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ThiefOfHearts:
Lol JeSoul what hype were you relying on?

I give the movie a 6. wasnt great. wasnt TOO terrible. just too much CGI and alot of implausible scenes

My own hype    ever since I saw the trailer months ago I've been anticipating. Yeah I think the CGI was overkill. I've seen disaster movies with far less and were more believeable.

Now "The Brothers" is definitely a movie Im waiting for. Love Natalie Portman!

I dunno . . . that movie looks weird.

bawomolo:
it would be pretty selfish for the US to withdraw now after dragging NATO into the war.

Selfishness . . . a disposition intimately known and practised by the US of A. Withdrawal shouldn't be a problem at all . . .

Ibime:
What does Palin know about war? Did they teach her about infantry deployment in her media course which she took seven years to complete at Community college? She should STFU!!! 

Well she may not know much, but I'm willing to bet its more than you know  I mean consider the missiles alone coming from antagonists such as yourself she's been having to shield herself from since she burst on the scene . . .

IMO, it is pointless increasing troop numbers against a faceless Taliban. Do Taliban wear uniform? Sending more troops out there is like sending more sitting ducks to go and get killed by unseen guerillas.

101% agree. I wonder how many dead soliders it will take before we call it quits.

Thats why Republicans need to think twice before starting wars all the time. The Palin-type in congress are always the ones who push for these disastrous wars, then come back to start yarning opata about overspending.
I prefer Bill Clinton's long-range missile policy for dealing with conflict. History will never forgive Republicans for these wars.

That I will agree whole heartedly with.

"We are fighting for what the government said in 1994 [the first democratic elections]," Levy says as he fiddles with his pliers.

"People shall have all the resources free of charge. Water, electricity, schooling and health. After we have voted for them they have changed. It's not illegal."

  abeg more grease to his pliers jare     Those politicians lied to the wrong crowd 

If you are one of the minority in Soweto who chooses to pay a bill and stay legal, your "reward" will be a 45% increase in your tariff for each of the next three years.

I bet pretty soon no one will be paying and Eskom will be placed in a very precarious position: forgo the payments entirely or cut off the entire place.

yeswecan:
We might not get the chance to know what actually happened in 911 attacks, i mean the real story

Let them give an extensive interview to Babara Walters or any other media personality. A sham of a trial is not the avenue for that.

posakosa:
The attorney said the terror suspects would not deny their roles in the attack, but would explain "what they did, and why they did it" – using the trial as a political platform to criticize U.S. foreign policy.

What rubbish from the lawyers. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I thought trials were meant to establish guilt or innocence NOT provide a platform for murderers to give their side of the story.

Deep Sight:
Jesoul - this last post of yours was your 3333rd post. That is a lucky number, make a wish, and i along with the ancient spirits of my element: earth - will grant it to you.

I wish wisdom and understanding in vast proportions be bestowed in increasing amounts upon the posters on this thread. Furthermore, I wish for you Deepsight to be arrested by the Truth, in such fashion and with such impact that your life will be transformed, making you an instrument of God's grace to the human race. Amen.

Palin is right. Obama should not be taking this long to make a decision on Afghanistan - it's either you increase the troops or bring them home, and I'm in full support of bringing them home. The amount of dead US soldiers keeps piling up every day.
and don't forget Palin has a son who is right now in the middle east, I think that lends her some grounds to speak to the issue.

As for Isreal, I think we the rest of the world should just butt out and let they and the opposition wrestle it out. They've been fighting since biblical times, they'll still be fighting 1000yrs from now.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=355035.msg4977335#msg4977335 date=1258929454]Back to Sarah Palin. Obama campaigned in New Jersey and campaigned 3 times in the final week of election in Virginia and his candidates lost woefully. Despite all of these, these same Leftist want us to believe that the election were not a reflection of Obama but the race in NY23 where Palin did not even campaign ones is a reflection on Palin. See how they usually shift the goal post to accomodate their lack of logic?[/quote]

Yeswecan, tell us why Beck is a racist now?

I heard Martha Stewart call Palin a "dangerous person" yesterday . . . ROTFLOL . . . the convicted felon is calling the successful politician "dangerous" LOL . . . wetin person no go hear.

bawomolo:
the possibility isn't eliminated, it just seems highly unlikely considering the inability of man to determine the nature of this deity.

Don't pull a fast one Bawo . . . atheism by definition eliminates that possiblity.

is a deity needed to experience a life-changing moment? i don't think so.

And I agree. My whole point was simply the "quality not quantity".

jagunlabi:
My point is that the very determination demonstrated by atheists not to accept or atleast entertain the possibility of the existence of the supernatural can be seen as a dogmatic box in itself.

I love an honest response such as the above, especially when it goes against your kind. A lot of atheists here on NL woulda gone the other route, fighting tooth and nail, grasping at the straws to try to justify or rationalize it. Kudos to you!

What I wonder is why there is even a trial in the first place. This is a prime example of why certified terrorists should not be captured alive. This is a colossal waste of resources and time.

spikedcylinder:
So she just conjured a fat monk and it appeared? Lol. Prolly some gay stray monk heard her yelling for him to come and he made his way there. Mumu people will not conjure lots of money, they will be conjuring orisisi.

ROTFLOL

^^ 

ThiefOfHearts:
So yea I saw 2012 on Saturday
or am I in the wrong thread?

Lol. Saw it too and it did not live up to the hype for me 

I was also unfortunate enough to see "Taking of Pelham 123" while on a visit . . .  what nonsense, even the pairing of Denzel and Travolta could not legitimize that crap. Pls if you haven't seen it, don't!

Deep Sight:
@ Tudor -

Let's assume he is in fact talking about the Abrahamic God, who is stated to be good, merciful and loving.

What has that God to do with a situation where PEOPLE rise up and begin to kill each other en masse.

Is that the doing of man or of God?

And if you state that its God's fault since he made man - tell me, should he have made us robots? Would you be here today calling yourself an atheist if not for that very free will to decide what to brand yourself as?

[size=14pt]So you excercise your free will, happily, and so does this charlatan called Mr. Atheist - and yet when you see other humans like your selves using that free will in a negative fashion - suddenly - "God did it!"

You will not credit God for the good you see around you, but you will attribute to him the evil you see around you. [/size] Can you not see that it is all the making of humans excersining their FREE WILL, and nothing to do with GOD? ? ? ?

This deserves an award for post of the week. Don't be so hard on Atheist . . . remember God is responsible for his silliness too.

  To the average atheist on NL God doesn't exist, but yet He is somehow still responsible for the evil in the world.

^^^ lol . . . yanno how we go off on tangets all the time. Pardon the diverson or feel free to be a co-conspirator

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=173006.msg4982409#msg4982409 date=1259002051]The speculations of bored people with too much time on their hands lol!!!! Chei.
If our will is located in our spirit, damage to the brain shouldn't affect it, but it does.[/quote]The way I see it, the will and sense of right and wrong is a spirit-thing and our brain helps compute these feelings . . . and if the brain is damaged, it will definitely affect whether or not the person can 'compute' these feelings from their spirit/soul, in a sense, the messages are not recieved or translated right by the brain which in effect leads to shady, atypical behavior in the physical.

  does this make sense? 

She summoned it from its own spiritual dimension.

And here is the simple truth. We are so clueless and unaware sometimes of the things we do/can do . . .

Deep Sight:
I can think of at least one boundary that your reasoning has: the boundary of the possibility of the existence of a Deity.

If you are truly open minded, you will accept that that is a possibility, just like all the other possibilities that you accept.

But dogmatically, you insist that all other possibilities may exist, EXCEPT THAT ONE.

Isn't that contradictory?

No Deepsight, remember, he is free!

manmustwac:
@jagunlabi
i disagree with you because i don't reason that we athiests reason inside an ideological box. The walls of the box have been knocked down the moment u stopped believing in religious dogma. So your reasoning has no boundaries, there are no walls. Its the the theist who believes that an old man created the planet 6'000 years ago who reasons inside the box. And the box is 6000 years in lengh and 6'000 years in width according thier beliefs.

Homeboy, if you declare atheism is what currently floats your boat, lemme break this to u: you've never stopped being dogmatic, you've simply exchanged your religious dogmas for secular ones.

   Because neither the faithful nor the faithless can definitively prove what they[b] believe[/b] to be truth. Like it or not, anyone in possession of any kind of belief system, moral or religious, is in a box . . . and that is not a bad thing.

biina:
More QB problems in pittsburgh. While Ben recovers from a concussion, first backup QB, Charlie Batch will miss next six weeks witha wrist injury. Only availble QB is now third choice, 2nd yr Dennis Dixon (who has had only one pass attempt in NFL)

Kai! lol, a 3rd stringer? this is bad news for the defenders . . .

@bawo
You guys are killing prime time games. Cutler is turning them INTo festivals.

I wonder if Urlacher would've made a difference . . .

@JeSoul
For the first time I am not sure I want the Pats to lose. Hopefully Pats v Saint is almost as good as the colts game (doubt anything can better this season)

hehe . . . I know you've got some New England in you  don't be ashamed to let it out dude, don't be ashamed, we're very loving, and welcoming people up here.

noetic15:
chei. . . . .I cant believe this post captures the atheistic ideological box?

little wonder atheists can die at the word of any scientist . . . , ignorance and dogmas could be easily disguised.

Noetic the one and only!

bawomolo:
I won't consider a religion that can't agree on the contents of it's holy text to be that qualitative (there are different versions of the bible right?). The enormous amounts of Christian sects tells me quantity isn't a problem for them either.

There is one bible - different versions, each pandering to the many different cultures and hence different understandings of a singular text. This is by no means an indictment on the bible itself. It would be by far more accurate to designate blame to the adherents, and not the religion.

You have jumped from one goal post to another. How do you know this power you believe in is life changing? Isn't it possible to have a non-interventionist God? there is no assorted belief, just a disbelief in God and you are on your own.

Didn't shift at for a even a micrometer, just merely pointed out 2 different gaping flaws in the "my theological box is bigger than yours" position. I know there is power and that it is of life-changing quality because I have experienced it personally and have never been the same since. But please, my experience is not truth for everyone else, they'll live out their own walks and decide for themselves what to believe or disbelieve.

Anything wrong with "just a disbelief in God and you are on your own"? . . . depends on who you're asking. I believe the bible and so I say yes, there's something wrong with that, and you obviously believe otherwise. Who's right? well isn't the age-old question . . .

but anyways, my main motive was to disabuse the poster of the false notion that partaking of or being open to an assortment of various ideologies makes one a better human being.

hmm . . . I dunno about this. Its one thing for the likes of Burundi and Rwanda to be joining forces, quite another for a massive country such as ours. We haven't even gotten our own act together, talk far less of venturing a regional amalgation of economies. I don't see this happening anytime soon . . .

Briggs said it was a must-win game . . . what happened now?

Konfessor and Vanitty, my friends, some posts here on NL do not deserve anything more than to be simply ignored.

That your "ideological box" may be bigger is of little to no consequence. It's about quality not quantity.

You may have more "headspace" and "wiggleroom" to fit in a smorgasbord of assorted beliefs or lack thereof, but what is it worth if they be of empty of soulful conviction, puffed up but impotent, characterized by an absence of true life-changing power?

We need to lose this false mentation that implies the more you allow in, the better of a human being you are.

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=173006.msg4980873#msg4980873 date=1258987906]My husband thinks it's a mixture of truth and sly deception. It's fascinating because it feeds our need to know the answer to one of the greatest riddles on earth: What happens when we die? The Bible says little about it. Buddhism says a lot. I have, in fact, been reading Buddhist texts and am ordering the Tibetan Book of the Dead from amazon. If I want to know what the vault of a bank looks like the burglar who robbed it might be able to tell me. I might not like his methods, being of different beliefs, but I'd learn something. I was most amused at the 'There is no Satan' and 'no evil' teaching on the site. There is only human 'error'.[/quote]I am more than inclined to agree. And attempting to weed out the deception would be an exercise in futility. I'm fascinated you're taken to reading those texts, I have never been able to give it much attention without phasing out . . . philosophy remains the only class I hated with a deep passion in college lol  I saw it as endless readings of the musings and speculations of bored people from prior centuries with too much time on their hands. 2 floors down to the Sociology and Psychology departments . . . now that was practical, useful and profitable stuff I could ingest all day long. But yeah mad kudos to you your highness!
 

I've been wondering about free will though, and what it is exactly.

I debated with a cool fellow ttalks recently on the matter of freewill. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-336414.0.html  our brother was convinced God controls us all lol.

We used to think our sense of good and evil resided in the spirit, but perhaps everything's in the brain. People who suffer brain damage suffer personality changes. Some lose the ability to distinguish right from wrong. Some were born with their brains missing one thing or the other, empathy, knowing good from evil, compassion. Many of those are pyschopaths

Or perhaps the brain is simply the computing point? Our brains process and analyze what we see, feel, think etc . . . but our sense of what's right and wrong is much more deep seated - in our spirit or soul or hearts etc The brain helps us understand, but I don't think it originates there.
   

I read the book of an advanced Buddhist mystic, Elizabeth David Neel. Magic and Mystery in Tibet. It was written in the 30s. She was a French scholar. I was most struck by the page where she did a thought experiment. She wanted to summon something from her mind and translate it into physical reality. She decided on the stereotypical Jolly Fat Monk. It took her six months of concentrated thought. And then, there he was. Fat, happy, round-cheeked. Not only was it physically present but others could see him., not just herself. It travelled with them, and appeared to have a will of its own. She sincerely believed she'd created this. I thought, anything's possible. Our thoughts do interact with unseen dimensions. And then there was a passage where she says the creature's face lost its fat and became lean, not of her doing, and that its eyes when it looked at her were mocking and faintly malignant. So much deception, in almost every religion. And our human tendency to deceive ourselves don't help none either.

Well I wouldn't necessarily write her off as cuckoo . . . we know very well about the powers and principalities and the spiritual dimension interacting with ours. I'm reminded . . . there's this incredible expose of actors hollywood who admitted very proudly they do not act of their own power, but are infact, 'inhabited' or possessed if you will when they act. And that they have 'guides' and 'spirits' that accompany and help them . . . chilling stuff. I'll try to find the video series on youtube . . .

I was fascinated to read about Christ in Tibetan literature. Why does every major religion feel compelled to recognise him? He's practically the only spiritual head of a religion that gets this treatment. I like it.

Lol my sister we know why 

Are people falling for the Atlanta smokescreen? they cannot and will not keep this pace up. It's one thing to be an early regular season gunner, its another to maintain it come march/april and quite another to carry it over into the playoffs.

See these Celtics allowing the NY Sucks to take them to OT. Garnett may have had the game-winner but he still has no lift and pop back in his knee yet . . . it may take all season before he gets anywhere close to his usual self.

. . . and Tracy McGrady's days are numbered in Houston. He could help a contender if he's willing to come off the bench as a supersub.

bawomolo:
doyin - i hope you are ready to witness the wrath of jay cutler

Wrath witnessed!   and determined to be of extremely low potency.
 

bawomolo:
how about them steelers

Lol . . . A-40 take heart, Superbowl champs statistically do not even make the playoffs in the following season . . . unless of course you're the patriots   

biina:
Poor Denver, the nightmare continues.Chargers 32-3 Denver. Giants v Broncos on Thursday. 5th straight loss for Denver? Their hopes for making the playoffs is dieing slowly.

That scoreline is inexcusable for a team of Denver's potential.

Vantage Point review:

A movie about an assasination plot to kill the president of the US while he gives a speech in Spain. We're shown how the events unfolded from the viewpoints or vantage points of I think 7 or 8 different people including a tourist, a reporter, the terrorist, the secret service etc. Dennis Quiad is a SS agent, a hero who had taken a bullet for the president earlier and his fellow agents were concerned about his condition and if he was ready to be back at the job.

Anyways, the movie shows the events from one viewpoint, then rewinds to the begining of the movie and shows it from another viewpoint, rewinds again, then shows from another viewpoint and so on.

Now this was a cool and creative way to tell a story, never before done I think but by the 4th rewind it became irritating, by the 5th, annoying, by the 6th and 7th I was close to throwing my popcorn and drink at the screen in severe aggravation. And I was not alone in my fury, each time the movie would 'rewind' the entire theatre would erupt in loud, unmistakable, unified protest with cries of agony "oh gosh not again!". The writers shoulda kept down the number of rewinds - it woulda made the movie so much much more palatable.

However once we got thru all the vantage points it wasn't so bad. It ended with some cool action/chase scenes and the audience didn't leave too angry lol.

Overall I rate 60%, it woulda been slightly lower but they get points for at least attempting to be different and creative.

Max dear hope you had a lovely weekend

I was poised on friday to finish up a 30 min exp, return to my desk and have lunch while reading thru those links . . . 4 hours and numerous troubleshooting attempts later I emerged from duty and bolted for the exit before something else went awry. and I'm hardly cyber on the weekends so . . .

anyways, I looked through a couple of stories and yeah some are quite interesting indeed. The thing is because of the times we live in, I can scarcely take such spiritual accounts beyond face value . I don't know if they are dreams and visions that are the fruit of someone's hyperactive imagination.

However if it were to be coming from a trusted source that I personally know and am convinced to be indeed of the faith, I would believe without much reservation. I have a few tales myself . . . but lemme go and peep some more of the stories.

pitzone:
guys . thank you all for your support.

but as yoiu can see . my mom is gone .

she has left us .

i am heart broken right now .

just pray for her soul pls and us that are still living .

many thanks

My brother, like I first mentioned, no matter what happens, it is well with you and yours. I leave you with this scripture which is so powerful in times such as these: Romans 8:28 "And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose." God is able to bring about good and light from even the darkest of times and He will do so in your life. Amen.

Vicjustice:
[size=20pt]UPDATE: 19/11/2009[/size]


After much delays and negligence, UPS eventually sent me an email with a "Claim Form" attachment in which they asked me to fill the "lesser value" of the lost contents of my package.

It was a difficult and unascertainable assignment since the (main) lost items (being travel documents) do not really have financial values; so i was hesitant to fill the form until i had my solicitor's advice. It's regrettable that my solicitor can do little or nothing from Ireland since the shipment contract was not signed in Ireland, but in Nigeria. However, acting on advice of my Irish solicitor, i filled in the Claims Form entering the costs of replacement documents and then sent it by fax to London. Meanwhile, a solicitor in Nigeria is preparing a law suit for breach of contract and all other losses, damages, stress, expenses and inconveniences that UPS has caused us.

Now, after sending back the claim form together with 17 pages of other supporting documents with my passport visas and endorsed pages, i received no acknowledgement regarding its receipt (it was as if UPS staff only care about the goods and services that are on course, and nobody cares much about the ones that have gone wrong) it's so bitter and frustrating that i had to put pressure on them in order to make them act on my case. It was on one of my pressure calls (last week) that a UPS staff advised that they received my claim forms and letters, and that they would respond to it this week. I waited all week until i rang them today, and another silly woman told me bluntly that UPS is not oblige to give me update of the situation and that they would respond only to the sender in Nigeria.

"Very well, have you given him the update yet?" I questioned.

"Like i said before, i don't have to explain to you what we are doing with our customer." She insisted.

I understood that she was not ready to listen to me, and that she was the kind who wanted to stick to her supposed rights and beliefs and would not want to know that her other colleagues have been corresponding with me: her behaviour made me assume that UPS might have issued the settlement to the sender. But a call to the sender in Nigeria confirms that there he has been left out of the whole issues since the beginning

this is just sad. Vic I'm sorry you've had to endure all this drama, please keep us updated on how it all eventually plays out.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=355035.msg4966022#msg4966022 date=1258738194]mmmmuuah!

At a place and time where the "dumb" and "stupid" Palin is transforming the political landscape . . .  one has to wonder if her critics truly understand the meaning of dumb and stupid. The woman is seeking political credits, not institutional schorlarship. . . so far with her maneuverings she has proven very adept and shrewd.[/quote]Well said Negro. It will no longer suffice for opponents to simply dismiss her as irrelevant, if anything the media blitz has proven just the exact opposite. Prez, you hear?

Those yet to line up behind her presidential aspiration are doing so in response to mainstream criticism. . .and not because of their desbelief in her capabilities to be a President. If mainstream change its view. . .those individuals will likewise fall in line behind mainstream. Again, . . the case of the shepherd and the sheep!

Perhaps. I have liked her since she popped on the scene. I personally don't think she should be aspiring for the presidency, at least not yet. As much as I like her, she's deficient in many necessary areas required to occupy such an office - but no more than our current CIC btw .

davidylan:
Its the ratings!

No one fears her at all . . . in a general election even Mitt Romney will crush her unless its a republican primary where the unhinged fringe would vote for a pretty face on an empty skull.
I laughed when i watched her response on what to do about Iran's nuclear ambitions on Hannity the other day and she was saying we shld go tell Ahmedinejad that no one will "stand for this again" . . . i'm sure she things Ahmedinejad is just like Piper. Not to forget the fact that she thot an Iraqi oil embargo would force Iran from building weapons.

She makes for good comic relief . . . and with a 24 h news cycle that just has to come up with something, anything . . . we are condemned to seeing her face on TV all the time.

I don't think so anymore. The fascination and obsession with Palin is more than just comedic. There is a real, solid, concerted effort on the media's part to follow her every move and subsequently find means to discredit her. This is more than ratings, they are afraid she possesses enough sway with the average american, sway that could sway elections.

[quote author=Mad_Max link=topic=173006.msg4965298#msg4965298 date=1258732448]That is so cool. When I played it as a console game it really was interesting. Different irons shoot the ball different distances; a lot of calculation goes into each shot. Never tempted to take it up for real or watch. Who won? Tiger Woods. Okay.[/quote]Lol There's def a lot of 'calculation' that goes into it . . . and uhm money. It's quite an expensive hobby to maintain so I probably won't keep playing. And if you're a woman, there are two reasons why we will not ever be able to swing the club and play as well as men golfers.

It's about 8:30pm on a thursday night. Only another half hour till my fav show Fringe comes on, so I need to pass the time. I tune into CNN and the 'Headline/Lead Stories' news section comes up . . .

  "Sarah Palin sends out tweet from new account"

I check to see if I'm still watching CNN or the channel had changed to 'Inside Hollywood' or 'Extra' or 'Entertainment tonight' . . . nope, its still on CNN, the worldwide leader in news.

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Even for me who likes Sarah Palin a lot (but please don't run for president) this recent hysteria is nauseating and is on par with the Michael Jackson mania few months ago. They say they hate her, she's dumb and stupid and poses no threat as a candidate since she has no real grasp on politics and can see Russia from her backyard - YET - they cannot stop talking about her, cannot stop covering her every move and word.

  She's a populist and I think deep down, behind the vitriolic coverage, the simple truth is they fear her.