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Pastor you are spot on.
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I think about Bawo frequently and was hoping there would be a 1-yr memorial thread and I'm glad to see one.

It still stings as though it were yesterday. I only pray & hope that you are in a much better place and at peace. I pray for your family even as their heart still bleeds for your loss. I pray for the world, the day it lost such a brilliant light.

You will always be missed. Rest dear friend.

You're more than welcome my brother. Thanks for those links, I will take a look at them. And feel free in the future to contact us with any questions, comments or complaints.

Godbless.

^very true 2buff.

Judek2:
@moderator,you can move this to Joke section if you wish. Lmfao

Lol. Wish granted.

The subjective criterion is the mods own personal judgement.

Your thread is a muslim topic - and by that very definition belongs in the muslim section - period, baseline, standard. Again, this is part of double-egded sword of having a muslim section. We occasionally leave a few topics here if such a topic overwhelming appeals to the general public - and the general public does not mind.

We've recently received complaints - not just from Frosbel - about muslim topics in the general section so our allowing the occasional topic to remain is not without some disagreement. Your other topic https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-802617.0.html is clearly one that appeals to the general public and they have participated happily with no objections which is why we would leave it here.

As for the other threads you posted - the mods do not see every single thread that is opened. We respond as we see them & when a complaint is made. I honestly hadn't even previously seen those other topics you posted - some of which were opened just yesterday. I will take appropriate action. Its up to the members to bring things to our attention that we miss - and we will miss things. I hope this answers your questions? thanks.

emofine:
I had actually considered that once upon a time but wasn't there records of Nephillims? the product of Angels and women?

Yeah, there's plenty of debate as to what exactly those are.

Personally, as far as I can see biblically, there is no indication that angels have gender as we humans understand & apply the word gender. Unless someone here is privy to the details of the angelic anatomy? and that they are identical to ours? 'Male' words are frequently used in scripture (a male/masculine dominated time/society) interchangeably to refer to 'mankind' 'creation' and even God - because of course, we all know that God does not have a 'gender' as we humans understand the word gender.

The use of 'masculine' names to describe angels in scripture is nowhere enough reason to declare angels 'male' - male as we humans understand, identify & categorize the term. It would simply be easier and more biblically accurate to simply characterize angels - as angels - beings that defy our trivial categorizations of gender. Cheers.

^The same way God is refered to as a "he" - yet male & female are both pieces of a reflection of God - both are made in His image.

The purpose of creating females is the same as males - both to glorify God with their existence.

Any takers for the consideration that angels are neither male nor female - especially not as we humans understand, identify & categorize gender differences?

^and until we have a 'christian only' section we're all just going to have to learn to play nice together.

Frosbel thanks for the heads up.

Tbaba, while you're right that it is a general section, Islam-related topics generally go in the Islam section - with the subjective exception of when the topic is meant for the public. The mods will make that determination whenever any islam-related topic is posted. That said, I moved 2 of your topics that to me belong in the islam section - that's the double-edged sword of muslims asking for & getting their own space.

  Feel free to post other threads in this section. Thanks and happy posting.

montelik:
Not really an NFL expert and outside d playoffs and SB, probably only watch 5-6 games a season. But this "Tebow thing" caught my attention particularly thanks to a friend of mine who moved to Denver some years back and is now a huge broncos fan. Just finished watching Broncos vs Jets. Calling TT an unorthodox qb is being very kind. D guy looks out of place even against d old school qb's who weren't big on passing. He can't really read defenses, takes too much time to release d ball, can't make certain basic throws and is terribly inconsistent throwing d ball, not to mention in-accurate. Yet in a clutch he tends to deliver whether passing, running or simply improvising. He will probably never be a passer's passer but at some point a 4-1 record has got to show there is "something" there and it is not just a coincidence. Also for a guy who throws so erratically and inaccurately, he has a ridiculously low interception count. One would think with his suspect arm he would a pick throwing machine. Makes one think there might just be a method to his madness. After all Sanchez for crisp passing, turned d ball over, TT didn't.

What else do you expect for someone whom God is on his side? You said it best - he seems to make the right decision on clutch plays, and that you cannot teach - just ask Tony Romo .

I think there is room for a QB like him in the league - not a lot, but he can eek out a career as a game manager in the right system/team, whose offense is built on the running game (which is getting less & less popular btw). There are plenty of big name talented QBs that haven't done jack to advance their teams with their big arms, lets see what the small boy with his big heart can do.

^

. . . what you are practising is NOT Christianity, it's called idiocy!

Lol. Honestly quite apt for many of the prevalent 'doctrines' flying around in christendom these days.

^lol. Enigma is a lovely guy once you get to know him don't mind the fire on this thread, he's absolutely sweet

Enigma:
My inlaw, forgive my boastfulness but: "Ben there, Dunne that, bought the Taioseach!"  Nice

Oh! isn't that just the most beautiful place on earth? . . . and oh, did you see any other black people while you were there?

MeJow hope its been sunshine & gravy

MyJoe:
Strong underlying factors, these. Faith gives the push. You know, sometimes these factors are not even present. I seriously doubt you can take faith out of it.

Ah! but I would immediately argue there is no faith at all! it is sharply missing as it is lacking the primary ingredient necessary to constitute any of it as faith - biblical faith that is. What we have are conmen that have hijacked a conceptual boat - stripped it beyond recognition, changed the lightings, fixtures & engine - replacing it with their own determinations & specifications. And now they ferry around, picking up desperate & ignorant passengers, promising to take them to a destination that they themselves have no directions to as their compass spins in only one direction - greed. Ah, that is not faith - that is foolishness.

plaetton:
@jesoul:
I am not sure , but If I am correct, the two gentlemen are implying that We do not have the intellectual capacity to appreciate what it means to have faith or to understand things from a theistic perspective.
Am I right?.
Is so,I do not buy that.

Actually I don't think Godfather & Enigma are commenting so much on the "mental capacities" of the new age Dawkinian atheist - okay maybe they are. But they are (as I am) more concerned about the stark absence of scholarship, especially for self-anointed disciples of "free-thought" and "intellectualism". The seeming inability to present an argument that accurately and objectively ¹presents & ²counters the other side. Most of what we have on this board are thinly veiled attacks on religion cloaked under the guise of having an 'intellectual discussion'. Not saying that you are one - but your presentation of Christ and the gospel on your thread was unfortunately a sad distorted misrepresentation - one that leaves many christians/theists wondering about the motives of such threads.  

 Hence you have christians who are simply tired of this like my in-law Enigma responding as he is here.

Everyone, not just athiests, ask the same questions about faith. If faith requires some type of intellectual rigor to comprehend, then what percentage of the faithfull can we count on to employed such rigor. Religous faith in not entirely new to those of us that repudiate it. At some point we all had one. However, its is still a source of mystery and fascination for me. If you live in Nigeria, other peoples religious faith touches and affects you everywhere and everyday. We cannot close our eyes and pretend that it is not there. Therefore trying to make sense of it is my preoccupation.

To make it clear, I have no probs whatsoever with whatever an individual chooses to believe. I have never had to judge anyone on the basis of their faith ,and in real life, I hardly express my own lack of or dislike for religion, except when I'm prodded by zealous evangelical folks. It is the unbelievers that are more often bullied than the other way round. I suffer it very often.

I have no doubt about the aggressiveness of some religious folks - that too is unfortunate. And it would also be unfortunate if you held the sins of some against all - and against an entire faith. There are some terrible versions of 'christianity' floating out there - many that make me shudder, many that make me upset. But if you go straight to the bible and read for yourself, well, lets just say there's nothing like eating pizza in Piazza San Marco in Venice, by the river, watching the gondolas drift by . . . if you want the original, you go to the source - not hearsay from mama sunday and pastor tunde.  

Also, I find that theists of all shades have ,themselves, not employed any intellectual rigor to understand what an atheist is. Its just easier, and perhaps natural, for them see athiests as a competing religion and therefore a threat.

Lets just say there is plenty of misunderstanding and miscommunication to go around. The vast majority of atheists we see - including the big shot priests like Dawkins - spend most of their time ridiculing religion - surely you can understand why theists aren't falling over themselves to accomodate them .

Plaetton, I was contructing my reply to you before I got distracted earlier

plaetton:
@jesoul:
Insightful and articulate. But I disagree on most of your assertions.

Infact, I.chuka ha just contradicted you that "reason primarily has no place in the things of god".

Indeed he did and I hope my above quote has shed some light on our difference.

What I meant in my previous post is that everyone says the same thing: I need faith or more faith to understand biblical scripture. In other words, I need to first drink the potion of faith and then see things in a diferent way.

On point & exactly what I just addressed in my post to chuka.

I have dislike for religion because I think its irrational. Perhaps i do not know the definition of faith. Or are there different meanings for each person?

Oh! my friend there are diverse conceptions of God & faith as there are people. Which is why it is so sketchy to derive ones understanding from what other people have told them.

If we were to look at a strictly biblical definition/description of what faith is - you will quickly see that it is anything but ¹blind, ²irrational, ³purposeless & ⁴contradicts reason. So when you say this below:

Faith, to me, means" I dont know and may not want to know or understand, but I accept".

it shows the many problems with your understanding of what faith - the biblical one - really is. Let me borrow from hollywood to make my point.

 Ever seen the movie Triple X? Starring Ice Cube & Samuel L Jones? In the begining of the movie is a jail break. Ice cube takes out the guards with his crazy marshal arts skills, races through the building and heads towards the rooftoop. As he runs across the roof, he's running full speed towards the edge and its obvious he's about to jump off a 10-storey building. Obviously suicide right? but wait he has a belief (aka faith) he is not going to die because his faith is not ¹blind, ²irrational, ³purposeless & ⁴contradicts reason.

  He has a knowledge that no one else does, that at 2:33pm on that tuesday, a helicopter would be hovering behind the taller adjacent building, and was going to fly around the corner at that exact moment, such that when he jumps, he is going to be able to grasp the ladder they have let down in anticipation of his jump - thereby allowing him to survive an otherwise suicidal jump.

Faith is not ¹blind - he knew where he was going and why. He had a knowledge that no one else did and he acted on that knowledge
Faith is not ²irrational -  heading to the roof of a maximum security prison in an effort to escape was ridiculous to everyone else but himself
Faith is not ³purposeless - his goal was to escape, not just go for a nice run on the roof
Faith does not ⁴contradict reason - all of his actions contradicted 'reason' to those who did not know what he knew. What is "reasonable" is relative to each person - based on their experience & knowledge.

So when you say -

Faith lies on the fringes of rational thinking.

I respond by saying - not by a long shot brother .

It is faith that makes people give money to others without asking: a. when did god appoint you to collect money on his behalf?

Au contraire - it is ignorance borne from poverty that is fed by greed - that's not faith according to the bible. And the rest of your quote below:

b. are you sending the money to god or what are you doing with the money on behalf of god? ,and c. why are  you living large on god's money?.
Faith is about accepting things that seem irrational. How do you equate faith with reason? both cannot co-exist, That is why religion, over the past 200yrs so, has taken a back seat to reason. Anyone that says that they have both faith and reason is in a temporary transition mode.

I am very glad you used the word "seem" . . . revert back to Triple X, much of what he did seemed irrational and ridiculous - to everyone but him. Faith is a kind of evidence - it is not the absence of it. It is just that the knowledge of that evidence is not always & easily transferrable to someone else - especially in spiritual matters.

  Does faith sometimes contradict reason? yes & no. My faith may contradict your 'reason' but not my 'reason' - because I have in my possession a knowledge that you do not - as I said before, reason is relative to each person my friend. Cheerios .

[quote author=i.chuka link=topic=804350.msg9580729#msg9580729 date=1321567805]@jesoul
Reasoning primary had no place in the things of God.[/quote]My dear brother (or is it sister?) this is one of the most unfortunate quotes I have heard a christian say! Let me explain . . .

The Apostle Paul makes it very clear that the secret of everything in his life and service was the fact that he recieved his Gospel"by Revelation".we may even know the Bible most perfectly as a book,and yet be spiritually dead and ineffective.when the Scriptures say so much about the knowledge of God and of the truth as the basis of Eternal Life,resulting in being set free,doing exploits,etc.it also affirm that man cannot by searching find out God(Job11:7).
A rich knowledge of the Scriptures,an accurate technical grasp of Christain doctrine,the,doing of Christain work by all the resources of men's natural wisdom or ability,a clever manipulation and interesting presentation of the Bible content and themes,won't get one WHIT beyond the natural life of men,and still remain within the realm of spiritual death.we cant be argued,REASONED,fascinated,willed,entrused,impassioned,into the Kingdom of Heavens,we can only be born,and thats by spiritual quickening.(Jhn3:3,5).this new birth brings with it new Capacities of every kind,the most vital is a new and different faculty of Divine Knowledge,understanding and apprehension,though our brain is not ruled out,but its secondary,not primary.the function of our natural intellect is to give spiritual things intelligent form for ourselves and for others.
God says,"For My thoughts are not your thoughts,neither are your ways My ways"(Ish55:.the measure of the difference is as the height of the Heavens from the Earth,of the Heavenly from the Earthly.
One of the chief lessons that we have to learn,is that spiritual ends demands spiritual means.
Cheers!

You are not wrong in asserting things of the spirit must be grasped by a spiritually attuned mind . . . but you are missing a key component. When the gospel is preached to a man, how can he understand it let alone accept it? since according to you he doesn't have a spiritual mind? It is the Holy Spirit that does the prodding - and a man's heart that does the accepting - and then he becomes transformed. Having a 'spiritual mind' is not a prerequisite to being saved.

What Paul is teaching is about the more deeper mysteries of God & our faith and the absolute need to approach with a spiritually drenched mind in order to grasp them. Cheers friend.

Enigma your hobby here is proving quite useful. I think I should consult before posting on threads lol . . .

1Godfather:
The point, if it eludes you, is not that intellectual rigor and rationality should be discouraged. It is that the much-vaunted intellectual sophistication and rationality claimed by the New Atheists (and people of the same ideological bent) is conspicuously absent or simply underwhelming. This is revealed starkly when they attempt to reproduce a theistic philosophical argument with its appropriate deductions. In essence, most atheists, when they attempt to wrestle with the arguments from the other side of the aisle, seem to be really only capable of interacting with caricaturish and simplistic misrepresentations of the argument. It betrays a certain level of intellectual vacuousness that would make you question their pretensions to the contary. It seems that much of the contents of the new atheist arsenal are simply appeals to ridicule and sophistry.

Funny you're also speaking to Plaetton/jayriginal above here.

  Plaetton, I said this to you just today on your thread: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=804350.msg9579788#msg9579788

JeSoul:
Plaetton, I have identified the problem . . . it seems everything that you "know" you were either "told" or "made to believe". I'm just curious how much of what you believe you "know" has actually been derived from personal study of the faith & the bible. I ask because much of what you have stated that you "know" about the christian position can be likened to a wineskin filled with holes - it will never make sense because it continues to leak critical bits of information. And you can plug these holes very easily by simply reading the bible for yourself.

Its one thing to understand the christian position and then choose not the believe in it - it is quite another to mischaracterize it and then lament it makes no sense. Cheers bro.

Anyways . . . I'm willing to tussle a bit further on your thread. Perhaps you can prove Enigma & Godfather wrong?

^re-read my post again Cap, this time calmly. I didn't say we cannot produce things of value - I said right now we do not. Very clear difference. Unless we've been exporting cars, clothes, computers and machinery I am unaware of? Our movie industry is our only creative export that has us on the worldwide map.

Every now and then an ingenious creation from a naija youth makes the front page and we all recognize it for the truly amazing thing that it is. If the govt can pump money into these brilliant people in the right industries we can see a boom unlike any other.

Igbos - along with yorubas & hausa have incredible genuises amongst them. If we had a society that ¹values, ²nutures and ³invests in these people and industries, we would be talking about Nigeria's economic spring along with the Chinese.

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=170354.msg9579142#msg9579142 date=1321550371]On a good day Brady is still top 5. The Giants and Steelers no be moi-moi teams na. Five years is a stretch sha[/quote]Stretch for whia? His easy-go, laid-back playing style lends him towards that possibility - along with a little luck. Unlike Mikey Vick - that guy cannot last another year and half at this rate, broken ribs again last week.

We just dey on a low key? Extend my greetings to Chairman

Extended . I'm glad you're doing fine my dear. We thank God.

They beat the Raiders and Chiefs hardly a big deal! He needs to work on his arm IMO. This is simply not the league for a rushing quarterback! How is he going to lead game-winning drives? Not saying he cant improve tho

Mehn my dude, there's only so much "work" a man can do oh! lol. If talent no dey no amount of work fit fill in the gap. He can certainly get better, but he will never be a rocket scientist - unless the Holy Spirit really possess him 

They just try too hard when it comes to the Steelers. The same Seahawks that didnt score a single pt against us for that matter. Lets see how far they go! Me i just like T-sizzle and i wish he could come join the winning team
They have some nice receivers and backs in Boldin, Ray Rice but the problem is can Joe find em??

I've always liked Flacco. I think he's a solid player. He has done well since his few yrs with them. I think their problem is more mental & chemistry than feild-related.

Anyway the bye couldnt have come at a better time! 10 straight grueling weeks and better the Ravens and Bengals have to struggle for a W (That Dalton kid has been a big step up on Carson Palmer tho! Who woulda known?)

Abi oh! See the bengals looking like a better team minus big shot names like Ocho, TO and Palmer. Goes to show sometimes you just gotta give the keys to hungry rookies and let them run loose!

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[quote author=A-40 link=topic=170354.msg9579181#msg9579181 date=1321550713]One more thing where is Rikkyjen??[/quote]Forry boy - na which kin question be this now?? how can thee ask such a query? @ 0-10, how can you expect the man to come around here? the storied, hallowed Colts currently feeding at the bottom of the barrel . . . even me am starting to feel bad for them.

Hehehe word on the street is which more likelier? Packers 16-0 or Colts 0-16!! My smart money is on the latter

Haha! I'm with you on that bet. Packers going 16-0 . . . lol, I've seen that movie before, it usually never ends well for 99% of SB defending champs.

^the Asian continent is certainly reaping the benefit . . . unfortunately Africa has not yet cashed in economically like the others. How much manufacturing does say a country like Naija even do? no be so so 'import' we sabi? We don't place high value on locally produced goods - I'm not sure whether its the chicken or the egg . . . we don't place high value because we don't create good quality OR we don't create good quality hence don't place high value.

redsun:
High standard of living come with a price- high cost. Britain cannot compete with emerging nations like china and india with cheap cost of production,resources,ample market and almost the same technological know-how. Price and necessity rules. America is in the shoes aswell, stall system that comes with the rise of the underdogs. When africa rise, asia might find herself in the same shoes. But the question is, will africa ever rise?

Spot on. Britian & America need to adjust their political & business climates in order to make their countries more attractive. The more and more they revolve towards consumerist societies . . . well we're seeing the result. Its now even going beyond just the manufacturing sector, its now begining to seep and eat into research & development.

For young folks lamenting this development, might I adivse on trade/contractor jobs like carpentry, plumbing etc . . . some may laugh at first blush, but those trades are gradually becoming scarce that workers are making relatively good livings these days.

plaetton:
@jesoul:
Yes, Much of what we know are what we are told, that is why I have studied the bible from a religious perspective ,and lately ,from a historical and academic perspective, in the same way we study and critique shakespeare. In shakespeare we probe the events, the settings, the themes,the characters, their backgrounds, their passions and their motives in order to understand the events and even the hidden messages  being transmitted via the drama.

I'm glad you've done your own personal study . . . but as I previously remarked, you're still missing some critical chunks information . . . asking the very first question: "(A)Since Jesus died long before I was born, what sin of mine did he die for and what exactly did he save me from? (B). If my sins(the ones I have commited and the ones am yet to commit) have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus, then where lies my responsibility to live a sin-free life?"
. . . is proof-positive that you're not in total possession of the full gospel of Christ as narrated in the bible.

Shakespeare did much to elevate the English language and English culture.Just imagine if the English people treated the works of shakespeare as a devinely inspired religious book. After all, it does have all the trappings of a religious book. It has kings, courts, dreams, revelations, spirits, magic, murder, betrayal etc, as well as moral lessons.

If anyone anywhere decides to treat Shakespeare as a religious text, it is certainly their perogative to do so - as long as they're not infringing on anyone else's rights. It doesn't bother me - the same way anyone else's choice of religion should not bother us. 

Reading the bible from a historical perspective seems to fill in a lot of the gaps and inconsistencies because it allows me to cross-reference other historical sources from Egypt, babylon and the lands of Canaan to put greater clarity on the historical dramas that began with abraham in the city of  U.R, then capital of Summer, down to the events of the sinai peninnsula , to canaan and its conflicts, and then finally to the shisms in palestine at the beginning of the common era. In each case, the motives and objectives of the biblical chroniclers are clearly discernable.

I'm glad you find some historical/academic use from the scriptures, to me that's a bonus . . . because like you said, it is primarily a religious text - not a scientific or academic one.

I have also not seen anyone , including those who preach it, that understands the bible from a purely religious perspective. What i do see in abundance, as in this very thread, is the abundance of the same recourse to more faith and more Zeal. Its the same all the time.
" you require faith or more faith to grasp the true import of the biblical (a book of faith)teachings ".

Forgive me, I don't quite understand what you mean here.

I do not agree with that. Faith, by its very nature , is an antithesis to knowledge and understanding. Faith is a requirement to accept and not a requirement to know or understand.

A most unfortunate assertion, and one usually borne from an errorneous understanding of what faith is and used as a prop to reinforce a strong dislike for religion - when nothing could be further from the truth.

    Let me put it like this: faith & reason are like my mother & father - they are opposite sides of the same truth. They both have varying levels of wisdom depending on the subject matter - and as their child, I apply varying levels I have gleaned from their wisdom depending on the situation. I will not ask my dad about the best spices to use for my egusi soup - and I will not ask my mum about the proper fan belt to install in my car. They are both authorities on different subjects.

Faith & reason are not seperate opposites - they are inseperable composites. Two different yet equal sides of the very same coin - the search for truth, wisdom & understanding. The imaginary conflict that exists between the two exists only in the minds of those outside of their family. As a christian, asking me to choose between faith & reason is like asking me to choose between my mother & father - I can't because its impossible.


  So what am I saying? anyone including christians who tells you to abandon reason in favor of only faith - and you advocating the opposite (abandoning faith in favor of only reason) are both holding leaky wineskins - you will never quite have a complete grasp of knowledge - spiritual or otherwise. Cheers.

debrief08:
My son is barely 2 and he knows his mama is no nonesense. Some pple shared with me that they assumed I will spoil my son silly because I had gone through a lot before having a kid, but I tell them what's d need of waiting so long to have a baby and spoiling him and making him useless.
Anyway my husband invited his collegue and wife over for dinner, I was hesitant cos I don't like them, they come accross as fake and superficial, u can't spend 2 minutes talking to the wife without her mentioning d last vacation she had and d brand of her bag as if you have to tell me. The man is no better, he will take bank loans to sponsor fake lifestyle when he is d only one among his collegues who doesn't have a personal house.
Anyway, they came over with their 2 kids, kids just past me and my hubby no greeting and just went to take d remote and change d channel, I was shocked at their rudeness expecting their parents to correct them for where? The mom just said "kids" hmmm. I went to set d table came and met d 3 year old child holding up my expensive glass deco, my son at 2 knows some parts of d sitting room are off limits to him. Anyway, d mom was busy begging him to keep it, promising him candy, ben 10 stuff if he didn't break it, d child was screaming demanding for more stuff. I wanted to go smack d hell out of the kid but my husband stopped me.
Anyway, when we were about to eat the elder one started demaning for candy, and the mom asked where they could go but close by, I was in shock as d rude kids kept running crazy. Anyway we waited till der dad came back and we sat for dinner. The kids were uncontrollable and when they threw tantrums d mum will beg them and bribe them with something. Anyway I had it and d straw dat broke d camels back was when they poured their drinks on my carpet delibrately and were taking it to pour on my chair, I got up as fast as I could dragged 2 of dem off gave them both two hard smacks and scolded them, their mom looked as if I had taken out her kidneys but I didn't care, needless to say the 2 brats were quiet and well behaved through the rest of d dinner.
The woman doesn't talk to me anymore but who cares? Fake family

You are my kind of woman!  what terrible kids . . . honestly, it really depresses my heart when I hear of kids like these. People should really be screened before they have children. And I'm glad you mentioned that even at 2yrs your son already knows what not to do . . . some parents will be giving silly excuses "they're too young" "they won't understand why you're spanking them" "bla bla bla".

Outstrip:
There is this little kid in my church. I pray before I go to church that I don't teach that girl a lesson. she is not even two but she walks up to bigger kids and the next thing you know is a hot slap. You will see three year olds crying and the next thing is that this little terrorist has done it again. I am very convinced that her mother is her fathers punching bag. She is so aggresive. I saw her snatch a bottle from a little baby in a stroller and started drinking it. The baby was just crying. She would walk up to someone and just snatch a bag of chips from their hands. She does it with so much aggressiveness (is this even a word) that it just shocks me. Church folks raise your children right abeg. I have boys so I knwo they will just let her have it but I will certainly send that child crying to her mother if she comes near me with that nonsense. Too aggressive for a little girl

Too unfortunate. I can't recall how many times I've restrained myself from stretching out my hand to smack a wayward child . . . no one to blame but the parents. I shudder to think the kind of brat that girl is going to grow up into.

jennykadry:
Lol @ little terrorist.

I have smacked a friends son before, like jesoul said, instead of the parents to do something about their wayward child, all you hear is "stop it, be quiet, sit down" but when I smacked him, the dude got the message immediately

Lol, the thing annoys me. Or the ones that will say "I'm counting to 10, 1-2-3 . . ." seriously?
Contrast that with one ghanian party I went to. The drinks were on the center table and all the adults were sitting/standing around. 2 kids went up to the table to help themselves to a bottle of goya because all they had downstairs in their section was coke & fanta . . . mehn if you see how the father went ballistic on them  "how dare you?" "you see adults here and you want to take from where they're eating" "my friend go! get out of here!" "OUT!!" ROTFLOL  if you see the way those kids ran for their lives lol, we were all laughing so hard . . . poor kids, and they were actually well behaved the whole time, just happen to make one mistake 

Who are these people dissing Tom Terr-freaking-ific Brady ehn? Best years behind him? you may want to remind him soon considering he's still rated the #2 QB in the league behind only Rodgers who is having his best year. Brady has a minimum of 5 yrs left . . . when quacks like Tony Romo still have starting jobs  . . .

  40-boy wassup my dude? 

Tebow will be a decent nfl QB. He's obviously no Brady or Manning,  he's more of a game manager than a gunslinger. Able to rile up the offense without necessarily making air-defying passes. I think its no coincidence they've been winning since he got in there even though his stats haven't been impressive. 

[quote author=A-40 link=topic=170354.msg9557210#msg9557210 date=1321302410]See this useless Ravens so after all their giri giri last week they couldnt beat the Seahawks [/quote]Lol. Don't mind them. Ray Lewis must be vexing hard for Joe Flacco  I heard many guys don't respect the QB as able and gutsy enough to lead them.

Doyin aka Troublemaker, how body now?

plaetton:
Corrections:

When I was much younger, I had tried to make sense of the conflicting and sometimes confusing teachings of christianity. Although these teachings form the core of the christian belief system, I have not gained a satisfactory understanding on the messages. I invite all to share their views or their own understanding on these.

1. We have been made to believe from childhood that Jesus sacrificed his life on the cross to bear all our sins, and by that sacrifice we are saved. It is further emphasized that by accepting that sacrifice, we are free and our place in heaven is assured.

My questions are:
(A)Since Jesus died long before I was born, what sin of mine did he die for and what exactly did he save me from? (B). If my sins(the ones I have commited and the ones am yet to commit) have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus, then where lies my responsibility to live a sin-free life?

2.Again we have been made to believe from childhood that the merciful god forgives all our sins, especially when we pray and ask him.If so, then:

(A) What sins are there to forgive since the sacrifice of Jesus automatically wipes away our sins? (B) even if there are leftover or residual sins, and the merciful god forgives us everyday throughout our lives,where lies our responsibility to lve sin-free lives?

3.And lastly, we are also told that in the final day,God will judge our sins and punish us accordingly(eternal hellfire)for the sins of our earthly life.
If so, my questions are:

(A) What? What sins? But Jesus had already wiped our sins away and God had forgiven us for the rest after prayer. What sins are we now going to be judged on ,and why? Would final judgement not be a redudancy considering that we had undergone two stages of forgiveness already? Does it not seem like a betrayal? why accept the sacrifice of jesus and why pray for forgiveness if at the end you are still going to be prosecuted for your sins?

(B) Does it mean that at the end , all that matters is your conduct while on earth?
Kindly shed some light on these conflicting teachin

Plaetton, I have identified the problem . . . it seems everything that you "know" you were either "told" or "made to believe". I'm just curious how much of what you believe you "know" has actually been derived from personal study of the faith & the bible. I ask because much of what you have stated that you "know" about the christian position can be likened to a wineskin filled with holes - it will never make sense because it continues to leak critical bits of information. And you can plug these holes very easily by simply reading the bible for yourself.

Its one thing to understand the christian position and then choose not the believe in it - it is quite another to mischaracterize it and then lament it makes no sense. Cheers bro.

I second people's reservations about disciplining other peoples kids in public but I support the man jor. It was only a slap self, it should have been a complete spanking. There are few things worse than undisciplined children.

I was having a party at my place once and set up all the fancy champagne glasses and was filling them, there was only one kid in the house but he was a terrible terrorist messing up the whole place. Me I had been quiet the whole night, and his parents would just say "stop" "sit" "quit" doing nothing to really stop him. He came into the kitchen and raised his hand and almost toppled the entire 15 or so filled glasses . . .

out of nowhere I screamed at him and lifted my hand to smack him, if not for his mom was standing next to me I surely would've delivered a solid smack. His mom stood frozen & shocked at my reaction and said "geez, you didn't have to yell at him like that". But guess what, the rest of the night he sat in a corner very quiet & behaved. I could see him cower a bit whenever he saw/heard me. Lol. I will give my trusted friends/family full authority to discipline my kids should they ever act a fool in their presence.

jennykadry:
I don't know why pastors, priests, courts e.t.c , do not screen their applicants before allowing them tie the knot.

This is embarassing. Makes me appreciate what I have everyday. Even my own father used to iron our church dresses, wash our clothes and school uniforms when we were growing up, everything was not left for my mum to do. Do men still think like the OP?

^the exact same question that was going thru my mind. The most scary/disappointing part of such a thread as this is that someone who thinks like this is actually married.

Jarus:
There is nothing wrong in it, but it should not be routine.

It is most unfortunate that a man's ego gets too big to stoop down and do something as inconsequential as ironing his own wife's clothes regularly. I hope she too figures out that doing certain things around the house like say cooking must be not routine.

TOH, betta pesin, wassup girl 

[quote author=sa_lassie link=topic=802250.msg9556479#msg9556479 date=1321294576]I love that there are so many races and ethnic groups in Africa (and the world). I would like to get to know those people on this forum who feel the same.[/quote]Fear not my brother, there are many many folks on this forum who "feel the same" .