the book of life?

OLAADEGBU:
I have no problem with the verses cited but if you object to them then tell us how unless they are saying something different in your NWT.

MuttleyLaff:
I never discussed or asked you about connection, all that's asked you is to speak up, and tell, who is talking, who is looked at and who is pierced in that gentle, non-dangerous easily understood Zechariah 12:10 verse

How is this such a difficult question for you to let us know who is talking, who is looked at and who is pierced in that gentle, non-dangerous easily understood Zechariah 12:10 verse, hmm?

Zechariah 12:10
"I will fill the descendants of David and the other people of Jerusalem with the spirit of mercy and the spirit of prayer. They will look at the one whom they stabbed to death, and they will mourn for him like those who mourn for an only child. They will mourn bitterly, like those who have lost their first-born son."



Yahweh is speaking about the future affliction on his first born Son , Jesus Christ.


Zechariah 12:10 Rubber stamp Romans 8:3,32

MuttleyLaff:
I guess you're scared to give your answers to that easy, simple, direct, innocent, harmless and straightforward question. You dont want to face reality and the truth about who is talking, who is looked at and who is pierced in that gentle, non-dangerous easily understood Zechariah 12:10 verse

OLAADEGBU:
Are you scared to quote them here or are they different from what we all know?

MuttleyLaff:
I guess you want to feign ignorance of the popular Napoleon Bonaparte quote: "If you want a thing done well, do it yourself"

Your man made quote can not change Romans 8:3,32 or John 3:16, or John 20:17.

John 19:6-7,
When the head cohanim and the Temple guards saw him they shouted, “Put him to death on the stake! Put him to death on the stake!” Pilate said to them, “You take him out yourselves and put him to death on the stake, because I don’t find any case against him.” 7 The Judeans answered him, “We have a law; according to that law, he ought to be put to death, because he made himself out to be the Son of God.”


Muttleylaff Those who murdered your Triune deity knows better than you.
Bros, argue with them

MuttleyLaff:
Janosky: "Dear Jesus, who is the omnipotent God?"
Jesus: "The Father seeks such people to worship Him. God is a spirit."
Janosky: "I see: you mean that your Father is the omnipotent God and that He is a spirit, ONE spirit. Crystal clear: this means that God is just a spirit and not THREE IN ONE as generally claimed !"
Janosky: "But if your Father is now a spirit, was He ALWAYS a spirit ?"
Jesus: "O righteous Father, the world has not known you...no one has ever seen God"
Janosky: "Yes, I can figure out: your Father only existed in the past, this is why He is only a spirit now! This is why you "inherited" the reign of God (The Father loves the Son and has given ALL THINGS into His hand.)
Janosky: "Well, how could we call now "God who is a spirit"? But of course: "the Spirit of God" ! Now I understand why "John saw the Spirit of God" (the Spirit of your Father) descend as a dove and say "You are my beloved Son.... !"
Janosky: "But WHERE is your Father, the almighty God now? God cannot die or disappear, of course!"
[color=red][b]Jesus: "He who has seen Me has seen the Father[/[/b]b]"[/color]
[b]Janosky: So is it: "You were the Father, you were Him! "Son" only means that you COME from the Father, not that you are like a real Son! But what is the difference between you and your Father?"
Jesus: "I can do nothing on My own"
Janosky: "I see: this means that you lost your power in order to become like a normal man! This of course means that for any miracle you must turn to the Father, who now works here in the form of a spirit"
Janosky: " Well we could say that you are not the omnipotent God anymore but also that you are not distinct from Him..."
Jesus: "the Father is in Me and I am in the Father".

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"Then I will pour out on the house of David
and on the people of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and prayer,
and they will look on Me, the One they have pierced.
They will mourn for Him as one mourns for an only child,
and grieve bitterly for Him as one grieves for a firstborn son"
- Zechariah 12:10

Janosky, who is that talking, then particularly looked at and also pierced in Zechariah 12:10 above?

OLAADEGBU:
Why are you afraid of quoting the references you cited up there?

OLAADEGBU:
Pastor Kumuyi said:

Emusan:
Who is getting emotional?



Why didn't the all-knowing Father know the action of mortal men he created before happening?

When Jesus a mighty God knows who will betray Him from beginning.



And who is talking about predestined here



Do you think the Father can hide anything from the Son who they are ONE?

John 15:15, Jesus teach what his God and Father taught him, very honest and perfect.
Jesus no be WAYO man like you who forge and twists the holy scriptures.

bingbagbo:
John 16:30-32

[30]Now we are sure that You know all things, and have no need that anyone should question You. By this we believe that You came forth from God.”

[31]Jesus answered them, “Do you now believe?


Deal with it antichrist

KNOWMORE56:
I still maintain that the Matthew 24:14 you quoted does not have the word save/salvation in it. True or false?

KNOWMORE56:
Yes, I believe Him and worship Him as THOMAS did;

Yes, I believe Him and worship Him as the blind man did;

*. John 20:28 "KJV:And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

*. John 9:38
KJV:And he said, Lord, I believe. And HE WORSHIPPED HIM.

Now let's see your Bible references:

*. Hosea 12: 3 "KJV:He took his brother by the heel in the womb, and by his strength he had power with God:
4
KJV:Yea, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spake with us"

*. Psalms 82:1 "1
KJV:God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
6
KJV:I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.


I do not see the word worship in your quotations.

The case of 'The voice is Jacob's but the hand is Esau's'

You quoted the word but your explanations is from watchtower.

Too bad.

brocab:
Not only did Jesus say He is the Son-Jesus also said He and the Father are One-and if Jesus can forgive sin's and God too-then this proves these are of One mind soul and body at the same time-and still His being mocked by you.
{John 14:8-9} "Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.”
Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?…
*1) All authority was given to Jesus- **2 no-one has seen the Father without knowing His Son. Of course you are trying to slip through the back door-trying to reach the Father without Jesus! "Typical..

KNOWMORE56:
This is what I always tell you, quote relevant scriptures.

Matthew 24: 14 has the phrase 'the kingdom '

from where did you get 'Jehovah's kingdom '?

I do not see the word 'save' in that verse, why did you insert it in your commentary?

Now, read Acts 4:12 again;


*. Acts 4:12 "KJV:Neither is there SALVATION in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN given among men, whereby we must be SAVED.

Can you see the words SALVATION,SAVED
in this verse?

KNOWMORE56:
Yes, I believe Him and worship Him as THOMAS did;

Yes, I believe Him and worship Him as THOMAS did;

heendrix:
Congrats to every Redeemers

We Jehovah witness may God give us enough funds to buy Both Jets, Copters and Drones to spread the gospel in every nooks and crannies round the country and beyond.

MuttleyLaff:
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"⁵“Lord,” said Thomas,
“we do not know where You are going, so how can we know the way?”
⁶Jesus answered,
“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me
⁷If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well.
From now on, you do know Him and have seen Him.”
⁸Philip said to Him,
“Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.”
⁹Jesus replied,
“Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me?
Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father.
How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?"
- John 14:5-9

I can imagine how Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, must have felt, that Philip, all that while, just as like Janosky, didn't get it, that He, is the Father Incarnate on earth

Why you ignorantly lump me as Trinity FRAUD, is Field Marshal Alhaji Dr. Idi Amin Dada RIP laughable

Maximus69:
Let me not say anything at all regarding the bolded because i may insult TRINITY!

solite3:
false witness, where did solite3 say the father and Jesus are the same person?
Jesus is Jehovah yes
But where did I ever say Jesus is the father?

MuttleyLaff:
"*1Though He was God, He did not think of equality with God as something to cling to."
- Philippians 2:6

*2
Your handicap is that you are looking at God as if God is Mr Bin.

Are you saying that it is hard and impossible for God to project Himself, hmm? I dont think, you've ever done a 2 Timothy 2:15 on the above Philippians 2:6 yet. When you do get to, please look up the Greek word "morph" used in the verse, maybe after, you might get the epiphany on how God projected Himself to move into a different place and time constraint

I am in a generous and kinder mood, so will save you, going to lift up the floorboards yourself

The Greek word "morph" used in Philippians 2:6 above, carries the sense of "shape/reshape", "change", "modify", "switch/switching", "transform", "transfigure", "transmute", "shift",

You find the word used with meanings, in such words as: amorphous, anthropomorphism, metamorphose/metamorphosis

Isaiah 42:1
Here is My Servant, whom I uphold, My Chosen One, in whom My soul delights. I will put My Spirit on Him, and He will bring justice to the nations.

Matthew 3:17
And a voice from heaven said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!"

Matthew 12:18
"Here is My servant, whom I have chosen, My beloved, in whom My soul delights. I will put My Spirit on Him, and He will proclaim justice to the nations.
Isaiah 42:1, Matthew 3:17, Matthew 12:18, Yahweh's voice says your "morph" sophistry is HOGWASH.

Phillipians2:6 = Romans 8:3. Galatians 4:4
The son of God living in the spirit form left heaven and came to earth in the likeness of man (human form).

If you like go take Morphine make you metamorphose

Maximus69:
It's the official version for Trinitarians!