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Janosky:
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There was no law from Yahweh prohibiting incest when Abraham married Sarah.
Eve is Adam's sister, so to speak. Cain married his sister until Yahweh gave His prohibition on incest.
The human family irrespective of race is indeed one family, you no know?

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John 7:5
” 5For even His own brothers did not believe in Him.

Mark 3:21
When His family heard about this, they went out to take custody of Him, saying, "He is out of His mind."

John 15:15, Matt10:34 Jesus adherence to his Father, Yahweh's teachings caused divisions in his family, likewise, he says that adherence to Jehovah's teachings would cause divisions and opposition from unbelieving family members.

Galatians 6:10 and John 13:34-35, real love and unity exists among Jehovah's servants.


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Proverbs 26:4, in other words, will you argue with a mad man?

Proverbs 26:5, compare Matt21:23-26.
Jesus Christ gave a fitting response to his accusers, because it was absolutely necessary.

In a nutshell, Circumstances & situations differ , but apply wisdom always.

jacoik:
If you are the type of person that reads the Bible occasionally, then you should have come across some verses which questions the authenticity of Christianity as a whole.

There are some portions which are so complicated to the extent that it is difficult to understand and interpret what is written. What makes it even more contradicting is the fact that different churches have their own versions of the Bible in which some text were either added, removed or rephrased.


We all know the goal is aimed at worshipping one God but, the issue of having different versions of the bible adds to the confusion, and brings up a question like, if these books were written by the same persons. Most of these contradicting statements can be mostly found in the old testament but, most people claim the laws of the old testament are no longer considered to be very important because most of the texts happened before the coming of the saviour. Still yet we forget that the method of the payment of tithe originated from the old testament.

Without saying much, let's look at the 10 Bible verses that will make you question the authenticity of Christianity.

1. The first book on this list is Exodus 20:13 according to the Good News version which says "Do not commit murder."

On the same book, Exodus 32:27 says "And he said to them, Thus said the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor."

2. Genesis 32:30 says "Jacob said, I have seen God face-to-face, and I am still alive; so he named the place Peniel."

But John 1:18 says “No one has ever seen God. The only Son, [b]who is the same as God [/b]and is at the Father's side, he has made him known."

3. Ephesians 2: 8-9 says "For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God."

James 2:24 says "You observe that a person is justified through actions and not through faith alone."

4. Romans 3:23 says "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God."

Job 1:1 says "There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was blameless and upright, and one that feared God, and turned away from evil."

5. Deuteronomy 27:22 says "Cursed is the one who lies with his sister, the daughter of his father or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen!’"

But according to Wikipedia, the Bible and other sources, Abraham and his sister Sarah were married and their marriage was blessed.

6. Matthew 10:34 says "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the world. No, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

John 16:33 says "I have told you this so that you will have peace by being united to me. The world will make you suffer. But be brave! I have defeated the world!"

7. Proverbs 26:4 says "Don't answer a fool according to his foolishness, or you will be just like him."

Proverbs 26:5 says "Answer a fool according to his foolishness, or he will think himself to be wise."

8. Genesis 17:10 says "Here is my covenant that you are to observe, between me and you and your descendants: Every male among you is to be circumcised.”

Galatians 5:2 says "Listen! I, Paul, am telling you that if you allow yourselves to be circumcised, the Messiah will be of no benefit to you.”

SonOfALion:
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Janosky:
Bros,if your claim is true, why would Trinitarian believers (called Sabellenians) remove the proof to support them beliefs?

Bros, your claim is FALSE


Would you erase any evidence that support your cause you are fighting for ?

SonOfALion:
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Anas09:
According to you God lied by saying these?
Psalms 24:1 The earth and everything on it, including its people, belong to the LORD. The world and its people belong to him.

1 Corinthians 10:26 The Scriptures say, “The earth and everything in it belong to the Lord.”


Did the Lord Jesus lie when he said this?

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Maximus, the Kingdom the Lord Jesus meant there has already come. It came on the day He was raised from the death. The Kingdom is the Church.
When He established that kingdom, he handed over the power which satan stole from Adam to His followers, the Christmas. And since then, we the Christians have been live in (daul parallel kimgdoms.
Jesus is the King of that Kingdom, the eternal High Priest.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Here is the Lord telling us about that dual kingdoms we as Christians will live in until he returns in person to rule for 1000yrs.

1 Corinthians 15:24-28 says no , Anas09 doesn't understand
If the kingdom of God is the church, according to Anas09, then Revelation 21:1-5 and 2 Peter 3:13 is not in Anas09 Bible

Anas09, why your church members dey kaput when Revelation 21:3-5 says such will not happen at all

Ana's reads but understands NOTHING

fortran12:
Translate what the original language says and you get your answer. If all the translations mean the same thing based on the context, do the words then matter?

The KJV version "bear record in heaven, the Father, the word and the holy ghost" is radically different from other Bible translations.
It is a FRAUD , the evidence abounds.

Bros Fortran, No dey DECEIVE yourself

Galactico4ever:
That tackle though poor,came in late.But VARchester are known for getting penalties,now 22 penalties in a season I think. PERnandes is a really good PK taker.

Kobojunkie:
We live as Jesus Christ lived..it is His example that His followers follow [/b]after all our ultimate goal is to become like Jesus Christ.
[b]So since He did not tithe and He never commanded it of us, it makes absolutely good sense not to.

achorladey:
Christ will not look for any GROUP


1 Corinthians 3:23 Christ belong to God.

Christ don't belong to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION

You will never see a scripture that states CHRIST BELONG to JEHOVAH'S ORGANIZATION. Na the GBEMU you dey drink

False claims.
Does Achorladey belong to his biological father ?
Is Achorladey a member of his Father's family?
Is his Father's family a Group?

MUMU KNOWMORES no know say family Na
Organization
Achorladey and KNOWMORE, continue to DECEIVE YOURSELVES & console YOURSELVES

delkuf:
Do how doesn't justify the Lord Jesus Christ as the same as the God.

KNOWMORE56:
Weather you like it or not you (JWs, Janosky, Maximus69) cannot stop Jesus from being the true God! He'll soon come and your GB will deny you, Revelation 22:20.

KNOWMORE56 problem is he know the Bible more than Jesus Christ

KNOWMORE56:
JESUS CHRIST is the true God

KNOWMORE56:
When the Bible says no man has seen the FATHER/ God. It means no man has seen God in His full glory.

This is why the Angels who are the closest to Him have their faces covered with feathers/wings.

*. Isaiah 6:2 "KJV:Above it stood the SERAPHIM'S: each one had six wings; WITH TWAIN HE COVERED HIS FACE, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.

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KJV:And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

*. Ezekiel 1: 23 "KJV:And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, WHICH COVERED on that side, THEIR BODIES.

Kei144:
Which commandment does paying tithe belong to?

alBHAGDADI:
Are you daft? You expect the creator to pay tithe? Do you know what it means to be a creator?

12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, [/b]and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God."

[b]AlBAGDADI , your "Creator" says himself is inferior to his God and Father in heaven and earth.
(Compare John 14:28 & John 20;17).

The comments on this thread is an indicator more people done shine their eyes, they can't fall for the tithes SCAM any longer
We can see your cherished feeding bottles alias tithes is seriously under threat.

Please continue to DECEIVE YOURSELF

alBHAGDADI:
You will be foolish to expect me to come with mild temper against someone trampling on my Father's laws and calling them a lie.

Stealing in the name of triune idols

alBHAGDADI:
Abel tithed, Abraham did and also Jacob. All those patriarch existed before Judaism came to play.

Maximus69:
Just ask politely my guy, Christians don't use derogatory statements simply because we want to make a point, we treat everyone with deep respect and mild temper! 1Peter 3:15

Jesus is our law now Sir, he didn't give us any written form of laws, he lived his own laws. Romans 10:2-4

God bless you!

Maximus69:
What i know is there is no sense in the theory of tormenting people alive for their past deeds, God said he hates such idea and it has never come into his heart! Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5

So instead of upsetting you, it's better you keep your beliefs and i'll keep mine! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

Csonice1:
The second death: the death of the final Judgement: is the lake of fire. Having a sorer(worse) punishment than death and hell. It's just like taking two countries (and their respective ambassadors/messengers/spirits) and throwing them into a continent: forever

achorladey:
I repeat Christ didn't ask anybody to be looking for a group that spring up in the late 19th century as his GROUP. There is no scripture you can quote to support that. [/b]Na the GBEMU you dey drink.

Where is CHRIST saying look for a 19 century group in the verse up there. GBEMU GBEMU.

You are free to exercise the option to DECEIVE YOURSELF
No wahala
Christ will not look for any other group because he belongs to Jehovah's Organization which has been in existence since Creation.
Jehovah's Witnesses= Jehovah's Servants.

FOLYKAZE:
What is the name of JW organisation? Show us evidences of charitable outreach by JW? I know about Mother Theresa in India,, tell us about any JW member in the whole world.

Your defence is full of clauses and loopholes wjich expose you are lying.

jmoore:
Tithe is for Judaism.

Tithe is not for Christians.

Alexgman1:
Can someone who rarely pay tithe because of one of two reasons or doesn't pay tithe at all through out his life make heaven if he/she dies or when rapture takes place?

Let the men of GOD in the house clear the air on this.

achorladey:
Maximus69: indirectly they're saying I don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself"

Achorladey: I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. 27 And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.

So now, little children, remain in union with him, so that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not shrink away from him in shame at his presence. 29 If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him

Hope you can see that Maximus69 aka Jehovah and Jesus who can erase people's past and present into the future .

Christ didn't ask anybody to be looking for a group that spring up in the late 19th century as his GROUP. There is no scripture you can quote to support that. [/b]Na the GBEMU you dey drink.

Christ promise to be with his disciples throughout the ages. Matthew 28: 20.

1 Corinthians 3:23 You belong to Christ, in turn Christ belongs to God"

Isaiah 43:10-12, Jehovah's Organization of His GENUINE Servants existed since the days of Creation.


If it's not Jehovah's Organization, Matthew23:10-11, who will Jesus lead?

Hebrews 13:17, if it's not Jehovah's Organization, whom will be appointed to minister to members of the Group?

achorladey:
Maximus69: indirectly they're saying I don't need anyone to teach me how to do the will of God, i know it myself"

Achorladey: I write you these things about those who are trying to mislead you. 27 And as for you, the anointing that you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to be teaching you; but the anointing from him is teaching you about all things and is true and is no lie. Just as it has taught you, remain in union with him.

So now, little children, remain in union with him, so that when he is made manifest we may have freeness of speech and not shrink away from him in shame at his presence. 29 If you know that he is righteous, you also know that everyone who practices righteousness has been born from him

Hope you can see that Maximus69 aka Jehovah and Jesus who can erase people's past and present into the future .

Christ didn't ask anybody to be looking for a group that spring up in the late 19th century as his GROUP. There is no scripture you can quote to support that. [/b]Na the GBEMU you dey drink.

Christ promise to be with his disciples throughout the ages. Matthew 28: 20.

Emusan:
Make me understand



Then who said, 1 John 2:23b and 1 John 5:6 contain Trinity doctrine?

Can you see that you're the very one who didn't understand anything from this thread




Read the lost you quoted again and stop talking nonsense.

Having seen textual variants of 1 John 5:6 the preceding verse before the COMMA in the early manuscripts, let's proceed to next one!

Let's turn to 1 John 2:23b, as it proves two things. First, it proves that a Trinitarian clause could be expunged from 1 John in the majority of manuscripts.

Second, it proves that the Vulgate can sometimes preserve authentic readings more accurately than can the majority of Greek manuscripts.

1 John 2:23 in the King James Bible says:

"Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [but] he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

"πας ο αρνουμενος τον υιον ουδε τον πατερα εχει ο ομολογων τον υιον και τον πατερα εχει" (Textus Receptus, Beza 1598)

The second clause of this Trinitarian verse is supported by the Vulgate, Sinaiticus, Vaticanus, Alexandrinus, Ephraemi, Porphyrianus and about 70 other Greek manuscripts (Novum Testamentum Graecum: Editio Critica Maior: IV Catholic Letters, Text, 2nd Ed. (Stuttgart: Deutsche Bibelgesellschaft, 2013), p. 292). Most modern translations (e.g. NIV, ESV, NASB) follow this reading.

But with there being about 517 extant Greek manuscripts of 1 John and with just over 70 manuscripts having 1 John 2:23b, the clause is a minority reading. Accordingly, the Byzantine Majority Text does not include the clause.

The Majority Text says:

"Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father."

"πας ο αρνουμενος τον υιον ουδε τον πατερα εχει" (Byzantine Majority Text)


The Geneva Bible in 1557 followed the majority of manuscripts here and left out the latter clause[b]. If a Trinitarian clause in 1 John 2:23 could be lost in the majority of Greek manuscripts, and the Vulgate can be more reliable here, it is not much of a stretch to believe that the Johannine COMMA was
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Emusan:
I've told you people several times that you should stop spamming my mention. Once you quote me, every knowledgeable person knows my post is being referenced except deluded JWs who must keep repeating my moniker here and there.