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nutarious:
You avoided many things, I will make you see them.

Can you explain Heb 1 vs 10? How come Jehovah called his creation Lord?

Then who said the Jews Lied, you or your scripture?

I have AVOIDED nothing, but you still resort to bring up Heb 1:10.
As usual the holy Scriptures will speak for itself....
**"* Heb1:10 is a repetition /quote of Psalms 102:25-27.
Let's begin from v24...
" So I said: do not take me ,away oh my God, in the midst of my days,your years go on through all generations.
v25 " In the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of your hand......"
The Psalms 102:25-27 & Heb 1:10-13 is a reference to Jehovah, the God of David and Father of Jesus.
In Matt 11:25 Jesus calls his Father "Lord of heaven and earth", further proof that Heb 1:10-13 refers to 'Jehovah.

**

shadeyinka:
Shameless people, if one of you didn't come online to be forming a non existent sinless perfection and the infallibility of your organisation, I wouldn't bring up the issue of Candace.

If your organisation is representing Jesus, it should do it in perfect holiness then we can follow them. If they can't keep the simplest of God's law: then those who follow them are IGNORANT

You're wrong, through and through.
Aside Jesus, no servant of Jehovah on earth is perfect.
No JW has ever said he's perfect, even though we firmly believe we're on the right track..
It's on record that we, JWs have said we're NOT infallible.
"Perfect holiness" ke ! hian!!! shuuooo !!!!

"perfect holiness" cum iniquity wey your popular born again sexual predator pastorpreneur dey build him scandalous reputation for messing up young ladies and women dey all over place (2 tim3:1-7).
As you and your crew dey claim born again "perfect holiness",none of una get "liver" give am public reprimand or even speak up against serial sexual predators and rapists hiding under the banner of "touch not my anointed" .
(1Cor5:1-13. Study am and receive sense).

OkCornel:
Tatime, Maximus69, janosky, shadeyinka,...

Has any of you read either of the following;

1) The Urantia Papers
2) The Ethiopian Coptic Bible (it has 88 books or so...compared to the 66 books Bible)

Definitely no.

Crysthaniel:
Brother.. no need to continue with this discussion.. itz just a waste of time.. you see you have been discussing these same topics all this year and no progress so far..
remember matt 11:13-14
its is Jehovah's own work he promised to speed it up in its own time
today whether satan or any of its organizations like it or not..
people are getting baptized as one of Jehovah's witnesses.... in fact @least 700 people perday world wide..


we and these new ones know Jehovah
love him, know jesus, love him, we are free from babylon the Great,

Thanks, my sister. Noted.

OkCornel:
Lol... the bolded reminds me of Salaam Alekum...
Not sure if I spelt that correctly...

"Shalom Aleichem" is Arabic equivalent of "Sallam aleykum".
Hebrew "EL" is God.
Hebrew and Arabic are similar in some ways.
Shalom.

johnw47:
it would not be good grammar for david to say: the Jehovah said to my Jehovah

david said: the Jehovah said to my Lord

and so Father Jehovah said to david's Lord Jesus Christ

Natural born LIAR,Lying johnw Pharisee....
*** * "That people may know that you whose name is Jehovah, you ALONE are the Most High over all the earth" Psalms 83:18.

*"You alone" indicates that ONLY ONE SPIRIT PERSON, the Father has the name 'Jehovah'.

*** Jesus is NOT Jehovah...
" .....You are to call his name Jesus... and will be called son of the Most High God" Luke1:32,33. Mark5:7.

"Only The Father of Jesus, whose name is Jehovah, is the Most High God.
Even though lying john pharisee is allergic to the truth, two spirit persons can not be "Most High".

shadeyinka:
I haven't directly read them but I know a little about each
1. The Urantia papers to me are just a bunch of pseudo Christian philosophy in the order of the Grail Message. I am not aware of they have a formal religious outfit/worship centers

2. The Ethiopian Coptic Bible contain ALL the mainstream bible books in addition to several others. It looks like they didn't discriminate over a purely religion history book or inspired book. The question of what make a book inspired and others not is beyond this medium. In other words all the library of "Religious books" are included in the Ethiopian Coptic Bible!

I agree with your submission. shalom Aleichem.

[quote author=nutarious post=79402107][/quote]Let the Bible respond to your screenshots 2.
John 5:18, "Jesus was calling God his Father" it's no crime.
But the Jews LIED "he was making himself equal to God."
*** John5:19 the son does, copies whatever his Father is doing. Son and Father are in agreement working together.

** ** Same for John14:10 "the words I say are not just my own". Because Jesus works to please his Father ,John 8:29.
If you claim the son is in the Father,therefore he is God.
Likewise, Jesus disciples are in the Father and Son. therefore, they're one God. John 17:21-23.

##### John14:9 "he that has seen me has seen the Father also" , Jesus is not saying he's God. Jesus explains what john14:9 means-

$$$ John12:44,45 " Jesus cried out: "..... when he looks at me, he sees the one who sent me"
Matt10:40 "He who receives you receives me ,and he who receives me receives the one who sent me".
****Matt10:40,John 12:44,45 & John5:37 explains John 14:9,its crystal clear.

** When you see and receives the messenger, you have seen and received the One who sent him.
Jesus is not the Father. Jesus said nobody has seen his Father's figure and heard his voice John5:37.

[quote author=nutarious post=79402107][/quote]Let the Bible respond to your screenshots.
Heb 1:8 God is your throne forever" ,( that's exact words of Psalms 45:6) because
Jesus sits on king David's throne Luke1:32.
The throne of David is the throne of God, 1Chro29:23. NWT is very correct.

### Heb 1:9, God anoints his son above his companions (angels) in the spiritual realm.
Psalms 110:1- sit at my right hand.

**** Heb1:10-13 refers to Jehovah God, the Lord of Heaven and Earth (Matt11:25),Gen1:1.

OLAADEGBU:
I am still waiting for you to provide evidence where the GS banned DL members from owning or watching television. It is either you supply the evidence or forever hold your peace.

Righteousness89 come & see your DLBC member lying on a public forum.... even when you disproof his lie. He called his lie "paradigm shift".

jesusjnr:
It's so ironic that of all the names in the world, it's a Pharisee that you would choose to call a true disciple of Jesus for calling out the hypocrisy and falsehood of Jehovah witnesses who come in the clothing of Jesus disciples but find it hard to acknowledge His as the Son of God that He is.

For just in case you forgot what the Pharisees are notorious for, let me refresh your memory a bit:

John 8:13, 58-59 (KJV)

13 The Pharisees therefore said unto him, Thou bearest record of thyself; thy record is not true.

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

John 10:30-31, 33, 36-39 (KJV)

30 I and my Father are one.
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
39 Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

So can you clearly see who among the both of us fits the description of a Pharisee?

For what Jehovah witnesses are doing today to Jesus is similar to what the Pharisees did to Jesus in those days, for if Jesus were here today and said "I and my Father are one" or "Before Abraham was, I am" etc., as we His disciples are saying concerning Him today, would you Jehovah witnesses not find it offensive as the Pharisees did?

So if anything, it's the Jehovah witnesses that are actually behaving as the Pharisees and worst still you are yet pretending to be Jesus disciples despite your obvious spite for Jesus being addressed as the Son of God that He was, by His true disciples.

For if not why would you prefer a translation or version of the Bible that addresses Him as a "servant of God" over that which addresses Him as the "Son of God" that He truly was?

So even the Pharisees may even be better than the Jehovah witnesses for at least they didn't pretend to be Jesus disciples or part of His church while not according Him the respect that was due Him.

For that's actually my grouse here, that you hypocritical Jehovah witnesses should stop pretending to be Jesus disciples and come as the modern day Pharisees that you truly are.

Your hypocrisy strong pass Zuma Rock.
It's confirmed that according to
Thayer's Greek Lexicon:
pais
1) a child, boy or girl
1a) infants, children
2) servant, slave
2a) an attendant, servant, spec. a king's
attendant, minister"

*** Jnr Pharisee ,Greek "Pais" meaning "Servant/Son", why is this truth so hard for you to accept and digest?

*** Jesus says he's a Servant, " My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me"(John 7:16), jnr Pharisee , why are you fighting against this truth in John7:16 while you claim to be Jesus disciple?

** I confidently and boldly assert that nobody on Religion thread has quoted or cited Matt16:13-17 more than I have done. (go and type Matt16:13-17 in NL search column), that's proof you LIED by your falsely claimed "obvious spite " for Jesus being addressed as son of God"

*** * You hypocrite speaking from both sides of your mouth, "Jesus is I am" & Jesus is son of God simultaneously.
So,your Almighty God is the son of his God..

OLAADEGBU:
We know why Jesus said the following:

"Give not that which is holy to the dogs, neither cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." -- Matthew 7:6

Jesus Christ is speaking against lying Pharisees like OLAADEGBU who rejected the biblical truth that "Jesus existed before Abraham was born".
Shame on you.

OLAADEGBU:
I neither want to waste my time teaching you nor do I want to get you annoyed.

Kikikikikikiki..... I dey laf....
I refuse to be spoon fed with your kumuyi junk ,oh ye lying Pharisee.

The Twentieth Century New Testament
(TCNT) supervised by J. Rendel Harris
and Richard Francis Weymouth (Britain,
1900). "I have existed before Abraham
was born"
***James Moffatt, The Bible A New
Translation (New York, 1935). "I am here
– and I was before Abraham!"

*****J. M. P. Smith and E. J. Goodspeed An
American Translation (1935) "I existed
before Abraham was born!"

***** The New World Translation (1950, 1984)
"before Abraham came to be, I have
been."; (2013) "From before Abraham
was, I have been"

### J. A. Kleist S.J. and J. L. Lilly C.M.,
Roman Catholic - The New Testament
(Milwaukee, 1956). "I was before
Abraham"

***** William F. Beck , Lutheran - The New
Testament in the Language of Today (St.
Louis, 1963). "I was in existence before
Abraham was ever born"

**##* Kenneth N. Taylor, The Living Bible
(Wheaton, 1979). "I was in existence
before Abraham was ever born!"

#$## The poet Richard Lattimore , The Four
Gospels and the Revelation (New York,
1979). "I existed before Abraham was
born"
ed. Stanley L. Morris, The Simple English
Bible (1981) "I was alive before Abraham
was born"
C. B. Williams , The New Testament in the
Language of the People (Nashville, 1986).

Many Trinity believing Translators are not afraid to boldly state the truth " Jesus says he existed before Abraham was born".

OLAADEGBU:
This is why I should have taken to the advice of John Paul Getty who said "Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig."  No be me talk am o!

This educated illiterate is just being daft. Greek " I am" (meaning "I existed" is NOT the Hebrew language "I am', oh ye lying Pharisee.
If you get human brain you no go confuse Greek "Ego eimi" and Hebrew "ehyeh",their differences is clearer than night and day.

nutarious:
He has been unmasked.......
Totally unmasked.......
And what's revealed is ugly, very ugly.

shadeyinka :
Can you see how you have dodged the
issue of what you did to Candice
Conti? And you come here on NL
forming a non existent HOLINESS!
I know you will avoid it again:
hypocrite![/quote]The news dailies are awash with serial "born again" sexual predators and molesters alias pastorpreneurs whom shadeyinka knows and have heard about.
All of una dey hide under "touch not my anointed" scam to commit iniquity everywhere.
** That popular Abuja pastorpreneur who messed up the Ese lady has not fulfilled his "robust reply" falsehood.
The scandals still trailing him even now...
Go reprimand born again Pharisee to clean up his stinking mess before you fit see speck for JW matter.
The Candace matter happened when the Law was inadequate to address such issues about at the time and JWs have zero tolerance for it.

The monetary gain and Press sensational reports are major factors, not the actual truth in the law courts.

nutarious:
Incase I didn't come online for days, My Answer would be Mr A, father a child both in A, B, C. So Mr A can't actually be divided and said like this,

Oh, Mr A' s Spirit is the only part of Mr A that father child C, thereby leaving Mr A soul and body.

Same way you can't seprate God, the beauty of Trinity is God is one.



Lastly the JW changed Hebrew 1 vs 8,but forgot to change the Lordship of Jesus in Hebrew 1 vs 10.

According to JW, Jehovah is God and created Jesus, but this Jehovah is also calling His creation his Lord?

Your own scripture is inconsistent with what you are taught, how can Jesus that u said is like Michael a creation be called Lord by Jehovah. Haba!

Also can somebody explain among you guys how come David knew this Lord, your interpretation change the scripture here too but its too clear that David worship a deity that he knows experiencially.

Trinity worshipper, the Nutarious notorious liar.

Jehovah's abode is in heaven where only spirits reside. Psalms 11:4.
Soul is flesh and blood, oh lying Pharisee.

** The God of Jesus anointed Jesus ,Heb1:10, Notorious liar say God dey anoint himself.
"God is your throne forever" says Psalms 45:6( RSV, JB, NWT) and Heb1:8 quoted from Psalms 45:6., the repetition MUST NOT change in Heb1:8.
You are here promoting a popular Fraud.
In Psalms 110:1 " Jehovah said to my Lord " is David's expression .
Nutarious notorious Pharisee turning Psalms 110:1 upside down ...

johnw47:
from a christian website


JW’s on JESUS

Jesus is a created being, thus making Him a ‘son’ of God. He is the highest ranking angel: the archangel, Michael. He is and always has been submissive to the father they are in no way equal. He was not an incarnation of God, but merely a perfect man. (NOTE: The WT claims that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not equal to God in an attempt to destroy the Trinity doctrine.)


TRUTH:

* Heb. 1:5— “To which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son’?”

* Dan. 10:13 indicates that there is a class of arch-angels and Michael is one of them.

* Phil. 2: 5-11 Jesus divested Himself of His glory to take on the cloak of humanity. (ASK: Does v. 9-11 mean that His name is above Jehovah’s name, or that He’s Deity?)

* Col. 1:15-20 Jesus is before ALL things. (NOTE: The NWT inserts the word “other” 5 times in this passage: “all other things”) to strip Him of His role as the Creator.

v. 19—the fullness of God dwelled in Him. * NOTE: “Firstborn” (v 15) means supremacy or pre-eminence (in v. 19).

Mumu Pharisee johnw trinity worshipper .
Jesus says "the Father is greater than I", John14:28.

** "The Head of Christ is God.1Cor11:3.
Jesus is before all OTHER things because his God and Father, Jehovah is the Head, greater & Superior above Jesus.

shadeyinka:
I said your argument is that God is like a CEO who presided over the creation through Jesus Christ. And I said, this argument is plausible!
HOWEVER,
We have Quotes attributed to God Himself AND the power released as a result of God's words of command.

Gen 1:3:
"And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."

Gen 1:6:
"And God said, Let there be a firmament in the middle of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters."

Gen 1:9:
"And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together to one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so."

Gen 1:11:
"And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, on the earth: and it was so."

Gen 1:14:
"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:"

Gen 1:20:
"And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven."

Gen 1:24:
"And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so."

Whatever the argument you intend to use must also apply to the Scriptures below

Gen 1:28:
"And God blessed them , and God said to them , Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."

[b]Gen 1:29:

[b]Gen 3:9:
"
[b]Gen 6:13:

[b]Gen 9:12:


Did God use an intermediary to speak to man?
Mind you, we are still in Genesis: the creation narrative.


Please, I will prefer that we study the Scriptures above rather than digressing with other relevant or irrelevant Scriptures. Thanks

Gen3:9. 6:13. 9:12 are not direct references to creation or how the creating took place.

***https://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/proverbs/8.htm

22 "Lord Jehovah created* me at the
beginning of his creation and from before
all of his works". *

26 Before he would make the Earth and the
floods and the beginning of the dust of the
world
27 When the Heavens were established, I
was with him, and when he made a circle
over the face of the depths.
28 And when he empowered the clouds from
above and when he strengthened the
springs of the depths,
29 When he set the law of the Sea and the
waters would not disobey his mouth, when
he made the foundations of the Earth,
30 I was fashioning with him; he was
rejoicing in me everyday, and I have been
rejoicing before him always."

Proverbs 8:22,26-30 corroborates the Genesis account of " Jehovah God said ...."
** Prov8:22 " Lord Jehovah created me at the beginning of creation "
v26 ,27 Before he ("God said let there be" made the Heaven, I was with him"
v30 "I was fashioning with him ( or "I was the craftsman at his side", compare , "Let us make man" Gen1:26).
Yes, Genesis says "Jehovah God said..." , in 1:26, God speaking to some one..,his son was there....

***## The million dollar question is: according to Gen1:26 ,(corroborates Prov8:22,26-30. John1:3,10. 1Cor8:6. Heb1:2. Col 1:16 " through him God made the world (universe)" ,do you Shadeyinka believe it?

**Jesus,God's first son, was present during the period of Gen1:1-26, when "God said ...".
Do you agree ?

jesusjnr:
It seems you Jehovah witnesses cannot see the extent of your desperation to reduce the Person of Jesus to a servant of God, despite that He was the Son of God, for that's the only reason why you'd go for a translation or version of the Bible that would call Him a "servant of God" instead the "Son of God".

For imagine trying to pin this on Peter a disciple of Jesus who even called the "Son of God" prior to His death, and after His death and resurrection started calling Him servant, Lol!

And you say that I've been humbled in the face of core evidence?

I would help you translate for I think you actually mean core deception, for that's one of the reasons I love the King James version of the Bible, for it has made it impossible for the efforts of your deceptive likes to alter the Truth of the Bible and turn it into your lies.

And here are some of such hard Truths from Peter a true disciple of Jesus for your deluded mind to chew if you could swallow:

Matthew 16:16 (KJV) And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

Acts 3:13 (KJV)

The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

Acts 3:26 (KJV) Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Maybe you can translate all the "Son of God" that Peter said here into "servant of God" with your lying and fake translation.

I wish you good luck with that because you're gonna need plenty of it.

Greek/Hebrew Definitions
Strong's #3816: pais (pronounced
paheece)
perhaps from 3817; a boy (as often
beaten with impunity), or (by analogy),
a girl, and (genitive case) a child;
specially, a slave or servant (especially
a minister to a king; and by eminence
to God):--child, maid(-en), (man)
servant, son, young man.
Thayer's Greek Lexicon:
pais
1) a child, boy or girl
1a) infants, children
2) servant, slave
2a) an attendant, servant, spec. a king's attendant, minister"
Source: https://bibletools.org

**jesusjnr lying Pharisee, Greek "Pais" means 'servant' or son'.


#Your pride and falsehood won't allow you admit that Jesus Christ is a servant of Jehovah, his God and Father (Rev3:5,21).
In Acts 3:13,26, "Pais" is Servant/Son.
Jesus is Jehovah's messenger (John8:29, 7:16) , oh jnr pharisee.

***https://biblehub.com/Matthew/16-16.htm
Lexicon

the
ὁ (ho)
Article - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite
article. Including the feminine he, and the
neuter to in all their inflections; the definite
article; the.
Son
Υἱὸς (Huios)
Noun - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 5207: A son, descendent.
Apparently a primary word; a 'son', used
very widely of immediate, remote or
figuratively, kinship.
of
τοῦ (tou)
Article - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite
article. Including the feminine he, and the
neuter to in all their inflections; the definite
article; the.
the
τοῦ (tou)
Article - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite
article. Including the feminine he, and the
neuter to in all their inflections; the definite
article; the.
living
ζῶντος (zōntos)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Genitive
Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 2198: To live, be alive. A
primary verb; to live.
God.”
Θεοῦ (Theou)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 2316: A deity, especially the
supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate;"

##jnr pharisee, carry your mumu and wayo lie lie put for dustbin.

OLAADEGBU:
Yes. Read your Bible.

"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto Him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at Him: but Jesus hid Himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by" (John 8:56-59).

He said that I am not I was, but "Before Abraham was (born), I am; thus declaring that He (Jesus) is the eternally existent One, the Creator and Sustainer of all things.

On the basis of your claims in John8:58,.., but
Na who do you this thing?
* Gen22:11 ,Abraham said 'I am', NOT 'I was', therefore Abraham is God.

,** *Exodus3:4 "Moses said 'I am', NOT 'I was', therefore, Moses is God .

**** John 9:9 "The beggar said 'I am', NOT 'I was', therefore, the beggar is God.

Dey there dey deceive yourself.

johnw47:
oh duh cannot stop lying false accuser like your daddy, Janosky/OneJ

nwt leaves out "and the Lord Jesus Christ" from col 1:12 and also nwt leaves out "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last" from rev 1:11

Janosky:
oh lying Johnw Pharisee ,lying is your nature. No iota of truth in you. **** https://biblehub.com/colossians/1-2.htm
From God our Father. Among the apostle's salutations this alone fails to add "and from our Lord Jesus Christ" - a defect which copyists were tempted to remedy. " *** lying Johnw Pharisee, Colossians 1:2 "From God our Father". That's the genuine, authentic translation.
https://biblehub.com/revelation/1-11.htm **** Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers (11) I am Alpha and Omega.--In this verse we pass from St. John to Him who was the Word, of whom St. John gave testimony. He who is the faithful witness now speaks. "What thou seest, write," &c. The previous words, "I am Alpha," &c., are not found in the best MSS. The words "which are in Asia," are also omitted.
Pulpit Commentary ***** Verse 11. - On ample evidence ( א , A, C, and all versions), "I am Alpha ... the Last; and" must be omitted; also "which are in Asia."
Shameless ,lying Johnw Pharisee ..

johnw47 your LIES are top notch ,shame on you !!

Samunique:
Hmmm beautiful !!!

God Bless you !!!

Love the scriptures !!!

1 John 5:9-12 KJV
If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. [10] He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. [11] And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. [12] He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Maximus69 what do have to say about this scriptures ?

Jehovah has given the witness that Jesus is His son,( 1John5:9-12) but these lying Pharisees wey dey NL dey reject Jehovah's testimony and them LIE that "Jesus is Jehovah" , na them dey quote scripture wey condemn their LIE,LIE ..
Lying Pharisees, Trinity worshippers,you guys are very shameless ...
kikikikikiki (laughing out loud).

Samunique:
I can see you're a cunning serpent , u are here to please your master not God. Pls continue to preach your denomination while painting others black.

But let me ask u, what is the gospel ?

Jesus himself , the spokesman for his Father, Jehovah ,has exposed your LIES...
Jesus speaks to you:
**" I have come in my Father's name and you (Samunique) do not accept me" John 5:43

"We must do the work of Him that sent me"
John 9:4.

*** "Jesus travelled about from one town and village to another, preaching the good news of the kingdom of God. The Twelve were with him" Luke 8:1.

***"And the gospel must first be preached to all nations" Mark13:10.

****"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony (witness) to all nations,and then the end will come" Matt24:14.

** Samunique, the words of Jesus Christ wey you refused to accept dey torment you.
As ee dey pain you so, go tear all those words of Jesus comot from your Bible...
Lol .

johnw47:
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Watchtower: FALSE DOCTRINES

The Watch Tower is dangerous in that it claims to be Christian. It purposely at the top deceives the people through classic cult mind control. It lies about it’s past false prophecies, it lies about God’s word in it’s pitiful New World Translation no Greek scholar ever confirmed, and most of all it lies about the very nature of Jesus Christ.

God’s Name
WT: Jehovah is God’s true name. Superstitious Jewish Scribes removed it from the Bible, but our New World Translation faithfully restored it to the OT & inserted it in the NT where it made sense to do so. using Jehovah’s name is essential to salvation (Rom. 10:13 NWT).

OT Scribes used the Hebrew consonants YHVH. Later these were combined with the vowels from “Adonai” (Lord). The result was “Yahovah”, later translated “Jehovah”—A Man-Made Term! As the word has Hebrew origins, it cannot be forced into the Greek NT. In all of the Greek manuscripts we have, “Kurios” (Lord) or “Theos” (God) is used, Never Jehovah—not even when quoting the OT!

* NOTE: It is not the use of the name itself that is problematic, but how the WT uses it to skew theology!

to be continued

Ehn !... Continue oh lying pharisee to plagiarise and copy thief another man's published work....
Shameless crook .

*** Jehovah is NEVER a combination of the vowels in "Adonai", stop lying.


** Matt4:7-10, Aramaic Bible...
Yeshua said to him, "Again it is written:
'You shall not tempt THE LORD JEHOVAH
your God.' "
8 Again The Devil brought him to a very
high mountain, and he showed him all the
Kingdoms of the world and their glory.
9 And he said to him, "All these things I will
give to you if you will fall down to worship
me." 10 Then Yeshua said to him, "Depart
Satan, for it is written: 'You shall worship
THE LORD JEHOVAH your God and him
alone shall you serve.' "

** Matt4:7,10 is a quote of Deut6:13,16.
"As the word has Hebrew origins, it can not be forced into Greek " lying Pharisee Johnw.
So, Johnw ,a writer who quotes your book you wrote should remove your name from the quotation because it's not in his language .
Johnw copy copy thief thief plagiarist, stealing some else published work with any credit to the author(s).
Kai !!!!!!
That is how extremely low, lying Johnw stoops because the truth is NOT in him at all !!!!!

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johnw47:
know nothing Janosky/OneJ, truly the verses are concerning eating animal blood
eating human blood was not a practise as need to be spoken off

Shut up, you lying Pharisee!
Cannibalism and human sacrifice to idols were age long practices. You deceive yourself

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johnw47:
Col 1:2  To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

false jw's completely removed "and the Lord Jesus Christ" from your false nwt

Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

you false jw's completely removed "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last" from your false nwt

oh lying Johnw Pharisee ,lying is your nature. No iota of truth in you.
**** https://biblehub.com/colossians/1-2.htm

From God our Father. Among the apostle's
salutations this alone fails to add "and from
our Lord Jesus Christ" - a defect which
copyists were tempted to remedy. "
*** lying Johnw Pharisee, Colossians 1:2 "From God our Father".
That's the genuine, authentic translation.

https://biblehub.com/revelation/1-11.htm
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Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(11) I am Alpha and Omega.--In this verse
we pass from St. John to Him who was the
Word, of whom St. John gave testimony. He
who is the faithful witness now speaks.
"What thou seest, write," &c. The previous
words, "I am Alpha," &c., are not found in the
best MSS. The words "which are in Asia,"
are also omitted.

Pulpit Commentary *****
Verse 11. - On ample evidence ( א , A, C, and
all versions), "I am Alpha ... the Last; and"
must be omitted; also "which are in Asia."

Shameless ,lying Johnw Pharisee ..

Samunique:
Jesus didn't send His disciples to go and witness for Jehovah His Father. Rather, He sent them to go and tell the world about the love of His father and what He has done to save them. John 3:13-21, Matt 28:18-19, Rom 5:8, 2Cor 5:91-21.

All I can understand from your numerous posts is that, your motive is wrong, you're just here to sell your JW, which you always refer to as perfect organization of God's people without the aim of preaching the gospel .

there's no where in the Bible where Jesus named His disciples ''Jehovah's witnesses.

For your information, ''Jehovah needs know further witness for His existence'' everything He's made is a witness to his existence .
Romans 1:19-20



Here's the gospel of Christ.................

John 3:16 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I want to respond to some points you raised...
** (1) Jesus and his disciples were witnesses for Jehovah. Luke 8:1. Matt9:34-36, so it was for this reason Jesus instructed them to beg the "Master of the harvest",his Father ,"to send out more workers" .
Jesus preached the good news of God's kingdom, "witnessing for his Father ,Jehovah (Mark1:14,15.) He commanded his disciples to preach the good news of God's kingdom (Matt24:14), proof you must witness for Jehovah as Jesus did.

2) Jesus is Jehovah's servant ,Acts3:13. Jehovah said his servants are Jehovah's witnesses (Isaiah 43:10-13).
"What I teach is not mine, says Jesus. (John7:16. John15:15). His disciples knew that they were witnesses of Jehovah (they were much more than witnesses for Jesus, Acts1: because Jesus is in agreement with his Father's message ( John12:44,45,49,50).
For instance , if I work for MTN and MTN gave me order to recruit you to work alongside me , are you an employee of MTN too?

***3) The good news of God's kingdom is not limited to John3:16, it's so much more than that.... (ask JWs in your neighborhood to explain from the Bible what it is intoto).

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we JWs love the only true God Jehovah, we are proudly JWs and cocksure of our faith in Jehovah and what we believe... no apologies.... Abeg ,take am like that.. no one can please everybody.
Peace.....

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus is Jehovah!

Lying is your unique talent.
Acts 3:13, John17:3 20:17. 5:37. Rev3:5, 1cor11:3. 15:24-27, you done tear am comot from your Bible?

OLAADEGBU:
The GS has been ministering on television since the 80's. People are just not educated enough to understand what he means by the term - 'Paradigm-Shift.'

Righteousness89:
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I was a Member of DLBC for over 20 Years.. DLBC has never said u should not Transmit blood...
don't spread lies...


The Only difference today is that of the Tv..

This OLAADEGBU na professional mind reader wey dey read kumuyi mind to see wetin kumuyi "paradigm shift" dey mean.

***** Lying "mind reader " Pharisee, you dey open new post/thread where,your DLBC member "for over 20 years" , Mr "Righteousness89" dey expose your "DLBC is not against watching TV" lie lie.
Congratulations !!!!!
Lol.
**cc:Righteousness89.

OLAADEGBU:
Jesus Christ is Jehovah. Hallelujah!

Apostle Paul says you're a LIAR in Acts9:17-20, 1Cor 11:3. 15:24-27. Jesus too concurs (John17:3. 20:17. 5:37. 6:46.Rev 3:5).