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Pidgin2:
I n the religious industry, the calibre of these men of God: Bishops/Pastors Oyedepo , Kumuyi, Enoch Adeboye, Ajayi Crowther, Mary Slessor, Matthew Hassan Kukah, Uma Ukpai, Idahosa and numerous other famous religious are few and far in between amongst Canadian/Nigerians living abroad

If you want to be an average Joe you can relocate to Canada but if you want a chance to impact your generation positively then Nigeria offers this much more than Canada does

You mean the list of business men using church as their offices?

Eastner:
Thanks a lot..Just to be clear. How do i then ensure the ECO knows if my flight is economy.Do i state it or write down just the amount?

State the amount, date and the airline..

mimimum:
Dear Justwise, the link doesn't open o. Is there an updated one? Thanks.

It does i just opened it now.

Maybe you are opening it with mobile device?

Pidgin2:
Lol God cannot be angry with him for saying the truth, maybe you can give us examples of outstanding Canadian/Nigerian citizens who have relocated and compare that to the number of well known Nigerian citizens who recide here and who would have otherwise settled for an average Joe faith if they had relocated.

Let's take the creative industry as a case study: the likes of Tuface Idibia, King Sunny Ade,(late)Fela Anikulakpo Kuti, Tiwa Savage, Joke Sylvia, Kaffy and others all leveraged on their Nigerianess lol which Canadian/Nigerian abroad is in their league in the creative industry? Average Joes

You don't move from light to darkness.

Wiseoldman:
No sense of pride at all with the way we are arguing so passionately about a foreign country. Its true these countries are more developed, but Nigeria will get there. There is soo much untapped resources here. It is really a question of ones vision anyway. If you want to live a comfortable average civilized life you have a greater chance doing that in Canada. If you on the other hand want to take a chance to be great with the one life you have. Then you have greater chance at this in NAIJA.

For those of you using children as excuses. A Canadian Professor at the U of Manitoba I believe said the main reason why we would all fail to have a great career/life is that we have all cleverly found a way to use poor children as the reason for being mediocre.
Some of you would say in 50 years time "Kid I would have built the largest rice mill in Nigeria which was still developing then, but I had to give you a comfortable life"...

Even God himself should be angry with you right now

Eastner:
Hello Justwise, trust you are good...So,i just filled and paid for the visa application. Here's my question, there was no breakdown of cost of flight and living expenses on the form. Rather,it was,'how much money are you planning to spend on your visit?'.
So,i'll like to know if i still need to include the breakdown (cost of Flight for son & I, Cost of Living Expenses for Son & I) in my covering letter or leave it as it is.
Thank you.

Breaking down your cost of the trip helps a lot since you are not going to be there to explain things to the ECO.

Typical examples are the case of hotel and flight cost..if you just stated how much you budgeted for hotel or flight how will the ECO know whether that amount is for budget hotel or 5star hotel? Whether the flight is economy or first class?

radwad:
@ Justwise and other gurus,may GOD continue to bless because your commitment to this thread has been unequivocally great.

PLEASE BAIL ME OUT,AND DONT MIND MY LONG STORY.I NEED UR EXPERIENCED GUIDANCE.

I intend to apply for standard visitor visa (tourist intent) by may 2017 even though my TRUE INTENTION is to sit a professional exam which will hold by june. I currently work in a federal government establishment with monthly salary of 250k. My other source of income is not registered(maize selling business).
I have two active bank accounts(salary and savings accounts).currently,i dont have money in the salary account but have 500k in the savings account and expecting about 600k frm my colleague @ work(debt payment+profit from our maize selling business).I beleive 1million naira will cover my expenses as am nt going to stay more than 5-7days.Invitation letter from a cousin already resolved.

Please i need guidance especially on the issue of bank statement beacuse once i transfer the money frm my savings account back to the salary account and recieve my outstanding debt payment,hope it wouldnt look like lodgement.i am confused.

Thanks

There is no need moving money around now since both accounts are yours and you have access to them.

Submit both accounts and explain the source of money on them. The record of transfer from salary account to savings will help you explain things

SegunWamiri:
Welldone!!! Justwise. I can see your handwork. I was just about to tackle those posts

Whoever wants to use agent should go ahead but should not use this thread to promote it.

stillwaiting:
MANY THANKS ARE DUE TO ALMIGHTY GOD. Today is one of the happiest days in my family. My 2nd application was successful today, after many years of separation with my family. I want to sincerely thank the following people for their encouragement for me to submit a fresh application without waiting for the hydra-headed appeal;@justwise, @Abbylove,@Lexusgs430 @ @portsmouth86, @newbie715, @light me @Uchman365, @dday101: I want to sincerely thank justwise for encouraging me to scan the refusal letter so that other people on this forum will advise me which I found very invaluable in preparing documents for this my successful 2nd application. I quoted the definition of subsisting marriage as suggested by @light me. In fact, people in this forum are very helpful it is far better than paying a huge amount of money for ignoramus lawyers. Almighty God will bless you all for your selfless service. Those of us that got help here, we should not abandon this forum because we have been relieved. We should recommend it to others. I was not aware of this forum when my lawyer prepared my first application that was refused and even when the appeals was prepaRED and they refused to overturn it. Thanks, thanks.I pray for those that are waiting that God will put smiles on their faces.

my timeline follows

Congratulations!, glad it ended well. I'm really happy for you.

mface22:
Justwise,

I am new on nairaland website some times i do not know when someone write me back, am traveling back to UK in a couple of weeks am scared don't know if i will be sent back due to my overstay spending 6 month 9 days while i was still having more than a year valid visa on my passport and am thinking of flying back to use my rest valid visa i don't know what will happen

I answered this question to the best of my knowledge the first time you posted it here.

elfmann:
Lai Mohammed..hahaha.she is telling us that our sufferings are enjoyment. She doesn't know the number of Nigerians that depend heavily on remittance.. even to get married.

Children school fees, rent, medical bills the list is endless. Lower class taking holiday abroad indeed.

Pidgin2:
I wonder why you guys keep acting like Europeans and Americans are exempted from "who know who syndrome" when George Bush senior and junior have both ruled America before and another Bush from the same family has been governor. The Kennedy dynasty, Clintons, just to name a few. Many people get jobs without knowing anyone in the top rank (especially in the corporate world) here

Middle class Nigeria =lower class in most countries? How did you arrive at this conclusion. How many middle class Western citizens can boast of actually owing property (fully paid for)? I know middle class families here who own about 3 and above with lands and thriving businesses (not to talk of the rich who own estates and conglomerates) How many lower class citizens abroad can afford vacations abroad etc.

Despite all the advancement in technology, cancer still kills people over there too: David Bowie, Alan Rickman, Terry Wogan, Barry Howard, Caroline Aherne, Victoria Wood, Howard Marks, Paul Daniels, AA Gill, John Cruyff, just to name a few among the rich stars who lost their lives to it in 2016. Even children still die, people still die of dementia, Parkinson, heart disease. With all the state of the art medicines available doctors still send people home to die. Alzheimers-disease, cancer, kidney disease and many more are still killing people.

Are you sure you are paid to reproduce or rather the government pays to cater for your child if you are a citizen and a low income earner? Only the poor rely on benefits na.

By your reliance on government benevolence even to acquire a house am I right to assume that you are a low income earner, is that something to be proud of? FYI as the government is contributing towards your home so are they taxing others heavily to make it a reality (a classic case of robbing Peter to pay Paul )

I suggest you start a church in Nigeria you make so much money because you have the ability to lie with straight face.

Lower class Nigerians taking holiday abroad? Where? Niger republic? I have been in this section since 2009 and i know those lower class taking holiday abroad. Pidgin2? They are running away from hardship and not holiday!!

You talk about Nigeria here as if you are talking to foreigners

BoboYekini:
How do you people feel comfortable living off the altruism and selflessness of these Westerners that made their lands such nice places? Where is your pride?Your shame? How can you dismiss your heritage, your children's cultural roots, how can you look them in the eye and say you abandoned your fatherland and co-opted the whiteman's. This nothing but parasitism, selfishness, spinelessness and it is reprehensible. You bring dishonor to your african names.

Yes.

Pidgin2:
But you know the African system is structured a bit differently, e. g. Instead of sending the elderly to old people's homes, children and relatives are actually expected to take care of the aged, also you can't see your relative desperate for survival and not assist him or her. It helps and takes the place of government assistance which you enjoy there (I'm sure you have heard of some husband's sending their spouse to live with her parents or with his own parents when he finds things difficult. While growing up, we assisted my uncle, his wife, kid and house help for years when he was unemployed).


I'm not too sure about the prevalence of crime in US compared to Nigeria but I know both experience it often. Gun laws over there is not even helping as any mentally disturbed person with a license can gun down innocent children and citizens at any time

Of course access to basic amenities is better there but let's not forget that OP's prospect look good for financial stability and growth here

Most of that are coming from relatives living abroad, because we live abroad doesn't mean that we don't maintain the culture of helping family members I send money home frequently, i mean every two months to family members to solve one or two problems

There is nothing about Nigeria you can lecture me about because i lived there and still in touch with people there and will be visiting in few days time.

Schwartz:
Thank you. I am being misunderstood. I have not said abroad is bad. I also do not advice anyone from travelling. Most people have this mindset that once they touch here they will start picking money and turn millionaires over night. After some years of toiling some people actually begin to do well but many struggle and live from pay cheque to cheque. Some living on government benefits. I have personally met a Nigerian woman who came to my office to beg for money to feed hereself and her child. And for people like this their friends and relatives would feel that they are abroad enjoying not knowing that their daughter is in Germany begging! But I have met so many Nigerians living abroad and there are struggling. There are many people here who would gladly relocate to Nigeria if they can be paid 4000,000 naira monthly. For someone has worked in Nigeria before I am very sure that in addition to the salary the guy is paid allowances as well. He is clearly a millionaire and single. Also from the first post we are told that he has the prospect of growing on the job hence even more pay. Why would anyone give up all that and start life afresh abroad? It beats me. He can apply for visa and comfortably spend his leave abroad. I have relatives who work in Nigeria yet they bought holiday homes abroad. Are there not Nigerians working right there in Nigeria and sending their kids abroad to school paying thousands of pounds and dollars?

I have no problem with your view and i know what happened in German thread hence my intervention here.

I can understand why somebody wants to leave Nigeria but many do it with wrong impression and over inflated expectation.

Pidgin2:
We have the option of using ACs or fans and there is no utility bill attached to using them, cable is not necessary here too (it is free to watch many channels without cable)

Just like no one wants to be out of work and dependent on the government for sustainance I find our culture especially the one where relatives and even friends helping out during such trying times as a welcome substitute to what the government does for you. Even as a grown man or woman if one becomes financially desperate here you can actually fall back on relations and friends just like the government does for you over there


Like I have said several times the quality of life abroad is better but do they even have good cultures there, Lol I thought they also have rapists, paedophiles and serial killers there na?

Govt help here because people who work paid into the system to help those who are not working, the disabled and the elderly ones.

Not many relatives in Nigeria will sustain you while you are jobless infact they depend on people living abroad to help out.

We probably have more rapist and paedophiles in Nigeria than UK, US and Canada because the law against such crime in Nigeria is not strict enough and of course you can pay your way out of the crime if arrested.

futurewise11:
MADAM SADIST FROM GERMAN THREAD, WHY DONT YOU GO BACK TO NIGERIA?

ARE U THE ONLY ONE LIVING ABROAD?

Western world is bad and u want to die there.

Please can we stop this? Why do we always pounce on people who has a different view? Why do you always have a problem with Schwartz's view? In German thread many are afraid of giving the not-so-juicy view of living abroad because of fair of an attack from people like you .

This is not cool honestly.

Zdoh:
Cc:Justwise please help this guy.

Out of my league

@All

Please stop responding to questions here.

Only Abujaniv and other VOs in this section are allowed to answer those questions.

Thank you.

Pidgin2:
I don't need to pay for heating here so that's free. I find most utility bills are a lot cheaper here compared to living abroad. For example, if I chose to supply my own water(on a permanent basis) I won't need to ever pay for water bill also bills like cable cost from $3 upwards, data for most networks is like $3 per month, I think because we earn less compared to America, UK, Canada, etc we pay less too. Imagine minimum wage here is a meagre N18,000/month.

Good but i don't need to buy air condition, i don't need to struggle with NEPA, my water bill is about £60 a year, and if i want to bring it down i get a smart meter installed, cable is a matter of choice its not a necessity.

If i'm out of work today i will still enjoy free medical treatment, my rent paid and still get paid to help me look for job.


If i'm living in Nigeria and earning 400K a month i wouldn't leave that job to any part of the world to live illegally doing factory job, but with work permit like Canadian work program visa? Definitely i will be in next available flight to Canada.

You enjoy quality of life, relatively safe place compare to Nigeria, less likely to be kidnapped because of your wealth. quality medical treatment and most importantly less corrupt.

Pidgin2:
Well done brother, you earn $2000 and you pay $1000/month to share rent. My brother such low rent sef I am sure you live far from the city center. If you convert your rent it is N500,000 to share room per month

You pay light, water, cable, Internet, phone bill, tax, food, you buy fuel etc too. I know it is not easy but in your initial post you quickly converted your earnings into naira knowing fully well that there are a lot of people who are very naive and once they see such figures they will not mind taking the risk of dying in order to earn such amount as an illegal immigrant(even crossing the Mediterranean Sea), please consider these folks before you try to give certain impressions about your life there

Maybe I'm missing something here..I have been reading this and people keep saying you pay this and that abroad...I mean don't you also pay those in Nigeria? Do you get them free?

@maternal

Sorry i have to remove your last post because of insults and name calling, there is no need for that. Pidgin2 has every right to air her views and you don't have to agree with her neither should you engage in name calling rather than presenting your own side of the argument.

BizErikah:
So means if i appl for 6 mnths i get 6mnths n not anything above it??
And 2 years.. not anything below 2years??

It's an Mba program. . Just seminar relating to my school stuffs..n academics..

250k salary

If you applied for 6months visa you will be issued 6months visa and nothing above it.

There are 6months, 2yrs, 5yrs and 10yrs visa categories.

If you are not a student, the seminar not related to your current job and your company not sponsoring the trip then the task you have now is to convince the ECO why this seminar is important to you.

Your salary rang is good and if the trip takes 2months worth of your salary then financial wise you are good to go.

themusketeer:
@justwise

1.The application you made in the UK using human right act really damaged your reputation with ukba.

2. Your recent application was over budgeted and above your income



Thanks @justwise, I reapplied immediately and was issued 6months . I have traveled twice already .

many thanks to for your insightful contributions.

Congratulations! Good that it worked out in the end

BizErikah:
i want to start by saying A Big thank you to the creator of NAIRALAND, i got info from here in how to apply for my US n UK visa in the past years.
I have come again for inquiries.
People with all sorts of opinion, please you are welcome.
Now.. my 6 months uk visa expired dec 2016.
I just recieved a mail from my online school at Cyprus.. an invitation to attend a seminar in london for august.. travel n accommodation to be taken care of by myself.

Now my question is.. do i pay for 6 months visa?? Will i still be issued 6 months or 2 years.. since it's my second application..and d previous was 6 months.
Or do i pay for 2 years??

I am working n intend to provide all work docs etc as i provided when i applied for the previous visa

I await your responses.
Thanks.

1. You can apply for 6months or 2yrs visa its entirely upto you.

2. Is the seminar related to your current job?

3. What is your monthly take-home salary?

mojisolani:
Hello Justwise, just want to thank you for spending your precious time with everyone in this forum, you may not know this,but you have help,help lot of broken homes,lot of hopeless and helpless situation with your advice and guide.Sometimes people(you) are beautiful.Not in looks.Not in what they(you)say.Just in what they(you)are. Thanks so much. In wisdom you shall grow.In knowledge God shall fill you and in understanding you shall be full. Thank you,thank all. You shall never lack. Just saying thank you for your time with us here. Thinking of when I will package my application give me a peace of mind that there is a forum I can go to when am ready.

Thank you i appreciate your kind words

mommatriplets:
my tone may be a bit a harsh, but place urself in the americans shoes sometimes, thousands of nigerians claiming they didnt know, and writing letter of intent?
even you would be tired,.
that letter of intent has lost value/is meaningless now - has been over abused.
its dicey but a risk only you can decide if you want to take it.
best option would have been to travel/visit normally with the ticket in your 1st or 2nd month of pregnancy, better with your hubby

and then when you are about to give birth , you travel again .
this issue has been treated countless times on this thread...at least every 3 or 4 pages, if you read earlier posts, you would have seen where this issue has been treated severally

..and i have removed the section that talked about letter of intent from the first page because people have abused it.

drakeli:
Haba!! That's the correct pronunciation na, but it's spelt as "plumber". Audio dictionary can help you.

You really don't get it.

blaize777:
Hello house my baby had serious issue den wen I gave birth last yr houston precisely guess most pple can still remember my story. My bill after all negotiation cos she stayed 2wks plus in ICU.was abt 22Thousand we paid d much we could d remaining we wer placed on monthly plan.but since Nov last yr we stop paying cos atm cards don't work again for online pymt. We ve Abt 3800 left.my question is my hubby need to use his visa by yr end before it expires but he does not want to travel alone .hope we won't ve issue of wen travel at poe cos of the remaining outstanding balance. the hospital said payment must be done either tru card or money order of cos nig no money order here and cards no longer work.anyone with my kind of issue asin experience. Urgent pls .although we informed them abt nig cards issues

Have you contacted the hospital to explain this and what was their response?

Chaiomsy:
LESSONS I LEARNED WHILE LIVING IN ENGLAND- PART 3.


The first to come in was the Jamaican guy, he worked as a plumber. He said ‘’hi, nice to meet ya, my name is Peter.’’

I said ‘’hello, my name is Chichi, nice to meet you too. I asked him what he does for a living and he said, ‘’I am a ‘plummer.’

For like five seconds, I didn’t get what he had just said, I went ‘’sorry, what did you say?’’ he said, ‘’I work as a ‘plummer’

That was when I realized he meant ‘plumber’ but was pronounced as ‘plummer,’ I learned the correct pronunciation right there and then!

Chichi please stick with plumber and not 'plummer'..you really don't want to know what that means..very cruel street slag