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Bookmarked. Flagged. Tagged. Food for weekend thought. Will be back.

and this was quite funny

Pastor AIO:
This refers to the parable of the sower and it goes something like this (a one a two, a one two three four

lol

vescucci:
Hi Dulcet. I have a feeling I have a lot to learn from you. Yeah, I kinda stopped posting here for a while cuz there's an egotistical epidemic in this section. If you don't hang out with people like JeSoul or yourself, you may lose your humility and common sense. So I'm selective now.

yikity yikes! Vesc . . . this height that you have set for me, I no fit reach am at all at all oh

Hmmm. It seems you're God sent. About two years ago I finally had the courage to admit to myself the things I believed and the things I did not. Initially, I felt so liberated and I was excited. But afterwards were trying times for me. I wonder if I lost or gained in my new outlook. I don't feel that connection with God like I did before even though it was on a placebo. That's why I think religion is immaterial to one's relationship with God. But religion can also do a lot of harm. Because it is dogmatic and fatal to one's faculty of reasoning. Almost no religious argument makes any sense. Mostly there're based on a faulty premise or assumption. I totally get trying to know God on one's terms. I was conscious of this, that I might be too empirical about my spirituality. But when I see some people talking about their fantastic beliefs, I get a little pissed cuz they look down on other people's beliefs which are just as fantastic as their own and sometimes even less so. What I'm trying to say is religion, with a sincere heart, may be a good means to an end but can never be the end in itself.

Thanks for sharing this V.

I understand the "knowing God on your own terms" bit . . . the part I tussle with is we all know 'above all the heart is deceitfully wicked'. We can deceive ourselves  and even be sincere in this self-imposed deception. Its a sobering thought. And should be a humbling thought for all of us. Even the brightest of "spiritual superstars" (© Dulcet) can get it wrong in the basic things . . . God is no respecter of persons like we are - and thankfully so! At the end of the day, mama sunday may end up having a tighter grasp of the true gospel than Martin Luther.

In all . . . just continue to search and seek God. I do believe He rewards all who do so in diligence and sincerity of heart. How awesome it is you don't have to explain yourself to Him. He already knows the motives and thoughts of the deepest of hearts - that alone should be a comforting, reassuring thought - I know it is to me.

. . . I have talked too much today. Oya next pesin carry go.

^Salutay back sir.

Deep Sight:
^^^ Salutations.

Re: the last bit of your post above - if that was the case then there would be no need for us to have come into the world at all.

These are tellingly contradictory -

Ah! but read it again - and finish the sentence. The "why are we here" is the question many much more smarter people than I have been asking for ages. I'm only attempting to represent the biblical/christian perspective. We are here to serve God and each other - what we "do" (Faith, faith, faith!) here will determine where we will be headed to next.

vescucci:
I do not think all religions lead to the same place.

Seconded (or is it thirded by now? )

There might very well be a 'way' but it is not a religion.

My movie buff, I know you will get this . . . recall Nicholas Cage in the movie National Treasure. They find the map to the treasure, but need to find a way to read the map. They locate the cypher in the museum - it translates to the location of a pair of glasses. They locate the glasses and look through it at the map:

Gates - It says "Heere at the wall"
Riley - That's it? I thought the glasses were a way to read the map?
Gates - No. The glasses were a way - to find a way - to read the map
Riley (frustrated) - why can't they just say "here's the treasure, spend wisely?" lol.

Hope I haven't confused you. Religion is a way - to find the way - to God. At least that's what I think. We would much rather be like Riley and have the answers directly in front of us but God chose otherwise for us. The finding of religion itself will not get you to God (as we have all agreed). At the center of it all, is Faith, an inherent knowledge of God, when one recognizes it and the recognition of it reflects in how they live their lives (sin, love, God etc), God approves of them. And when instead they choose to "sear of their conscience" or supress this God implanted knowledge, He disapproves. So I don't think an "atheist" can still be "accepted by God" - the atheist has afterall rejected God and the evidence of Him all around us completely.

^at least depending on how much authority you want to ascribe to the bible . I've chosen to believe it. Though I concede my comprehension of it is far far from 10% talkless of 100%. This much I know, is that we were made for God (shout out to Dulcet and the manufacturer bit), to do the work of God here on earth.

  You (uhm Vesc) asked D7 about after here then what? hmm . . . na by Faith I go take answer this kweshtion, so indulge me a bit. I believe that "there/next" will be the fruition of here - for us to dwell with God as He intended. If you think about it, according to christianity no one really "dies", its a transition into the next phase - and which phase depends on what happened in this stage. I do believe in a judgement. Beyond that, I believe a Just and Righteous God must judge and accord sentences according to the crimes. Would any of us respect a judge who let a serial killer go free under the guise of 'mercy'?

  Which to me is the most beautiful thing about Christ. He presents a way of salvation - redemption - that does not rest on our "performance" here on earth - but rather our Faith in God - and how this Faith manifested itself in our lives - regardless of how often or hard we fell short.


   . . . I don ramble finish. Make u no vex jare.

Dulcet7:
there are uneducated people: e.g. cloth-sellers and house-painters who use a crude form of this theorem when cutting cloth or estimating the slant the ladder must have against the wall. They have never heard of Pythagoras. They dont even know the theorem exists, and they dont know that they dont know. The painter might not even work with the measured distances, he has an accurate gut feeling of the ratios.

The bottom line is that for each of the three categories they have applied the theorem to better themselves at what they do.

Our sole purpose is to maximize the efficiency of our lives' design. Jesus came to show us a tangible form and he gave himself up in the process because it was necessary and THAT was what maximised his own efficiency (he is totally respected across Eastern and Western religions), but I assure you there are some people who have not seen or heard this tangible form and yet they are somehow doing things right!

Ha! I like this. Its along the same tune I posted in Mantraa's "gate to heaven" thread. There are people who have "accepted Christ" without 'consciously' doing so and are "doing the will of the father" without having necessarily been "taught" to do so. 

On to the first bit of your response:

Dulcet7:
Thanks for your reasoned response, Jessy.

I believe religions are surfaces of the same object, but that object is not God, at least not directly.

A human's true religious objective is to achieve maximum efficiency in all spheres of life (there is no religion in death).

Efficiency can only be maximized according to the manufacturer's standards, and this is where God comes in.

By the etymology of "re-ligion", it attempts to "bind back together" (establish 100% efficiency by design standards).

This process of "Unit testing" is the common object which can take various courses called religion. The object is same, but the objective is often lost in the excitement.

For every religion, one should be able to ask, 'Does this really increase my efficiency as a creation of God?' i.e. Am I 'helping' God do what he planned when he created me and everything else?

This is why I have little respect for so-called religious persons who have no respect for nature in itself, or for those who use the name of religion to deprive others of their lives and belongings.In either case, they are not only failing at their inaugural objectives, they are destroying other Creations' efficiencies as well.

You made a good point about the Bible's clear message in its distinction. However, I still think religions involve channels of experience.

I appreciate PastorAIO's attempt to square out what exactly we mean by religion. Religion is a loaded word and as I've noticed in this section can connote diverse ideas as there are people. To avoid the sin of verbosity, I'll try to be terse - So are you in essence opining that [b]"religions are scratching the surface of the same object - and - this object is the way to get (reconcile/reconnect/bind back etc) to God - and not God himself"?[/b]and that the fact these other religions do not recognize the central theme of sin and redemption in christianity is not necessarily problematic, but that they are applying "Pythagoras'" theory anyways? Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding you.

Deepsight's appearance has re-emphasized my position -

Deep Sight:
the religions do exhibit starkly dissimlar doctrinal bents in terms of their dogma: to wit - Islam is vehemently opposed to a dogma such as teh trinity: the central idea of "redemptive christianity by the death on the cross" is totally alien to Buddhism, Islam and Hinduism etc.

As Deepsight noted, while the common denominator may be "connecting with the Maker", the modus operandi on how to go about this (thanks to DS again for that nice long detailed post) are so starkly different one has to wonder . . . and I'm still wondering.

Ah! Nice contributions. Oga Dulcet, permission to return tomorrow. I'm in a political state of mind today and some people are looking for my trouble over in the Foreign Affairs section

Hallo Vesc

^Ah! but no one here is suffering from "Negrophobia" Cap. We're simply refusing to hate any and all things "white" under the guise of black patriotism.
Mt 12:46
46While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. 47Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.”
48He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” 49Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. 50For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

  In the context of this discussion, who are "my/our people" Cap? hint, it is not determined by the color of their skin. I love my black people, but I also love my white people. They are all people. Fight the 'establishment' and not the race. If refusing to pledge allegiance solely on the basis of skin pigmentation and not character, is the new "Negrophobia" then count me in.

cap28:
je soul - didnt really want to fall out with you because you come across as a genuinely nice person - this is why i was avoiding this conversation - oh well

We're not "falling-out" Cap. When I call you my brother, I always mean it - no matter whether we find ourselves on completely different ends of the spectrum. If you ever feel insulted by me, it is never my intention.

 and at the same time, I agree wholly with Morpheus.

morpheus24:
In their minds, they believe contact with these subject matters convince them that they are well read and equipped to confront[b] the complexities that plague human relationships piting sides as the "we" the good people against them the "oppressor." [/b] when an intellligent person knows its much more complex than matters that are presented.

Cap, please think about this well.

cap28:
No, what i am saying is based on previous discussions i have had with you regarding issues of this nature you do not appear to have much knowledge or understanding of african american history or for that matter racial issues, therefore in order to save myself a conversation with you that might degenerate into something both of us might not like i decided to take the fifth on this one.

The fact that you refer to my views as "extremist" already indicates to me that getting into a long drawn out discussion with you will be a complete waste of my time, i am quite happy to defend my views if the person i am speakign to has at least some rudimentary knowledge adn understanding of racial issues and does not tag anyone who speaks out against racism as an extremist.
As i said earlier my  decision not to discuss race or african american history with you is based on previous conversations that i have had with you in which it was obvious from your one sided and extremely biased world view that i would be on nothing more than a fool's errand.

This is why i decided to avoid any discussion with you because you have already labelled me, put me into a box and closed your mind to anything based on logic.  i asked you earlier - do you refer to a jewish person who speaks about the atrocities of the holocaust as a jewish supremacist, extremist or victim - unsuprisingly i didnt receive an answer.  I would love to discuss issues such as these with you but if your mind is closed to reason and logic based on a lack of knowledge together with an unwillingness to research these issues, there is nothing i can do for you.
Beleive me i do not feel insulted if i am told that i am a conspiracy theorist by you because you have to look at the calibre of people who make such assertions - are they well read, widely travelled individuals with an indepth understanding of the world they live in? I'll leave you to answer that, I read widely and obtain my information from very credible sources and intellectual minds such as noam chomsky, webster tarpley, michael parenti and michael hudson - all critically acclaimed and respected academics therefore if a couple of ignoramuses on NL beleive that i am a conspiracy theorist this clearly demonstrates that i am obviously directing my thoughts, observations and comments towards a much more low brow audience - i am guessing that you are not familiar with the works of any of those writers.

. . . and you have yet again made my point for me.

If someone does not agree with your worldview, you conclude that they henceforth do not know anything about history. You say I have "no rudimentary knowledge of racial issues" . . . I can only chuckle at this unfounded declaration (a tactic that you are fond of making by the way). If you have any "rudimentary knowledge" of reason, you would readily understand that a fact will remain a fact - but interpretation of the said fact can be as diverse as the people interpreting it. This is what you and everyone else does in the politics section everyday - interpret the facts, the history from your own point of view. But you seem to have an unusually lofty opinion of yourself and your 'knowledge' over others. I see you display it on all your threads. I concede all the time you have a good grasp of history, and I mean it . . . but I reiterate, your interpretation of it is an outright crime.

But its okay if you believe yourself too "knowledged" and "enlightened" to condescend to this "low brow" audience to explain your beliefs. Afterall, you would only be following in the footsteps of those who have gone before you - intelligent yes (as you yourself probably are) but socialists, anarchists, anti-semitics, relics (to steal a word from Morph.) etc amongst other things. "Intelligence' is not synonymous with 'wisdom'. You seem to be mixing the two.

So I am content to settle for common sense instead of wild, unsubstantiated conspiracies or anarchistic political philosophy that has no head or tail or playing victimism as a sly means of refusing to take responsibility for ones own actions and destiny. No thanks. Alice has left wonderland Cap . . . you should think of doing the same soon.

cap28:
Yes im sure he's just making this up, this whole thing about him and his family being frightened in the night by the sound of aircraft -im sure thats just him getting overexcited, perhaps i'll arrange to get an interview with the entire 6 million inhabitants of Libya in order to convince you that the libyan people are not in support of this invasion - what do you think?

Actually, that'd be too much work for even you. The only thing I'd have you do is stop drawing far-reaching conclusions & making definitive declarations on behalf of an entire nation from one source. That will do.

pleep:
he represents the side of the story the mainstream media is refusing to tell you about. Not everyone in libya is against ghaddafi if I were to guess I would say that the protestors could be less than 25%. A vocal armed minority is a very powerfull thing. the united states won it's independace from Britain with less than 25% active support. In these sorts of things the majority is usually apathetic.

Absolutely right pleep. And any honest person will readily admit to this. Every country run by dictators is like this. They'll always have their supporters and defectors. The point I was making was how can the OP take the statement of one man, and suddenly assign him the position of spokesman for "all the Libyan people"?

cap28:
Its very difficult for me to answer that question because you dont appear to have any understanding of african american history, therefore it will be very difficult for me to have a meaningful exchange with you, my advice to you is find out more about african american history and then you might just begin to have an understanding of where i am coming from.

secondly speaking and acknowledging the truth of african american or african history does not make me a victim, jews never stop speaking, writing, and reminding the world ad nauseam about the holocaust - do you refer to them as jewish supremacists, extremists or people revelling in victimacy as you call it?

My response to ^ is this . So in essence you're saying, if anyone does not agree with your world view, they have "no knowledge of history". Okay. I have heard you.

You sound as if you find it difficult to form your own opinions

again. I know you're used to fighting in this section and when someone does not try to shove down their own beliefs or ideas or thoughts down your throat, they may come across as ^. I assure you, that is not the case.

  I prefer to give people a chance to explain why they believe what they believe in a logical or experiential way. I don't know it all, so I'm always eager to learn when I can. You have shown me that in this instance, you cannot defend your extremist views, so like an artful doger, you avoid facing the challenge by throwing out the self-elevating declaration that "you cannot discuss with someone who doesn't know history".

  I had hope, but I see now that you seem incapable of seeing beyond race and color. If its black, its good. If its white, its bad. That seems to be your incontrovertible philosophy. Like I remarked to you earlier, you're living in the past. "Fighting" some imaginary war against the imaginary 'white man'. You indeed know sizeable chunks of history, but your interpretation of it leaves a lot to be desired. I bet you could even somehow spin the most innocent of situations into a complex conspiracy theory, with the 'white man' as the perpetrator. I'm not insulting you Cap, but this is what you come across . . . and I am just about the 1000th person in section to remark this to you.

I hope it is now clear I can "form an opinion"?

cap28:
The western media continue to parrot their lies, claiming that their intervention in libya was on humanitarian grounds, fortunately the libyan people are not as gullible as many people in the west who have bought this pathetic lie, here is what a libyan resident thinks of the west and their latest neo colonial adventure in his country:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn4lu9VzxYM&feature=email

How does one man equal and suddenly represent "the Libyan people"?

Justwise and Babaearly, you're both welcome

NETGAIN:
@ poster,
If u had posted this nine months ago, u would have saved my brother a lot of grief. He travelled qatar last year and came back this last january with tales similar to the post

Contrary all the pomise the agents made that a job and official car would be waiting 4 him once he got to qatar, he never worked for even a day and we had to send money to enable him come back from nigeria!

wow. Let those who have ears, hear well.

e36991, you're the best my dear brother! thank you. I hope everything worked out well with . . .

Jenwitemi:
Those people who come here opening preaching threads instead of opening the ones that stimulate debates. They are all over the place.

Lol . . . are you refering to the CEC folks? lef dem now, they're doing their thing in peace. Its up to the others to open interesting topics and keep the place going.

^ lol.

Cap, its the spambot, not the mod that is tagging your posts. Don't post it again or you'll automatically get banned. I've notified the admin to untag your posts.

Morph and Cap. You both should not fall to insults, pls .

And Cap, you did not answer me, why does anyone who doesn't subscribe to black supremacy or 'victim-acy' automatically equal "white-man worshipper"? One must be a black extremist or otherwise a "sell-out"?

Dulcet7:
Right here, madam Jesoul. I just stopped posting, but I have been coming to read the threads.

Hope you are in sound health and peace? I wish you very well. . .

Thank you oh sir. I am well. We thank God for His never failing mercies. And I am glad that you are well - in heart and in spirit  . And thank you for this nice topic.

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Dulcet7:
So here is the question: What do you think about the Mystics' (and Shopkeeper's) assertion? Is religion truly various surfaces of the same object?

Similar to the 6 Blind men and the Elephant. Reminds me of this verse -
Is 59: "We look for light, but all is darkness;
   for brightness, but we walk in deep shadows.
10 Like the blind we grope along the wall,
feeling our way like people without eyes.
At midday we stumble as if it were twilight;

The message of the bible is the sinfulness of man, his seperation from God, his need for salvation - and the way accomplished and presented by Jesus Christ. Everything thing else is far far on the sidelines. Other religions do not begin to point in this ^ direction as you rightly noted . . .

One has to wonder, are we scratching different surfaces of the same object? or different objects entirely? Or are we scratching different surfaces of the same object, but missing the objective entirely?

Dulcet! how have you been sir? sorry for the off topic

mantraa:
^^^^
So you believe that many paths can lead you to heaven, so long as you are a good person and live a good life. 

You dont have to accept Jesus as your lord and saviour?

I believe what the bible teaches that no man can get to the Father except through Jesus. The distinction is this - some people have 'accepted Jesus' without even realizing it, without ever hearing of His name, they were His followers . . .

Romans 2:14 "Some people naturally obey the Law's commands, even though they don't have the Law. This proves that the conscience is like a law written in the human heart. And it will show whether we are forgiven or condemned when God appoints Jesus Christ to judge everyone's secret thoughts, just as my message says.

and also

Acts 10:34 "Then Peter began to speak: “I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism, but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right."

Re:Will The Gates Of Heaven Have A Sign Saying Christians Only?

No.

It will say "those who lived lives that were pleasing to God, regardless of age, race, culture or 'religion' only"

Cap, how does a distaste for the ideology Farrakhan preaches automatically = "undying and pathetic unrequited love for the white man" and "low self-esteem?

Seriously, I wish you would calm down, really think and reconsider these far-fetched declarations you're making.

Mzdiverse, welcome to NL .

The questions you've asked . . . there are already several topics floating around that all address them (which is why you may not get responses from people in here). Feel free to contribute to those other topics and discuss there. Godbless and have fun.

morpheus24:
[b]The real fact of the matter concerns the ability and desire of wanting to wield absolute "POWER'and "INFLUENCE" without "decent" or opposition over people. Something the US govt as well as the nation of islam "including" Mr so called louis is guilty as charged for. [/b]There is truth in this matter.

You could actually stretch this and loop in the vast majority of govts. around the world. Its all about power.

Rossike, thank you for your comment.

Also, as another side note.

Morpheus, we all know our experiences color our thinking and subsequently beliefs/conclusions. I reckon if I were an 85yr old black man who lived thru the terrible injustices of the civil rights era, I would be more sympathetic to someone like Farrakhan.

It just makes me wonder, what our brother Cap experienced to make him so 'angry' towards any and everything from the big bad "West".

As a side note,

   Isale and Cap, do you subscribe (either in whole or part) to "Black Liberation Theology"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology

Black liberation theology, sometimes shortened to black theology, is a relatively new theological perspective found in some Christian churches in the United States. It maintains that African Americans must be liberated from multiple forms of bondage — political, social, economic, and religious.

I know BLT has many variations and incarnations but in general, I hope you both understand what I mean. Cheers!

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morpheus24:
Hey see toasting!


Cap28, I dey jealous oh, na so your "fact checking" bring you babes.

HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!

Lol . . . abeg oh. No let my husband hear you Cap is is a fiery guy. I like his fire. But his politics ehn . . . on the other end of the spectrum from me. I have told him several times his anti-west bias is his greatest handicap. But still, he will remain my brother. My 'fight' is not with him at all.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=628461.msg7965193#msg7965193 date=1300824409]Funny, because white people would never ever never try to wipe out a race.  Never happened before.[/quote]And we have moved into the 21st century sister. Abi you no get the memo? 

The "white man" did not make the H1N1 virus, nor AIDS nor earthquakes nor any other disaster or disease. And anyone insinuating that kind of insanity is . . . insane.

Hiya, Jesoul! Still shilling for the beatific paternal white man, I see.

If that translates to "still speaking common sense" then by all means my dear. By all means. Attempts to relegate certain trains of thought that as "white-man" sympathizer simply becos they do not align with popular 'black liberation theology' . . . that tactic has been well over-used in this section. My dearest sister abeg try another one jare 

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cap28:
Hi Je Soul my sister how are  you doing?

My brother I am well. And double glad that you are well, live and kicking we thank God.

No i cant really understand why you dont take Farrakhan seriously given that he bases all of his arguments on FACT not opinions.  Would you be more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if he were a white man?

Hmmm . . . If you have to ask me this question, then you don't even know me at all.

 Those who have spoken against Farrakhan have listed the reasons why they don't trust him. Infact we had this discussion in the past. And we went over why I don't trust him or find him credible at all. Race/color has absolutely nothing to do with anything. And I thank God that I am able to look past race . . . which I guess is why some will see me as a 'white man' apologist. This is the same accusation folks like Oprah, Condy Rice, Bill Cosby and co face. Simply because they don't embrace head-first and brain-empty any and every idea from a 'black leader' they are immediately labelled as 'sell-outs' or 'white-man ___".

Let us as black people not allow ourselves to be bamboozled yet again by the very people who have historically shown us nothing but hatred,

And you need to stop living in the past Cap. Its 2011. White people today cannot be held guilty for what their forefathers did anymore than you can be held responsible for what your great grand children will do. This "us" versus "them" mentality. I don't quite understand it. I'm a christian, so perhaps this 'clouds' my ability to draw those kinds of 'distinctions'. All these 'black leaders' going about preaching black liberation theology, sowing seeds of hate and distrust of white people amongst blacks, constantly telling 'us' that we have been 'wronged' and need to 'fight', forever pepetuating this 'victim mentality' . . .

 please jor.

We need to move on from these victim hallucinations. White folks are not surreptitiously planning en masse to forever supress the 'black man'. That is a figment of Farrakhan's, Rev Wright and co's over-active imagination.

the western media demonises any black man who stands up to speak the truth, this is a well known fact, malcolm x, martin luther king, stokely carmichael, h rap brown, geronimo pratt - all these african american men were demonised, murdered, imprisoned or hounded out of america for exposing the truth about america, therefore it should come as no suprise that Louis Farrakhan is being given the same treatment - shine your eyes - don't allow yourself to be led by the nose.

If you can pin point anything that Farrakhan has said in the video clip that i attached which is untrue i would appreciate it if you would share it with us here on NL.

With regard to the H1N1 virus this is not an area that i have researched and i am not in the habit of refuting statements when i myself have no first hand knowledge or understanding of the matter, do you know something about the H1N1 virus which totally refutes Farrakhan's argument?

sis, im not attacking you personally just your argument.

Brother, I know   I have already told you that I highly regard your knowledge of history and world politics though I sharply disagree with you on almost everything. You're still my dude 

As for Farrakhan . . . my point is that he has a sordid history of making outrageous claims and accusations against this fictional 'white man', whom he refers to as 'demons' in his recent speech. Morpheus aptly terms him a 'relic from the civil rights movement' . . . I 1000% agree.

Pastor & Max,
nah, not too serious at all. Nothing a little anesthesia and Oxycodone couldn't solve

But Max now, you're spilling our secret. You know everything I know about movies, I learned under your able tutelage, pishaun pishaun, gbish gbish and Steven Seagal included.

Cap my brother, wassup now? 

I recall we've discussed Farrakhan a while back . . . beyond 'allegations' he was involved in X's murder . . . surely, you can understand why some of us cannot take seriously someone who asserts the H1N1 virus was made by white people in order to wipe out others.

morpheus24:
A relic from the civil rights era who talks about hypocrisy yet is part of an organzation, fully present and supportive of an action that destroyed one within its own organization who raised "decent" with what he beleived was an unjust act within the nation of islam. No negotiations with MR. X, just a quick assasination.

Right right we should really listen to people like this

A messiah of destruction and a prophet of doomsday prophecy's spawned in the 20th century, existing in the 21st century as a troglodyte who babbles about America's destruction.

FOOL!. America's demise is an inevitable event of equations that are  played out in an ever revolutionary cycle that leads to eventual evolutionary advancement of the Human Dilemma. Like its predecessors it will reign and will fade. Nothing he is saying is new nor informative.

There were great civilizations before America, there will be plenty after,
There were world powers before America, There will be world powers after America.
There were agrieved and exploited people before America, there will be the same after its depature.

Irrelevant rantings of a man who is out of his time. Another John the baptist of the 21st Century.

Hmmmmm, and the world still turns,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou99aOFzup4

Gosh! lol. I have liked and very much respected this Morpheus guy since that thread he sparred philosophy & capitalism with my good friend Negro. This post above is just  Lol. Bolded bits are just death  , somebody call an ambulance for Farrakhan.

Snowdrops, it is the spambot that is automatically banning Justwise. I will alert the admin.

Here's the link:

Image my snr brother, I am well. Thank you for asking and we thank God for His mercies. I hope you sef have been well?

Enigma, yes, everything is fine now. Thanks oga . You sef be religoushead? lol. I'm waiting for Jenwitemi to clarify . . .

Newmi, how body now? Thanks for notifying us. We'll take care of it.

Cutley, the snr admin has noted your comment. I believe all sections are constantly monitored for interesting topics. Its up to religion section members to post nice topics that are FP-worthy. Thanks!

^^ahh! one of my most favorite NLders of all time 

PastorSir, how you dey now? how body? how work? how family? how life? No vex oh say I left my post. I was under the weather and under the knife, but thank God all is well.

Okay oh, I've checked your name on the list of 'religiousheads' . . . though I suspect Jenwitemi may not have had you in mind.

Hello my darling Max I hope you have been well my dear.

Enigma, how body now? how family? how my small husband too?

@topic,
Jenwitemi, who exactly are the 'religiousheads'? just curious.

My people how una dey o

Chiogo, TB-forry and my other nba heads, wassup folks.