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Happy Independence to Ghana.
May you continue to grow & develop and become a force of a nation to be reckoned with around the world.

[quote author=Tayo-D link=topic=789683.msg10337142#msg10337142 date=1330986709]@JeSoul,
Body,Soul and Spirit are still together, hence we thank God.[/quote]That's what we like to hear. We thank God indeed. May that cup of yours continue to overflow

I will chastising myself if I weigh heavily on you if you don't vote tomorrow. Afterall, I missed the MN caucauses as well. Anyway, I am on my way to Madison (relocating in a few weeks), so I am more interested now in making sure we retain our action governor there. MN is a lost cause!

Lol. Wisconsin? Interesting. Whatever helps with retaining ones sanity abi? lol. I don't know who to vote for I really don't like any of the options, as if it matters . . . Romney was always going to be the nominee barring any scandals.

I swear to God that I believed someone hacked into your account when I read that. Welcome home.

hehe na frustration cause am.

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[quote author=Kay-Dee link=topic=789683.msg10337652#msg10337652 date=1331002529]. . . . . . and your point is ? That my sentence is not well structured or that Bill Maher is not ? . There's nothing wrong with what I typed. Whether or not he is, is another point for argument.[/quote]. . . you miss the point, my fault. Saying Maher is an independent is like saying Bill clinton is a virgin. Unless the political definition of an "independent" has changed recently.

^lol. No wahala. Thanks!

People people . . . please please no tussling on this thread.

I am aware Joagbaje has used his full name in the past and posted links that lead to his identity . . . BUT he reserves the right to ¹change his mind and ²request no one use his full/real name on the forum. This is perfectly within the forum rules.

I myself over the course of many yrs on NL have posted a link or two that has shown my real identity to the people I was talking with - that doesn't mean I want my real name used all over the section all the time. I kindly implore you all, kunle & my in-law, please respect his wishes in this regard. Thanks.

diluminati:
Ok oh madam don talk wetin ekaette go do now? na to follow suit

Lol. Thanks!

Goshen & Joagbaje, thanks to you both as well.

Joagbaje:
@jesoul
Thank you for your kind response on the thred by illuminati. I observe of late she has been following me about on Nairaland and getting personal with me. She is getting too personal and getting private. I will appreciate if this new thread of hers is deleted not just locked . I want to be adressed as joagbaje and I know she did that so that when my name is googled ,her rubbish will show it's either the title is changed or the thread deleted.

this is the link

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-886109.0.html

Thank you

No problem sir. I have instructed her to modify/remove your name from the title/posts (that will actually be better than deleting the thread in regards to search engines like google). If its not done in a little bit I will delete the thread from the section and ask the admin to remove it permanently.

diluminati:
Hi Ma Jesoul, no one is attacking Pastor Joe here. I even addressed him accordingly as Pastor Joe Agbaje, the Joe for Joseph right? Thats who he is, so i'm not attacking his person.

But that is just by the way side, the more important part is for Him to explain to us how Jesus sold some stuff so we can put this matter to rest.

My sister, from my understanding, he simply wishes to be addressed as his user ID "Joagbaje" and not pastor ____ and I think that is a reasonable request & is within the forum rules. I think all of us will not be happy to have our real names being used openly. Can you kindly modify the title, and your posts that have his full name and use just his username? or else I will have to remove the topic. Thanks girl.

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goshen360:
@ JeSoul,

As much as I respect your words and saying above and also read Joagbaje's comment to you (You know where am talking about). This is my personal contribution here to you and everyone.

Something is definitely at stake when Christians come out in the open in front of the whole world and say things in error or say heresy. Honestly, it goes a long way. Even if diluminati had not asked Joagbage to explain his statement, me and some others had confronted Joagbaje to explain to us from the scriptures where he came about Jesus definitely sold some stuffs. A simple statement from joagbage that he made such statement in error will definitely kill this thread. We are all human and we can still speak some things in error. He doesn't seems to agree he was properly addressed and yet, he sent you private mail. I do not have personal issues with him but our faith is at stake sir with such statement from Joagbaje.

My brother, let me first say I appreciate the way you've handled yourself in the forum of recent, very mature and respectful and I apreciate that a lot. As per the issue, its not about silencing the opposition or allowing 'heresy' to go unchalleneged. This is simply about keeping the discussions impersonal and leaving personal names, attacks or issues out of it. I am sure Joagbaje will be happy to answer your queries if you simply left his real name out of it.

Joagbaje didn't send me a private mail, its on the mod thread for all to see. I've been noticing people attacking him personally recently and that is against forum rules and is simply not in good taste. We can make our points with respect and maturity. Thanks again and stay blessed.

Easy for McCain to say. I can guarantee the vast majority of Americans do not want the US involved in another war.

Inasmuch as I (and many of you) don't necessarily agree with Joagbaje, please do not let this thread/topic denegerate into a personal attack on him or the thread will be locked (and assuming he chooses to participate self). As much as I don't agree with a lot of his ideaology I also don't appreciate the way many people have chosen to address/respond to him in this section.

We can all be respectful of each other regardless of our views. Thanks in advance.

[quote author=Kay-Dee link=topic=789683.msg10295867#msg10295867 date=1330484194]Bill Maher is an independent[/quote] *gasps* Sorry, I almost choked on my pasta lunch  . The arrangement and progression of nouns & adjectives in this very short quote is of capital offence quality. Kaydee my dear brother, did you just call Maher an 'independent'?    please confirm that was a slip of the keyboard

Uncle Tayo how body now? Massachusetts primary is tomorrow. I'm not sure if its worth the 3 minute drive from my house to city hall . . . what do you think sir? And oh, please disregard the previous statement I made in regards to voting for Mr Obama due to displeasure with the GOP alternatives . . . I was obviously on something that day events of the last few weeks have certainly set me straight.

Frosbel dearest, you didn't answer me again on the mod thread and you have come again . . . Can you tell us why this topic doesn't belong in the Foreign affairs section (or maybe maybe in the Islam section)? Don't make me report you to your wife oh

I can't imagine anyone else being my best friend but my husband. What I can tell my closest girlfriend is not even up to 10% of what I can share comfortably with my hubby. We talk, laugh, joke about practically anything & everything. From intimate 'female' issues to who scored the last goal on his Inter milan, from gossiping about the lady that just walked by with huge chests (lol) to dissecting the plot of our favorite TV series, from gleefully informing me when he gets home about the long time he spent in the men's room/toilet that afternoon (eewww! lol) to 'honey, you put too much pepper in the stew again' lol. No topic is off-limit or taboo . . . infact self na that one we dey talk pass lol. My hubby is my best buddy and always will be!

 All in all, communication lines must be way way more open between spouses than between anyone else.

Please continue on this previously existing thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-883666.0.html "Holy Spirit Asked Me To Kill My Niece –suspect"

Enigma:
@Jesoul

I've just been told off by 'you know who'; he says I was looking for the "stuff" that Jesus "definitely sold" in the wrong places!

That to make up: if we can find Jesus Himself "definitely selling" it at present, he would like to get you this: http://www.loveworldshop.com/product.php?id_product=38

The only problem is that Christ Embassy and Loveworld people will have to show us Jesus "definitely selling" it first.

Not that either me or 'you know who' is stingy ---- truthfully and honestly!

Awwwwww . . . abeg no scripture reference/proof needed for that one at all! His motive is on point so no wahala at all Or if push come to shove, me I can find a bible passgae or two that I can panel beat and use as justification two can play that game abi no be so?

Abeg you people should stop harrassing Joagbaje my bestest friend

Enigma:
^ You wan contest me?

Abi, you know how much the thing cost me erm love offering it take to get am?

I no contest you at all at all   . . . I know say you even complete the look with good news sandals for leg and power pass power sacred ring for finger

 A thread of the most ridiculous things being sold in the name of religion would be quite entertaining.

^Enigma why are you doing shakara for us now? We all know you're tying your very own authentic Jerusalem woven holy land approved 'prayer shawl' around your neck right now abi na lie?
https://shop.bestchristianshop.com/images/1234402289971531488019.jpg

Isn't XL your size? 

^abeg leave MMW alone jor 

The only thing 'religious' about the topic is the presence of the bibles and it ends there. Nothing biblical or religious was addressed, but rather the coded terrorist message in it and the hypocrisy of Bin-Laden in having them in his possession (I read the entire thing, as you know I enjoy politics/foreign affairs). All the other variables are thoroughly & completely political in nature. Please show me where I'm getting this wrong sir. Thanks.

Frosbel how you dey now?
the topic belongs in the Foreign Affairs section and (the previous one you opened) has been moved there. Pls fwd any questions to the mod thread. Thanks.

^Good kweshion.

diluminati:
Its not a new thing that Goshen and Joeagbaje are on opposite divides regarding certain doctrines in the bible. Take a look at major topics on this board and read their views. These two are for now the most authoritative voice on christianity on this board, maybe till another one comes along. But their views differ on major issues in christianity and i know people read their comments to know which is right and wrong.

Erhmmm . . . having the loudest voice in the section does not make you the most 'authoritative' - it only makes you the most active poster.

^hmm . . . haven't you kinda answered the question already?

goshen360:
13. Don’t you know that those who work in the temple get their food from the temple, and those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar?
14. In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel.[/b][/i]

As long as church funds are being discharged appropriately not only is there nothing wrong in paying pastors and other church employees, it is our obligation as the congregation to support them not only financially but spiritually and in other ways as well. Let us not let the abuse of this priviledge by some prevent us from doing what we ought to do.

^lol. Yes.

The question is tricky . . . my husband will always be first in my heart and therefore will always get the biggest meat in the pot. After you have kids, they're your responsibility and you have to make sacrifices to take care of them. However, taking proper care of your children does not automatically mean you relegate your spouse to a lesser position behind them. You're one with your spouse - not your children.

So to answer your question - my husband takes priority by default, however in certain instances the welfare/wellbeing of the kids will have to considered first.

^sorry I'm not really up to date . Can you please give an example or two? Thanks.

@OP and the other fellas,
 I'm just curious as to under what circumstances will a wife/husband be asked to choose between one or the kids?

The Afghans should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

Their country has been plagued by so many problems - corrupt leadership, rampant terrorism, social abuse, lack of infrastructure, drugs etc etc . . . yet they only take violently to the streets en masse when a book is mistakenly burned - a book which was being desecrated by the way by their own people when it was used as a means of terrorist communication - they did not get angry about that part.

Shameless people. The US should not even still be in that country self.

moremi2008:
Perhaps we need a little bit more context to truly understand this situation. Some women are in really intense social situations where the wrong decision about something as symbolic as a ring can have devastating social consequences. I'll be fair to my ex by saying she had a pretty fancy group of friends and I knew exactly what the ring expectations were with that group. Our relationship did not advance to the level of seriously shopping for engagement rings but I knew I would have had to cough up the dough if the time came. Unless this guy is as sensitive as a rock, he should have known (or at least asked for) his wife's taste in rings before buying one. Rings are just too important and symbolic for that kind of fck up! Nobody should be ok with an unhappy bride!

I understand this completely and know exactly what its like to face that 'pressure' . . . and my response to her would be you're no longer in high school where you would be easily swayed by the childish materialistic whims of your 'girlfriends'. Now is the time to start learning to put your spouse's joy and happiness ahead of yours. Honor your spouse above all others. The same people that will oohh and aaahhh in front of you will be talking behind you no matter what. Women need to stop equating the size of the ring to the love of the man because it has no correlation whatsoever. Some men can afford it but choose not to spend so much money on just one item. Each couple should figure out what works for them and not bend to friends/society's pressures. In this way the guy was wrong for not at least trying to address his wife's displeasure with the ring. Both of them are to blame.

And trust me, it will not stop at just the rings. Next these 'friends' will be talking about the price and designer of the wedding dress, the wedding venue, the honeymoon location and then the kind of car he bought for you, the house you're living in, the clothes & jewelry you're wearing etc etc . . .

The woman did not necessarily need a new ring - she needs a new attitude and a new set of 'friends'.

jennykadry:
I blame whoever joined them in holy matrimony

LOL.

@topic,
   I think the ring issue is merely a manisfestation of a bigger problem they both have. They are both wrong and neither is willing to compromise/sacrifice - that spells trouble.

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moremi2008:
I kinda feel for the woman a little bit though. My ex used to laugh at women with tiny rocks or ugly rings. So I am guessing it's a big deal for women. Guys could care less what kind of wedding ring they wear!

Not all women. If my husband gave me a plastic ring I would still love & treasure it because it came from him. When he told me how much he spent I even told him it was too much self. I'm frequently appalled at the amount of money and importance people have put into something as inconsequential as 'the' ring. To me that money can be better used in so many other ways. A woman who laughs at what other women are wearing . . . that is so shallow & narrowminded its scary, and I'm glad she's your ex.