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Emusan:
[s]Mr accolade lying liar JWs!

No more reasonable things to say than ranting and spewing thrashes.

I know your type before [/s]

See wetin dey pepper you...

Matt22:44, Acts 2:34-35, Psalms 110:1-2 dey your Bible? Mr LIENUS, take note... Hebrew 1:13
"Yahweh commanded your deity, " Sit at my right hand".. Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty Fraud.
Mr LIENUS in sifia pains.
Him no like him deity obeying his Father's command : "Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as stool for your feet"

Emusan:
Then why did Russell and his pagan team worship Jesus?

Did Matt 4:10 & Mark 12:29-30 lost in Russell Bible that time, before he promotes the worship of Jesus Christ?



That's why I always say you lack simple comprehension!

Holy Spirit came as the greatest teacher and the disciples' knowledge were brighten and they never reached any wrong thing because the Holy Spirit is a working in them.

Now, Russell claimed the same Holy Spirit was with him, yet promotes the worship of Jesus Christ, believe Jesus died on the cross.

But today the same Holy Spirit says Jesus shouldn't be worshipped and he didn't died on the cross.

[s]Can you see your delusions?



You can tear it from your demonic translation.




Just keep ranting as usual without addressing the main issue.

Deluded Mr accolade[/s].

Emusan:
See frustration of a lost soul!

See who is talking about lacking sense and manner

Hypocrite!

Matt22:44, Acts 2:34-35, Psalms 110:1-2 dey your Bible? Mr LIENUS, take note... Hebrew 1:13
"Yahweh commanded your deity, " Sit at my right hand".. Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty Fraud

Emusan:
1. But do they know Jesus is not to be worshipped?
2. Do the early Christians know Jesus is not to be worshipped?



Mr accolade lying liar JWs.

If you use sceipute to proof Jesus is Angel Michael

1. Was these scriptures not available during the time of Russell?
2. Who inspired that Jesus isn't Michael?

These are the questions that'll continue to expose your fraudulent doctrines.



The deluded JWs here again.

If it's in this order then your fraudulent doctrines are keep exposing the more

7And God will provide rest for you who are being persecuted and also for us when the Lord Jesus appears from heaven. He will come with his mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire, bringing judgment on those who don’t know God and on those who refuse to obey the Good News of our Lord Jesus. 9 They will be punished with eternal destruction, forever separated from the Lord and from his glorious power. NLT

Fact from this scripture:
1. Jesus will come with His mighty Angels, Do this happen in 1914?
2. Bringing judgement on those who don't know God and those who refuse to obey the good news of Lord Jesus, has this been achieved?
3. They will be punish with eternal destruction, when do this happen?

This is an evidence that second coming of Christ is different from the fraud presented by your lying organization.

I know you'll just come and rant again without addressing the main point.

Matt22:44, Acts 2:34-35, 1Corinthians15:25, Psalms 110:1-2 dey your Bible?
Mr LIENUS, take note... Hebrews1:13
"Yahweh commanded your deity, " Sit at my right hand".. Mr LIENUS, exponent of Jesus is God Almighty Fraud .

Soon and very soon, Jehovah God will give His angel, your deity the command to carry out 2 Thess1:7-9

Mr LIENUS & fictitious claims na Siamese twins

Emusan:
Imagine, see the frustration of a lost soul!

No wonder you're so restless on Nairaland jumping from thread to thread being tormented.

So if you're not forcing it on people, why so much restlessness in your life?

They'll decide because they know who is twisting the scripture.

Eagban:
The New World Translation (NWT) is defined by the Jehovah’s Witnesses’ parent organization (the Watchtower Society) as "a translation of the Holy Scriptures made directly from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek into modern-day English by a committee of anointed witnesses of Jehovah." The NWT is the anonymous work of the “New World Bible Translation Committee.” Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that the anonymity is in place so that the credit for the work will go to God. Of course, this has the added benefit of keeping the translators from any accountability for their errors and prevents real scholars from checking their academic credentials.

The New World Translation is unique in one thing – it is the first intentional, systematic effort at producing a complete version of the Bible that is edited and revised for the specific purpose of agreeing with a group’s doctrine. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Watchtower Society realized that their beliefs contradicted Scripture. So, rather than conforming their beliefs to Scripture, they altered Scripture to agree with their beliefs. The “New World Bible Translation Committee” went through the Bible and changed any Scripture that did not agree with Jehovah’s Witness theology. This is clearly demonstrated by the fact that, as new editions of the New World Translation were published, additional changes were made to the biblical text. As biblical Christians continued to point out Scriptures that clearly argue for the deity of Christ (for example), the Watchtower Society would publish new editions of the New World Translation with those Scriptures changed. Here are some of the more prominent examples of intentional revisions:

The New World Translation renders the Greek term word staurós ("cross" as "torture stake" because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe that Jesus was crucified on a cross. The New World Translation does not translate the words sheol, hades, gehenna, and tartarus as "hell” because Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe in hell. The NWT gives the translation "presence" instead of “coming” for the Greek word parousia because Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that Christ has already returned in the early 1900s. In Colossians 1:16, the NWT inserts the word “other” despite its being completely absent from the original Greek text. It does this to give the view that “all other things” were created by Christ, instead of what the text says, “all things were created by Christ.” This is to go along with their belief that Christ is a created being, which they believe because they deny the Trinity.

The most well-known of all the New World Translation perversions is John 1:1. The original Greek text reads, “the Word was God.” The NWT renders it as “the word was a god.” This is not a matter of correct translation, but of reading one’s preconceived theology into the text, rather than allowing the text to speak for itself. There is no indefinite article in Greek (in English, "a" or "an", so any use of an indefinite article in English must be added by the translator. This is grammatically acceptable, so long as it does not change the meaning of the text.

There is a good reason why theos has no definite article in John 1:1 and why the New World Translation rendering is in error. There are three general rules we need to understand to see why.

1. In Greek, word order does not determine word usage like it does in English. In English, a sentence is structured according to word order: Subject - Verb - Object. Thus, "Harry called the dog" is not equivalent to "the dog called Harry." But in Greek, a word’s function is determined by the case ending found attached to the word’s root. There are two case endings for the root theo: one is -s (theos), the other is -n (theon). The -s ending normally identifies a noun as being the subject of a sentence, while the -n ending normally identifies a noun as the direct object.

2. When a noun functions as a predicate nominative (in English, a noun that follows a being verb such as "is", its case ending must match the noun’s case that it renames, so that the reader will know which noun it is defining. Therefore, theo must take the -s ending because it is renaming logos. Therefore, John 1:1 transliterates to "kai theos en ho logos." Is theos the subject, or is logos? Both have the -s ending. The answer is found in the next rule.

3. In cases where two nouns appear, and both take the same case ending, the author will often add the definite article to the word that is the subject in order to avoid confusion. John put the definite article on logos (“the Word”) instead of on theos. So, logos is the subject, and theos is the predicate nominative. In English, this results in John 1:1 being read as "and the Word was God" (instead of "and God was the word".

The most revealing evidence of the Watchtower’s bias is their inconsistent translation technique. Throughout the Gospel of John, the Greek word theon occurs without a definite article. The New World Translation renders none of these as “a god.” Even more inconsistent, in John 1:18, the NWT translates the same term as both "God" and "god" in the very same sentence.

The Watchtower, therefore, has no hard textual grounds for their translation—only their own theological bias. While New World Translation defenders might succeed in showing that John 1:1 can be translated as they have done, they cannot show that it is the proper translation. Nor can they explain the fact that that the NWT does not translate the same Greek phrases elsewhere in the Gospel of John the same way. It is only the pre-conceived heretical rejection of the deity of Christ that forces the Watchtower Society to inconsistently translate the Greek text, thus allowing their error to gain some semblance of legitimacy in the minds of those ignorant of the facts.

It is only the Watchtower’s pre-conceived heretical beliefs that are behind the dishonest and inconsistent translation that is the New World Translation. The New World Translation is most definitely not a valid version of God’s Word. There are minor differences among all the major English translations of the Bible. No English translation is perfect. However, while other Bible translators make minor mistakes in the rendering of the Hebrew and Greek text into English, the NWT intentionally changes the rendering of the text to conform to Jehovah’s Witness theology. The New World Translation is a perversion, not a version, of the Bible.

Emusan:
I don't even need to go to the fraud of 1914 because it's visible to blind.




I wonder how you people will bring an analogy yet fail to reconcile it with your point. That's pure dullness.

The WHEAT didn't FINALLY eliminate by the WEED this is known by any farmer which means even though there are weeds but it still ABOUND WHEAT among them.

So between the 1st century Christians and the time of Russell, there should be many WHEAT that still remain.



So there was not WHEAT before Russell was born.

Then it means the WEED finally eliminated the WHEAT, is that what you read from your own scripture?




How long will it take them for this understanding to be increased?

1. The Bible is already there
2. Holy Spirit as the greatest teacher has already in operation
3. Even adding your lie of Jesus invisibly came to the same people.

So why would they be in this DARKNESS for many years?

What is the essence of Bible, Holy Spirit and Jesus Himself if is still take them years and even died into this wrong teaching?



You've brought the issue of CONDEMNED again later you'll start twisting your lying mouth.

So how do you think Jesus will now COMDEMN anyone?




You didn't!

Russell and his pagan team died believing:

1. Worshipping of Jesus Christ is right
2. Jesus died on the Cross
3. They are herald of Jesus

So of what important did Jesus select them if not to change all these wrong teachings?

But alas, Jesus couldn't correct all these but started later, very pathetic!




But they know where they can find the quote "lost sheep of the house of Israel" in the Bible but couldn't find that Jesus is not to be worshipped.

Many years before Russell was born, Bible is already in plain English which is the very own Russell tongue.

So tell me, how the truth in the Bible in the 1st century to Russell time difference from now that made you know so much than him despite claiming to be inspired by the Holy Spirit?



See another bold twisting of the scripture!

Jesus didn't say, the WEED will overshadow the WHEAT but they'll grow together and ON THE LAST DAY, they'll be separated!

So, it's evident that there will always abound a WHEAT.

So how many WHEAT were there before Russell was born?

27 “The farmer’s workers went to him and said, ‘Sir, the field where you planted that good seed is full of weeds! Where did they come from?’ 28 “‘An enemy has done this!’ the farmer exclaimed. “‘Should we pull out the weeds?’ they asked. 29 “‘No,’ he replied, ‘you’ll uproot the wheat if you do. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. Then I will tell the harvesters to sort out the weeds, tie them into bundles, and burn them, and to put the wheat in the barn.’” NLT

You can see Jesus Himself isn't the HARVESTERS (plural) because Jesus Himself said "He will send His ANGELS to gather all His followers at the four CORNERS of the world"

This is judgement time!

The more you realize the damage wrong watchtower teaching has done to you the easier for you to loose yourself from the pan of yoke.



And who told you there's no LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst?

Can you provide a video of any gathering of the TRUE FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST where they're using chair and table to fight each other?

A statement from my JWs girlfriend "My Aunty died unhappy" why? because of what the organization did to her...

Like I do say, you can keep claiming false love, joy & peace for your organization but the reality is on ground.



So you're claiming before 1914 100% of Christians then we're LOST CHRISTIANS and participated in the WAR, POLITICS AND RACISM?

You're just irredeemable liar!

achorladey:
Maximus69: Before the reforms from 1914 ~ NO But after the reforms from 1914 ~ YES

Achorladey: scriptural evidence to back the above or I count it as EVERY CHANCE wind of TEACHING you have been taught to accept.

Don't forget that scripture cited was not talking about REFORMS

Emusan:
[s]Just as your deluded organization is confusing you because you don't know your left from your right.
[/s]

1)
But did they still grab His teachings or they all died WITHOUT GRABBING THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS?

You'll never receive sense


2)
So you have Bible as a guidance to know this yet back and forth confusion about Jesus is Michael.

1. Jesus is Michael
2. No! Jesus isn't Michael
3. Yes! Jesus is Michael

Who taught the second wrong teaching "Jesus Himself and the Holy Spirit or Satan?




The few ones who know about it, did they see Jesus IN THE MANNER HE WAS TAKEN UP"?

[s]You can see the confusion I'm talking about[/s]!

Your brother says Jesus second coming is to gather the lost sheep of the house of Israel and be teaching/correcting them but you said Jesus is executing JUDGEMENT.

Which is what I even told him that the second coming of Christ is about judgement not teaching or correction.

[s]You can see the person who is giving "expo"

Blind leading the blind[/s]!

Ken4Christ:
The story of the Rich man and Lazarus is not a parable. This story was narrated by our Lord Jesus as recorded in Luke 16:19-31

19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

If you examine this passage, specific characters where mentioned; Lazarus, Abraham and Moses. I believe Jesus knows the name of the rich man but deliberately didn't mention it.

In parables, specific characters are not mentioned. I challenge anyone who thinks otherwise to mention any other parable where names where mentioned.

Our Lord Jesus said this by revelation just the way he told the woman of Samaria he met in the well her past.

Even if you insist it's a parable, it doesn't change the message. It still proves that lost souls will go to hell. You don't tell parables with things that are not real. All the parables of Jesus are illustrated with realities.

Besides, there are many other Scriptures that supports the existence of a burning hell. Scriptures must not be interpreted in isolation.

Please, give your life to Jesus if you haven't done so. Hell is real. You have been warned. The torment there is unbearable. God doesn't send people to hell. Your decision does.

samuelson06:
I'm not against blood transfusion in its entirety but I'm only calling for caution. Health practitioners should seek the consent of the patient directly or indirectly except in rare cases as this.

I understand all you guys have said. However, I'll still seek more clarifications on transfer of characters or genetic characters that may be on the blood.

Thanks so much for the enlightenment. We learn everyday.

Amotolongbo:
http://community.thenationonlineng.net/forum/man-to-sue-hospital-over-blood-transfusion-says-it-s-against-his-?xg_source=twitter

Emusan:
The accolade and lying liar JWs is here!

Never receive sense to contribute meaningfully on a thread but always spewing thrashes up and down.

Read my post and read your comment to see whether they correlate.

Mr LIENUS
WAYO man, exponent of Jesus all knowing Fraud
.
John 16:30-32, Jesus knowing the thoughts of his disciples, not proof he knows of the event in Matthew 24:36
Please don't stop embarrassing yourself

Emusan:
The accolade and lying liar JWs is here!

Never receive sense to contribute meaningfully on a thread but always spewing thrashes up and down.

Read my post and read your comment to see whether they correlate.

achorladey:
Rephrase........


Bros, that's the aftereffects of anti CHRISTENDOM aka (OTHER CHURCHES or FALSE WORSHIPPERS or FALSE RELIGON) syndrome plaguing the Janosky since 19gbidigbidi

When someone sane including its SANE "JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION" voluntarily cut off ties with BABYLON the GREAT that he cherish so much before and GAVE BIRTH to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION, he and JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION will just jejely continue moving on to wherever his ship sails.... But not the "Janosky" and its barking like a Rottweiler.
Bros, when a Rottweiler barks non stop, you know say water done pass garri

solite3:
Question: "Does Romans 2:7 teach works salvation?"

Answer: Romans 2:7 states, “To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.” Taken alone, these words seem to indicate works are required for salvation and eternal life. However, examined within their larger context and alongside many other biblical passages, it becomes clear that salvation is solely a gift of God by grace through faith.

The conclusion of Paul’s arguments in Romans 2 focuses on a changed heart that leads to changed actions. Romans 2:28–29 emphasizes true, spiritual conversion: “A person is not a Jew who is one only outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God.” The believer is one whose heart has been “circumcised” by the Spirit; this person is right with God, whereas someone physically circumcised, according to “the written code,” may or may not be born again. The contrast is between the righteousness that comes by faith versus that which is sought through the Law. Romans 2:7 mentions the righteous acts that result from having a changed heart; our godly actions are evidence of our salvation, as James, John, and Peter also discuss in their letters.

Paul’s words in Romans 2:7 cannot be considered apart from what he writes elsewhere in the same letter. Paul pointedly defines salvation as a free gift: “This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. . . . All are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus” (Romans 3:22, 24). Later, he says, “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:23).

Romans 2:7 does not teach a works-based salvation. Such a “gospel” was anathema to Paul (see Galatians 1:6–9). In all his epistles, including Romans, Paul makes the case that salvation is not received by works that we do:

• “Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law” (Romans 3:20).

• “For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law” (Romans 3:28).

• “However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness” (Romans 4:5).

• “And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace” (Romans 11:6).

The repeated theme of Romans is salvation by God’s grace through faith. Paul’s other writings emphasize this theme as well. Ephesians 2:8–9 is a good example: “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast.” Other New Testament writers, and Jesus Himself, demonstrate that salvation is a gift of God and not something earned through our works (John 3:16–18; 6:28–29; 1 Peter 1:3–9; 1 John 3:1–5; 5:1–12).

The biblical message is clear: salvation is not by works but by God’s grace, and it is received through faith. [/b]Romans 2:7 does not teach salvation by works; rather, it sets up a contrast between those who are changed by God’s grace and live for Him and those who reject His salvation and truth (verse 8 ). In Romans 2:7, those who “by persisting in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality” are those who have genuinely trusted in Jesus Christ for salvation, by grace through faith.
gotquestion.org

Why "persisting in DOING Good"?
Continue deceiving yourselves

achorladey:
The way of God that surrounds CHRIST which Apollos knew before meeting Aquila and Priscilla and which Apollos was teaching ACCURATELY.

Maximus69: GB we trust to do justice

Achorladey: Part of the Justice GB does in explaining way of God more accurately is PUTTING FAITH in a VISIBLE organization for SALVATION. Was Apollos caught in such a teaching or were Aquila and Priscilla saying putting FAITH in a visible ORGANIZATION?

rottennaija:
Thanks. I appreciate your point. It's important. However, my interest is publicity, especially for people that don't know anything aside from what they are told. It's my experience.

Take for example in the video above, the man is clearly mocking others and spreading ignorance among members while trying to show some superior righteousness. His supporters or followers don't have about other groups and their practices (there are many religious groups) and even if among the 1000s of religious groups around the world, some forces their members to donate, it's not a reflection of all the others.

But his supporters are not made aware of these. They go about with the impression that the other groups forces their members and that's the ignorance they go about spreading. I'm speaking from experience and there are many other instances. Besides, this is a group that goes about spread falsehood about other religion and you will only know how ignorant they are when you asked them about a particular group, asking them to prove what they are saying.

In line with your second paragraph, I create publicity. Let them see what people that understand their rhetorics, slurs, innuendos, double talks etc writes about them.

Acehart:
You don’t have to challenge me. Be a gentleman.

Dtruthspeaker:
Very very bitter jw, full of suffering, sorrow and pain!

Using his fake book that they call Bible to advance their own self inflicted deceit and wishful hopes and thinkings

Now, here comes his legendary lashing out!

Acehart:
You seem bitter. The most pressing question on the Lord’s day will be: “are you saved?” Janoksy, are you saved? No man will be asked about his belief in the trinity or Unitarian nature of God! What are you bitter about?

Your belief and that of the gnostic and Islamist have an ‘amazing’ consanguinity; yet, no one makes it his calling and destiny to harangue the JW to the very ends of the earth.

I have not said so much about The Spirit yet you spite me; maybe it isn’t me you spite but Mr Solite. If so, then take your fight somewhere else.

Acehart:
John 17:1-2: Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You, even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He (Christ Jesus) may give eternal life.”

Greetings to you in Christ’s name. I have inserted (Christ Jesus) in the verses that preceded verse 3 for clarity sake. It’s quite easy to see from these verses that Christ Jesus has the following attributes:

1. He has the power to glorify the Father in proportion to that which the Father glorifies Him.
2. He has the power to give eternal life - His possession.

From the first point, The Son is a reflection of the Father; and the Father is the reflection of the Son. John 6:27 and 14:9 affirms this notion.

From point two, The Son gives (grants) eternal life. Here, Christ Jesus asserts that He has the power of eternal life in His possession; if this is anything to go by, then His granting the entry to Paradise to the criminal on the cross is not out of place. Apostle John in 1 John 1:2 calls Jesus “eternal life”. He agrees with Isaiah who spoke of Christ Jesus name as “Eternal Father”.

But we know that The Son is not The Father; neither is the Father the Son; Isaiah premonition seems to say that “The Eternal Son is the reflection of The Eternal Father”.

(4)
You seem to disapprove of the word “subsistence” when related to the union of personalities in the God(head): our minds are limited when trying to describe God in terms of human language: how does one refer to a person whose matter is ‘eternal’ a person. For many many years, people were taught that there are three states of matter - Solid, liquid and gas. Quite recently, a fourth state of matter has been discovered - plasma. Who knows what state of matter will be discovered in the next 500 years. We know that at different conditions, matter can metamorphose. Christ described in terms of matter is logical and seeing that the word “persons” can only be applied to ‘things’ that exist in solid form, describing Him or any member of God as “solid”, persons, is inappropriate.

John 20:17 Jesus said to her, "Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.'”

What is the meaning of the word “God“? When Jesus used the word “grant” in regard to “eternal life”, He used an act associated with government or Organizations. In its original translation, Jesus used the word “endow” or “endowment”. Hence, Jesus gave the meaning of God as “government” or “Organisation”.

1 John 2:24: As for you, let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father.

It is a rule when reading the scriptures that when names are listed, the first name on the list is the character or object of concern; we know that the Father can never be relegated since Christ makes us view Himself as the primer in regards to righteousness, and the Father as the topcoat; we may never know why John places Christ Jesus before the Father in this verse.

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

You refuted the claim that Christ Jesus isn’t God; but I have placed the verse before all that John is saying that Christ is indeed the True God. If you don’t understand the verse, please do a revision of the function of punctuation marks- It will help greatly in your understanding of the scriptures.

According to Aceheart:"But we know that The Son is not The Father; neither is the Father the Son".

According to Aceheart:The word ‘person‘, when used on this subject, does not mean a separate individual,

jamesid29:
Great writeup boss... it's simplicity in explaining such a complex topic is really outstanding.
I'm not sure about those particular OT passages at the end of the writeup though but all in all its a great writeup.
Thanks for sharing.

achorladey:
This is what one of your brother sorry friend said about the above

Well Jerusalem according to Jesus (God's only begotten Son) has been been condemned so Warwick is the place! wink

Emusan:
1)
Who are "THEY" that are making blunders?

Russell and his pagan team or people before him!

How come Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ came in 1914 but the wrong teaching still continue till 1950's?

Are you staying Holy Spirit together with Jesus didn't know what they are doing?
2)
Who inspired that:
1. Jesus is angel Michael?
2. Jesus isn't angel Michael?
3. Jesus is angel Michael again?

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*3)
Bonus point

So Jesus came down and nobody saw Him?

The Bible must be lying when it says:

[b]Acts 1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.[/b]

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But you just said nobody will condemn the disciples of John for dying with John teachings.

Is it not the same Holy Spirit you said teaches Russell and his pagan team for wrong teaching.



So a pagan worshippers RUSSELL and his team will be part of the heavenly chosen.

That's wonderful!

Everyone can see that, you're still justifying the unjustifiable thing by smuggled RUSSELL into the chosen one when many people also baptized in the name of the Father, son and Holy spirit before Russell even born.

jibovico:
Personally, I see nothing wrong in this statement. It is same as saying I don't beg/solicit for your money but I need it. Therefore it is your choice to give me or not. If you give me fine I'll use it judiciously and if you choose not to fine I'll still enjoy myself. Please stop creating skimishes where there is none just for your selfish gain or you don't understand the statement.

Emusan:
Very pathetic!

Notice this!

RUSSELL and his pagan team claimed God's inspiration for their works.

If God truly inspired them, then their teaching must be true and remain true.

If God didn't inspire them, their teachings will surely go against the scripture.

So for Russell and his team to worship Christ till they died without correction from God means God is pleased with their teachings (if even God actually inspired them).

But the deluded JWs wants us to accept these fact:

1. Russell died worshipping Christ
2. Russell died believing Jesus died on the Cross
3. Russell champion "Herald of Jesus Christ" e.t.c

But Russell and his team will still be part of chosen one when many people who hold this type of teaching will not be resurrected back to life talk less of being part of heavenly ones.

His god must be a partial one, not the impartial God describe by the Holy scripture.

Emusan:
He's looking for excuse to distract us from the main point again.





Why must there need for Jesus TO COME and change their mentality?

Simply because Jesus didn't want them to die in their wrong thought.

But why did the same Jesus allow Russel and his pagan team died in wrong belief? Is still a mystery question anyone of you can't answer.




So where did Russell and his pagan team learn new things from?




Learning new things don't negate THE TRUTH



So you mean the gradual revelation of truth by Jesus is to tell Russell that He is God and Russell and his pagan team should worship Him, then later reveal that worshipping of Him is wrong.

Or using Cross was right and later reveal that it was wrong.

Or He is Micheal but later I'm not Michael then later again I'm Michael

A lying organization whose Satan is their founder.

achorladey:
changing WHOM to WHERE anyone not familiar with that Scripture no go get the SAKAMAJE. That is why anyone that leaves the ORGANIZATION is told you have LEFT GOD. because God is HOUSED and dwells in WARWICK

You will see him comeback and quote John 4:20 Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”

21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem

Emusan:
The accolade lying liar JWs

Here from the horse mouth itself

"If we are following a man undoubtedly it will be different with us; undoubtedly one human idea would contradict another and that which was light one or two or six years ago would be regarded as DARKNESS now:..."

But is actually happening today

What Russell and his pagan team considered LIGHT many years ago are now considered DARKNESS today, which means it was just man made doctrines as rightly said by the writer.

Buliwyf:
Like you guys are weeping in Russia? I doubt you know what sounding like a broken record means.

Buliwyf:
Dude. You are actually far more reasonable that most of your brothers here so I will give you a measured reply. If we go by your definition of a "global family by faith", the
Muslims are bigger and better than you following that standard. And that's something you will never have too

Matthew 7:13-14, " Cramped is the narrow road leading into life " Only Jehovah's servants walk that road , no be rocket science.

solite3:
Halleluyah, the trinity is totally biblical but unfortunately many are holding the heresy of Unitarians.
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons.
If you believe Jesus is the same person as the father and the holy spirit, that is not trinity but a Unitarian heresy.

Unfortunately, Unitarians make a caricature of the bible indirectly.

Acehart:
The word ‘person‘, when used on this subject, does not mean a separate individual, but a distinct subsistence. It denotes a distinction in the divine Being [that is] real, but inexplicable
Culled from: https://chapellibrary.org:8443/pdf/books/tgodfg.pdf