Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:42pm On May 25, 2019 |
solite3: Jesus was speaking about natural birth and spiritual birth. humans are flesh but when one is born of the spirit he becomes spirit in the sense that he is not subject to the prediction and laws of the natural man. Since you're "not subject to the laws of the natural man," does 'solite3' defecate excrement, bathe ,sleep, eat and drink, have sex with your wife ? You're not straight forward. You dey lie lie. kikikikikiki !!!!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:28am On May 25, 2019 |
OkCornel: What I find funny is this... if truly arch-angel Michael is Jesus;
1) Which of the Apostles had this revelation to document such in the scriptures? 2) Which of the Apostles or early church members heal the sick, raise the dead and cast out demons in the name of Michael? If they are truly one and the same person? Archangel meaning chief of angels or leader of angels 1.. Jesus is leading other angels ,even in battle. It is one and the same battle. Matt 24:30,31. Mark8:38 . 2Thes 1:6-8. 1thes4:16 Acts1:11, Rev1:6,7. Heb 1:1-6,9,13 His Father exalted Jesus above other angels, his peers (in verse 9). Q2: True Christians trust and obey with faith like Abraham. But do not go beyond what is written. Gal1:8 "There's no scriptural backing for his apostles to perform miracles or pray in the name of Michael. 2John1:9. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:48am On May 25, 2019 |
Emusan: So the angels you believe have sex with human in Noah's day were given permission by Jehovah 
So there was a time when angels don't need permission from Jehovah but can act on their own will Are you so daft ? With whose permission did an angel visit Gideon?Judges 6:11-22. With whose permission did Jesus come to the earth ? John 7:16. 3:16. When Jehovah sent an angel on any mission, that angel is carrying out Jehovah's will, an expressed order from God Almighty. ** Other wise, it's not Jehovah's will. Jude 1:6*** "the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but ABANDONED their own homes..." Angels are free moral agents too. They never sought Jehovah's permission to marry daughters of men. Jehovah FORBIDS it. Those rebellious angels knows that. They simply "ABANDONED" their duty post to commit iniquity. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 3:15am On May 25, 2019 |
brocab: {John 14:9} "Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us.” [color=#990000]Jesus replied, “Philip, I have been with you all this time, and still you do not know Me? Anyone who has seen Me has seen the Father. Brocab lying Pharisee, is Jesus Christ saying he is the Father? "Jesus answered: No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God, ONLY HE (Jesus) HAS SEEN THE FATHER" John 6:46. 5:37 Lying pharisee twisting the holy scriptures , " Jesus answered: what I teach is NOT my own. It comes from Him that sent me" John 7:16. Jesus confirmed he is his Father's messenger . *** When you sent your son to deliver a message to your employees, when your employees meets him& receives your message, whom have they received? " Jesus cried out: when a man believes in me..... when he looks at me, he sees the One who sent me" John 12:44,45. Matt 10:40. Jesus says brocab lying Pharisee do not believe the one who the Father has sent. You do not have the love of God in your hearts". John 5:38 42 Lying Pharisees with out sense and love for truth, una just dey deceive una selves. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 2:29am On May 25, 2019 |
brocab: [color=#000099]The JW's don't seem to have any understanding that concerns the Word of God, Ee done tayy wey you brocab pharidee dey LIE for this forum. You're just too good at show casing your talent. I'm NOT amazed. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 2:23am On May 25, 2019 |
johnw47: the name Jehovah was once greatly revered by the so called jehovah's witnesses and Jesus was no one but today you don't even care how Jehovah(YHWH) name is pronounced John lying Pharisee nobody knows the exact way Jesus pronounced his Father's name in Mark 12:29 , JWs do not bother that we don't how Jesus pronounced it, but we are very happy and proud that Jesus called his Father's name Janosky: Yes ! Jesus must call his Father's name in Matt 22:36,37 where he quoted Deu 6:5 (ASV,NWT). He also called his Father's name in Mark 12:29 where he quoted Deu6:4 (ASV,NWT) and in Mark 12:36 where he quoted psalms 110:1(ASV, NWT). Hallelujah !!!! johnw47 lying Pharisee brain dey reset small small.... Hallelujah ! Jehovah must be praised !! |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 2:07am On May 25, 2019 |
johnw47: WATCHTOWER: Jehovah is God’s true name. Superstitious Jewish Scribes removed it from the Bible, but our New World Translation faithfully restored it to the OT & inserted it in the NT where it made sense to do so. using Jehovah’s name is essential to salvation (Rom. 10:13 NWT). Yes ! Jesus must call his Father's name in Matt 22:36,37 where he quoted Deu 6:5 (ASV,NWT). He also called his Father's name in Mark 12:29 where he quoted Deu6:4 (ASV,NWT) and in Mark 12:36 where he quoted psalms 110:1(ASV, NWT). Hallelujah !!!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 2:06am On May 25, 2019 |
johnw47: WATCHTOWER: Jehovah is God’s true name. Superstitious Jewish Scribes removed it from the Bible, but our New World Translation faithfully restored it to the OT & inserted it in the NT where it made sense to do so. using Jehovah’s name is essential to salvation (Rom. 10:13 NWT). Yes ! Jesus must call his Father's name in Matt 22:36,37 where he quoted Deu 6:5 (ASV,NWT). He also called his Father's name in Mark 12:29 where he quoted Deu6:4 (ASV,NWT) and in Mark 12:36 where he quoted psalms 110:1(ASV, NWT). |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 1:53am On May 25, 2019 |
Janosky: Trinity poo fried beans with your brain sotayy "mixed languages" dey confuse your mumu brain. I reproduce here what I wrote which you been twisting because your mumu Pharisaic brain can't fathom what I'm actually saying.... "Jesus quoted in Matt 22;36,37 MUST CALL HIS FATHER'S NAME, whether he pronounced it as Yahweh, Jehovah or any other way unknown to us, who cares?"
** The point I made in that post is " Jesus MUST CALL HIS FATHER'S NAME" ,anytime he quoted from the Old Testament, and he did so ALWAYS. As at today, since we still don't know how he pronounced it- whether he pronounced it Yahweh, Jehovah or any other way unknown to us ,( "who cares?" or does it bother us how he did it ?
Johnw lying Pharisee and educated illiterate displaying his buffoonery. Jehovah is God’s true name..... using Jehovah’s name is essential to salvation[/b] (Rom. 10:13 NWT). Jesus MUST CALL HIS FATHER's NAME ! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 2:41am On May 24, 2019 |
Emusan: My post to your brother is about Col 1:16-17 which he agreed the word OTHER was added for emphasis.
It is so stupid to think JWs are the only one who have right to defend insertion into their translation and also hypocrisy to accuse someone of what you yourself is doing.
The other day, you said to promote Trinity the translator of KJV fraudulently inserted the word GOD in 1 Tim 3:16
Your reason: The word GOD doesn't appear in the original manuscript.
But when I pointed you to Acts 20:28 where your own organization inserted the word SON which doesn't appear in the original manuscript to promote their own devilish doctrine, your tune changed!
What did you do? You didn't see it as a fraudulent act and way of promoting watchtower doctrine but you were roaming about trying to justify why watchtower did so...which you couldn't do with the same KJV.....Hypocrite!
Since you agree with Greek grammar construct here
If you're such an honest being, kindly shows us how the Greek grammar construct justified OTHER in between ALL THINGS in Colossians 1
I know you'll begin to sing another song now. Emusan in sifia pains... Lying Pharisee wey no know say scriptures confirmed scriptures. Jesus said his God and Father did NOT come in the flesh , "The Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have NEVER heard his voice nor seen his form" John 5:37. Jesus words still refuted your God's own blood falsehood in Acts20:28. How can God shed his own blood since Jesus said his God and Father was never seen on earth ? Or you mean Jesus lied. Go throway your God was manifest in the flesh falsehood for dustbin. ** Jesus says his God and Father granted life to his son, Jesus. John 5:26. Jesus Father and God created the universe THROUGH the Word, his spokesman, Jesus. Heb1:1,2. "OTHER" emphasized what Jesus said in John 5:26 and Paul's account in Heb1:1,2 as AUTHENTIC FACT. Are you so daft ? How can the one his Father granted life be the Creator? Paste the words of Matt11;25,26 & Eph 3:14,15 into your brain. Else ,your mumu is incurable. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 7:38pm On May 23, 2019 |
Emusan: Do you now agree that NWT did the same thing you people are always accused other translations for?
That's the point....
But you will castigate others translations but trying to justify the reason why NWT did it and never the reason why other did it....
Hypocrite! Greek 'theou', 'theos', 'theon' meaning "Gods", "God", "god", "gods , lower case or upper case is not significant. I already know that Acts12:22 NWT, reads 'a god', I'm a Bible student, all JWs are. The reasons the Greek grammar construct justified "a" before 'theou' @ Acts12:22 is the same reasons John 1:1 MUST have "a" because Greek John 1:1b- 'the Word was with the God', shows that the Word is not the God, they are different beings. More so, Jesus says He is God's son and God's sons are gods. The son of God is a god. John 10:34-36. " The scriptures can not be broken" Lying Pharisee and hypocrites like Emusan and shadeyinka are too blind to see it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:42pm On May 23, 2019 |
Emusan: So to you adding the word OTHER in those verses didn't change the narration and the intended point of the original writer....
Wasn't the word OTHER added to place Jesus as second created being
If other translations do it, it's to support their false doctrine but if JWs does it, it's justified and right! Janosky: https://biblehub.com/text/acts/ 12-22.htm "And the people were crying out, Of (theou) a god (this is the) voice, and not of a man"
Mr man, explain to us why your KJV was never consistent in it's rendition of Greek 'theou' everywhere in your KJV Bible?
How did indefinite article ('a') find it's way into the KJV when it does not even exist in any koine Greek or Bible manuscript ?
Does not "a" change the narrative at Acts 12:22 whereas "a" was not placed before 'theou' elsewhere?
Isn't it sinister? cc: Emusan Oga Emusan , So, what's the intended point of adding the word "a" before 'theou' @ Acts12;22? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 4:30pm On May 23, 2019 |
shadeyinka5: You are still learning from your mentor Paul Joseph Goebbels !
Sinister! Doesn't "other" change the narrative? Why don't you use "other" in every other places at least we shall know that you are consistent! https://biblehub.com/text/acts/ 12-22.htm "And the people were crying out, Of (theou) a god (this is the) voice, and not of a man" Mr man, explain to us why your KJV was never consistent in it's rendition of Greek 'theou' everywhere in your KJV Bible? How did indefinite article ('a') find it's way into the KJV when it does not even exist in any koine Greek or Bible manuscript ? Does not "a" change the narrative at Acts 12:22 whereas "a" was not placed before 'theou' elsewhere? Isn't it sinister? cc: Emusan |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 3:42pm On May 23, 2019 |
shadeyinka: I hope you know that most old testament Prophecies are POETIC. Zechariah was delivering his message in poetic form.
Hence, you needn't change the original text from what it is saying to something else. Changing "on me" to "on him" is robbery!
The "Me" is the "Him"! If it was meant to be "on Him" why didn't the Hebrew writer put it in exactly the form you desire? Go and learn , rather than grasp straws, making baseless rants built on falsehood. " ON ME" in Hebrew, what is the meaning? https://biblehub.com/zechariah/12-10.htm*Lexicon " On me" - Strong's Hebrew413, meaning- "Near, With, Among, To" Look TO the one (Strong's Hebrew 843 " the one " meaning who, which, what, that, when, where, how, because)" they have pierced. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 2:54pm On May 23, 2019*. Modified: 3:25pm On May 23, 2019 |
shadeyinka5: For any organisation that wouldn't have shame to edit
Zech 12:10: "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
To read what they hoped it would be: they are ready to forge a lie and distort the word of truth! Shadeyinka 's baseless rants and LIES EXPOSED... Let's check out each Hebrew word for each English word meaning in Zech12:10. * Since Hebrew is the source language of Zech12:10, it's the Hebrew meaning that is Paramount. ** https://biblehub.com/zechariah/12-10.htmScroll down to "Lexicon" * * LEXICON " Then I will pour out (Strong's Hebrew8210 meaning- to spill forth, to expend) on ( Strong's Hebrew5921 meaning- above, over, upon, against) the house (Strong's Hebrew1004 meaning- a house) of David (Strong's Hebrew1732 meaning- perhaps beloved one, a son of Jesse) and on ( Strong's Hebrew5921meaning- above ,over, upon, against) the residents ( Strong's Hebrew3427 meaning- to sit down, to dwell, to settle , to marry) of Jerusalem ( Strong's Hebrew meaning- probably foundation of peace, capital city of Israel) a spirit ( Strong's Hebrew7307 meaning- wind, breath,exhalation, life, anger, unsubstantiality, a region of the sky,spirit) of grace (Strong's Hebrew2580 meaning- graciousness....) and prayer (Strong's Hebrew8469 meaning- supplication for favor) and they will look (Strong's Hebrew5027 meaning- to scan , look intently at, to regard) -ON ME, (Strong's Hebrew413 meaning- near, with, among, to ) -THE ONE (Strong's Hebrew meaning- who ,which, what, that, when, where, how ,because, in order that) -they have pierced. (Strong's Hebrew1856 meaning- to stab , to starve , to revile). They will mourn (Strong's Hebrew 5594 meaning- to tear the hair and beat the breast, to lament, to wail) for Him (Strong's Hebrew 5921 meaning- above over upon against) as one mourns (Strong's Hebrew 5594 meaning- to lament, to wail..) an only child (Strong's Hebrew3173 meaning- united, sole ,beloved, lonely, the life) and weep bitterly (Strong's Hebrew4843 meaning- to be, bitter) for him (Strong's Hebrew 5921 meaning- .. as one grieves (Strong's Hebrew 4843 meaning- to be, bitter) a firstborn (Strong's Hebrew1060- meaning- firstborn, chief). * Hebrew's "On Me" meaning Near, With, Among, TO. Therefore "look at the one", see the one" ( CEV, GNT, NWT & RSV ) are even more AUTHENTIC than the deceptive fraud of KJV. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 2:06pm On May 23, 2019 |
Barristter07: Which excuse ? Lol.
Go back and answer the question on KJV translation and let's see whose translation err . who was pierced ? Who was mourned ?
Sudden change from ME to HIM
Go and address it. I will expose his deceitful posts on Zechariah 12:10 for ALL to see. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 2:02pm On May 23, 2019 |
shadeyinka5: Of course the Jehovah's Witness Organisation is working hard to 1. Distort the word of truth by insertions and mistranslation 2. Leading simple men/women to the lake of fire. 3. Holding a form of Religion but denying the power therein Hogwash and baseless rants. Shadeyinka, you're just a lying ,deceitful Pharisee. I will present the hard evidence soon. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:25pm On May 22, 2019*. Modified: 10:41pm On May 22, 2019 |
shadeyinka5: For any organisation that wouldn't have shame to edit
Zech 12:10: "And I will pour on the house of David, and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look on me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
To read what they hoped it would be: they are ready to forge a lie and distort the word of truth! Ignorant rant of a lying Pharisee. RSV is a trinitarian Bible translation. Pls quote Zechariah 12:10(RSV) here for ALL to see. RSV ,BBE and many other trinitarian Bible translations refuted your falsehood. There is a problem with the poisonous, satanic doctrine called Trinity. Do a thorough research, you will discover that many trinitarian Bible translations are NOT in accord with with Bible verses you bring here to support your falsehood. Trinity adherents have diverse versions of the doctrine, which contradicts each other. That post you quoted Rev 21:24-27. vs24 &26 has fake additions in both of them. Do a thorough research, bro. Na fake additions in the KJV Bible you take dey support your falsehood. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:00pm On May 22, 2019 |
malvisguy212: Exodus 14:18-24 , “‘The Egyptians will know that I am the LORD when I gain glory through Pharaoh, his chariots and his horsemen.’ Then THE ANGEL OF GOD who had been traveling in front of Israel’s army, WITHDRAW and went behind them. THE PILLAR OF CLOUD also moved from in front and stood behind them, coming between the armies of Egypt and Israel. Throughout the night the cloud brought darkness to the one side and light to the other side; so neither went near the other all night long. Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and all that night the LORD drove the sea back with a strong east wind and turned it into dry land. The waters were divided, and the Israelites went through the sea on dry ground, with a wall of water on their right and on their left. The Egyptians pursued them, and all Pharaoh’s horses and chariots and horsemen followed them into the sea. During the last watch of the night the LORD LOOKED DOWN FROM THE PILLAR OF FIRE AND CLOUD at the Egyptian army and threw it into confusion.”
He appeared to Moses in the burning Bush as a flame of fire, in many place as Angel of the Lord and here, in this verses He appeared as a the pillar of fire and cloud. in our finite mind it hard for us to imagine God being able to do these things (be everywhere at once, know all things, manifest himself in fire and cloud etc.) but He is God we know that He can do it because we know His attribute in His word. God is not bound by finite limitations; he is not bound by time or space. He is three-in-one, he can manifest himself however he chooses; these are things finite humans cannot do and these are things that finite minds find difficult to understand. so I will not pretend I know but what I know is what God has reveal about Himself. thank you Pharisees dey confused and misinterpreted the scriptures. Jehovah is NOT an angel. Read Judges 6:11-23. receive sense. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 9:54pm On May 22, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: Why are you so afraid of answering the question that only requires one word answers?
Just type YES or NO. JWs have the holy spirit. Hence they bear the fruits of the holy spirit Galatians 5:22-25. Mango fruits can only come from mango tree. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 9:42pm On May 22, 2019 |
shadeyinka: The systematic brainwashing don't allow them to do any form of independent reasoning of the Scriptures unlike most of us Christians. There is nothing like personal conviction different from what the JW organisation believes.
If Jesus was truly an angel then the following Scriptures hold against him
Heb 1:5: "For to which of the angels said he at any time, You are my Son, this day have I begotten you? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"
Heb 1:13: "But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstoo?"
I pray God have mercy on those sincerely hoping for the TRUTH! Lying Pharisee displaying his buffoonery. Which apostle preached a doctrine or gospel contrary to what other apostles taught? Your so called. "Systematic brainwashing" was the norm of Jesus apostles rather than "independent reasoning" of Pharisees. Acts 15:1-30 ** Heb 1:5" which of the angels did God say :'You are my son?' Angels are always sons of God . Job1:6 "sons of God came to present themselves to Jehovah'. Job38:7. ** In heaven ,Jesus was exalted above angels, thats the content of Heb1:3-6,13" he inherited a name superior to theirs" (Your so called "God" inherited what he has.. una dey mumu seriously). v9" Your God exalted you (Jesus ) above your companions "(angels) Heb 1:3-6,13 says Jesus was exalted above angels. Angels are his peers or companions. Jesus is. an Angel. In fact the archangel |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 3:37pm On May 22, 2019 |
johnw47: you reply in mixed languages as part of your twisting-lying way of talking
@bold, no twisting, you certinally did say you don't care how YHWH name is pronounced, liar: Trinity poo fried beans with your brain sotayy "mixed languages" dey confuse your mumu brain. I reproduce here what I wrote which you been twisting because your mumu Pharisaic brain can't fathom what I'm actually saying.... "Jesus quoted in Matt 22;36,37 MUST CALL HIS FATHER'S NAME, whether he pronounced it as Yahweh, Jehovah or any other way unknown to us, who cares?" ** The point I made in that post is " Jesus MUST CALL HIS FATHER'S NAME" ,anytime he quoted from the Old Testament, and he did so ALWAYS. As at today, since we still don't know how he pronounced it- whether he pronounced it Yahweh, Jehovah or any other way unknown to us ,( "who cares?"  or does it bother us how he did it ? Johnw lying Pharisee and educated illiterate displaying his buffoonery. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 7:45pm On May 21, 2019 |
OkCornel: Everyone, come and see how a shameless liar called alBHAGDADI who claims to be a Christian is accusing me of being a Satanist. Same person who is fond of telling lies...
Just as how he cannot use the scriptures to support certain lies on tithes and first fruits he's been propagating up and down...
Imagine alBHAGDADI saying the tree of knowledge of good and evil is Adam and Eve's tithe! with no scriptures to back it up. This same liar is accusing me of being a satanist... what a pity 
https://www.nairaland.com/5145507/those-people-bible-before-coming/10
Dude... pick a struggle. Am I a satanist? or am I supporting JW?
The truth really hurts...afterall, even Jesus was accused of obtaining powers from Belzeebub to cast out demons...
Tell a hardened liar like alBHAGDADI the naked truth...and automatically...you're a satanist. alBHAGDADI is not different from the religious leaders who also accused Jesus as well... His moniker alone gives him away as a lying Pharisee.... A so called christian wey dey call & pick the name of a serial killer and confirmed terrorist as him moniker..... make you reason am well jare He is also a tithe pastorpreneur. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 7:18pm On May 21, 2019 |
johnw47: once the name "Jehovah" was highly revered by those called Jehovahs witnesses
today it holds no place of esteem at all - "who cares" how YHWH is pronounced Lying Pharisee Johnw in sifia pains !
NL una come and see painment !!
You have posted over 2 responses to this my single post above you here.
My post dey pain you well well, you resorted to twist what I wrote..
Pls come and take melecine to calm your nerves and soot your heart.
Your anger for JWs & against the truth is bad for your heart & well being. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 6:34pm On May 21, 2019 |
shadeyinka: So you mean that the best God could do was to plant a tree which has an everlasting damning consequence to prove love and apprecation?
Luk 11:13: "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?"
Would you put a rattlesnake or cobra in a pot and ask your children to show love and obediene by not putting their hands In the pot?
Could it be that God didnt know that satan will come into Eden to tempt Adam and Eve? Was it an act of forgetfulness that God didn't destroy satan and his angels?
Your answer is not consistent with Gods nature Bro,in other words you're saying that God created poisonous snakes (akin to tree of knowing good/bad) to be with man fully knowing such would be harmful , it's "not consistent with God's nature" *** But you're missing the point. ** God created Adam and gave him simple commands. Gen 2:16,17 "This is love for God: to OBEY his commands" 1 John 5:3. ** That tree in the middle of the garden is symbol of God's authority over man & Adam's dependence on his Maker. Adam's obedience to God's commands is a reflection of his love for God & dependence on God (that is God's sovereignty or right to rule over Adam/mankind). Adam exercised his free will by his choice to disobey his Maker, (that is Adam chosed independence from God or he rejected God's sovereignty). The choices man makes and the results/ consequences.... That is the heart of the matter. For instance, knife has it's proper place in the affairs of men (domestic use in the process of cooking), it wasn't meant to be a weapon for criminal activities. Eccl7:29. Jer2:13. Mark 7:9. Everything God created was VERY GOOD , including the tree planted in the middle of the garden. Gen1:31 |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 11:51am On May 20, 2019 |
johnw47: Fathe sent God the word the Word became the human son of God the Father
so simple to understand, but not for blinded devils mob: ** This forum NL is awash with Johnw lying Pharisee legendary talent for falsehood and LIES. In heaven Jesus is still the son of his Father and God. *** " Thus he who conquers.... I will confess his name openly before my Father and before his angels" Rev 3:5. ** " He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the sanctuary of MY GOD.... I will write on him the name of MY GOD and the name of the city of MY GOD,the new Jerusalem which descends from MY GOD out of heaven ..." Rev 3:12,21. Jesus was in heaven when Paul was inspired through holy spirit to pen down 1 Cor 11:3 *** I want you to know that Christ is the Head of every man, the Head of a woman is her husband and the Head of Christ is God" *** Idiotic John lying Pharisee go and hide your face in shame, you're a talented LIAR pretending to be Christian. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 11:06am On May 20, 2019 |
johnw47: all you have is a sewer mouth
you cannot honestly reply to anything much  Shame on you, Johnw legendary LIAR with mumu brain. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 10:51am On May 20, 2019 |
shadeyinka: Thank you for making me paste up the proper definition of a denominationalist.
A denominationalist is sectarianist! de·nom·i·na·tion·al·ism (dĭ-nŏm′ə-nā′shə-nə-lĭz′əm) n. 1. The tendency to separate into religious denominations. 2. Advocacy of separation into religious denominations. 3. Strict adherence to a denomination; sectarianism.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/denominationalist
It doesn't mean one who doesn't go to any church.
If I happen to move to another city, the most convenient denomination who preach Christ alone is my family and that is where I will worship!
I am not BOUND to any denomination!
[quote author=shadeyinka post=78525936]I am ECWA!
C&S churches do not allow putting on of shoes or sandals inside their church. In my church, we put on shoes. This doesn't make either of us inferior or superior to the other as far as Christ is concerned This Bro said :" I am ECWA !" In my Church , we put on shoes...." (1) to (3) of your definition of Denominationalist strongly supports your claims "I am ECWA !" *** This Bro did a somersault to wound himself.... " I am not BOUND to any denomination..." "I am a Police man but I am not bound to any police force...." Shadeyinka, stop deceiving your self. *** It matters to Jesus if you claim you're his follower and you worship if those (C &S) who use '7 Books of Moses' to practice divination & spiritism under the guise of following Christ. ** The question is what is the motive behind not putting on shoes during worship, is that Christ like? ** If putting on shoes is bad , (since God detests any barrier to His worship) why not go the whole 9 yards and worship in the church with your birthday suit ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 11:34pm On May 19, 2019 |
shadeyinka: I I told you I am not a denominationalist.
[b]Unfortunately, you JWs are part of the several denominations of the Church in the world. shadeyinka: I am ECWA!
.... In my church, we put on shoes. Congrats bro. Your intent was to discredit Jehovah's witnesses but you unwittingly exposed your LIE on this public forum. You are a denominationalist, a member of the ECWA denomination. The early Christians in the book of Acts were an organization of true Christians (all churches in different cities ) ,they followed directives of the governing body of apostles and elders in Jerusalem. (Acts 15:1-32). They had no Daddy GO and pastorpreneurs , or clergy - laity dichotomy |
Christianity Etc › Re: Discussion on Doctrine between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness by Janosky: 2:05pm On May 19, 2019 |
shadeyinka: I I told you I am not a denominationalist. . The fact that I put on my shoes during worship and a C&S Christian does not doesn't make me a better or less Christian.
[b]Unfortunately, you JWs are part of the several denominations of the Church in the world. ] What is your denomination ? "The fact that I put on my shoes during worship", where? in what Church ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 1:53pm On May 19, 2019 |
brocab:
What' is important to us' is the Word of God-nothing else matters-and if you are not speaking His Word, then you are not hearing His Word either-to know all truth.. [color=#990000]So what is the bottom line? {2 Corinthians 11:4} "The fact is-we are not hearing you, ''because we don't know you- Janosky: The triple fraud of brocab lying Pharisee.
brocab post=Well if I am lying-then the bible must be lying too-
Brocab lying Pharisee, Even though you read these words of Jesus Christ (Matt16:13-17 John 3:16. 5:26,37. 6:46. Rev3:5,12-14,21), in your Bible from today till kingdom come, you will still refuse to believe Jesus Christ (John 20:17,30,31). Brocab lying Pharisee without sense **" The Father has sent me , you have neither heard his voice at any time nor seen his figure" I well know that you brocab do not have the love of God in you" John 5:37,42 "These (the holy scriptures) have been written down that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ the son of God and that you may have life by believing in the name of the son of God" John 20:30,31. Brocab is a Pharisee, Pharisees don't believe the words of Jesus whom they pretend to follow. |
Christianity Etc › Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 1:27pm On May 19, 2019 |
johnw47: christians care about how God's name is pronounced, but it is not known for certain Jesus mostly called Him "My Father" "our Father" "the Father" and we christians call Him the same, just as Jesus instructed us to:
Mat_6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, johnw47: Jesus is God Johnw lying Pharisee with out any atom of sense, Trinity worshipper pretending to be a Christian ** "God" instructed you to pray to his Father (Matt6:9). Idiotic Johnw Pharisee where your sense dey? Sense no dey your brain. Trinity poo removed it . |