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By the way Biina what did you do to this girl?    https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-358471.160.html#msg5028760

biina:
Predictions for Pats v Saint?  (we all know where J'Soul stands )

(Sorry J'Soul) I am going with the Saints as I think the matchups favor them.
Putting pressure on Brady limits the deep threat of Moss, leaving them to worry about Wes, and Sharper is one of the better safeties around.
On the other hand, the Saints have a better running game that makes play action quite effective. Unlike the familiarity that Belichick has with the Colts, he hasnt seen a Saint team like this (last time brooks was QB for Saints and no Sean Payton), and Payton is not a bad play caller too. All the saints have to do is execute.
On the 2 times Brees played for the Chargers against the Pats in 2002 and 2005, he shredded them, and  his now a much better QB.

Apology accepted lol. You were right.

biina:
Pats 17-38 Saints

Great performance from the saints against the Pats, but am stiil not convinced that they can get past the vikes in the NFC. The Pats defence was pathetic and they rarely got to brees.
With AP, the vikes can keep Brees and his weapons on the sideline, Favre gives good support with the passing game, and the vikings have a great rushing defence with an ok passing defence that is able to pressure the QB. It should be a great game when both teams hopefully meet in the NFC championship.

Oga you sabi analyze no be small lol.
Men, if not for I like these Saints eh . . .      I think they can. You see all the categories of defense? they're 1st in every major category. They will pressure Favre and he will revert to his usual self and throw INTs. They only need put together a handful of solid drives, put enough points on the board and let their D carry them to the promised land. As for Peterson, he could be the x-factor, but I don't think he alone is enough.

toneyb:
The world is coming to an end


See where the problem lies, You agree with him when he assults islam and moslems but when the same is done to you its a problem. Davidylan is not only brash and harsh on the religious section alone, He is every where even on the political front. There was a time a video of Jamaican woman whose grand child was stolen by a Nigerian doctor was put there in one of the other sections and his only comment was that the woman looks and talks like a monkey. I am only trying to show you what a very poor personality he has.

 
Not that I care about his very poor personality, I have since learn to talk to him in the only language he understands as others like mazaje have noted.

Ah ah now Toney, I already said it is a problem for all of us, we can all do better. I was just trying to say his abrasive responses were returns for the usual provocations here in this section - and likewise, Abuzola's recent rampage is revenge for what he believes are insults to islam - and honestly I wouldn't know what goes on in there, I don't go there.

toneyb:
No problem I will take it really easy, easy like sunday morning


This is very true


This is another correct statement.

There is no lie in this statement

a christian and an atheist agreeing?    what is this world coming to? 

Deep Sight:
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David i must single out as the most trashy talker, reminiscent of a motor park tout or agbero. He is singularly the most insulting and boastful, has no ethics, etiquette or gentlemanliness whatsoever, is unspeakably childish and of mediocre intellect and unlike Noetic does not make any attempt to apologize or tone down. I think he is anything but a christian, the lousiest ambassador for Christ ever.

I only bother to state these because of his extremely and excessively distasteful nature: i do not believe in casting stones - normally i would reserve my comments.

I'm not trying to defend David (or maybe just a little), but I will say he's sometimes brash and harsh mostly here in the Religion section because of the constant recycled assault on christianity and honestly sometimes I share his anger and frustration. He's very direct and sometimes sarcastic but he's also shown he has a fantastic sense of humor. I recall he's promised in the past to try to do better.

  He is very intelligent though . . . I have butted heads with him in the politics section but I still like him a lot and I hope he does better in future exchanges he may have with you and others in here.

Of all the atheists that commented on this thread, only Krayola and Bawo exhibited the appropriate response. Two of the coolest dudes in this section.

@topic, No2 you're looking for trouble again 

toneyb:
Thou hast been fine, Thou hast been very busy lately.

I feel you jare, just take it easy 

I retract that statement .

I already know say you be correct boy 

The same could be said of the Christians judging from their post on the Islamic section, Moslems see it only as vitriolic, bitter and pure angry towards them and their religion. A simple question of who wrote the koran might generate a lot of passions from the moslems. The Christians equally post vile and vitriolic comments here. Example davidylan and neotic there others also. The blame goes both ways. Noetic even acknowledge the pure spiteful and vile nature of his post against the atheist and moslems and apologized.

On that you are right. Personally I love Noetic, David, Osisi and others and I wish they would tone it down several notches sometimes. But honestly the most horrible of languages I have witnessed has come from a few atheists.

This is where we will disagree. Has any atheist ever insulted you here on NL? I bet the only persons atheist insult are davidylan and neotic ever asked yourself why? The "bitterness" is being spewed on all sides.

I wouldn't say insulted but oftentimes the tone and vile quality of the language used in the discussion was enough to make me exit. But you're right, we can all do a better job of being civil towards each other.

  . . . but the thing is NL is more 'fun' and sees more traffic when we're all fighting against each other. Abi no be so? lol

Max, you might be interested - https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-358722.0.html

Well if the moral of the thread is "we are not always or frequently given the true and whole story by the government" then I wholeheartedly agree.

[quote author=Abu-Safwan link=topic=359745.msg5028435#msg5028435 date=1259667674]I trust Guillaume Dasquie, the co-author of “Bn Laden: The Forbidden Truth” when he said in an interview: “9-11 was not just a mad act, it was a political act meant to create a good ground for a big war in all Central Asia. I trust david duke when he said: "Bush says we must strike down terrorists wherever they are in the whole world, but he has shared tea and crumpets with Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, one of the world’s leading most brutal and bloodthirsty terrorists. Sharon committed a number of crimes against humanity, among them the massacre of 2,000 men, women and children in the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in Lebanon. Mr. Bush did not strike Mr. Sharon, instead he toasted him."[/quote]Sorry, but surely, one cannot really take seriously anybody who utters this kind of smoke as a point remotely worthy of consideration by rational people.

naliakar:
That is a lie. You would not be living in a communist state as you do now, would you?

*scratching my head* I don't get it Naliakar . . .


and @topic, how would our increased involvment in local politics be of any profit to the motherland? I know there are many many young people just like us back home, much smarter and more industrious. and I know oftentimes they frown at those coming from 'abroad' and telling them 'what to do'. Or is this no longer true?

^Toneyb my dude! how hast thou been?
 

toneyb:
Jesoul this assumption is entirely false.

Entirely false Toney? common now, I know you know that ain't true.

Moslems believe all the Christains that visit the Islamic religion forum completely hate allah and mohammed, but Christians do not see it that way, Christians go there to point out the flaws in the moslem hypothesis by mocking allah, mohammed and pointing out the obvious flaws of the moslem beliefs but the moslems do not see it that way at all. all they see is that any body that questions their belief is "hating" them, their god and their way of life which is not necessarily the case. This is the same thing that you the Christian do all the time, when atheist mock your own beliefs and point out the ridiculous assertions you bandy as truths. Let me use a quote from Richard Dawkins book the god delusion. Here is what he says in the book about the Old testament god.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."

This will sounds pretty hateful to the believer since his beliefs and life revolves around believing in the hypothesis that the god of the bible is loving and kind, but expressing a hateful point of view isn't the intent. He uses that particular phrase and phraseology to humorously point out that the Christian god isn't strictly peace and love but the idea of the christian god comes from a somewhat less benign tradition and culture. This is very true because the expressed nature of the god of the Old Testament is indeed demonstrably similar to the way he characterizes him by means of a simple reading of the book. That doesn't mean that saying such things demonstrates hatred at all even though you believers have been wired and conditioned to believe that who ever questions your belief or points out to the flaws of your hypothesis hates your god and you guys in general, but that is NOT the case at all. I know you guys will all love to believe that atheist hate your god because that belief it self gives you guys some sense of comfort. Go visit the middle east most of the moslems there believe that christians hate them and their god because of the way christains are constantly criticizing them and their way of life.

Toney I have zero problem with opposition to my faith. Infact I find these challenges profitable because they allow those of us of faith to think critically and consider things we might not originally consider, discuss issues we might otherwise shy away from.

  Now that being said, there is a very fine line between what you stated above and the extremely acidic, caustic, vitriolic and downright deplorable nature of the posts of most NL atheists towards religion and in particular christianity. Not all, but most. For instance I don't recall seeing any posts from[b] Bawo [/b] that have been provocative in nature, which is why I will jump at any chance to engage with him, but others seem to be locked in a tight competition with each other, seeing who can post the most vile in quality and frequency.

  I have no issue with anyone who is anti-religion, what is unfortunate is the bitterness and  they seem to carry around and spew at any and every opportunity.

Funny Nigerian Football Cartoon Clip https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-359281.0.html

Some cool guys who put together a very short and funny animation, they could use some exposure by being in the front page

. . . fake documents, you would know a lil something about fake documents . . . no vex I just dey play with you

MrCrackles:
Original birth certificates for where. . .
All you will get is sworn affidavits, forged birth certificates and shit. . .

You would know a lil something about that huh Mc? 

ROTFLOL . . . lol hilarious. Thanks for posting Adam, please more more more!!!

It ain't right that scrubs like the Cards will make the playoffs and I agree the Jags truly have no business in the playoffs.

furacao:
11 and 0 is no dream o, Meanwhile, it wasn't so long ago the Patriots had a perfect regular season and got to the Superbowl, and there was a Manning involved at the end of that story too.

  this joy will soon be turning to manning mourning    let the people say Amen

Gosh man. I didn't know there was an NFL stream on Nairaland. Excellent!!

Dude we have been here for the past 3 or so seasons . . .

[quote author=pres-elect link=topic=356747.msg5024603#msg5024603 date=1259604723]if by any volcanic accident tayo agrees with me, i'll change my mind immediately . infact if tayo says his name is tayo, i'm ready to open a thread to challenge that
there is no way jesoul/tayo and pres-elect can agree on a thread. if that happens nairaland loses its importance [/quote]Lol, now that's the Prez I know and like 

bawomolo:
well George should have though about that before handling two wars at one time.

the troop increase is about to be approved by the way

A very unfortunate development. My brother is part of the army, fortunately not with the marines but still, I feel as though someday I may get a phonecall bearing the worst possible news.

U sure? I thought they said "Africa was the only continent that didn't flood"?

bawomolo:
wow and they just fired their coach. No one can be intentionally this bad.

Frank was simply the scapegoat . . . this can happen, the Celtics lost 18 in a row 3/4yrs ago when Pierce went down and there was no one else of significance on the team.

thanksgiving was fun o

Of course now lol when your only role was limited to the excessive consumption of the food to the point of passing out abi na lie?

ThiefOfHearts:
no be oyinbo that do "turkey" as well

abeg I had enough turkey dinners at church and work before the day.

lol well depends on how you do the turkey. Deep fried vs that whitish thing that is barely cooked

stillwater, you're no serious

what's great about knowiung the only people who survived were rich elitist twits?

Lol well at least, all of Africa survived . . . more than enough poor to balance the equation .

mazaje:
Again sorry for your lost but that is NOT a reason to become an atheist. . . .People face a lot of tragedy ALL the time. . .There are MANY stories of christian missionaries who died in ghastly motor accidents on their way to evangelize and were burnt beyond recognition all over the internet. . .Atheism is not being a state of anger with god/gods but a lack of belief in god/gods. . .Keep up your new faith if that will give you the happiness you need. . . . I wish you all the best. . . . .

Au contraire. On NL atheism is unquestionably and undeniably defined as being in a state of anger with God, christianity, islam, and any and every thing religous/spiritual.

Ikomi:
Lets wait for him and see what he would come up with. He is quite logical.

Ayatollah leave Tayo now, he's my foremost comrade in this forum of liberals and democrats 

ThiefOfHearts:
I had chicken and pasta. Turky ko. Tolotolo ni.

I intend on seeing "The Brothers" this weekend. I love Natalie Portman!

Chicken and pasta ke? Na onyinbo house you go do thanksgiving?

That Dixon kid is not too shabby. Washington or Oakland could use his services 

Meanwhile Titans win their 5th straight . . . perhaps old man Kerry qb was the problem? lol.

Jaguar we meet tonight in a clash of titans 

millco88:
https://www.2010-super-bowl.com/Miami_Dolphins/Miami_Dolphins_logo.gif

What is this tilapia abi na mackarel we're seeing here? 

Nets are 0-17 lol . . . they may win against NY in a few games but if they don't they could easily go 0-30, their upcoming schedule is brutal!

bawomolo:
as long as ron artest isn't close by

hehe even Artest would think twice before coming close once he sees my bodyguard . It was more like 14 rows off the floor  but nevertheless cool.

Chiogo!  hope you and Bawo and everyone else had a fantastic one.

chiogo:
@JeSoul, I'm jealous. I never get any tickets You're lucky they won albeit by only 2 pts. I'll be pissed if they lost, wasting a whole ticket. lmao.

Only caught few glances of that game 'cause I had just gotten home, so I missed seeing you on the screen.

Girl I tell you, it was a nail bitter. Didn't pay $25 parking, $8 tasteless hotdogs to be rewarded with a loss. Those sixers have some real weapons! kept dropping threes like it was going out of fashion. Rasheed has played better past 2 games, but at one point the crowd was booing him. He is so slow and sluggish someone needs to smack some hustle into him.

Celtics don't have the edge and swagger they started the season with, though Paul is having an exceptional year, no one else is really playing that well.

Where are all these people? still overfed from turkey?

semid4lyfe:
In Vantage Point, Director Pete Travis wastes no time on the gradual build up that is common with most action movies as he starts on a 'high' and ends on a 'high'.

The plot revolves around an Anti - terrorism conference to be addressed by the American President, coverage of this conference by an International News Organization, and the plans of a terrorist organization to assasinate the President. It also gives a peak into the innerworkings of the Secret Service and the protocols involved in protecting the president.

The story is told from different viewpoints of different people and the viewer only gets the full picture towards the end.

The movie starts off on a fast pace and this is maintained till the end as there is no lull in between. It's action-packed, fast-paced, unleavable and totally believable. The high point for me was the unconventional way in which the story was told.

Low points - Can't think of any except perhaps it's 'unbelievable' a secret Service agent would go rogue. Those 'guys' are the most vetted and trusted IMO.

In summary, it's an excellent film. I'll rate it a 9/10.

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=262653.msg5003371#msg5003371 date=1259288460]Exceptionally well done movie.
The repeating from different "vantage points" was uniquely executed.
This concept highlighted the fact what you see and understand from one viewpoint can be totally different in reality, when seen by another character.
The plot twists were also unexpected and in today's movies like 'Twilight Saga' or 'Spiderman 13', unexpected is something rare.

This movie delivers action from the start with a well thought out plotline.
Every dozen or so minutes, the vantage point changes and each view reveals more about the actual events.
You find yourself accusing one person just to realise it was not actually him.
Vantage Point is nail-biting and edge of your seat stuffs. Do NOT plan a trip to the fridge.

I rate this movie 95%. One of the best action movies of 2008.[/quote]      no way . . .       hmmm na wah oh, are we talking about the same Vantage Point? 90%? 95%? those types of ratings should be reserved for movies of Matrix-esque quality.

What's going on in this thread? first I'm agreeing with Ibime, then Prez agreeing with me etc . . . the end must be near 

bawomolo:
if you do that, goodluck getting countries like japan and Britain to contribute more troops to Iraq. Obama would be fooling to burn such bridges with an abrupt withdrawal.

People need to accept we are stuck with Afghanistan and even pakistan to a certain extent.

I would rather burn bridges than burn the lives of soldiers. Bridges can be rebuilt, lives cannot be restored. We are not going to make any significant and more importantly[b] lasting[/b] progress in Afghanistan. Why continue to throw cups of water on a raging inferno?

"Four martini minimum" Lol . . . those were a lil bit risque for someone of her status. She should not have allowed people to be taking pictures of her getting loose like that . . . lol

naliakar:
It is strange and a bad sign, that Nigerians' capacity for political agency to change their leadership has been woefully reduced to wishing their current leader dead. Yaradua would be useful for Nigeria alive and witness to a peaceful transition in the next elections if lessons for posterity on how to change leadership are to be inculcated.


His predicament and the speculation thereupon is as much a Nigerian as well as a foreign political issue hence my desire to locate this thread here. besides, it is time Nigerian whose comfort in recluse diaspora locations actively engaged in local politics. Hear me Je soul , Tayo and the rest,

Oga my knowledge of Nigerian politics is shamefully pedestrian . I recoil from speaking on issues I am not well informed of so rather than expose my unfortunate ignorance of local politics, I just sit back and let my elders educate me.

[quote author=lai-lai link=topic=344420.msg4992149#msg4992149 date=1259142949]pls, can somebody borrow the nets a win, I believe that any 5 of us here would have gotten a win by now that's is if y'all got hoops sha at least I know chiogo's gat[/quote]Lol . . . I am willing to lend them one of the Celtics wins 

NBA NEWS: Has anyone heard about the allegation that it is now confirmed 13 referees were involved in the betting scandal and not only Donaghy? a huge development for the NBA. I heard it on the local Fox station last night BUT I have been all over ESPN and NBA.com today trying to find the story but it is nowhere . . .

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  In other not so national news, anyone watching the Celtics/Sixers game tonight . . . look for me in my black Pierce #34 jersey, 4 rows back off the floor, somewhere underneath basket Close to the Celtics bench  I landed some sweet tickets yesterday! 

Ibime:
Im shocked . . . . . gimme 5!

Lol . . . see this yeye boy Infact sef I give you 10