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dollarlander:
Remember, before the death of elder oyakhilome. He caught pastor chris in the white house, with a lady rubbing cream in his head, the jerry curl, his father wasn't happy with the state he met them especially pastor chris wearing boxers lying on the floor the lady on top rubbing cream.

Elder oyakhilome then ordered pastor Anita to come back home from UK and when she arrived pastor chris moved to the church.

Is that rumour also?

Not just a rumor but a very childish one. Do people cream hair on the floor ? You heard such nonsense and believe? And father will travel all the way from Benin to LAGOS without the son knowing ? Even till he enter the room , with all the security men and they couldn't say dad is around . Until he CAUGHT THEM! . Silly story

Eastbay:
And for me, I stopped listening to the so-called Rev. Chris a while ago.

Stop cheating yourself .it's you that' is missing a lot

but this divorce confirms him as unfit to be a bishop over God's people. He cannot pilot his domestic affairs yet he wants to be a pastor.1 Tim 3:5

Wrong application of scripture. his family didn't leave Christian faith . Did the betray of judas and denial of Peter make Jesus less anointed? Or did it made Jesus less a leader. If someone walks out of your life you simply move on and maintain focus. If not that will be satin tool for every minister.

Eastbay:
Yeah right.
Why doesn't this your super nice go to Igbobi and perform his "miracles"?

Did Jesus go to hospitals? They brought people to him rather . If South Africa or Canada is far for you ,the Healing school is coming to LAGOS nigeria this year

Just meet the leader or a member of the choir. They will tell you what to do . You may not even need to write.. for some churches all you need do is just to go for the choir meetings or rehearsals

Yes o

donnie:
I think I have better things to do with my time. Besides, last I checked the healing school has grown in leaps and bounds, christians and ministers have visisted from about every nation on earth and we now have healing school sessions holding in Canada (in addition to SA and Nigeria).

Not to even talk about the fact that members of the first family in south Africa received healing and are now members of. The Church. The First lady is already a member and a leader. The president attends. Many of our programs there including the last crusade this year.

Well the Bible is true and there's nothing anyone. Can do about it.
If you're still not convinced. The Bible uthenticates itself . It's a book of prophecy . If you read the. Bible ,you will see prophecies. Come to pass. Past present . It's more current. Than tomorrow newspapoer

God is not angry with you. Never make promises you don't plan to keep.The consequence of not keeping to promise is that your word may lack authority in the realm of the spirit as of one who lacks power . Your word can't ,I've angel nor devil . Because such a one is seen as someone who's word lacks integrity.

And when you make promise . Discipline yourself to do or fulfil it. It doesn't have to be convinient to serve God . If will do only convinient things we can't serve God. The cross was not convinient for christ. Prayer ,fasting ,giving and evangelism are not always convinient . They are sacrifices . That's what make a sacrifice

2 Timothy 4:2
2 Proclaim the message; persist in it whether convenient or not; rebuke, correct, and encourage with great patience and teaching.

As much as I agree with you that offerings should be freewill. Every giving is not offerings . There were also fixed flat levies in the bible days . For example . The redemption money is five shekels flat as a levy .

Numbers 18:16
16 And those that are to be redeemed from a month old shalt thou redeem, according to thine estimation, for the money of five shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary, which is twenty gerahs.

Secondly before we Label a minister as false or criticize a minister for a particular thing we must try and understand the principle behind the action. I'm not saying that certain principles cannot be abused. But we should give a general condemnation to a deed.

When Jesus told the young rich ruler to go and sell all his belonging and give them out . I don't think it was a cheerful thing to the guy . In fact he ran away . Sometimes a minister helps brethren in coming out of their greed and inability to give . And if such is a Puerto action of faith it will always produce result .

The Corinthian church made pledges but didn't fulfil them Paul had to rebuke them many times for their holding back and carnality. Not because they don't have but they were not giving at their level of ability. And if you don't give at the level of your ability. You can't receive at the level of your grace of capacity. So such people can be exhorted or encouraged to do . The widow Elijah met was at first unwilling to give him her last meal but he exorted her and she gave him first and both of them were blessed.

donnie post =43718607:
. I have told you before, PLEASE leave scripture interpretation for born again spirit filled believers.

He still did them by the father .he has his will to do and not to do. Just the way a criminal can't attribute his action to Satan . He has a choice to yield to Satan or to God

Luke 13:32
And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.

2 Timothy 4:6-7
For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith

Our opening Scripture is so profound and touching. The Apostle Paul was writing from prison, anticipating his own death. He knew his life was about to be poured out; he was ready to go and be with the Lord, but not without affirming, “ ...I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith.” Paul’s conviction about the Gospel was absolute; and this was obvious in the kind of life he lived. He was sold out to the Gospel.

Your greatest passion should be the spread of the Gospel around the world. Jesus said in Matthew 24:14, “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” These compelling words capture the urgency and need to preach the Gospel to every man, woman, boy and girl, and keep at it until the knowledge of God’s Word and His righteousness cover the earth as the waters cover the sea.

I’m sure you must have wondered at the commitment of those who wreak havoc through terrorism in different parts of the world. They believe in a wrong cause, and are willing to die for it. Now, if such folks could be willing to die (and are dying) for something that’s so wrong and hurtful to society, how much should you be ready to put into the true message—the Gospel—which is the only hope and power for man’s salvation? How far are you willing to go for the Gospel?

Paul said, “I’m ready to be offered”; in other words, “I’m ready to die for the Gospel.” This was his mindset. In Romans 1:16, he said, “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”

How often do you intercede and agonize for lost souls, with tears and intense passion? When you speak, can others feel that intense passion and compassion you have for the salvation of lost souls? How much time, effort, energy, and resources do you commit to the Gospel?

Be inspired always to win souls, and pray for lost souls with passion. Nothing should matter more to you than to see those for whom Jesus died, living for Him.


John 4:31-34 In the mean while his disciples prayed him, saying, Master, eat. 32 But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. 33 Therefore said the disciples one to another, Hath any man brought him ought to eat? 34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

1 Corinthians 4:1-2
Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God. 2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that

2 Year Bible Reading Plan:Acts 26:24-32, Psalm 71-72

Gombs:
Pheeeeeew, i see you've met the man vooks?... a tiring bloke who always get personal when put in a tight angle.

Maybe it's another moniker for Newmi bomboy

vooks:
I never thought I would find you this furious. So all this veneer of meekness covers a monster

Not furious at all just applying scriptures

Proverbs 26:5
Answer a fool according to his folly,
lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Boomark:
Joagbaje self, didn't you understand or see anything from staggerman's post. Read Eze 28:13-15. Stop at v15. Didn't you see he was in Eden and was perfect until iniquity was found in him. At that point he became satan.

@ staggerman.
Lucifer became satan in v15. When sin was found in him. We did not make him satan.

Your article made me see more loop holes in trinity doctrine. Of course Christ did not make a mistake when He said 'our God is one.'

You know in prophecy it doesn't always follow time line or chronology . It can move from future to past vice versal.

vooks:
How did I talk silly? You threw in medicine to show the 'innocence' of masturbation and I went along. You see how silly you sound?
'One can masturbate for medical reasons such as sperm extraction therefore masturbation is no sin'. Similarly, one can group your wife's parts without sinning since her gynecologist does it. Let's avoid stupidity when examining doctrine.


Yeah right, so her gynecologist is covetous?

What has their 'mind and right values' got to do with dressing?
Can you give examples of dressing that goes against their 'mind and right values'?

How am I being silly? You said watching porn is just watching a movie and there is nothing wrong with watching a movie. So there shouldn't be anything wrong either with shooting a movie, right? And by extension, there shouldn't be anything wrong with shooting porn. Your analogies are wild and am glad you can see that

I have examined your analogies. Your reasoning is since masturbation is done medically or for medical reasons, it is no sin. I simply chose something else done medically; touching your wife's genit@lia.

Lustful thoughts are not sin? What is sin Joagbaje?

well since you must use vulgar illustrations to express your dirty carnal mind. you ought to have used you mothers whatever as illustration. people like you always launch pesonall attacks when your wrong hypocritical theology crumbles like pack of cards in the face of light. enjoy your folly dear

analice107:
Jesus warned us about the spirit of the Anti-Christ which will manifest in false prophet's, and their only tool for deception will be signs and wonders. Ground breaking "miracles" which will even convince the elect that these things are true and from God. The Bible says, they will even cause fire to come down from heaven in broad day light, in full view of people watching

i don't know which scripture in particular you're quoting but i don't think that scripture refers to the church age. and if I'm correct , if we apply scripture wrongly we may judge wrongly.

we judge a man of God by his doctrine not by his miracles. we can't just be labelling people as false just because they do something unconventional .

, the Bible never instructed us to walk around picking up serpents to show that we are supernatural. The bible never instructed us to go buy Gamalin20 and drink to show that the holy spirit dwells in us so will be unharmed. That will be working against the covenant. "Thou shall not test the Lord thy God".
What this says is that, When Satan comes against you using these means, He, Satan, will not succeed, because that fight will not be yours to fight, but God's.
Apostle Paul never went around picking up snakes to show that he was such a great Apostle, but when Satan tried fastening himself around Paul once, he shook him off into the fire, and was unhurt.

we should take scripture for what it says. he didn't say satan. he said serpent.

, if you the man of God that I know, is cornered by an enemy, and are given poison in a drink without your knowledge, you will drink it and come out nourished, but if you are told that there's poison in that drink, but you go ahead to gulp that drink down, to show yourself, you will die sir.

lets leave that for my faith. .

ask, Why didn't Christ turn stones to bread when Satan ORDERED him to? Was it because he couldn't? He turned water into wine remember. You don't do anything for show as a christian. It most serve a purpose to glorify God

i agree with you we don't need to tempt God. but when you teach with demonstrations as example its not tempting God but rather to stir people faith in the word. jesus cursed an innocent tree and used it to illustrate to the desciples that not only can they do such to a tree the can make a mountain move by faith.

Christ warned his followers about these false prophets and their dicievable miracles, the apostles asked the master, how then shall we identify them? What did the master say? Look at their fruits. For by their fruits you shall know them? What are fruits?

we shouldn't mix two things together. thats why i would have loved specific verses so that we avoid misapplication. when jesus talking about false prophets in the verse i think you're quoting he wasn't talking about miracles. miracles can't be fruits to watch out for. but wrong doctrine. the spirit of error is seen in what they profess

at the church today, everyone is after miracles. They are great in talking but dead in doing.

miracles are means to draw men to christ . but its teaching that cause them to grow. miracles will always abound where the holyghost has access.
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one talks about unforgiveness, malice, fornication, stealing of any form, giving and taking bribe. Murder by way of gossip, back biting, abortions. No one Miracle performer is interested in teaching his congregation geniune repentance which comes with RESTITUTION. how many Christians today even know that word RESTITUTION?

The church is the ground and pillar of truth where the whole counsel of God is taught. I'm not aware of any bible based church where the whole counsel of God is not taught. even right from foundation class or new convert class.

, in this age and time we shd be weary of miracles that serves no purpose. Satan is on the lose now like never before. Occultism is being practiced openly in churches today, that's because even us who shd know better claim it's God's power. If ministers of Satan can't perform (supernatural) magic inform of miracles, then I don't know what the likes of Chris Angel are doing.

Fact that there is deception doesn't take away the original. why should we be afraid of the real because of fake. and when we see a miracle why should we see it as false as a first response. when we hear the word prophets why should our first response be false prophet . the enemy is systematically ejecting unbelief in the body. because the bible fortold of the last days great outpouring and manifestations. its a sin of blasphemy when we attribute miracles by the holyghost to the devil. at least if we care enough lets investigate and judge it by the word. especially the doctrines

Yommisam:
We all know you cannot cast out demons with a phone Bible. Thats why I dislike it totally

Neither can you cast out Devils with bible in print . You cast Devils with words from your mouth

vooks:
You are really out on a limb. Is it sin to put my finger inside your wife's sexual organs?

You don't have to talk silly to make a dumb point. The bible is clear on the issue of adultery .

Proverbs 6:29
So he that goeth in to his neighbour's wife;
whosoever toucheth her shall not be innocent.

What is sin?

Covetousness in this context

What has honor to do with dressing? Care expounding that?

Women are to dress modestly and decently . It's about them ,their mind and right values .

No it's not. So would you object to your wife shooting porn?

Stop being silly dear . And stop getting personal . I've told you porn is indecent . If you keeping getting personal with insult I will stop responding to you. If you have a sensible point . Lay it out from scriptures and any other reference . And if you run out of options . Just meditate on my points and leave there.

Porn is no sin, right?

Tell us

esere826:
I'm not really concerned about the sin vs no-sin part
the point that i tried to make was that this your logic is shaky: if masturbation for health aint sin, then masturbation for recreation aint sin either.

Sure . I don't know if I really get your point anyway

Perhaps, you could use some other logic to buttress your point, but definitely not that one. Anyone with a little intellect will tear it down easily

Well , it's not a topic I really like to discuss . It's just facts been laid out.

thanks derrick

vooks:
So you saying the fact that it is employed medically is what makes it no sin?

are you saying its a sin to do it medically in sperrm count test?

and if it won't be a sin medically why should it be a sin otherwise?

thoughts are not masturbation and nobody said they are, but if one is a sin and it is fueled by the other, both are sin,

lustful thought are not sin

which is precisely why Peter prescribes sobriety in dressing by women

sobriety in women dressing is about their honour and self control and not about about giving men lustful thoughts. a man that is lusting is the one who has issues with lust.

let me ask you. Is watching porn a sin?

its a movie . is watching a movie a sin?

porn is just indecency. kills spiritual fire like any fleshly thing

esere826:
^^ not joining in the debate, but I,m not sure of this logic.
Its like saying that if executing a man or man slaughtervis not a sin, then murdering is no sin.
In all cases, one takes another's life.

Don't be quick to say that the bible refers to murder. Although translators try to distinguish this and it can actually be inferred from reading the bible, however, from my studies, the actual original word used doesnt have that much of a distinction

So is taking another man's life a sin? Taking another man's life. Is different from murder. You may take life. In battle or in execution or by accident.

Evey know sin is clearly spelt out in the Bible

vooks:
My broda,
If you are going to take a stance on masturbation on the basis of its mention you will be in trouble because we know there are countless things we consider sin not because they are mentioned but because they violate a scriptural principle or the will of God. Masturbation is not forbidden but we know it is attended by lustful thoughts, and we know fornication and adultery means more than the very act. It was amplified by Christ to cover thoughts. An activity that ministers lust remains a sin regardless of the frequency it is committed.

Talking of frequency, how often should your wife sleep with another man before you conclude she has committed adultery?

Back to whether something is backed by a verse, would you eat human flesh?

i didn't say masturbation is ok. its a bad habit and it can be demonic also. but not a sin against God. its your body. people maturbate for medical test. if its not a sin to do it for medical test then it shouldn't be a sin otherwise. secondly lustful thought is not the same as mastubation. its a different thing on its own

analice107:
I don't agree sir. If we go by miracles or what they are made to look like, then Christianity will flat on its knees. Miracles do not define Christianity as they a lot of charlatans performing magic and creating illusions in the eyes of men.

miracles and christianity goes together. without the supernatural christianity is like any other dead religion. and i think its wrong to call someone a charlatan because of supernatural. besides a charlatan does not have supernatural .

think the question should be, what is the purpose of pouring hot water on his congregants? Did Christ or the Apostles ever performed any miracle for show? All miracle must serve a purpose, all must be to the salvation of a soul. How does eating life snakes or being poured with hot pour glorify God?

Its demonstration of power . paul says the preaching is not in words but in demonstration of power . jesus said we will pick serpents . i don't know what connection picking serpents has with salvation.

OLAADEGBU:
Which one is 'cherry picking again'? Joseph Prince said and I quote:

"The bottom line is that the Holy Spirit never convicts you of your sins, He never comes to point out your faults".

Are you saying the Holy Spirit never convicts us of our sins? The quote above was taken from his book, 'Destined to Reign'. Are you saying he was only communicating to believers? Does His audience only include believers?

Firstly the Bible verse he quoted was clear that Jesus was talking to the world for not believing on him ,, so the conviction is about salvation for the sinner. Secondly the sin is umbelieve in. Christ. That verse speaks for itself . And lastly it's talking about sin. Not sins. Which refers. To sin nature.

So the Christian. Don't have the sin. Nature . But he may fall into a sin or sins.

God has given us his word to. Correct us as we study it we grow out of errors.

1Pe 2:1 — 1Pe 2:3
2​ Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

Her also. Corrects us through words. Of. Exhortation
..
Hebrews 3:13
But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

But I get your point . If God can't correct us. We are bastards . But Joseph prince is dealing with condemnation which comes from our conscience which we may attribute to God . He is not condemning us .and he has. Given. Us his word to guide out lives to live a pleasing life to him. Because we have a new nature sometimes when. We do wrong. We sense it.

The issue with our sin is not with God . He has dealt with. It. When s Christian sin he has issue with the devil who may afflict him and. He has issue with his conscience which may condemn him

Question is DID ANNYONE GET BURNT OR HURT? if the answer Is NO , then take it as part of end time revival of the power of God he should rather be commended for the boldness to put the word to. Work.

dollarlander:
Even if you don't want to talk, some folks out there will spill words out of your mouth. But I am here to correct some over zealous Christians who often forget about Christ, the one that died on the cross to give life to you and I.

I came across this picture somewhere on the Internet and I was shocked. How can an unlearned Christian babe equate a Pastor to what Jesus did on the cross. How many Pastors are ready to leave their lofty office and died for anybody to conquer the world.4

Stop putting Pastors at the edge of getting into spiritual troubles.

How can someone who could not conquer a MULATO wife, could have conquered the world. I am pissed off.
Please stop this non sense.

There is no issue here at all . It's based on simple bible fact

1 John 5:4-5
4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Avoid criticism of others , since you don't know the principle behind their actions . At the end of the day you that feel very spiritual may just turn out to be the carnal person. If you are born of God you've conquered the world also

President Buhari has confirmed the membership of Nigeria in the Islamic Coalition against terrorism formed last year by majorly Islamic countries at the instance of Saudi Arabia to fight international terrorism.

The admittance is coming barely two weeks after the president had stated that Nigeria was not a member.


It will be recalled that while speaking with Saudi Arabia King, Salman Bin Abdul-Aziz during his trip to the country penultimate week, president Buhari said Nigeria would support the coalition even though it wasn’t a member.
at Sunday, March 06, 2016

dubemnaija:
What could be the cause?

It is the devil fighting your prayer life. To overcome it you rebuke that. Spirit and pray for as long. Time. 30mins or more. Especially in. Tongues

Gospels:
This was a man who made known to people the brief history of God's generals like smith smigglesworth,kathyrn kulman,alexander dowie,john wesley e.t.c and the pentecostal churches,orthodox,lutherean denominations through the grace of God in his life.but today i can't see the grace there any longer in him to preach the gospel.today he just a mere twitter fan who just wakes up in the morning and tweets buddies and make out funny pics and tag friends,go on vacation nothing more.he might still be preaching but ain't as relevant as when he still wrote God's general maybe i think his scandal in 2001 also contributed to his downfall you can check out on this link:
http://articles.latimes.com/2001/dec/22/local/me-17193.
Cause there is a wise saying that says "SCANDALS MAKES YOU LOOSE CREDIBILITY"
You can check out some of his face book uploads to see what am saying hardly do you see gospel message about christ but all what he does now his to repackage his already sold God's general in a way whereby kids now have God's generals kids version why because he has nothing to offer again even if you check his channels he preaches the things he has written in his books long ago you can check out his channel on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/user/robertsliardonmin/videos
All what you see are God's general still being talked about only different from the first location he preached it and some of his other books the same thing he preaches i mean verbatim.its more like he goes back to read his previously written books in other to know what to preach.if i may ask is it that God has stopped giving him new revelations or what?cause by what he updates in his page shows that he is far away cause even preachers like benny hinn,oyedepo,umai upkai,olukoya,adeboye evn some american word of faith preachers don't update such pics on their pages like what i mean is that the roberts liardon of today is a joke.check this out

You can't judge. Him .. it's God that determines the scope of. A man's calling. Supposing his major assignment on earth is just to produce the book and video GODS GENERALS which was a success and. Still a success. John the Baptist primary assignment was to introduce the people to the Messiah. And after that any other thing was jara.

julimax:
Julimax..com

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