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Lammie01, Auwal87 and Muza, Good job here. Proud of you. |
Nairaland makes my day than FB |
Cayon:This is a valuable info. . . . Thanks. |
What's the correct pronunciation of the word 'Barca'? Is it pronunced as 'Basa' or 'Baka'? I used to pronounce it 'Baka' before I went to the North to serve and I saw these Hausas calling it 'Basa'. I was about making jest of them, that these abokis no sabi call pronounce anything well. But a friend corrected me that that's the correct pronunciation. Subsequently, I have always listened attentively to spanish commentaries when Barca is playing and I have heard the word pronounced as 'Basa' several times. So is it safe to conclude that the pronunciation 'Baka' is wrong? If that's true, then for the first time, I'm seeing Hausa pronouncing something more correctly than the Yorubas. |
[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=205554.msg3213653#msg3213653 date=1229057654]This is a fast moving thread. Mymy . . . my! Let's see. . .Yes and No. Before it became a protectorate it was Islam and native religion. The Christians were expatriate minorities - potogi (Portugese). Lagos was ceded to the British around 1852. Beyond that and with gradual missionary works (CMS - Christian Missionary Service) Christianity grew, especially with their schools. The missionaries did not allow muslim children in school unless they would first convert to Christian faith or change name and adopt a christian name. NO, but as humans we generally are fearful and suspicious of the unknown. If people would take time to read Sharia law instead of going by newsfeed they will appreciate it and come to the realization that Sharia was often referenced and quoted by many of the freethinkers of the early Western culture and was at a time when they were undergoing political struggles and tyranny and needed to break free of the limitations imposed by their tyrannical Monarchs. If you study the United States Constitution and if you are very intimate with the Sharia laws you will notice the close similarity in the injunctions. The laws are older than the constitution, so it couldn't have been modeled after the latter but inversely, the latter was a model for the constitution writers. The problem is not Sharia, the laws are adequate. The humans that interprete and practice them with an agenda to manipulate and control people and divide society are weird and forsaken. Going by the name calling and attacks and counter-attacks and venom that are let loose on this thread, I will say their agenda is working effectively. [/quote]Hard to believe there are still landers this objective. |
[quote author=Alam-Tara link=topic=206322.msg3209964#msg3209964 date=1228997906]Who has been responsible for the greatest achievements and advancements in Nigeria? The Muslims or the Christians?[/quote]iru ase wo l'awe yi nso |
iceblue:I also admire the farewell wishes many NLders expressed for MC when leaving,even though I feel he shouldn't have passed such comments about those people he listed, but rather seek reconciliation with people that have offended him. |
THEIRRY HENRY SHOULD BE THE NEXT WORLD FOOTBALLER OF THE YEAR ,This post is most laughable. Henry as WPOY in 2008? Are you kidding? It would have been arguable if we were in 2003-2005, but saying this in 2008 is most ridiculous. On the question of who's better between CR7 and Henry, comparing may be a little bit difficult given the fact that one is a striker and the other a winger, but if we take the fact that both are forwards, then we can compare. Henry was in Top form for about four seasons, and CR7 is also doing great for three seasons running and no sign of dropping in form in sight. Still difficult to say who's better, but if put to vote,I'll vote for Henry. Don't ask me the reason because I too don't know. |
Pataki, Now that the Awo hall issue has been clarified and settled, we may attempt to argue out the other issue: THE LAGOS MUSLIMS ASSERTION Let me reproduce that my contentious post for reference: As regards Lagos' Muslim population, I may not totally agree that Lagos has more Muslims than Christians. From my observations however, I believe majority of the core Lagos indigenous families(the Ojoras, the Williams, the Oyekans, the Akiolus,the Smiths,Okoyas,the Tinubus etc) have more Muslims than Christians.At no place did I mention that Lagos, taken as a whole, has more Muslims than Christians. If anything, what I said was 'I may not totally agree that Lagos has more Muslims than Christians' Then I attempted an analysis of Lagos Muslim-Christian population using some demographic parameters like indigenes, areas etc. I stand by my claim that 'From my observations however, I believe majority of the core Lagos indigenous families(the Ojoras, the Williams, the Oyekans, the Akiolus,the Smiths,Okoyas,the Tinubus etc) have more Muslims than Christians.' This is my observation, and I did not quote any research or factual statistics. But remember observation is also recognised as a scientific tool. Of course I cannot list every single member of Okoya, Tinubu,Williams,Oyekan,Smith,Akiolu and other indigenous Lagos families and divide them into their religious affiliations, and draw conclusion, but more than 50% of members of these families I've come across are Muslims. And I draw my conclusion from this. So if we go back to the beginning of Lagos, it was founded on Islam right? by pataki in response to my postI never said that, and that is not reasonably inferable from my post. Lagos was not founded on Islam. Lagos,like any other Yoruba town, was founded on traditional religions. But with the coming of Islam and Christianity, these people went with whichever they found convincing. The families in question definitely accepted Islam, and Lagos was not founded on Islam, justy my own family too accepted Islam in the 1920's. |
The paragraph is definitely unambiguous, but let me attempt an ABC analysis, perhaps you may get me: If anybody says social activities alone are what make Awo Hall tick, such a person is either ignorant or being economical with the truth. On the religious realm, Awo Hall is known to have the largest congregation of practicing Muslims that say their five daily prayers regularly and timely. Sermons in the hall’s mosque are always so powerful, touching and thought-provoking that the lives of many Muslim students in the hall and beyond, changed for good as a result of these admonitions. Although most of the Christian fellowships prefer Fajuyi Hall as their base, some of them are also based in Awo Hall.If anybody says social activities alone are what make Awo Hall tick, such a person is either ignorant or being economical with the truth. From this statement, it is obvious the paragraph being introduced is about saying something about other qualities of Awo hall apart from social activities. On the religious realm suggests the next feature to be mentioned is religious disposition of Awoites, abi Awo Hall is known to have the largest congregation of practicing Muslims that say their five daily prayers regularly and timely. Sermons in the hall’s mosque are always so powerful, touching and thought-provoking that the lives of many Muslim students in the hall and beyond, changed for good as a result of these admonitions I started with the Muslims. That, ironically, despite the radical nature of Awoites, the Muslims in the hall say their 5 daily prayers and sermons in the hall mosque are very moving and life-changing. Again nothing in this statement suggests I'm comparing Muslims and Christians. Refer to my US Nigerians analogy in my earlier post. Although most of the Christian fellowships prefer Fajuyi Hall as their base, some of them are also based in Awo Hall And finally, I talked about Christianity in Awo hall. That, although Faj is generally more preferred by Christian fellowships for their activities, some of them [BSF @ block 7,another(can't recall the name) in block 8]. So again, I never compared Muslims and Christians in Awo hall, rather I compared Muslims in Awo with other halls and Christians in Awo hall with other hall. To argue there are more Muslims in Awo hall,nay OAU in general, is enough evidence to say somebody never attended Ife. And I will never say that. |
If anybody says social activities alone are what make Awo Hall tick, such a person is either ignorant or being economical with the truth. On the religious realm, Awo Hall is known to have the largest congregation of practicing Muslims that say their five daily prayers regularly and timely. Sermons in the hall’s mosque are always so powerful, touching and thought-provoking that the lives of many Muslim students in the hall and beyond, changed for good as a result of these admonitions. Although most of the Christian fellowships prefer Fajuyi Hall as their base, some of them are also based in Awo Hall.As regards the first boldened part, I can now see you did not misfire in interpreting the sentence, that is just your level of understanding. When same mistake is made twice, we may need to replace the word 'mistake' with 'ignorance'. If you still interprete that statement to mean 'there are more Muslims than Christians in Awo hall', then it's serious. As regards the statement 'Although most of the Christian fellowships prefer Fajuyi Hall as their base, some of them are also based in Awo Hall.', isn't it clear enough to tell you that the comparison here is between the number of fellowships in Awo and Faj, and not between Muslims and Christians. Isn't it a known fact that there are more fellowships in Faj than Awo. Ogbeni pataki, please don't let your hatred for a set of people becloud your sense of interpretation!!!! |
Pataki, you are no doubt one of the most intelligent Nairalanders, but this quality seems to desert you while reading my article, and inevitably while posting that malicious comment. For reference purpose, let me reproduce teh article in question: The world of Awo Hall 20/12/2007Grammarians in NL, please tell me, is that statement saying there are more Muslims in Awo hall than Christians? Isn't it unambiguous enough to show you that I'm comparing Muslims in Awo hall with Muslims in other halls, and not Muslims with Christians. Or do you expect me to use a primary 1 English that 'there are more practising Muslims in Awo hall than other halls'. Consider this statement: 'New York has largest concentration of Nigerians in US'. Does that mean Nigerians are the largest natioanality in US? My primary 3 sister will definitely not think that way. Obviously, the statement means there are more Nigerians in NY than any other US city. Pataki, your English teacher will not be proud of you for this interpretation gaffe. |
Pataki:Me? Claim that there are more Muslims in Awo hall than Christians? You obviously did not have your glasses on when reading my article. I saw this post shortly after you posted it yesternight but the server failed me. And responding to it is the first thing I'll do this morning, even before attending to Auditors waiting for me. It's only unfortunate that Dayokanu has been and other people that have read it have already ingested it before this defence. |
Seun:Starting the thread is not the problem really, but sustaining the thread. Many sports analysts in NL will not be interested in contributing to those threads, and the threads will 'extinct' just after two days. For example i read about Mikel's performance in Chelsea V Cluj here http://discussions.ghanaweb.com/viewtopic.php?t=94510&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 |
Not having any country where sharia is practised sincerely, though unenviable, is not an arguement against what Sharia can do. Even the much-praised democracy is not fully practised anywhere. Saudi Arabia's brand of sharia is nearer to the ideal Sharia and Saudi is morally saner than many countries. |
[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=206090.msg3207142#msg3207142 date=1228935037] I don't support polygamy please but I was wondering why God should forbid us from doing that and allow animals to do it.[/quote]First and foremost, my own God does not forbid polygamy, up to 4 wives for MAN. But this is not forgetting to tell you that your analogy lacks logic. You could as well argue that if animals mate openly, then what's wrong in human beings having sex on the street. Think of saner topics please. |
Frizy:. . . . pitying him too! |
davidylan:Answer: Jarus: |
Just have time to contribute to this topic now, even though I've been monitoring it since morning. Well, as a Muslim, I'm pro-Sharia and I believe,if practised sincerely, it is the only system that can bring sanity to the world. This is my own take. I don't care what anybody says. As regards Lagos' Muslim population, I may not totally agree that Lagos has more Muslims than Christians. From my observations however, I believe majority of the core Lagos indigenous families(the Ojoras, the Williams, the Oyekans, the Akiolus,the Smiths,Okoyas,the Tinubus etc) have more Muslims than Christians. Another thing I observe is that the core Lagos Island and its environs have more Muslim population, this is where you see the Kamorus, the Lukus, the Sikiras, the Basiras aplenty. Also Epe and Ikorodu have more Muslims than Christians. Before the critical Lekki traffic forced us to move to VI early this year, we(my family) lived in a settlement after Ajah, on Epe expressway, and 75% of the people of this community are Muslims. On the other side, the areas VI,Lekki,Ikoyi etc are dominated by the Christians, so much so that we don't even have a mosque in our VI area now, and I have to be joining the Hausas to pray in the make-shift mini-ground around. I may not be convinced enough to say there are more Muslims in Lagos than Christians, but to say Lagos' Christians quadruples Muslims, as yemmyse claimed, is turning truth on its head. |
I'm also not a fan of Nigerian league, infact I hate it to the extent that I tune on anytime I switch to Supersports and they are embarassing Nigeria, oh sorry they are showing Nigerian league. However I like to monitor the performance of Nigerian players in Europe, but NL sports section fails in this regard as well. Ghanaweb discusses Nigerian foreign players more than Nigerians in NL, so the only reason I go to ghanaweb is to get fresh news on Nigerian players in Europe. |
typical muslim - inconsiderate, intolerant, hypocrites.Davidylan at his ignorant best!!! |
The man Obafemi Awolowo is a very controversial personality. 90% of the Yorubas idolize him. Until PDP's 2003 abracadabra, they used his name to win elections(even after his death-AD). He was no doubt a man with charisma. I have read the views of many here on this man. I can see the Igbos almost unanimously attributing their woes to him. Personally, I'm not a fan of the man, largely due to his power-thirst. As a matter of fact, my father was a First republic politician and a core Awoist. But my problem with Awo is what led to the infamous operation wetie crisis in Ibadan and the entire South-west(then Western region) in 1963. After relinguishing power to hsi no 2, Akintola, to seek power at the central, and losing out, he came back wanting to take over premiership of Western region from Akintola again. This led to serious crisis and many lives and property were lost. Unfortunately, many people shared sentiments with Awo and Akintola is still demonized till today. This is, however, not taking away his brilliance and foresightedness. He built the university I attended with just cocoa money and many other legacies of his are still there today. A friend of mine, who passionately dislikes Awo, would always tell me how Awo corruptly enriched his family then, but I'm finding it difficult to agree with him. |
Muza:. . . and you, too, obviously haven't seen OAU before. People that know the two give it to Ife. Anybody around here that has been to the two? |
In a predominantly Muslim LG, distributing rams to people, if fairly done and not cornered by a set of people, I believe, is part of welfare package from the people. It would have been a different case if the price of the cows had been ridiculously high but N28,000 per ram isn't out of place. Even poor us here bought 13 rams ranging from N18,000 to N22,500 each for the just concluded sallah. |
mikeansy:To make a name for yourself in NL or anywhere else, you need to depart from the majority, you need to hold wierd opinions and start controversial threads. Muza is on this mission. Leave them alone, they will soon realize that selective anti-corruption war is better than no war all. |
ASE TOPIC ask any kwara man the meaning of ase |
Me too |
Cristalz:Are you kidding me? Adebayor will not make TOP 3. Who else will? It's a straight fight between him and Zaki, and the pendulum tilts to his side. |
MrCrackles:You didn't seem to get me. I nominated Song for Young African POtY, not the two categories we are talking about. [quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=204239.msg3187502#msg3187502 date=1228519505]Adebayor?? Puhleeeeeeaze. . . . What did he win last season? He would prolly get an award for this most moronic goal celebrant with his makossa moves. . . . Essien played in Moscow, played in Wembley(Carling Cup) and nearly won the PREM. . . . . . Then we have Kanoute, Uche Ikechukwu et al. . . . . .[/quote]Haba, this is nationalism taken too far. Uche tried no doubt, but he can't even make the TOP 10. When,aside from the TOP 5 already nominated, we have other high performers like Muntari,Eto'o(pitiably he picked form back after CAF list out),Zidan etc. I doubt if any Nigerian can win that award in the next five years. Well, maybe Nsofor or Obasi, when the likes of Drogba,Essien,Eto'o have left the stage!!! |
ACROSS THE WORLD CATEGORY: Adebayor beats anybody hands down. . . . Zaki tries sha, but I doubt if he can win it IN AFRICA: Indisputably Aboutreika. Flavio also tied though. What about Young African player of the year. Shortlist not yet out, but Nigerians have been winning it recently[Martins 2002,2003 Mikel 2005, Taiye Taiwo 2006] I think Alexander Song should win it this year!!! |
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