₦airaland Forum

MelesZanawi:
Anything Anambra, my hand no dey.

Most of them abroad are criminals.

You are an ethnic jingoist.
should be ashamed of yourself

WCUB3:
Good evening seniors in the house.

Please is it possible for a student to get Laptop on contract purchase? If yes what are the requirements?

Paypal credit for Samsung purchases? Interest free and spread out over months. But you need to have paypal credit.

Alot of people talking what they do not know. PCOS has absolutely nothing to do with virginity or how chaste a lady is.

@op, consider the option of trying for another IVF, surrogacy, adoption or moving abroad. Sit and discuss with her in a non-emotional way

Photoshop.

No sense. Undertakers decided to go to a house of their choosing

Dtruthspeaker:
IThey were not killed for translating to English but for letting The Truth come out!

The worst thing you can do to evil people is to reveal the Truth! They will always kill to hide the Truth!

But God is The Ruler and Truth will always come out.


Émile Zola — 'If you shut up truth and bury it under the ground, it will but grow, "

You're saying thesame thing.
Nothing brings out the truth of Gods word better than getting the bible in people's language- one they truly understand.

Techobeys:
I don’t think the highlighted part was necessary for this conversation. But it was good that the bible was translated because this makes the message reach a lot more people.

Like I said about grammar laws and sentence structure, it’s not for everyone. If a person understands grammar and reads both translations, they’ll see certain difference between a person who doesn’t understand grammar will assume they’re saying the same things.

I don’t think I can bring out examples rightaway, maybe when I study and remember something I’ll bring some.

Culture is dynamic and language being a fundamental part changes with time. Most English speakers today would not understand it's earlierst forms. Many of the English words today were also borrowed from earlier languages.

One can only argue the 'correctness' of a language structure based on it's contemporaries within a given time and what's widely acceptable.

It would be good to share examples of how the version of the English language spoken in 1100 has better grammar and sentence structure than that spoken in 1600 and that of 2000

Dtruthspeaker:
Now you understand what it means "it is the glowry of God to hide a matter".

If any truly wants Truth, then they ought to pay the price of seeking it out.

The kingdom of God is for the will full and diligent and not an all comers affair.

Thus, only the earnest and the serious will embark on the Way The Lord hath laid before men. All unserious people shall be cut off.

Interesting... I wonder if this same notion was put forward to prevent the translation of the bible into English in the first place. Many of the earlier translators were seen as heretics and killed...

Talking about hiding things, should the bible even have Hausa, Igbo or other indigenous translations? It's truth should also be hidden from more folks

@Seun

The fact is that the passwords have been stolenn for a very long time and had been circulating on the dark web. I know how long ago my anti-virus software notified me my nairaland password had been compromised.

You should do better on this and put in effort to safeguard sensitive data. Most people use same password across sites so the implications might extend beyond NL.

Most importantly, steps should be put in placevto ensure this does not happen again.

Image123:
Because it still remains the most accurate/detailed of the English versions. That's the simple and short answer.
Words like doest, thou are not a challenge for a student of the Word, which all believers are. Like reading Shakespeare and other great works in literature, they don't complain about it but appreciate and even revere it.

The primary function of Language is to communicate.
The KJV has had a number of revisions before the NKJV arrived. The KJV popular in Nigeria is the one that was used when there was a local revival and far from the 'original'

I have been opportuned to read earlier KJVs and can assure you most of what is written there is hardly understandable

Kobojunkie:
Truly believe what exactly?

To have Jesus Christ, you require understanding of His Truth -- of your own. Now, if your understanding comes from that fed you by others, it won't work. And if you are unable to comprehend what is written in the KJV translatiok which you cling to, what understanding can you truly claim to possess?

Yes it it good to have gain understanding by ones study. Much of that could also be by being taught. Or are those in whom the bible has not been translated to their mother tongue or language they easily understand set aside from being saved?

Christianity is not as complex as we make it. Of note is that there's general understanding of the KJV, I'm more about what folks can better grasp and relate to. Improvements here.

Kobojunkie:
Fervent believers of what? That which they comprehend or that which they are fed from the mouths of their pastors and mogs regarding that which is written? What does it mean to say a thing is "spiritual"?

How many of those "fervent believers" would pick up a play by Shakespeare today to read?

You made certain points but the majority truly believe but for many reasons just stick to the KJV though some phrases there are difficult.

Techobeys:
The old KJV and NKJV differ on certain things. It’s centuries afterwards and motive might have changed. The NKJV tends to follow popular opinions on certain issues bc people tend to make personal inferences when translating.

Also, the old KJV is easy to read if a person has been impacted by the spirit of knowledge. It’s not the book itself that gives understanding but the spirit that lives within that gives understanding of the book.

There are many people who have come to understanding of grammar structure and better comprehension by reading the old KJV, you can’t get such experience with newer translations. In fact, anyone who truly understands English language is going to look at certain bible translations and laugh at the lack of understanding of English language of the translators.

We spiritualise basic things. We struggle with todays English talk more of an archaic version used centuries ago. Perhaps, the bible should have never been translated from the Hebrew, Greek and latin texts into other languages.

Regarding grammar structure, can you share examples of where the KJV has a better structure than the NKJV?

Going on,

The reason the bible was translated to other language including English was to aid understanding among locals at the time. It used to be a whole church would have one bible in front and the priest would read and interpret to the locals during the service. Hence understanding was poor as most followed what was told them.


The efforts at translation was strongly resisted by church leaders at the time who believed some languages were 'holy' and it was heresy to translate the bible into other common language like English. Many Christians lost this life in the effort to translate.

Kobojunkie:
1. The simple answer is there con/scam works best when they use a version of the bible that there gullible followers can't comprehend even though they pretend to.

2. Most of their members aka Churchians do not understand this and so they gullibly believe lies fed them of one translation being more spiritually acceptable than the rest when the book is nothing but paper and glue.

Here's a truth about King James most folks don't know. Before he commissioned the translation of the Bible, he wrote the book Demonologie for his thesis work.

Hmmm... not always about scams. Many are fervent believers.

I believe folks just like the way words like thou, sayest e.t.c sound. To them, its more spiritual

Techobeys:
The reason why churches insist on kJV is bc they know that many people going into the business of translation do not care about the message. So they jump into doing without being led. They translate their imagination into the word.

Also you have to understands that modern humans are very much confused, to they change the meaning of words to suit their own ideas so their works cannot be trusted.

KJV had many parts where the context of the message is different from what’s obtainable in other religions.

It's not about using multiple translations.
There's new KJV which has been around for decades. Uses thesame theme as the old version but in modern English.

English is not the first language for many Nigerians. How much more sticking to an archaic version we barely understand. Things like doest, sayest, thou e.t.c.

One thing I've always wondered was why many churches still insist on the old KJV. With words like thou, doest e.t.c that are no longer in use in todays English language, one would wonder why they stick to a version of English that is more difficult to understand.

Is it that versions in modern and simple to understand English do not appear as 'weighty' and 'spiritual'?


The main guiding principle behind different translations boils down to better understanding and accurrate translation from manuscripts. Why do we insist on a version of English that is largely outdated and difficult to understand?

Good stuff finally...
Wondering why it took this long.

Larger churches with schools and universities should do thesame

IngrateWifeKids:
[b] Having a ....

If Nigerian womrn are the issue, you can marry an oyibo wife. She will lick your foot, serve and worship you.

LagBlogger:
Once again you are wrong. Let's pretend the remittances is $30 bn per year, the official GDP is a gross underestimation of real GDP.

Checkout thisday article that explains how our informal sector is not computed: https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/07/11/the-informal-economy-in-nigeria/amp/

Nigeria has the third largest informal sector in the world as an estimated 58% of true GDP which means if informal sector is captured we should be talking at least $830 bn.

Your remittances then would be less than 3% of true GDP even at $30bn.

How I arrived at 57%? Do your research yourself.

Keeps clutching straws.
The 30b usd is their change that is 4x our foreign direct investment.

Absolutely, diasporeans are suffering. Our 130 million poor are enjoying.

ahiboilandgas:
that the problem with JAPA people you started well but ended emotional why must you bring in Nigeria into the comparisim?.any body intending to JAPA is not in the bottom of the pyramid in Nigeria .

Absolutely... our doctors, nurses,IT experts, auditors, middle-class e.t.c are at the bottom of the Nigerian pyramid.

Our 10 million almajirai, theiving politicians and 130 million poor folks are at the top of our economic pyramid.

Treadway:
so based on this analogy, you or rather Nigerians japaing are the almajiri's. Good thing you said it, cos if I or he had said that everywhere for catch fire.

Comprehension....

In the analogy, Dangote is the Uk. Nigeria is the a....

Well if you believe your doctors, IT specialists audiors, middle class e.t.c are almajiris, then that says so much about the 130 milliom poor Nigerians

ahiboilandgas:
no the question and topic remain ! Why are Nigerians japing to the UK when UK worker are on strike. If don't have any reasonable answer to the question move on.

I've have answered that multiple times...

Reason is high cos of items due to 10% inflation- the highest in 40yrs.

Now, when was the last time inflation in Nigeria was 10%?
Imagine what UK workers would do if they have suffered a decade of roughly 20% inflation.

BTW, our CBN target for inflation is 9% while theirs is 2%. Says it all.

Still same folly- comparing problems of developed countries to developing countries. Dangote saying he's broke is different from an almajiri being broke.

Poor Nigerian diasporeans....

https://www.ft.com/content/ca39b445-442a-4845-a07c-0f5dae5f3460

ahiboilandgas:
only around 5 percent are in those level you listed above! The bulk of the remittance it to pay back JAPA loan ! Sponsor more Japarains ,black tax , develop retirement home ( while living like a pauper overseas) develop status home , send illegal earned money from undocumented workers , business email comprise remittance , hookers for Italy ( zero tax ) drug and 419 funds from India to Thailand . Infact the main remittances is from hustle ( una sabi within I mean sha ) how much per hour work one send na ...100 to 200 pound. While the Italian Madam can send 100,000 euro , the run girl 5000 euro !Yahoo boys 11 m USD . See mopha transaction. 32bn Naira remittance . After you pay rent pay health insurance pay tax ,pay car insurance pay parking pay day care pay gas and electrical ( 180 USD) barb ( 20) water 50 where you want see money remit to build house for lekki . You need about 1300 pounds per month to Manage for UK vs media wage of 18k ( after taxing above the 125000 income) ...1300x 12 =15600 - 18000 = saving 200 pounds per month ( so where the 20bn USD remittance) wan show from .

They're suffering but the poverty capital of the world in enjoying. Happy now?

timesuploaded:
Every Nigerian living in America and Canada are broke, depressed and suicidal. The first 10million richest Nigerian live and work in Nigeria. Nobody ever traveled to America or Canada and made it. They are all slaves. Tell Americans to pay cash for their cars and 80% of them will be trekking this very minute. Tell Americans to pay cash for their houses and 99.9% of them will be homeless and sleeping on the street tonight. There is no progress in America. America is a failed and glorified shiithole

So you wish. Of course Nigerians living in Nigeria are enjoying with their private jets

What you fail to understand is that the western countries are taking your best heads in health, IT e.t.c. That is why they far outperform even the locals. The other day, Buhari was thanking these diasporeans for saving the naira from further disgrace

Regarding your statement about cars, I'd add that to the odd analogies I shared above.
The folly in this statement is same with when ahib said food in the west was more expensive than in Nigeria cos he was comparing the usd price of a coke bottle. After effective teaching, he has never repeated such statement.

I agree America is poor but in our rich Nigeria 95% of our 'new cars' are cars they've used and discarded. Many of which are accidented/flooded and written off.

America is poor yet their discarded clothes are packaged and sent to the rich Nigeria as okrika. lol

America is poor yet it has the biggest economy in the world but rich Nigeria is not even in the top 20.

America is poor yet one U.S company has a market value of over 2 trillion usd. Lol

Reflect over those statements and you'd question the validity of your thought process

LagBlogger:
There are 2 million Nigerians living abroad. $20,000,000,000/2,000,000 = $10,000 on average per annum.

This cannot be spare change. So you are not reeling facts.

Most Nigerians abroad send home substantial money for investment as backup plan in case things don't work out well abroad.

$10,000 by any standard is a substantial amount. Why would they risk such if Nigeria is worthless?

Not all of it will go into investment, some to support family back home but the bulk of it will be for investment.

First, the sum has risen well above 20b usd and over four times our foreign direct investment.

It only captures the sum sent through official CBN channels which I can tell you is cumbersome. A good chunk of remittance is not captured in this.

Whatever reason they send money back home for, they'd have first paid tax, accomodation, food, and some even mortgage and cars e.t.c. Hence in economics whats left is called discretion income i.e change

Investing in Nigeria is hardwork. Not many prioritise this. The growth of the economy tells you that. The naira has lost 26% of value against the usd this year. I.e, anyone holding usd eithout even doing anything is already 26% up. Why wouldn't that person seek investments in their abode and avoid the hassles of some thieving relatives. On average, the naira loses 10- 20% yearly for the past 40 years. Yes, some make investments back home but most have been severely burnt and have vowed never to.

Hence the remittance figure you see is indeed a small portion of the full picture

ahiboilandgas:
as the risk of child turning gays Abi No way! With Gay,lesbian and bisexual having more rights more than blacks .it a toxic and risky and unfit for my kids ! Doyin okupe son is a classic example .NO way .

Lets always remember that the reason over 90% of Nigerians either identify as Christians or Muslims is mainly because other groups or nations forcefully spread their religion to us thru conquest.
If homosexual relationships were legal in the UK as of the time of colonialism, just like we speak english, we'd be singing a different tune.

Homosexuality hardly the world problem today. We have our women openly soliciting sex on our streets and people like you picking them up and coming to brag on NL. Let's start with that.

ahiboilandgas:
hard working Nigerian Japarains .kindly tell me what this Nigeria lady is doing .do it look like enjoying or suffering .honest opinion.

The answer is in your picture if only you have the IQ to understand it.

Cue: see my post abv

erico2k2:
You are just hating cos U could not get a VISA and recieved a long term Ban and here you are. Fact is these rubbish you are spewing on here why dont you venture to the property and Auto sections of Nairaland and vomit all these

Lol... as is the story with most, he tried to migrate unsuccessfully before. Now, lacking the required skill to land a good job he hates what he cannot achieve.

It's folks like him that would do everything to make sure his kids school abroad.

Due to Low IQ he cannot decipher that the reason those in the pictures he's posting put themselves thru such is because of the state of things in their home nation.

japhethGold:
You Have Said It All bro.

I left Nigeria as CFO of an oil and gas servicing company through student route. I left with my family. But since the past 1 year, I have NO single regret coming here. Although there are challenges to put you off, which are normal in life.

I have finished my MSc with distinction and as best graduating student last October and has gotten a job already as a Lecturer based on my excellent academic performance. I don't know anybody! I have no connection like is obtainable in Nigeria! Who sit far away in Nigeria and said UK is not a great country. This is a great country that you will succeed in if you are excellent and hardworking. Just put your head down and work your way to the TOP!

Note, my formal Award ceremony is this Jan 6th but I have gotten the job to even resume before my formal graduation ceremony. I give JESUS ALL the Glory!

The reverse is the case where we came from- politicians have destroyed everything. No connection No job for you in the very university that produced you even when you have first class. Is that a country?

Congrats!

Experience speaks....