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[quote author=pres-elect link=topic=365826.msg5111550#msg5111550 date=1260813718]at last someone's ideology is being liberated from the ramshackles of the gun loving neo cons . . . it's always good to be a liberal [/quote]Abeg jare my ideology has never need liberating  it has always been rooted in common sense.

As for being a liberal . . . I had a co-worker I shared an office with once, absolutely fantastic, wonderful, cool, genuine caucasian fella - as gay as it gets, and as liberal as they come. We would discuss everything from politics to music to religion for hours. He made my time at that company an absolute joy and I learned so much from him. He was gay, and the management was mostly 'christian'. And the way they treated him and others was despicable.

Btw my gay, liberal coworker and the christian management - who would I trust with my life? Talk is cheap, and so are ideologies. Show me the person and I'll judge based on who they are and what they've done. So while this new breed of liberalism may have gone totally beserk, I recall my dude Jay, and I'm reminded there are brilliant liberals out there . . . however[b] few [/b] they might be 

^I cannot even laugh see correct detective work.

Toshmann abi na Don Juan Prez has turned on the fan, the breeze is blowing and all that was hidden is being blown wide open Lol

[quote author=pres-elect link=topic=363337.msg5111486#msg5111486 date=1260813020]@horus
thanks for that piece. let the US marines follow the taliban/al qaeda all around the globe. note that the taloban were not interested in US territory. they just wanted to rule their land. al qaeda was the enemy and they have no borders, just an ideology. an ideology that unfortunately feeds on this kind of military intervention.

this is not a war of military might but a war of ideology. those boys should pull out[/quote]True. But that ideology has been obese with hate since times ancient against all who don't accpet and bow to it. It may feed on the military presence now, but it has long since been devouring on a steady diet of hate and intolerance.

naliakar:
Where was Tayo-D and jeSoul. Texsas of all the places.I thought the Republicans were on a roll after winning NJ and VI.

Kai, how come I didn't even see this shot before?

Naliakar, sorry to disappoint you, I am not against gays or democrats or liberals for that matter holding public office . . . I am against fools, intolerants, liars and idiots from holding public office. Exhibit A: Martha Coakley.

Balderdash . . . you shoulda recognized that was the sole and distinct quality of the response you just posted 

I have said the default position whenever anyone dares to criticize the chosen anointed one aka Obama, is to declare "well what about Bush/Republicans". Bush did a terrible job as did the Reps when they were in power. BUT this thread is about Obama's decisions not George Bush's failures. And I replied Kay who specifically lauded Obama's "dialogue" route, pointing out it does not work. Shikena. Geez, the fervor with which Obamabots jump to his defense is just nauseating sometimes.

Kay 17:
i beg the guy is working hard, just some right-wing movement trying to tarnish his image. people expect magic from him. he has gua bay set to close, set out the process to bring troops home, struck dialogue with iran and nk, those were powerful moves. plus the copenhagen summit. he has tried.

And how is that "dialogue" working out so far for him and the US? Iran continues to march on forward completely unfazed towards forging and carving out their own space in the nuclear echelon, while taunting, daring and wagging their tongues at the US, Britian and the west, brandishing their defiance with brazen insolence.

Yes, dialogue is certainly working just fine.

I am particularly saddened that Tonye, a brother I once had a sizeable amount of fancy for has determined to pursue with passion this[b] false teaching that is "required/mandatory tithes".[/b]

I hope others will not entertain the above solicitation (that is[i] as usual disguised as an honest invitation[/i] ) to engage in useless, recycled debates, but simply leave him to his folly, in the hopes that he will get some spiritual sense bestowed or forced upon him sooner than later.

People who have been gone for weeks should not talk but simply explain themselves to the board about why they've been AWOL. These people know themselves

Max, Max, Max, oh sister where art thou? I hope all is well


Spiked, someone else told me Ninja Assasin was the ish lol. I must see this weekend. And the trailers for Avatar have gotten me anticipating big time. It looks to be a fantastic watch.

Horus:
It is suposed to be a war agaisnt terrorism a war agaisnt Al-quaeda, Not a war against a country. Now Al-quaeda is not a country, Al-quaeda can cross border and set up training camps in Iran, Somalia, Soudan, etc, , so Americans will have to invade all this list of countries and play the endless cat and mouse game with terrorists if they want to be successful and this is very costly in human live and money. This war is fighting just the symptoms of terrorism but not the root of terrorism.

GBAM to every consonant, syllable, noun, adverb, vowel, comma and period!

toshmann:
@horus & pres-elect et al

when u hear that nazi germany was defeated, how do u think it happened? u think FDR gave the order and the 3rd reich stopped? it was bloody, mate. 3,000 men died on d-day alone. lots of civilian casualties in france. did u hear of dresden? it was very bloody stopping the Nazis. how about the civil war, it was horrendous. 600,000 dead. that washow slavery ended in the US. war is a sad reality, if not for some of these wars, you and i would have been slaves b/c hitler would have gone ahead to conquer africa and use us in labor camps.

so chill, if these terrorists lay their hands on nuclear weapons, that your london wont be safe o

Nazi germany was a recognizable, identifiable institution with an established, situated location, population, identity and leadership.

  Who is the head of al-quaeda? or the taliban? what uniform do they wear? where are their headquarters? where are their warships and positions? what is the size of their army? who is their leadership and who is in the chain of command? where do they get their funding? how much and how fast can they replenish resources that are taken out? are they situated in one country? or spread out across the entire middle east?

  We are fighting against a ghost, a shadow army, and we cannot win.

Lol . . . I could not take any more pleasure in seeing the total disarray the Cowtoys are in. I am just waiting for who will be blamed this yr . . . TO must be overcome with joy in his basement in Buffalo 

  As for my Pats . . . I have never seen so many TO's in one game  if they were playing a respectable team they would not have won. All our RB's should be given pink slips, useless bunch. And our defense needs some padding or maturing real fast if we expect to make any playoff noise.

And since I'm feeling very generous today, I will not even taunt Bawo and his poor Bears  . You're welcome lol.

When it comes to politics, for the most part I don't care if the candidate is gay, blue or black, select the best and most qualified person for the job whose record and history speaks for itself.

  I'd rather have a gay mayor with a proven track record of distinguished service, than a so-called christian who's done nothing but line his/her own pockets.

Prez, my liberal brotha from anotha motha, I know you got my back like that thanks for the heads up though I've already penned Toshmann for a smooth talker lol. Since he said he doesn't fight with women I was tickled to have a lil fun.


Toshmann, Kai! see as Prez just demolished you defend yourself now hehe . . . abi your wife has caught you? lol

toshmann:
i dont know what the problem is with these liberals, pres-elect what do yuo want? he should hand over victory to the taliban and al qaeda? and u'll be happy. listen, everybody knew he would increase troop levels, he just plaed politics with this decision to appease the liberal wing of the white house, joe biden et al. i guess the guy is torn between common sense and politics. what is the meaning of troop increase 10,000 less than he was asked for, if this mission fails, the generals will have a perfect excuse for it___obama didnt give us what we want, when we wanted it.

this is just disgusting. like someone said, either u give the generals what they want or you pull out of the war. he did neither. result, make we de pray for success . . . !

My brotha help me wonder oh.

[quote author=pres-elect link=topic=363337.msg5069931#msg5069931 date=1260244854]the real reason why america is safe today (if it is safe) is because of somehard working security agents at home. wether the taliban takes over afghanistan or al qaeda returns to rule them, as long as american scurity officers a home are efficient, they will not attack the homeland. if they like let them (al qaeda ) overun the whole middle east. i expected obama to pull out of afghanistan, increase assistance to pakistan were there is real danger of taliban taking over the nuclear facility, giv the govt in pakistan some real support and secure the homeland. but this was not to be.[/quote]Prez, you already know I was against the increase for the simple reason that this is not now nor will ever be an instance where "victory/success" can be had. Plain and simple.

  About diverting the resources instead to Pakistan, I'm not so sure about that. For how long can we sustain such an effort? ME countries are all corrupt and those funds will be misappropriated. I agree with your first point to instead develop and fortify the frontlines here at home. It may not be the perfect solution, but it is the only one we can sustain long term. We cannot control what happens elsewhere in the world.

toshmann:
my philosophy in life is that evil thrives only when it is tolerated. by not outrightly condeming the evil in question, and by even makins statements that tend to show some empathy for such an evil girl, you have wittingly or unwittingly aided and abbetted the propagation of this kind of evil.

Looking back, you're right. My lack of condemnation could have easily been seen as a silent approval of the way the U.S. by large is attacking the Italian justice system.

  I guess I save my thunder and fire for more important issues such as the current race to replace Ted Kennedy's seat here in Massachusetts . . . you will surely have no lack of comments from angles from me!

point of correction, read my post again, i was ashamed of your post, not you. toshmann has no time to be ashamed of sisters, especially if they are beautifu . . . na so i be

if every argument ends with this line, the earth will be a more prosperous and peaceful place, many people wont bother God about heaven

Lol . . .  I like this Toshmann guy! 
   you may hafta rethink the 'no fighting with women' policy though . . . you're in Ohio, I'm sure you've seen some of the hell our black sisters can bring on a guy 

edoyad:
@paddy_lo, we give a rats a$$ about the case cos the principal actors in the affair could have amounted to something one day after graduating college. They were desirable elements

nig**s in LA on the other probably never amount to anything in life but excons and drug dealers who father numerous children with numerous semi literate women to infest the world with more people like them selves- unwanted elements aka waste of human DNA

Kai!    this is harsh, but not entirely inappropriate.

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=362910.msg5071490#msg5071490 date=1260272111]who gives a rats as*s about this story. . .

dumb white bit*ch,gets herself killed. . . .dumb white girl,clueless west african idi*ot and the stup*id italian boyfriend all get implicated

why is it that black ppl cant understand that these bit*ch*es are nothing but trash,and bring u nothing but trouble

hope that nigga rot in jail

as for knox,she can rot in jail or get hanged for all i care

niggas getting gunned down in philly on the daily,and all u clowns talking about is some dumb white trash[/quote]Niggas be getting gunned down not only in Philly, but also in Boston, in Atlanta, in Chicago, in Harare, in Lagos, heck even in Russia. I haven't seen you open any threads to discuss them.

  But the niggas in Philly are special, because those niggas be getting gunned down by other niggas. Infact they so good they are the #1 city in the country in murdering other niggas. And when the white cops try to investigate, niggas be encouraging no snitchin' on other niggas, yet the majority of all dem niggas be upset at the government for not doing nuthin about dying niggas.

  I wonder, what is wrong with niggas?

toshmann:
i'm having agood time in Ohio, okay, and I have no intention of going to Iran, perhaps you may represent me there. greet ayatolah for me o

Lol God forbid! With my big mouth and stubborness I would not last more than a week, I would soon be stoned to death or beheaded.

chiogo:
LOL I love JeSoul!!!

Have no idea what the case is about. Just wanted to say that ^

Lol . . . as we say in Worcester, Muchos Gracias bonita! lol 

toshmann:
first of all i did not pour out any irritation b/c i have none in me
secondly i did not know u were ''poor'' . . .
thirdly i just noticed u are a lady . . . here's for you . . from toshmann . . . . . . . not irritation

i'm having agood time in Ohio, okay, and I have no intention of going to Iran, perhaps you may represent me there. greet ayatolah for me o

@chiogo
now that i know she is a woman, i like her too . . . and you too . . . toshmann does not fight with women . . . he loves them

Lol, is that so?

I noticed it is quite common in this section (and David is notorious for it) to bring baggage from another discussion from some other board and pour it on a poster in here. I did not even say anything close to critisizing the Italians or their justice system, nor show any disregard for the dead girl's life, nor remotely claim Knox was innocent yet you and David assumed I am of that position because I did not bash along as everyone else did. And you got upset and "ashamed" of me cos I dared to associate myself with America, not so? without knowing who I was or what my background was, or anything else about me.

  But not problemo, I'm sure you were just upset at the arrogance you've seen/heard from others on the issue. And since you don't fight with women, I guess it will be all hugs and kisses from here on abi?   

toshmann:
and definitely not murderers

I couldn't agree more.

i didnt accuse america of a crime, america acted responsibly but not interfering with italian justice system. it is the comments of some pro america individuals that is so irritating, infact it may even be the kind of stuff that breeds anti americanism, some of these dudes are writing off italian justice system, that also convicted an italian for the murder of a briton.

Ehen so you should take your beef to them now and not pour your irritation on poor Jesoul what did I say to write off the Italians? If you go to another man's country be prepared for whatever they dish out to you or else stay in your own.

by the way, good for that foolish guede guy, he got 30yrs, at least 4 extra yrs than his friends. he was fooling around with whiteys. and they are lucky it all hapened in perugia b/c if it happened here in Ohio, he he he he . . . . the lethal injection will be their case. . . and they will be on death row for some yrs worsening their tension

Lol . . . being a black man in Ohio is still better than being one in Iran  .

and btw, stop all this false prophecies on Moss the guy will live to wear at least one ring. Amen.

biina:
Interesting point you raised. I will have to pay more attention next weekend to the 'shaking' of Dallas Cheerleaders as compared to Saints and Colts. Who knows, they may need expert handling

Lol . . . Bawo I'm sure would be willing to offer his services as well for free

biina:
@J'Soul
You guys need to send uncle Bill for counseling, rehab or just simply spiritual deliverance. When will the stubborn goat learn that their is nothing to gain from wantonly going for it on almost every 4th down. Did someone tell him his mother would die if he kicked a field goal or punted the ball?
The guy went for it again against the dolphins and failed. The Pats have only succeeded on 8 of 16 4th downs (50%). The only other teams that have gone for it more than the Pats are: Chiefs 23, Rams 21, Bucs 18, Lions 17, and Shitskins 17. Uncle Bill is in the wrong company.

My brotha I don't understand it oh . . . if he had kicked that FG jeje against the Colts and last night, game sealed.

I wonder though, compared to previous seasons, are the Pats going for it the same amount of times? and its just that this time they are failing to convert and hence its more pronounced?

davidylan:
Even if you were being tried for murder? Sorry but i'm glad the US didnt bother to interfere this time, Americans are not special on the basis of the color of their passport . . . the Italians have laws too and they deserve to be respected. Italy didnt try to interfere when Americans were persecuting the mafia Lords no?

David, regardless of what I was being[b] tried[/b] for, I would be grateful my country showed concern instead of turning their backs like our great Naija does often. I am not saying the govt should disregard Italian law, I'm just saying they should be concerned, period.

  How does this equate to not caring about the life of the girl who died? how?

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It seems in people's flaming hatred for America, they just criticize anything that is remotely supporting of them. America has a duty to americans, not italians or congolese. Why should they be going round fighting for others? does Nigeria do that? does any other country do that? yet when America does it, it is a crime.

Take it easy fellas, take it easy .

I don't see me defending Knox anywhere or celebrating the murder of the poor girl yet you're all over me because I did not jump on the bash america band wagon.

toshmann:
i'm so ashamed of the last post. and wht do u mean by ''wetin we do una?'' you can speak all the americana u want but you remain what you cant hide, a nigerian.

Ashamed? I love Nigeria and yes I am a Nigerian but what has Nigeria done for me? please tell me? where else on the face of the planet can I enjoy the freedoms and opportunities I do here in obodoyinbo? where? where can I as a black women be respected like I am here? back in akwa ibom as somebody's 3rd wife? or in Lagos having to sleep with my boss in order to get a promotion? please let me hia word jor. This is home and I am exceptionally proud of it. Aren't you urself here? why not stay back home?

  I am proud to have both a green and blue passport. Sue me 

If David is muslim, Tiger woods is a virgin.

viaro:
Yes, I was actually trying to imitate that and sound Nigerian. I have a list of local sayings that will soon start appearing in my posts as well. However, what I said to you in one thread is that I'm not familiar with the Yoruba culture. Since then, as is usual with my inquisitive mind, I have tried to do a bit of study. I was chatting about this and wanted to discuss some of these Yoruba things with you among others, and only had a small go at offering answers to someone who was asking a question about the Igbo culture (https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-362219.0.html#msg5057574).

You know that may be the only reservation I had about you being Pilgrim - she used a whole lot more pidgin english than you do.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=363154.msg5067723#msg5067723 date=1260212921]You see its for this reason why I decided to register on NL as a male. . . .People expect you as a female to behave in a certain manner and take everything lying down. well no more!!! There are women amongst us who can rub shoulders with the men when it comes to exhuberence and energy.

I'm tired of pretending. I'm female' sexy and PROUD.[/quote]Lol, exuberance and energy? lol. I dunno why you felt you had something to prove in the first place. I don't see any women lying down in this section, Tpia being an excellent example. In your zeal, it ended being overkill as the caustic nature of your posts has no rival in this section. Kudos though, you definitely went above and beyond.

PastorAIO,
I recall this thread where the beef btw you and Pilgrim started . . . something about some translation in hebrew Lol. Aside from the battles, I think you two would make an excellent couple! 

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=363154.msg5067541#msg5067541 date=1260211540]Since we're all confessing I admit i'm indeed female instead of the "male" Tudór you all know.

So pls respect the lady in the house.[/quote]   it is an impossicant. Such an abrasive nature can only emanate from a condition of too much testosterone.

bawomolo:
sharrap, my bulls are conserving energy for the NBA playoffs.

that's right, we are thinking ahead.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6 . . . is that the official story these days?

Easy on the hatorade people, easy. The anti-americanism in here is suffocating  wetin we do una now?

If I were arrested and being tried in a foreign country I would want my goverment to do anything and everything within its power to help me, instead of sitting back and folding their arms like Naija and those nigerians jailed in China. Abeg kudos to the US of A jor.

Whether or not Knox really did it, only she, her boyfriend and God know for certain.

noetic15:
Jesoul. . .thou has done a brilliantly beautiful job. . . . I could not have added or said anything better.

. . . .I am a multi-trillionaire, so forget mazaje, Deepsight and toneyb's proposal and be my wife . . . .whaooo. U have done a great job on this thread.

Thank you sir . Multi-trillionaire? that one is serious oh . . . lol

viaro:
See what I mean? Nigerians!! Pass judgement, fire the defendant before examining the case!

Oya, Mazaje go and bring the tyre  . Chris and Banom get the match and petrol or kerosene whichever is closer . . .

viaro:
Carried, Jesoul. And thanks for shedding some light on why you think so.

Indeed, the format of my posts, and either diction, give me away as almost the very same person as pilgrim.1. I was initially put off and tended to react in an unfriendly manner when Nairalanders were teasing me about this, but these days I tend to not bother any more and just take it all as a joke.

In the course of all this, I tried to look up a few threads where pilgrim.1 made some posts - and astonishing it was to find many similarities in format, especially on threads discussing tithing.

Another thing, though, I found that she was not very forthcoming when asked about her denomination; on a few occasions where people have asked me about mine, I have wasted no time replying that I'm a Baptist.

Is she polite? I don't know - but one of my first entries to Nairaland should show that viaro wastes no time to blasts discussants who trouble him (not that I feel great doing so anyway).

So, indeed, the similarities are 'cloned', if I may say so. But does that make me into pilgrim.1?  

Exactly. And I'm glad you did some research and saw for yourself lol

 I think I'll reverse my verdict to innocent, for one simple fact: I trust Pilgrim 1000%, and I know she would not lie if she were infact you. One condition sha, you go pay me small money make I do am

Chrisbenogor:
Here is how it works on Nairaland's religion section Court, we bring the charges before you, ask you to plead guilty or not. If you throw in the towel the sordid  scandals ,embezzlement and what have you will be ignored and we move straight to sentencing if not, we go ahead and call our witnesses and then you do your defence  by calling yours and the jurors (other members can call the verdict  ).
By the way a lawyer will be provided for you if you cannot afford one   

I think Deepsight is currently taking ProBono cases 

Ehen if I talk dem go say I talk, if I nor talk dem go say I nor talk 

Infact I hope the Colts get their perfect season, go past a rd or 2, then taste the bitterness of defeat having been so close to perfection.

I will gladly trade Brady's perfect season for a ring. Perfect season boku these days jare, make una carry go 

biina:
e be like say Steelers don send A-40 to emergency/ICU?

Lol . . . A-40 Oh Brother where art thou?    You abandoned the Cowgirls only to be rewarded with this mediocrity from the defending champs.

The Cardinals are possibly the most unpredictable team in the NFL. Looking at them yesterday, one wont believe that the same team lost to the 49ers and Panthers

I don't get it either. Their bi-polarism is on a whole nother level. They pulled this same stunt last year not so? Lost by 100pts to the Pats in the final games and then made a run to the SB . . . I guess anything can happen in the NFL. Even your Colts are one hyperextended Manning knee away from Oakland status

The Cowboys and Romo must be the most overrated team in NFL. Their problem stems from their baby sitting overpaid offensive coordinator, Jason Garrett, who is supposed to be the heir apparent. Their offensive success in 2007 was cos of TO coupled with a weak schedule, and Romo is yet to improve as a QB. Yet, they are always dreaming of SB glory. The earlier they fire the guy, the better.

I wonder who they'll blame this yr now that TO is gone. The cheerleaders? for not shaking it fast enough?

Vairo,

I find you guilty as well. I know Pilgrim well well and the similarities are nothing short of astonishing. The style of writing, the humor, the intelligence, the formatting of posts, the everything . . . waaaaaay too similar, infact identical self.

   Either you have an identical twin sister named Pilgrim somewhere that you don't know about (in which case you may need to have a talk with your parents) or you are infact her.

adebayo201:
u heard bt nt sure

You cannot trust everything you hear on the news oh . . .

platinumnk:
yes na we all went and bought Range Rovers

I would've expected nothing less

nah but seriously . . .