₦airaland Forum

Nigerians have a fundamental problem of poor reasoning!
Just imagine what this op wrote up there!

AlphaT1:
Bros I am not deviating, I am a realist and this is Nigeria, we don't have such number of institutions to accommodate a good number of candidates into those so called juicy courses you mentioned. So people will continue to study the non-juicy courses and would just have to make do with what they have. I told you that education opens your mind to think creatively and innovatively (irrespective of course of study). It lifts your IQ and gives you that analytical capacity to think smart, to birth ideas vis-a-vis problems vs solutions. An illiterate who only learnt a skill doesn't have this advantage. ....
The delivery of a talent/skill/idea by an educated person is not same with that of an uneducated person; what we commonly call packaging is an example-carpenter vs furniture maker, tailor vs fashion designer etc.
Our educational system is a major problem, we only cram textbooks or notes and give back in exams...Our IQ is not challenged on practical issues; problems vs solutions. In my masters in Unilag we were given notes to cram and pour back and get our >4points to qualify for PhD. In my masters in OSH (USA) we were given practical case studies to analyze and proffer solutions, articles to critique, scholarly activity to execute etc...
You don't necessarily have to practice what you studied...I am not practicing pharmacy, for instance, but pharmacy equiped me with strong analytical and innovative skills which I have been able to creatively apply in HSE....

It is better for one to attend vocational training institutions where one can learn those skills than going to waste years in the university studying a course that can't train them for a career.
Industrialized nations of the world such as China and the rest didn't have to train ALL their workforce up to the university level. In fact , many of their artisans have just the basic education.

The numerous courses you took in pharmacy school and the fact that the standard of study in pharmacy is top notch compared to some other courses is an advantage you had. You check it nau, you finished pharmacy where you got relatively better training and exposure, did internship in a hospital where you earned perhaps a 6 digits salary for one year, did youth's service where you also earned better than your peers in other courses. Then you finished and readily got lecturing job, the only problem here being your greed to make it big and fast, but you had everything to launch you into where you are now bro, be grateful! Many graduates come home from service with no dime to start life with and no prospect of getting a job. That's the point of the thread!

AlphaT1:
You wouldn't understand from afar. Do you know up to 50 pharmacists? I have over a 1000 of them as friends. We just concluded the PSN 91st Annual Conference in Ibadan last month where more than 5000 pharmacists gathered to discuss their challenges and the way forward. I own a community premise too (partnership) so automatically am a member of ACPN. All licensed pharmacists belong to at least one technical group/association. All the agencies (where pharmacists are licensed) were there to make presentations about their challenges, d details of which I can't put down here. Like I said hospitals and other public institutions are for the average kind of people.
I don't believe in average and I don't encourage anyone under me to.. I push my interns to the extreme (professionally). They think I am wicked but when they look back afterwards, they appreciate me for helping them become better persons!
If after 12 years of graduation, you are still sitting at home idle then something is wrong with such a person, perhaps he/she is a mediocre. I was lecturing, doing masters and also volunteering with an NGO....I met a guy during NYSC, he read anatomy but was good in maths ..2 yrs after service he was still looking for job...I encouraged him to go into 'statistical analysis'...he was complaining and giving excuses ...I pushed him more and more and he picked it up, he bought books and read, learnt some apps...he started with analysis of just one project and today he is an employer of 2 graduates in his company.
I don't encourage undergraduates (regardless of any course) to have these casual thoughts that they are going to school to come out and have a job....what if the job doesn't come? Can I volunteer? Can I learn a skill? Do I have any talent I can develop? Can I do a business? I taught my wife graphic design myself, she has also learnt video editing, movie make up/prosthesis, and catering services...She never wanted to but I persuaded her, she wanted a bank job that wasn't forthcoming. She is doing very very well today. I have also paid and learnt event planning and interior decor myself. So whenever i am less busy I help her and her staff out. For me learning never stops, education opens your mind to think innovatively! Wherever I live, I make it a point of duty to "push" as many interested unemployed youth as possible into a profitable venture beyond sitting and waiting for a govt job. No course is bad and no one deserves to remain unemployed!

Bro, you are deviating from the point of the thread. Multiplying one's income sources is a different thing all together! The point is, did your training as a pharmacist give you a job when you finished?? And the answer is yes. Many graduates cannot boast of that. That lecturing job you left is what many people have been fasting and praying for.

I wonder the satisfaction in going to the university to study anatomy only to graduate and go back to learn fashion designing, when the person could have done so with just basic o level education.

The point is, instead of studying some courses that would not train one for a career the person should simply go and learn a skill/trade, unless such person is from a wealthy home and can afford to study further and become a researcher in that field.

Mbaka should just continue to produce his music which I used to like and enjoy instead of taking sides in politics. Even if he interferes in politics, let him always try and be neutral at least when addressing his congregation.

AlphaT1:
Bros personally I am not complaining....but majority of my colleagues are really complaining, I discuss with these people almost everyday...na we wear d shoes and we know better where it pinches, you are looking at it from afar. A lot of people admire these guys from afar but get closer to them and you would understand better. Don't get me wrong, just like I said in my earlier statement, (I have also continued to mentor young pharmacy students) and my message remains; if you don't want to be much more frustrated with the profession, stay away from hospital practice. Space will not permit me to discuss the daunting challenges here; poor salary, stagnation, poor working conditions, no room for academic improvement, and no hope of getting to the peak of your career. etc. How can one be happy under these conditions. Yes pharmacy is lucrative especially if you are smart, and there are bountiful opportubities but Nigerian hospitals would only suck out your youthful strength as a young graduate and leave you dry.....It takes more than 20 years (of regular promotion) to become a director and earn around 400-500k. It wasn't even possible to rise to dat level in the past, it was only approved 3 or 4 years ago but some hospitals have refused to implement it up till now....
Hospital pharmacy is for an average-life kind of people not for the ambitious ones.....why would I go and study so hard and come and settle for "average?"....mbanu...you deserve better bros!

Hospital pharmacy practice like I stated before needs some improvement. I'm not disputing that. But that doesn't mean all other governmental agencies are same as hospitals. Like I stated before, I have pharmacists in other agencies who are doing fine.
The point of this thread is not even about job satisfaction but about getting the job at all. Job satisfaction is relative! Somebody can be in hospital practice and be satisfied while another person would not.
I know hospital pharmacists who are also into community practice using other pharmacists as superintendents and they are doing well.

You are here complaining while others who graduated since the past 12years have not gotten anything at all.

AlphaT1:
Bros job satisfaction is not only about the salary....majority of my coursemates and colleagues (both senior and junior) in those public institutions you mentioned are unhappy with their jobs...I just helped one senior pharmacist moved from Igbobi to Chemonics (NGO) recently, one left Nafdac for malaria consortium etc. This is my 9th year in HSE. I no be small pikin again na....I don reach to advise young ones based on experience and reality....my lecturer mates don reach senior lecturer o bros.......

Just like in every profession, there must be those who ain't satisfied! I know medical doctors who left medicine for business etc. Your use of the word majority is definitely an exaggeration because I know many pharmacists even in hospital and academia who are very happy with what they do. Humans are the most insatiable creatures on earth. While many other graduates are doing fasting and prayers to get even a bit of what you have, you are still complaining.

AlphaT1:
lolz... @ educate me..I am a pharmacist myself! I did my internship (12 months) and NYSC in the hospital before venturing into the academia (shortly) and then abandoning it for HSE.

You were in hospital pharmacy, not other governmental organizations. Agreed that the condition of hospital pharmacy practice needs some improvement, it is not all that bad.
The point is not you making millions from the go but at least having somewhere to start from. Imagine, you even had the luxury of starting lecturing job and then readily changed to HSE. Many graduates can't even get teaching jobs in secondary schools!

[quote author=NuhRegular post=73628934][/quote]OK...but you know your chances are higher after induction when you have been given your license.

NuhRegular:
Lol.. I'm awaiting induction.. Why you dey vex

I no dey vex.

NuhRegular:
I'm on that site all day oo

Have you tried to apply for any of the jobs posted there What's response do you get?

BTW, have you been inducted??



Just discovered you are still awaiting induction. Anyway, there are many pharmacies on the islands, why not walk into one and ask

One of the men is the SGF! This is an open secret.

The cabal in Aso rock is a very powerful one. Watch as they reinstate the corrupt NHIS boss.


Aisha is telling the truth! I admire her for standing for the truth...

NuhRegular:
Seasons greetings men of honour.. Your girl is badly in need of a Locum Job in Lagos.. So if you know anyone.. Or know anyone that might know someone.. Please link me up.. Thank you and God bless

Check www.rxevolution.com.ng/jobs


Are you on the islands?

Never choose a course that has no clear career path!!!
Don't allow anybody to deceive you!

Instead of studying courses with little or no demand in the labor market, please go and learn a skill or a trade. Many of us made the mistake and are in a better position to advise you today. Imagine studying a course up to masters level without a job and then you're told to go and do PhD. If you are not lucky to win a scholarship, how would you raise the money for PhD(both tuition fees and expenses on research) And then when you manage to finish PhD, you still need a godfather to get lecturing job! It's not worth the stress in my honest opinion.

AlphaT1:
If you are going in for pharmacy, equip yourself for NGO, private companies, or personal business (community practice, importation etc) to avoid frustration in hospitals n other public institutions.

Frustration in hospital and other public institutions how How many pharmacists working in public institutions do you know Like those of them in NAFDAC, NIPRD, SON, etc I know many working there and they are very comfortable. So, give your reason for the above post so I can educate you further.

Ogeh1:
[quwote author=Jman06 post=73376753]I wonder why NUC turns a blind eyes to the activities of schools like Madonna.

University that can't boast of qualified lecturers but relying on part-time lecturers from public universities who offer part-time services and in turn produce part-time graduates. Nonsense!

RIP to the dead

Don't just mention NUC here, bloody fools who bow down to brown envelopes, last time they came for accreditation of law faculty in the Okija campus, we students from various departments were forced to wear black and white and go and seat in the law e-library and pretend to be using the computers and told us when the NUC officials ask us we should tell them that we ve been using the library and it's been really effective, while in reality that was de very first time students were allowed into that library, it's always locked because that faculty (where students pay N1.2 million) doesn't have power connected to it. But trust me when one of the NUC official came I have to quietly tell him de truth but what did they do, the brown envelope from Fr Edeh played a better role

You did well by telling the truth.

sykeng:
you want to start what you can't finish, academic doctor cant match professional doctor? continue
PhD and MBBS which is more rigorous. don't be dumb abeg

You mean the "copy and paste" PhD holders we have in Nigeria
I knew why I used the word "many".

BTW, it is my opinion and you must not agree with me.

Anybody who has a doctorate degree, be it academic, professional or honorary has the right to bear the title. With the exception of the honorary doctorate, acquiring a doctorate whether academic or professional is not easy at all.
I'll like to make a case for the professional doctorate degree (e,g Pharm.D, MD or OD). Obtaining those degrees requires very rigorous training and I can state without mincing words that anybody who successfully obtains those degrees is very much qualified "to teach" in those fields.

Felixv:
Have you complained to the NASS - this same NASS have just approved the creation of more higher institutions without any consideration for funding

You can on one hand tolerate the damage our NASS are doing to our education system, and the on the other hand blame Buhari for everything.

If NASS can budget 150bn for themselves and earn huge salaries , I don’t see why they can’t approve a larger budget for education - this is their constitutional responsibility.

Just hear yourself... Did NASS reach agreement with ASUU or FG did

I'm not in support of the recent bill passed by NASS but remember it is still the FG that has the final say on whether the bill would be effected or not.

bbode1:
they are fighting for; improved and standard laboraties
more buildings for lecture halls
research centres for both students and lecturers
teaching aid facilities, like digital board for lecture, mic audio for large class etc.
this shuldnt be a problem for the govt, considering our global rating among nations. only uni ibadan and nsukka with covenant meet first 1000 universities in the world. and only covenant university have updated published journals. cause govt don release money to public universities.
1.2trillion the ASUU are askin of is just a litle above 10% of federal govt bugdet. its not compulsery they have to release the fund once. let them show comitment.
we need a technological advance country. not agriculture economy. God bless nija. pls padon my errors

Thank you! ASUU is not asking them to release all the money at once. Just show commitment by releasing another 200billion like Jonathan's government did and the I'm sure ASUU would call off the strike.

Felixv:
read this carefully --200bn out of the 1T promised ,this is a complicated issue and the government needs to find the money asap.


https://punchng.com/inside-ASUU-fgs-memorandum-of-action/

And so The Jonathan's government released 200billion naira and would have released another 200billion after the 2015 election if he had been elected. What is stopping Buhari from committing an equivalent amount of money into the universities All he does is lie to us that there's no money! Nigeria as a nation cannot afford 200billion to invest in university education per year until 1.1trillion naira is completed And you think I should believe that

I'm sure if government can release good money today towards meeting ASUU's demands, the strike would be called off.

Felixv:
why didnt pdp use this 'trick' also ---we all know during the pdp years JAMB could only remit to the government 50M naira ---now JAMB is remitting billions (7bn naira)

I would prefer further reduction and I am sure they government would be willing to listen to the students.

At least whatever improvements we have recorded in the education sector today are the results of PDP leadership. TETFUND, PTDF etc are products of PDP governments. Jonathan's administration released about 200billion in fulfillment of agreements reached with ASUU, how much has Buhari's government released I'm sure if Jonathan was reelected in 2015 we wouldn't be having another ASUU strike today. All APC government keeps giving us is excuse upon excuse.

This is a political strategy employed by FG to trick Nigerians into believing that they care about education. When I heard the news, I knew that this ASUU strike is nowhere near being called off.

What a useless government supported by gullible zombies!

This is a welcome development. Sometimes I laugh at employers who put all those obnoxious age restrictions. Age is hardly a factor in determining an employee's productivity! A 50years old man maybe far more productive than a 25yo.
All those age discrimination should be stopped, even in the private sector! It is contributing to the high unemployment rate in the country.
Employers should learn to always set rules of engagement without biases and make their employees abide by such rules regardless of their ages. Those who break such rules should be punished accordingly. I'm of the above view because some private employers have the mindset of employing younger people they can easily lord over! This is not how businesses work! There should be laws guiding every business and defaulters of such laws should be punished accordingly.
No wonder many businesses are failing.

ybman:
If I own an establishment, will I then employ a older person instead of a young energetic person?

Certainly, it will only apply to government agencies.
Yet, the once withen d age limits are still unemployed...

It depends on the sort of job you do in your establishment. If the job involves running a marathon race every day, then you can go ahead and employ a younger person. But if it is a job that requires mental prowess, emotional intelligence, honesty and trustworthiness, I'll advise you to jettison age restrictions and employ people based on merit.

This is a welcome development. Sometimes I laugh at employers who put all those obnoxious age restrictions. Age is hardly a factor in determining an employee's productivity! A 50years old man maybe far more productive than a 25yo.

All those age discrimination should be stopped, even in the private sector! It is contributing to the high unemployment rate in the country.

Employers should learn to always set rules of engagement without biases and make their employees abide by such rules regardless of their ages. Those who break such rules should be punished accordingly. I'm of the above view because some private employers have the mindset of employing younger people they can easily lord over! This is not how businesses work! There should be laws guiding every business and defaulters of such laws should be punished accordingly.
No wonder many businesses are failing.

I wonder why NUC turns a blind eyes to the activities of schools like Madonna.

University that can't boast of qualified lecturers but relying on part-time lecturers from public universities who offer part-time services and in turn produce part-time graduates. Nonsense!

RIP to the dead

RIP to the young man




I think many people no longer take out time to enjoy themselves, hence all these suicidal incidence.

Nonsense! Any long throated girl deserves whatever she gets!
An old adage says "na wetin dey sweet person dey kill am"