igbo2011: Which Zimbabweans left? WHat class were they in? How many people live in Zimbabwe? How many people are a fan of him in Zimbabwe? Answer those questions.
Zimbabweans that were left after Mugbabe'sy political land redistribution policy were hungry Zimbabweans, those who couldn't afford to buy maze-meal or afford any decent life. The lands were given to Mugabe's top party officials who got no interest in commercial farming, they can't even afford the invest the type of money white farmers invested in those farms.
MDC party members were hunted down and tortured by Mugabe's green boy (thugs), white farmers were killed in their farms and many ran to South Africa, Namibia, Nigeria etc.
People in rural areas were forced to sing Mugabe's praises, attend rallies in exchange for maze-meal, no other newspaper were allow to operate in Zimbabwe then apart from the Herald which is govt newspaper bought for them by Nigeria after their independent in 1980
Mugabe was the darling of the West, he enjoyed all the goodies from the West, Mugabe pushed for the sanction against Nigeria from Commonwealth during Abacha's regime and Nigeria was suspended.
Since the land is now in their hands why are they not producing food to feed their people? Why are they depending on food aid agencies?
South Africa suffered the brunt of the crisis as thousands of Zimbabweans flew to South Africa
morpheus24: Angry black Africans that think they can't come back to their countries and fight the good fight. They escape to western lands and act as if they really care about the continent and all atrocities that have been committed in it.
Don't mind those hypocrites, they still live in the west, enjoying the security and those resource the west stole from Africa.
Don't take them seriously because they are all two faced lairs.
Don't tell lies. That was an article by an independent journalist not attached to 'mainstream' outlets like the BBC and CNN who feed you your pro-imperialist news.
Mugabe SAVED Zimbabweans from permanent servitude to whites on their ancestral land. Let us know when you're ready to hand over YOUR village land to your white masters. The Zimbabweans had had enough.
They are by those who got their lands back, and those who know the deal.
Because African countries are for the most part, led by western stooges.
It did not 'die out'. And they 'showed sympathy' because they were truly independent nations with govts not compromised by subservience to the west.
Speak about what you know. Land redistribution changed the face of Zimbabwe, gave the majority a stake in the economy, and removed a historical INJUSTICE. Does that mean anything at all to you?
Things got better because the west no longer had an excuse to impose economic sanctions, since their man Tsvangerai had been incorporated into the govt. It was a very smart, strategic move by the Mugabe govt.
Before the land redistribution policy, MILLIONS OF ZIMBABWEANS WERE HOMELESS AND LANDLESS.
When you get your nose out of the west's (sorry ''international community's'') asss, you will come to know that generations of Zimbabweans will thank Mugabe for giving them back their country.
BBC propaganda. White 'farmers' produced 90% cash crops like tobacco and coffee for export, banking the proceeds overseas, or using same to fund lavish lifestyles in Zimbabwe, surrounded by black servants. At one point, one white man was said to own enough land in Zimbabwe to form a small country. They lived like lords, as the blacks sweated the land, and were confined to small holdings. All that has changed, THANKS TO BOB MUGABE AND ZANU PF.
The economy collapsed AFTER the west imposed economic sanctions on Zimbabwe, not after the white farmers were driven out. That's more BBC propaganda.
Incidentally, many whites who fled are now begging to be let back into the new, booming Zimbabwe, where blacks are equal to everyone else.
Some of the media have noticed the success of Mugabe's strategy:
I was in Zimbabwe when Zimbabwe was good and was there when Zimbabwe went down dramatically, so i witnessed it, felt the hardship as a student then, i'm still in touch with all my friends and course-mates including those who managed to escape to South Africa and the UK.
You know nothing about Zimbabwean prob, you keep googling up garbage online to paste here. Arguing with you is waste of time and energy because you don't know jack.
paniki: Zimbabwe's economy is made up almost entirely of South African companies owned by whites. Zimbabwe's minerals are mined by South African mining houses in partnership with the Zim government. A huge chunk of Zimbabwe's population fled Zim and now lives illegally in South Africa. Zimbabweans symbolically "own" the land but that land continues to be utilised by capitalistic South Africans who are pushing their agenda to neo-colonise Southern Africa. The South African government has not been hard on Zim as the west wants because the government knows that SA business has strong ties to Zim and will lose economically if they make a political blunder.
You just need to come to SA and stay for a week thereafter go to Namibia, Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland, Zimbabwe and parts of Mozambique to see that SA business has integrated itself so deep into these economies that they might as well be part of South Africa.
So Zim is not as flowery as Rossikk fulsome take on it. He has been misled by the internet
Well said. Rossikk can keep reproducing Mugabe's speech materials to deceive people who know nothing about Zimbabwe not me.
Rossikk: ^^You seem not to realise that a small minority of whites OWNED 85% of Zimbabwean land up till a few years ago. This land was not just farmland, but the land under which vast mineral resources sat. The whole Mugabe land redistribution program which made the west demonize him, and place economic sanctions on his country, was aimed at redressing this historical imbalance/injustice. This is why Mugabe and his ZANU PF party are African HEROES. Today, Zimbabwe has survived the sanctions, the land has been redistributed, the economy is booming, and the black majority are no longer peasants and servants on their own land, but now have a stake in it.
I know this is not the version you've been fed by the imperialist media. But that's ok.
That is just Mugbage's speech abstract you just re-produced. Zimbabwean problem is man-made and that man is Robert Mugabe. Zanu-PF and Mugabe are not regarded as hero in Africa, you just made that line up, very very few countries in Africa helped Zimbabwe. . . Libya and South Africa showed some sign of sympathy but that died out.
Land distribution was political and it failed to solve the economy problem, things started getting better after the formation of Unity govt, and the adoption of multi-currency policy because zim-dollar was worthless hence the adoption of US dollar.
The return of aid agencies helped alot because they looked after thousands of homeless Zimbabweans who were the victims of Mugabe's land-redistribution policy. Zimbabwe will go down if MDC leaves the Unity-govt agreement because only Morgan Tsvangirai is the only one who can be trusted by the international community.
White farmer contributed more than 80% of Zimbabwean economy because they are commercial farmers and invested alot in the farming and when most of them were driven out of Zimbabwe by Mugabe's thugs and war- veterans things went horribly wrong and the economy collapsed.
madaic1: Malaysia, Lol, Everyone with his/her thing to say, So easy to support one and so easy to take one out,
Nigeria, lol, I agree with just everyone, but what do we understand about Tarnishing the image of a country!! The deed has been done, they have been caught, what is the world doing to stop this? Nothing, Because no matter what we all say, the trend will never end, Tarnish or make the country better, there is one out there to either ruin it, or to make it a better one, but despite all you say today, crime has a definition, and it will forever exist, and if you don't do it, your fellow brother will.
Now, i raise the issue of the yahoo boys, They hurt others to get cash from another just to live a good life for themselves, i work in an organization where a lot of our people go to other parts of the world, bring in things to sell, and the people from our organization take a chunk of it for themselves, what do you call that? A better life? A ship was once missing in our country, what was in this ship, and today, no one talks about it? Customs posted for recruitment at a time, and with the way things are in the country, one leaves the NYSC system to become a yahoo boy, take it or leave it, we are all in the system, no matter how much we try to fight it, what will be will be, customs recruited 600 people from the whole country, JONATHAN, Our so-called President selected 300 from his country, and the top men out there selected 300 more, now, what does this lead to? Patience? We all have wished for a better life as kids, and we all hoped for something better, but a joke was once played in by BASKET MOUTH, that the country we are in, this NIGERIA, Chooses your destiny for you, what you do, is that what you love to do? Think about it? Do you think these yahoo boys love what they do? Do you know what it takes to convince someone to do something? I once ran out of a bank job, a marketing one at that, and i knew a friend who would go to different churches, white churches and have rings al over his hands and legs, just to convince people to open an account with so so amount, and in the so-called banks we are in, do you know what goes on? Why do you talk of things we know and ignore, Bola whatever was released after he stole over 100 billion, and a pastor was asked to preach after his release, and one of us who tarnish the image of the country, attends this church. Someone once gave a pastor 400million naira as a gift, the question is what does he do when he isn't registered in the forbes list as a billionaire, and the pastor accepted it, KICC Pastor ran from the UK because he was going to purchase another big expanse of land, and then the UK Authorities caught up with him and asked a question, what do you do for a living, he replied, i am a pastor, and they asked, where did you get the cash to purchase this land from, and he says, the offering from the church, and they said, if a lot of people earn so much, give us a list of the members in your church and what they earn, and he ran out, How do we define crime? The boys who buy cars because they stole money from the whites, the boys who go to Malaysia and get caught? Why don't you also think about the other people and what they have done to us? You hear all the time about Nigeria, Nigeria, Nigeria, do you know much about the other countries and the crime from within it, do your research, i am not saying what they have done is good, but when you talk of justification, i think you and i have no right, Let the world rule its course, and the skeletons in those guys cupboard are out already, what skeletons do we have in ours?
Its amazing how much time you spent writing this garbage and at the end you said nothing sensible.
zebudaya: Nasty Australian woman talking down to them. Calling them lowest of the lowest scum. Oyinbo man caused the global recession betting on risky derivatives. Not 1, Not one of them has gone to jail. They ruined lives on a bigger scale, and got away scot free :Bank of America, Barclays Capital, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Wells Fargo Securities. Scoundrels and thieves.
P.S Those 419 dudes are scum, the Wall Street guys are scum too. White man ruins our image and manages to keep his clean even though he's doing the same thing.
When that white woman said that those criminals are the lowest of the lowest she is 100% right, she was referring to worthless human beings like you and those thieves.
Africans are among the bankers who caused the recession, last year a guy from Ghana who works for one of the top banks in London was arrested for causing his bank billions of dollars in illegal betting.
White man did not ruin your image, scums like you did, criminals like you look for every silly opportunity to blame the whole world for your criminal activities apart from yourself.
Rossikk: Australia, like the USA, China, Brazil is one country with one central govt controlling all resources and policy, while Africa was divided into 57 countries, each doing their own thing, to serve western interests. For Africa to become like Australia, Africa will need to centralise control of all its resources. In short, Africa needs to UNITE, economically AND politically. You cannot have a resource rich land mass divided into 57 countries. It makes them open to exploitation and manipulation by greedy foreigners. Can you imagine a tiny resourceless island like the UK imposing economic sanctions on Zimbabwe, a country rich in diamonds, gold, iron ore, copper, and myriad agricultural resources?
Shouldn't it be the other way round?
This can happen because Africa is not united with a single powerful central govt, but is divided into tiny 'countries' that are not powerful enough on their own to resist the world powers' machinations.
Are you dreaming or what? Africa having a single power?
We never address the real issue affecting Africa rather we considerate on blame game. Can you tell me why Zimbabwe should suffer even with those natural resources you mentioned? Why would UK sanction have any effect on Zimbabwe?
coolguy011: Abeg!!! Please remove Zimbabwe from that least. Ask anyone who has travelled there including "Oyinbo" that travel. there in droves. This is the problem with us, we want to judge others based on what we watch and hear from CNN and other propaganda medias. I have just come baclk from Zimbabwe, I was SHOCKED, by its economic recovery in less than two years. This is among the top 5 countries in Africa to visit. This country is BEAUTIFUL, well organised, clean, SAFE {unlike my homeland) great nightlife and beautiful, cultured, polite, very clean and well educated people. My advise is to research, and update your info by READING and educating yourselves before you post unfounded baseless facts. I have not been to Cuba, but I do know that people definitely live better and a poor man will get better healthcare thatn a rich man in Nigeria. Sorry truth be told, no need to cheat ourselves.
According to UN 2011 report Top 10 worst countries to live in are all in sub-Saharan Africa:
10. Guinea 9. Central African Republic 8. Sierra Leone 7. Burkina Faso 6. Liberia 5. Chad 4. Mozambique 3. Burundi 2. Niger 1. The Democratic Republic of the Congo
Zimbabwe you saw last year is bad compared to what Zimbabwe used to be, the whites lift in numbers, Zimbabwe you saw is still trying to recover and that will depend on what happens in next election else it will go back to begging plate. This is not about CNN or Western propaganda. . .
hisson3: Mu che che che che che che! I laugh in man utd, Chelsea next time remove d log from ya eye b4 u see d speck in man utd.upon say your defenders no dey injured u still dey mess up, if man utd had a complete defense we all know na top we for dey.
Please no excuse, every team got their injury prob, Blankburn were missing about 8 first team players and still beat you guys at home
montelik: Some Chelsea fans were too busy using energy on other clubs, forgetting their own needs. Like d guy calling other peoples wives ugly, when he has "sutek" waiting for him at home.
Yes they were busy talking about Arsenal while their players can't find the net even as they are paid far more than Arsenal players.
Those pensioners need to retire and start drawing their pension ahahahahahahahahah
1025: from the look of things now, the young gunners are not gunning anything at the moment so there is an urgent need for old gunners. i will recommend the likes of zidane, paul schools, maldini, giggs, lehman, viera, kanu and any old player we can think of. did i forget dennis bergkamp? wenger and his fans have gone mad. the club and their fans lack reasons for celebration so they celebrate anything. wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, henry is back. wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, fabregas is gone wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, fabregas is planing to come back to arsenal wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, nasri is a judas. wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, man city don sack adebayor how can u be called young gunners and u still parade and celebrate henry that is above 50 yrs.
Chelsea lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! we are on top!!!!!!!!!!!!
pcnwamadi: it baffles me how evrybody wants to go to UK wen notin is even hapnin dere, people are so happy wen dey get UK visa, i feel so ashamed of Nigerians, tufiakwa,
pcnwamadi aka soneztrade Nigeria should be shamed of people like you. fraudulent Nigerians like you is what is wrong with Nigeria today
loverher: Hello Guys, Thanks for your replies.However[b] i want to know how people get a statement of account that goes into Millions of Naira.[/b]For example,I know of a Guy studying at Richland College,New York.He used a Fake statement of account together with all those he did it for.Infact he charged like 300,000 for each applicant and they where all given visas.I know they could not get the real statement of account.But just wondering How they did it. 2.The school they gained admission to is also Payment on arrival.Infact almost all US colleges accept payment on arrival apart from the sch i posted that accepts 300deposit.So people if am not to use a fake statement of account,How do i get a statement of account running into approximately 5.5million naira. Honest replies please,No abuses. Thanks a lot
If you don't have money to study in USA then wait until you save up, nobody can genuinely tell you how to get build-account. If anybody post such info here it will be deleted.
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They look at both but most importantly the amount available to you at the time you made your application.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: What Is The Legacy Of Foreign Influence In Africa ? by justwise(m): 12:26pm On Jan 02, 2012
