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Thewritingnerd:
Good afternoon everyone, quick question: I already had an Upwork account from Nigeria (NB: this account wasn’t active, I just created it and abandoned it) ,

if I were to change the account location and start using it to get freelance work now in the UK, would the hours count towards my 20-limit as a student? Would it be considered self-employment which is a breach of the student visa conditions?

Add: Also, is remote work that I’d been doing for a UK client from back home and I’ve continued to do now that I’m in the uk part of my 20 hours too 🤔

abuhusna1:
Show us January in the Bible

headofschool:
Whatever first fruit means to you... Bible commands that we bring first fruit of harvest...in any case either you do it annually or monthly it is still the same as tithe and God made it so.

Having been in the UK, I now understand why tithing was an issue to some Nigerians. However if you personally feel it is a rip off, just take that as your opinion.
There are pastors who take advantage of it and get dubious, but tithing was not designed to make pastor richer than members... However some Pastors who have become extremely rich are natural business men who would flourish wherever they work. I might condemn those who sell anointing oil and water but selling books , audios, videos or establishing educational institutions are very justified means of a natural business man be it a pastor or not.

People with so much anger about tithing and enriching pastor should also take bold step to sue home office to stop wasting millions of your tax🤣 to fund Bibby Stockholm's maintenance and illegal migrant expenses...take them to court and direct your anger to a proper channel since you have stopped paying Nigerian pastor's, at least UK compulsory own too should monitored and challenged

koonbey:
Look up to you? Lmao tufiakwa.

I've never said anything about tithe. You see how you keep bringing that up in irrelevant contexts like a toddler throwing a tantrum and determined to be as loud and obnoxious as possible till it has its way?

Anyway, your behaviour does, unfortunately, seem to set the tone for the thread due to your position. I'm sure you won't see that and I'm not really typing this for your benefit - it's for other, hopefully more level-headed people, to calm things down.

koonbey:
You’re being rude and entitled.

The person in question said what they said fully innocently I’m sure and you’ve just read the worst possible motives into it with absolutely no basis. You don’t even know if it’s a matter of timing where they planned to settle down and write something extensive later.

If you want to know, ask. You didn’t, and you just jumped to insults and attacks.

Not sure what has happened to this three as in the past few days but it seems most people have just lost their sense of decorum and people are letting their inner ágberòs out. I guess the mod doing the same is part of what's emboldening people but please try and do better.

babajeje123:
Whether you get paid or otherwise is not my concern. My concern is, just like in Nigeria, having a square peg in a round hole.

babajeje123:
You can as well resign since you are not being paid. Worthy to note that I'm not the only one who found you unfit for this role.

Greenpeasants1:
Na now you come

You wan be Mod

Ha! We no want

Justwise this person wan collect ya position , no gree oh

babajeje123:
Guy, you need to be replaced. Would do that if I had the chance.

babajeje123:
See, I know what you are talking about and I have asked those questions before. The first issue is why Justwise is always using tithe to derail this thread? It's so unfortunate to have him as a mod as he is always failing upholding the rules of this platform once a discuss is against what he stands for. There is a religion section where we all can go to to argue for or against tithing.

That said, you don't disseminate your seemingly truth by insulting others. No one will accept it. You can't also force others to accept your truth as it may be senseless to them. So you can only encourage people to see from your perspective and if they refuse you let them be.

Nanorest:
Why don't you forget anything called Nigeria if you truly don't want to come back

dustydee:
It may be insulting but what if what if it's the truth?
A lot of people that preach it do it either out of ignorance or to scam people. That's why you hardly hear them teach the unfavourable passages about tithing. They also do not tell you that if you obey the law of tithing, you must obey all the other laws or you are cursed (No be me talk am, na bible).
People should study the bible and find out the following:
What is tithe?
Who should pay it?
Who should it be paid to?
How should it be paid?
When should it be paid?
If you start with these questions and sincerely answer them, people will be better informed.
Another potential scam that is creeping into chritianity is "first fruit". I once led a bible study where this was the topic and I could not teach it because the references given in the manual did not in anyway support it and they "twisted" it to fit the narrative. Years later, I attended an oyinbo church and the preacher tocuhed on first fruit and how it was done and my eyes opened. I asked him after the service about paying first fruit and his question to me was "Is it an African thing?" I was the second African to ask him about that. Since then I have not paid it.

Nanorest:
I don't know how people prefer the life here over the one in Nigeria. I think it's just a defence on the syndrome using something like security, good life and others but I am not part of them. My goal is to make money here and establish myself in Nigeria.

I prefer an insecure Nigeria to a secure UK provided there is money. Let's stop deceiving ourselves. Our main motive here is to make money not that we enjoy life here.

MrNovo:
Na waa o.
Oga did you consider the constantly depreciating Naira before asking the bolded question ❓
You have N30m (say £30k at N1000/£) today and all your costs are covered, plans in top shape, then you wake up the next day to N1500/£ and your N30m is now £20k. £10k just vanished and that answers your question of where is that money!!

I know the implied question you are asking fullclub, but everything shouldn't be about fronting blames, afterall last year and before people did that and they were fine getting to the UK because they didn't face the some of the developing harsh conditions the Op is reporting

rinzylee:
Shaaaaaaarrrrrraaaaapppppuuuuu

Please go on twitter and announce it.


You go get ulcer o, because bitterness dey run belle o.


As you no dey pay, has it reduced the flow of abundance coming into the church .??

I will say it again, you are a very stingy man. I am sure you have poor neighbours in the village or even around you here. How many have you consistently been catering for..

Only stingy people cringe when giving to God or Church is mentioned.


Take ya money and go , we no need am.

We like the ignorance.



If you like, allow this hypocrite deceive you.

genkins:
Don't convince me,rather convince yourself by answering these questions.you must not answer here because of the shame..in your quiet moment,try to answer these questions and your chains my be broken..shalom

giselle237:
@justwise

hustla:
Without fear, religion will cease to exist but people willingly give out tithe for reasons best known to them. I mean there's a UK Pastor wearing £30K LVs and £300K Patek wristwatches but people will still give the tithe. You really cant help someone who is being scammed until their eyes open, wake up and smell the coffee

I think everyone needs to watch this cartoon "Sausage Party". It's a subtle dig at religion and very funny -https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1700841/

To each his own, your money, your religion, your tithe

As for me sha, I have never paid tithe and I will never give any Pastorpreneur 1 Cent to goan use for Gucci shoes

Gucci sef go fit me na

inphoenix:
Lol. My pastor that year was travelling abroad for a few weeks and told me not to drop my tithe in the tithe basket but hand it to his wife while he is away. 😭😭

babajeje123:
I have a well-deserved response for you but will keep it as it's a holy day.

babajeje123:
It is not surprising that a mod is flagrantly violating one of the rules (1) of this platform. You exemplify Nigeria lawmakers who are at the same time law breakers. I'm certain you would hide this post if it was done by someone else and probably ban them too.
That said, saying tithing, a practice held in high esteem by Christians, is a scam online is highly insulting. In fact, this is cyber bullying and I'm not sure if this is what this platform is turning into.

babajeje123:
This is bullying and display of unnecessary ego. The guy was right in fact I was going to post the same thing but got busy with other things. Leadership should be by example

hustla:
Two people you should never advice -

A Nigerian with his religion and a girl who's in love

Oyinbo churches dey empty but still.... Na we religious pass and na we dey underdeveloped and wicked pass

rinzylee:
Baba mechikwanu ọnụ..... just keep quiet for once. This TITHE thing pains you well. Go and ban it from the parliament nah. Onye mgbu

Solumtoya:
It's not in my nature to engage random folks on the internet especially over matters like religion which is why I didn't quote you by deliberately misspelling your moniker but I'd make an exception and leave the thread if I have to since it's actually yours.

You said and I quote "Tithing is a scam" among several other things. That's just off for people here who may hold it as a sacred doctrine. You won't do same to even an Islamic doctrine or any other legal group like LGBTQ even if you don't believe in what they're doing.

You have to respect other people's legal beliefs even if you feel you are now much wiser than them. You can share your opinion but making such definite derogatory statements is bullying.

This isn't about you "calling out some fraud in the Church" , don't divert it and act like that's all you said.

I used to respect you a lot and I still do, I really don't want to stretch this conversation

Solumtoya:
This is what this thread is all about: Community of kindness and sharing.

I had decided to let go of this thread because folks like Justman had decided to use the opportunity of being a moderator to attack beliefs that people hold sacred. I never understand how one thinks it's wise to keep saying negative things about non-criminal religious doctrines. You won't do such in UK to people's sexual orientation, for instance, regardless of your stance on the matter. But because it's Nairaland, it's alright to say things like "someone's sacred doctrine is a scam run by crooks in the Church".

I digress... But, I think I will come back. My epistles have helped so many people here.

I passed my theory driving test yesterday, first time. I also got my Mortgage Offer last week after only coming here 2 years ago as a Student Dependant. These are only 2 examples of some of the ways God has used information from this thread to help me.

So, here's to more Communal assistance on Nairaland.

fullclub:
https://www.nairaland.com/7767052/uk-student-visa-tier-4

you are the one who own and is behind this thread... you feel am attacking it. well am not.

i have already applied for amazon work in n outside where i stay and nothing yet from them. someone said i should wait till December when cold comes and maybe shifts comes
i have been up since 1am applying and day breaks 10am i am off to stroll offices asking them if they get jobs, although most refer me back to their sites.

Please in those your UK thread.. put it bold and tell them to pay their fees 100 or 90% first or this money should be available when they get there.

not paying 30/40% and hoping to start working to pay the rest.

fullclub:
i am warning everyone. i am the few saying this.
Please if u know anyone that left September just ask him or her... if he tells u the truth.

dduchess90:
Hello

Not allowed on this forum

@Justwise please help ban this fellow

Cheers

DrAkpamudehe:
My friend, you should be the one to stop talking nonsense and acting holier than though. If Nigeria was operating at the level it was pre-2015, I don't think Op and his types will be so desperate to leave Nigeria.

People just want to survive, please let the poor breath.

DrAkpamudehe:
Oga, stop all these self purification and aggrandizement. If Nigeria is working O.P and most Nigerians would not leave Nigeria to go and try their luck in UK. Op did what he had to do to get a visa and get a chance at a brighter future. You that have been in UK for over 20yrs, did you have your complete school fees when you jakpaad? If you want to help him with contacts, help him, stop all this unnecessary condemnation. Life in Nigeria is freaking hard.