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johnw47:
once again, the Father is not the Son,


however Father and Son is God:



lying pharisee, post where i said mother mary born God, of course you cannot, oh tormented habitual liar



nwt is a fraud as is widely known, oh blinded and confused false jw Janosky /OneJ

your post is so so confused of course, with lies, of course
(Jesus to follow thomas)

** John 20:17, Rev3:5 Jesus says you lying by twisting John 20;28.

You called your self a LIAR, why? you said:
" once again,the Father is not son" , defeats your "I and Father is one" mumu LIES. It's equivalent to saying you and brocab is one.

Also,common sense should teach you that by your "Father and son is God" , you have scam yourself.
Show us where Jesus called himself 'Almighty God' you dey speak junk.

**- https://biblehub.com/text/psalms/45-6.htm
Hebrew text analysis
" Your throne is God forever and ever... ". Psalms 45:6

** Psalms 45:6 was quoted in Heb1:8, if your Bible translation says " Your throne is God forever and ever" that's very CORRECT! NWT is accurate.

Mr Lying Pharisee, "Your throne oh God" is a Fraud.

"The scriptures can not be broken'', says Jesus.

johnw47:
Joh 10:30  I and my Father are one. 
Joh 10:31  Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 
Joh 10:32  Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 
Joh 10:33  The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 

Mat 1:23  Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Lying Pharisee misquoted John 10:30" Jesus replied you in John 12:45 "whoever sees me sees also the One (My Father) who sent me".
Lying Pharisee says the Father is NOT Jesus dey misquote John 10:30. "One voice, Rom15:6, "One thought", Phil2:2,means agreement and unity.
John17:21,22 exposes your lies in John 10:30.

*--** John 10:32,36 Jesus called his God "my Father", v33 the Jews LIED that Jesus "makest thyself God".
** Matt1:23, this lying Pharisee says Mother Mary dey born God (alu melu).

*** John 20:17 refuted lying Pharisees claims of John 20:28. A slave never dictates for his Boss.
You no agree make your worker give you orders but you want Jesus to follow Thomas , you hypocrite !

*** Heb1:8 copied Psalms45:6.
"Your divine throne is forever" ( RSV), "God is your throne forever" (NWT, Jerusalem Bible etc) is the authentic rendition in old Testament Hebrew language of psalms 45:6.
"Your throne oh God" (KJV) is a fraud.

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johnw47:
oh poor little tormented false jw Janosky/Onej

John 10:34-36, Jehovah called men gods, Jesus was not just a man oh know nothing

truly oh know nothing of no understanding, the Lord and Saviour of the world Jesus Christ is God:

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

your churche's changing God's word to: and the Word was with God, and the Word was "a god"
of course doesn't make sense, if the first part said: and the Word was with "a god", then your twisted lie
would at least make sense: and the Word was with "a god", and the Word was "a god"

Lying Pharisee Johnw, Jesus called himself the son of God. The sons of God are gods, in heaven & earth.
John 10:34-36. 1Cor 8:5.
In heaven, Jesus called his God "My Father", proof he is still the son of God (Rev 3:5,12-14,21).
Johnw lying Pharisee blinded by falsehood, Jesus is a god in heaven and earth, "the scriptures can not be broken" saith Jesus, the son of Jehovah God.

johnw47:
no verses say Jesus is "a god"
in fact God's word shows that He is God:


of course Jesus worships His Father God, of duh again


yes, Father is also the God of thomas, duh duh duh:

Jesus is a god, John 10:34-36,
oh johnw lying Pharisee.


Your scrub brain stupidity knows no bounds,that is why you LIED "Jesus is God" is in your mumu brain, yet his Father God NEVER worship Jesus.
** Lying Pharisee "God" worships God ,for your mumu brain.

Na who corrupt your brain like this and remove your sense ?

johnw47:
you false jw's are polytheist, you believe in almighty God the father and mighty god jesus, two gods

Father Son and Holy Ghost is three persons in God, not three gods, laughing

Jehovah is 'EL' ( a mighty God) Psalms 50:1.

** Jesus is 'EL' (a mighty God) Isaiah 9:6).

****Man is 'EL' (a mighty God) Psalms 82:1,6

Johnw lying Pharisee blinded by falsehood .


** * God the Father, God the son and God the "holy" ghost, that's the 3 gods , Godhead of Trinity worshipped. by lying Pharisees everywhere pretending to be Christians.

***** Jesus NEVER called himself Almighty God because he is NOT .
John 20:17. Matt 16:13-17
Rev 3:5

johnw47:
lying pharisee false jw max

they are neither beautiful, nor would i take care of satans mob

look again at their faces, they do look like drag queens

i hear they are common in brazil

You're NOT sane!
Or you're hiding in the closet .
So, Johnw sees well dressed, pretty women who are JWs, but the only thought in Johnw mumu brain is 'drag queen'...
What a born again closet dude!
This lying Pharisee is not straight.... Oturugbeke !!!!!!!

johnw47:
Almighty God and Mighty God are names for the one true God, not the names of two gods like polytheist false jw's believe, Almighty God the Father and Mighty God Jesus, laugh

Jehovah is called Almighty God:
Gen_17:1 

Jehovah is called Mighty God:
Psa_50:1

John lying Pharisee, your mumu brain dey deceive you gaan..
Know it today, your god the father; god the son and god the ghost is polytheism.
Paste that fact into your mumu brain and super glue it there.

Jesus NEVER called himself Almighty God. You have no proof

johnw47:
Almighty God and Mighty God are names for the one true God, not the names of two gods like polytheist false jw's believe, Almighty God the Father and Mighty God Jesus, laugh

Jehovah is called Almighty God:
Gen_17:1 

Jehovah is called Mighty God:
Psa_50:1

John lying Pharisee, your mumu brain dey deceive you gaan..
Know it today, your god the father; god the son and god the ghost is polytheism.
Paste that fact into your mumu brain and super glue it there.

johnw47:
john and thomas both called Jesus, theos(God)

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God(theos).

Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God(theos)

Johnw lying Pharisee can't stop being foolish.
Jesus is a god (John 10:34-36) who worships his God (ho theos) on earth (John 20:17) and also worships his God (ho theos) in heaven (Rev 3:5,12-14,21).
The God of Jesus is also the God of Thomas.


Trinity worshipping Pharisees everywhere pretending to be Christians.

asalimpo:
i dont see how thinking person can read d scriptures yet land on the d conclusion that hell is the common grave. Here again, Jesus implies that hell is a punitive and exclusive destination. Add it with other verses where he warns - repeatedly (how manytimes in scripture does God/Jesus repeat a sentence in the same breadth?)- people to not end up there. This is Jesus,the Master talking. It takes a lot of daftness to nod to porous doctrines of this cult.

Poo from a lying Pharisee.
Hell was Jesus' punitive and exclusive destination for 3 days.
Jonah too was brought out of hell.
It takes a lot of daftness to feed on junk dished out by pastorpreneurs and daddy G.Os.

brocab:
{Joel 2:32, Romans 10:13 ASV} And everyone who calls on the "Name" of the Lord will be saved.
Janosky the scriptures tells us to call on the Lord-it doesn't say call upon the Father Jehovah, unless Jesus is Lord-the Father Jehovah! One name is called upon, not two names are called! "Jesus is the only way into heaven-but you don't believe in Heaven, so that wouldn't worry you"-the scripture gives us "One Lord and savour-not two Lords-Janosky thinks there is two gods to call upon?

Lying Pharisee blinded by falsehood and pastorpreneur junk.

Acts 2:21& ROM 10:13 were quotes from Joel 2:32.

"Call upon the name of Jehovah'", that's the authentic ,Original rendition of Joel2:32, Acts2:21,& Rom10:13

*** "Jesus said : I praise you Father ,Lord of heaven and earth" Matt11:25.
His Father,Jehovah is the Sovereign Lord over Jesus his son.
Jehovah made his son, Jesus lord and Christ.
**** Acts 2:36.

You made your son "Brocab" and you are still "Brocab", are you so scrub brained, you can't see the difference?

***** Lying brocab Pharisee, Jesus says your salvation is not solely dependent on him.
" This is LIFE ETERNAL;That they may know you, the only true God and Jesus whom you have sent"
John 17:3. John 12:44,45.

johnw47:
Father and Son is Jehovah-Lord God:

Father gave Lord Jesus Christ revelation, and Lord Jesus Christ sent it to john by His angel(the angel of the Lord):

Rev 1:1

Scrub brained Johnw lying Pharisee , "That men may know that you whose name is Jehovah, YOU ALONE are the Most High over all the earth" Psalms 83:18


YOU ALONE whose name is Jehovah..." that is NEVER a name the Almighty Father shares with his son.
*** This your falsehood has too loopholes. Abi, your LIES in your conveyor belt done dry up?

Kikikikikiki .

johnw47:
Father and Son is Jehovah-Lord God:

Father gave Lord Jesus Christ revelation, and Lord Jesus Christ sent it to john by His angel(the angel of the Lord):

Rev 1:1

Scrub brained Johnw lying Pharisee , "That men may know that you whose name is Jehovah, YOU ALONE are the Most High over all the earth" Psalms 83:18


YOU ALONE whose name is Jehovah..." that is NEVER a name the Almighty Father shares with his son.
*** This your falsehood has too loopholes. Abi, your LIES. conveyor belt done dry up?

johnw47:
the name Jehovah was once greatly revered by the so called jehovah's witnesses

but today you don't even care how Jehovah(YHWH) name is pronounced

You're NOT making any sense but you showcase your stupidity ranting up and down like rabid dog.
I** ** Give us the exact way that Jesus pronounced his Father's name; that's the ONLY PROOF that you're sane and not stupid.

brocab:
As long as you are happy to bow down to the unknowing god-then allow it to be-Jehovah god is Watchtowers true name..

Lying Pharisee brocab deceives himself.

" That men may know that you whose name is Jehovah, you ALONE are the Most High over all the earth" Psalms 83:18.

***-"Jesus said 'I praise you Father, Lord of heaven and earth because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned" such as brocab the lying Pharisee.
Matt 11:25.

OkCornel:
@Jozzy4 and @emusan

What's your take on these verses? Does it in anyway resolve what you've been talking about?

Psalms 110 v 1-4;

1 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

2 The Lord shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

4 The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

"(Psalm of David) Jehovah said unto my Lord," Sit at my right hand, until I put thine enemies as footstool of thy feet" Psalms 110:1, Darby Bible.

https://biblehub.com/nasb/psalms/110-1.htm
* Commentary

"Barnes Notes on the Bible" quoted there in was simply excellent !
Apostle Paul's 1Cor15:24-27 reference to Psalms 110:1 dealt a devastating blow to the Trinity scam.

Emusan:
Your lack of simple comprehension always makes you comment quickly and it only exposes your stupidity.

Make una come and see painment !
Edionwan wey dey do like sey he dey read Bible yet he no know say angels dey perfect and get freedom to chose to obey God or follow Satan..., na wetin him be?
Lying Pharisee !

OkCornel:
I don't agree with the bolded. Besides, do you believe the Bible (a collection of 66 books decided by the council of Nicea) is the COMPLETE WORD OF GOD?

Name the other "Word(s) of God not included or were left out of the Bible's 66 books.
Or you mean those 16th and 17th century Apocryphal books ?

solite3:
I know you cant comprehend it.

that is not what I meant by the laws of that governs the natural man.

For example a natural man cannot understand the things of the spirit but a spiritual man can. A natural man lives to perish but a spiritual man lives on.

You claimed you're NOT subject to the laws that govern natural man", now you're singing a different tune.

A spiritual man who understands things of the spirit is not subject to laws that govern natural man?
Solite3 solite3 Solite3 !!!!
Na how many times I call your NL name ?

Pls behave !!!!!

johnw47:
tormented false jw janosky

a habitual liar false accuser til the end, of course

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

[quote author=Janosky post=78759869]Lying Pharisees twisting and misquoting the holy scriptures.


Johnw doesn't even know Jesus or the God and Father of Jesus. John 20:17. John 17:3.

Johnw is a lying Pharisee....

** " The name of Jehovah is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it and is safe".
Proverbs 18:10 Darby Bible.

*** " And it shall come to pass that WHO SO EVER shall call on the name of Jehovah shall be delivered...". Joel2;32 ASV

*Joel2:32 was quoted in Roman 10:13) ****
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*-**- " For EVERY ONE who will call on the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved"
Roman 10:13 (Aramaic Bible).

The truth is out in the open- Johnw is a lying Pharisee.
C'est finis !
Talented LIAR exposed .
Your talent for lying makes Satan envious.

brocab:
Call out to Jehovah and nothing happens, call out to Jesus and you are saved.

Brocab doesn't even know Jesus or the God and Father of Jesus. John 20:17.
Brocab is a lying Pharisee....

** " The name of Jehovah is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it and is safe".
Proverbs 18:10 Darby Bible.

*** " And it shall come to pass that WHO SO EVER shall call on the name of Jehovah shall be delivered...". Joel2;32 ASV

*Joel2:32 was quoted in Roman 10:13) ****
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*-**- " For EVERY ONE who will call on the name of THE LORD JEHOVAH shall be saved"
Roman 10:13 (Aramaic Bible).

The truth is out in the open- brocab is a lying Pharisee.
C'est finis !
*cc : johnw lying Pharisee.
Talented LIARS exposed .

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johnw47:
oh duh lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

Jesus certinaly is the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, oh know nothing

Rev 1:17  And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last

Rev 2:8  And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Rev 22:12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 
Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Lying Pharisee is Jehovah the offspring of David ?
The one referred to as alpha and omega in v13 is the offspring of David in Rev 22:16, he is NOT Jehovah the Most High God but a son of the Most high God.
Luke 1:30-33.
Jesus in Matt 28:18 confirmed Rev 22:13 to be true. Jehovah gave his son authority to bear "alpha and omega"

brocab:
And when a JW is attacked by a demon-they call out Jehovah's name, and nothing happens..

Brocab lying Pharisee pretending to worship the God of Abraham Isaac, Jacob and Jesus (Acts 3:13) , he doesn't even trust.

The name of the God of Jesus, Abraham Isaac Jacob is a strong tower. Proverbs 18:10(ASV)
Jehovah is NOT the God of brocab lying Pharisees.

johnw47:
you say Jehovah is God’s true name
and you say using Jehovah’s name is essential to salvation
and you say Jesus MUST CALL HIS FATHER's NAME
and yet you also say you don't care how Jesus call-pronounced his Father name

Johnw Lying pharisees and educated illiterate, since you care how Jesus did it, pls tell us what "the spirit" your comforter revealed to you, the exact pronunciation Jesus called his Father's name.

[quote author=johnw47 post ]hebrews 1 is clearly about Jesus not being a angel

concerning verse 9, verse 9 doesn't say "Father exalted Jesus above other angels", oh liar liar

Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

Jesus fellows that he fellowshipped with is His apostles not angels, oh duh

Heb 2:16  For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

^^^ angels are not His fellows, but the seed of abraham-believing humans are


Jesus is God:
Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 

Jesus fellows can only be God(Father) who He is one with and christians who are one in Him[/quote]According to your FRAUD, Jesus is God because he is one with the Father , on that same reason, a Christian is God because he is one with the Father.
Fraudulent johnw lying Pharisee.

Moses was God to king pharaoh, by Jehovah's decree. Moses is not God, the Word was God, he is not God but a servant like Moses.
The Word ,Jesus is a servant of the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jakob and Moses. Acts 3:13.
Johnw lying Pharisee says "God" is a servant of himself.
Idiotic Pharisees.

***lying Johnw Pharisee, Jesus was exalted above angels right there in heaven where angels dwell. Heb1:1-6,13 says Jesus was exalted above angels to sit at God's right hand.
Lying Pharisee ,Jesus fellows ,peers, companions in the spirit realm are angels.
Stop lying and deceiving thyself.
* * Your Heb 2:16 quote is a FRAUD.
https://biblehub.com/hebrews/2-16.htm

"For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants"

Heb2:15,17 Jesus died& became " the high priest in service to God"
Johnw lying Pharisee says God died and became high priest in service of himself.
Kikikikikiki .....

OkCornel:
Lucifer was not an arch-angel before he fell? Seriously? So Lucifer could be the most beautiful thing God created and so close to God, but yet was never an arch-angel?

Gabriel also is not an arch-angel?

Archangel meaning chief or leader of angels.
Where is your proof from the holy scriptures that Gabriel or "Lucifer" led other angels ?

johnw47:
Rev 1:11  Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last

Lying Pharisee quoting a FRAUD inserted into the KJV.
"I am alpha and omega".....
"which are in Asia" are dubious insertions NOT found in the best manuscripts".
Source: Revelation 1:11 (biblehub)

https://biblehub.com/revelation/1-11.htm

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OkCornel:
I don't think the sly dig you made here is necessary.


Now let's face the reality on ground. Depression is real (and I believe JW members are not exempted as well). There are cases of believers (perhaps self professed believers) committing suicide...


My humble question is this, what is JW doing to counsel affected people out of depression? What are testimonies?

That's what I asked? Or do you only advise they endure?


I believe my questions are straight forward.

JWs are supportive of any JW who suffers depression. We collectively offer social/ emotional, spiritual and financially, if need be.
We encourage our members to seek professional/medicare too.
Pls visit jw.org, to see vast our publications or resource materials for helping depressed individuals.
Shalom