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Travel › Re: Foreigners To Be Charged To Access UK's NHS by justwise(mod): 12:40pm On Jul 04, 2013
[quote author=mondi_cheeks]if u don't want to pay the £200 simply pack your bags and go back to your motherland where u will do as you deem fit, if not, simply pay the damn charges to access NHS. Stop making noise for nothing[/quote]Obviously i'm not paying 200 and not ready to pack my bag yet, my advice for people who want to use free NHS service is to come with 6months visiting visa, they don't need to pay 200, that's how silly the policy is.

Brainless politicians, asylum seekers gets it free, rent free, council tax paid for them and they are not allowed to work, but people who come in legitimately are forced to pay services they may not use.

I support the GPs as they plan to kick-out the useless policy.
Travel › Re: Foreigners To Be Charged To Access UK's NHS by justwise(mod): 12:18pm On Jul 04, 2013
[quote author=mondi_cheeks]the whole point is to cut down costs on their part, people always seem to forget that governments run on a budget because money doesn't fall from the sky or grow on trees. If people have a problem with England trying to manage their income wisely maybe people should just stop going to work and study in England. It really is that simply. It's funny how people always want the best of everything but they are not willing to pay for it[/quote]

We pay, we pay more than British citizens, so what are you going on about? What are we getting free?

When British citizens travel to other countries they pay per-use but British govt wants us to pay even before we use it.

Nobody is asking for free stuff, don't make me pay for something i don't use, if you want to talk about budget then tell the benefit scroungers to stop making babies like rabbit and get a job and pay for it.

If you want us to stop coming to England to study and work then get ready to ask British citizens living and working in Nigeria to book the next available flight back home
Travel › Re: Foreigners To Be Charged To Access UK's NHS by justwise(mod): 11:17am On Jul 04, 2013
[quote author=mondi_cheeks]it's about £16,66 per month why are you acting as if they are being asked for £200 per month undecided[/quote]Even if its 9p a month its 9p too much, is not as if foreign students troop into NHS every month for treatment, like i said before they paid for this already through NI contributions and still pay for prescription.
Travel › Re: Foreigners To Be Charged To Access UK's NHS by justwise(mod): 8:19am On Jul 04, 2013
[quote author=mondi_cheeks]they can always go back home if they feel its unfair though[/quote]They are doing that already, fewer are choosing the UK as a preferred country to study in.

NHS is not free anyway, students working part time pays NI, they pay for prescription and now have to pay 200 a year.

Ridiculous, while those on benefit pays nothing. Universities will be silly not to fight this.
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(mod): 7:33pm On Jul 03, 2013
damsey: Thanks oga justwise,the link to d pdf u are reffering me to is not posted. Help me post d link.
Regards.
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/applicationforms/pbs/Tier4migrantguidance.pdf
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 5:20pm On Jul 03, 2013
euromoney: It hasn't gotten to that mr,considering the fact that no one has collected money from anyone.remember this same guy has been supportive all this while.I beg,biko e don do oh.
I don't give a monkey who supports him, that will not change jack. He is not the only contributor here, nobody is indispensable here
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 4:47pm On Jul 03, 2013
goodtalk: witchcraft moderation!
I have made my points here without insulting anybody and i will not take one from you.

This thread can do without you easily!
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 4:45pm On Jul 03, 2013
benardemma: I have been following this tread for long now,our oga on top please I want you to support this,am also planing to travel to dubia very soon.
How old are you? I hope you are old enough to read, plan your trip without paying somebody to do all that for you.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 4:43pm On Jul 03, 2013
goodtalk: pls each time sombody cries out that he is stranded abeg try and speack out, in such cases i dont see you! U are always in the shadows, jeremmyng said he is in a tight corner and he was now willing to pay money for job kindly advise him! Pls be active as a moderator to bring solutions to peoples distress, all people need is solution, people think they are smart you would have said ogakpatakpata wanted to benefit from peoples money afterall t'he suggestion was for him to organise it, he was to personally oversee t'he arrangment because he is in dubai, t'he job of a moderator is not to throw mud cleverly, u escuse t'he people that will arrange to recieve people and help them and you blaiming me in nigeria? In your eairlier post you castegated kaffi4tope who happens to be t'he most helpful job placement officer or informer on t'he thread all for what? Because he agreed to take a taxi to pick JJC from t'he airport and at whose cost? Oga abeg wake up! I have read a lot of your old posts long ago before you became a moderator so my guy small small.i dont care about t'he issue again but you cannot stop people from doing as they please. i
What stops you from helping jeremmyng? What are you waiting for? He is in Dubai already and since you can get accommodation and job for people for a fee what is stopping you from helping now? You are waiting to be paid before you help him abi?

This is what i hate so much about Nigerians, we preach about togetherness and all jack but if money is not involved nobody shows up.

This thread and others in this section was started to help people FREE, show how much you care about your fellow Nigerian without asking for money.

This your business plan is dead in the water.
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(mod): 4:09pm On Jul 03, 2013
kem000: Please nairalanders, I want to know if international students pay their full tuition at enrolment after paying a deposit of 4000 pounds because I want to fix my remaining balance so that I can make some little returns on my school fees. Please advice......
Yes they do
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 3:45pm On Jul 03, 2013
euromoney: @justwise,eazy man!goodtalk said he doesn't live in dubai,so I don't think he's trying to make money from anyone.pls let's drop this issue so that we don't derail this thread..we've all tried our best in one way or the other,you inclusive.tnx
He doesn't need to live in Dubai to make money out of this, this whole idea is not for free, money will exchange hand.
Travel › Re: Foreigners To Be Charged To Access UK's NHS by justwise(mod): 3:41pm On Jul 03, 2013
Dis Guy: ^^

I dont think Students and ILR holders should have to pay this, should be restricted to visitors only and should be refundable

I dont know why they dont request for health insurance instead before granting visas
This is unfair to foreign students.
Travel › Re: Foreigners To Be Charged To Access UK's NHS by justwise(mod): 3:40pm On Jul 03, 2013
OMO IBO: Brethren, As long as you pay your taxes and make NI contributions the nhs is not free.

But hey, I digress.

Here's my grouse with this proposal. If I have, say a 12 month visa on my passport and I choose to spend say 48hours with a loved one enroute my final destination which may or may not be anywhere in the EU. I'm still gonne have to fork out this amount.

This amount should be payable only buy students and people with ILR at the time of applying for visa.

Tourists and buisness men/women should only make this payment at the point of entry. And ofcourse must be refunded as/when they leave provided they haven't strayed.
No you don't pay, this is for people coming to stay here for a yr or more. Though i have to agree with you that NHS is not free in real sense of it, but its free for people on benefit.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 3:27pm On Jul 03, 2013
goodtalk: @ justwise and at @leboss6 having read backwards t'he past posts i discoverd it only t'he two of you that are against this idea and i dont feel just t'he two of you make t'he majority! This thread is alive and well because people with integrity such as ogakpatakpata, euromoney, kaffi4tope,justi4jesu,henrimoto,FBI/CIA,etc have doggedly contributed their quota of time, advise and money after all they pay for t'he internet, and they enlighten people free of charge, if this great forum members where to withdraw there contibutions i bet u this thread will close up! Thats why from time to time we need to continually feel t'he puss of t'he people before we throw out advises, just wise said to optimistgondy if we where to subject this matter to a vote some people will generate new IDs and t'he vote will not reflect t'he correct views, but t'he best approch will be to ask t'he views of 15 of our most credible contibutors and find out what they feel about t'he matter on t'he table, you like it or not this issue cannot be wished away, each time i read jeremmyngs post am always moved cos nobody is on ground in dubai that is commited to his course! All over t'he world airport pickup is normal, a new student arriving in russia today will be picked up from t'he airport to t'he school and he will pay 100$ fee for this servise infact if you check most schools website you will find this requirement, i simply wonder why nigeria people see fraud in every suggestion. When i arrived moscow i missed t'he fellow t'he school sent to pick me up, and this was my first time in moscow i suffered greatly cos i coudent express my self in russian language and nobody understood english, boy i sufferd, i was ready to aboundon my 3 pieces of luggage because i couldent move easily because of my bags, t'he only thing that was important to me was my laptop bag containing my credentials i hugged dat bag and was ready to aboundon others, when i came out of t'he airport i ran back inside because i had suddenly come into a minus -10 degrees cold and i had to unpack my bag and wear a very tick jackets, i had issues with russian imigration because they said my bag contained upto ten or more pair of jeans, i expalined i bougt them because of t'he cold, them no hear english i no hear russian if only i had sombody on ground to relate with t'he immigration in russian language my life would have been easier infact the story too long, eventually i took a taxi to t'he closest metro line, guess how much 50$ dollars for a taxi dro, when i finally got to school they still collected t'he 100$ for t'he pickup service though i missed my pickup guy! Missed me , so when i make suggestions like this i speack with experience, wherever we travel to in t'he world you will always need help from people, but our prayer is to get t'he right help even if we must pay for it. I don taya to type cose am using a fone
goodtalk you can preach and spin this until chicken grow teeth, this is all about how you will make money from Nigerians traveling to Dubai and you can't use this thread to promote that.
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(mod): 2:54pm On Jul 03, 2013
damsey: Oga justwise, pls i want to ask d following questions on dependent. Am in recipent of government sponsorship for M.sc and i want to take along my wife with me to UK in september. 1. Can i use my statement of account for her maintenance money for d visa application since am using an official letter for my own?
2. What documents will i need for both application?
3. Can i book appointment before the 28 days period of printing d bank statement?
4. Explain fully d application process pecular to my own situation?
Thanks in anticipation
This PDF file will answer question 2 and 4.

3. you can only book an appointment when you are ready to apply. You fill the application form online and submit then they will send you an appointment date, you still have to print copy out and take to the center when going for your appointment.
Travel › Re: Foreigners To Be Charged To Access UK's NHS by justwise(mod): 2:22pm On Jul 03, 2013
OMO IBO: This is unclear.
Is this £200 added to the cost of say a 2, 5 or 10 year visa??

So if you have a 10year tourist/student visa you could be paying 10*200?? Yes?? No??

And does the 200 quid cover any and every ailment? I hope not cos I already see loopholes.
This applies to people staying for more than 6months only and its paid yearly, not all treatment is free in NHS even for British citizens.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 1:52pm On Jul 03, 2013
kolaide: hmmmmmm,Nigerians!!!, Despite the high level of Indians atrocity even against themselves, they still stick together and help one another in a foreign land and anywhere they found themselves. Look around you,even in Dubai,they tend to dominate places they found themselves, via what? Networking! Is it wrong to have a brilliant idea and have it throw away all in the name of uncertainty! People, is now time to be our brothers keeper and also stay close, even in a foreign land.
We have everything it take to be the most sort after citizen in the world, but where are we? Will you encourage an idea that is more ideal or seat back and watch people get trapped. when you know something could be done? Please, let not let the past dictate the great future we have even in a far away land. I will like us to know that even in free town there is no free lunch!
I humbly support this idea and i will want all hands to be on deck to bring about it actualization. Enough of ruining our REPUTATION AS A NAIJA CITIZEN!
If you want to preach about how Indians help each other and stuff then start hunting for jobs and visa info and paste here free without charging for your service.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 1:32pm On Jul 03, 2013
Akins02324: hello house
I have being an active reader of this particular thread.All I can say is,you guys have done a wonderful job because I personally have gained Immesely from here as far as traveling to Dubai is concern.

I will like to commend ogakpatapata for the good job he is doing ,helping nairalanders with quality information sothat they don't fall into a wrong hands.

I am not that good in typing but I was forced to spring into action following a suggestion that was tendered before house helping nairalanders with pick-up services,accomodation and job opportunities in Dubai.

I am highly impressed the way this issue is being presented to the house.infact its a welcome development which I personally was happy about when.I read it yesterday .

I am highly surprised at the level the moderator of this thread kicked against it.Though,I reason with him but I feel the explanation he gave the house did not justify the point.what I expected of him is to propose a plan on how they can do it in a cor-donated it sothat it would not be hijacked.

there is no harm on trying,if it works fine,people will still come here and inform the house and if it is other way round,we will still hear about it.I want you to know that whatever suggestion these guys brought before the house,is not for their own interest but for the interest of the nairalanders.please moderator,let's rally support for these guys and stop discouraging them sothat this thread can be taken to the next level.

please,I urge you guys not to relent.I am still part of the people that still want to benefit from this scheme because I am planning comming to Dubai very soon maybe after ramadhan.

let's be our brothers'keeper and I sugggest maybe we make it optional only for people who are interested.I know a trial will convince others only if it is done as expected.

whatever I have said wrong,house pls accept my apology.
Is the service free?
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 1:24pm On Jul 03, 2013
ogakpatakpata: @Justwise..................thanks well understood.......the idea has been dropped totally...........even before your comment, l have withdrawn my support for the motion.....
Thanks for your understanding, like i said before this got nothing to do with you.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 1:22pm On Jul 03, 2013
henrimoto: @ justwise. c.s.o. i greet! thanks 4 pointing out dat area which we need 2 know. and thanks 4 d revelations. dats why u 're d chief security officer here. just as d igwee prof. said d.... motion/suggestion has been dropped 2 protect d goodwill/motive of d originators of dis thread. but..., justwise, biko.. which one is living in cocoland ? loll,*bros, laugh catch me* is it another island in lagos? @ house. pls, let d tension in d house die down now. igweee! i greet! our palace will nt catch fire...
You are a funny character grin grin
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 1:16pm On Jul 03, 2013
Optimisticgondy: I'll suggest we vote on this issue. Let the vote start below
No chance, don't ever bother as the result can't be relied upon, somebody with numerous IDs can like it as many times as possible making look as if its real.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 1:11pm On Jul 03, 2013
goodtalk: . @ justwise Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha i have learnt from experience reading past posts that nobody really wins t'he moderator in an agument so i dont intend to ague with you, but let me set some issues straight i am not a visa agent am just a man that has travlled to a few places in t'he world and i actually schooled in russia and currently preapering for my PHD in russia or any other place in Europe, but am currently in nigeria, in all my posting on t'he qatar/dubai thread i have always tried to be objective and at no time has my post been hidden on this particular thread,for advertising any service. On russian matters where i lived for some years i could claim to be an expert in such matters but for quite a long time i hardly visit t'he russian thread cos i feel t'he thread is not been organised well, if u check my past posts i was t'he one that suggested ogakapatakpata be crowned as king so as to have orderliness on t'he thread to guide it from degenerating into abuse garlor forum like t'he russian and other threads. Many months back i might have wanted to help people on t'he russian tread for a fee but i lost intreast, as it was not encouraged and secondly t'he stress was too much, if you noticed some people kept asking me to reply to there PM's even on this thread most of them are still russian enthusiast that traced me here, so am not an agent. Well as per t'he $100 dollars issue i believe its optional and its not by force, its better to thrash t'he issue in t'he public dormaian than having people doing t'he same thing behind through there PMs. I recommended using t'he igwe to arrange this cos i believe he would be unwilling to mess up t'he good name he has been building for a long while just because of $100 dollars, and i want to add in as much you are t'he moderator of t'he thread u still need to feel t'he puss of t'he people and let them vote on issues that concern them directly, if you feel t'he igwe will collect peoples 100 dollars and not do what he said he will do pls say so straight lets know your view! U dont seem to understand if a forum member says he gave t'he igwe 100 dollars and he didnt do anything but eat his money his reputation he has built is destroyed. procuring the dubai visa is easy and free, just simply go to etihad or emirate airlines and pronto your visa and ticket will be ready. But how you will fair on your arrival in dubai is another matter, i believe our people over there need help, well t'he experiences of valentoney, jeremyng and GemB are eye openers to challenges that one can face if u dont have people that can help u. I have being preaching that nobody shud give money to nigerian immigration but some of our members gave as much as $200 and now they are finding it difficult to get jobs in dubai would it not have been better to give that money to job placement expert under t'he supervision of t'he igwe to help help them secure a job? Lets face facts and call a spade a spade!! l
Don't make it look as if you are planning to start a charity organization to rescue Nigerians suffering in Dubai, the whole idea is about you charging for services you tend to render to people and i don't want this thread to be turned to business centre where contacts will be exchanged for airport pick ups, hotel booking and jobs.
Travel › Re: Usa Visit Visa by justwise(mod): 9:08am On Jul 03, 2013
AjanleKoko: I have a question. Why do nationals of countries like Nigeria, Ghana, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, etc., require 'God's favour' before they can get a visa to Western nations?
Does God submit a list at the embassy of 'favoured' candidates? undecided
grin grin grin grin grin
Travel › Re: Uk Student Visa/tier 4 Pbs - Your Questions Answered Part2 by justwise(mod): 8:56am On Jul 03, 2013
[quote author=momo-mufasa]Good Mornin Bro

Thanks for your input so far. I have one more question for you. Do i need to carry out a transaction on the account before asking for a printout?

****The last transaction date was in June and the 28days lapsed yesterday although on the bank statement,there is a CLOSING BALANCE listed.[/quote]If the printout of your bank statement states closing balance then you don't need to carry out any transaction.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 8:52am On Jul 03, 2013
ogakpatakpata: @Justwise,...........l really do understand your worries and concern, the writer personally don't charge anybody money for service l render in all my years of international travelling, the reason the writer supported the motion was based on the peculiarity of the situation in Dubai, which so many of our members can attest to, the writer have seen countless Nigerians who fell victims on arrival just by meeting wrong people who misled and got them stranded, that was why the writer volunteered to personally supervise and co-ordinate the whole process myself from Dubai as much as time and office engagement allows me, the writer also want to add that this is a pilot scheme and if it doesn't work, then, l will back out of it, the person the house suggested is also known to me in Dubai and l can vouch for him that he wont betray the trust the house has for him, but if you have a better idea to this motion, please feel free to share it here but if you still insist that you are not comfortable with the whole process, l guess we may have to forget it totally, the motive for this motion was not to make money or enrich anybody but rather to help reduce the challenge a new arrivee faces in Dubai, again, no member in Dubai will agree to spend his/her money to go to the airport to welcome or guide a new arrivee
ogakpatakpata i have enjoyed your contributions from page one of this thread as well as few others who come in here to write pages just to help other members selflessly and i never had any reason to question your intention but this idea brought by a ' travel/visa agent' and supported by another 'travel/visa agent' is about to dent your image here.

To start with, i don't believe that the individual who brought up this idea will be able to deliver that package, pick somebody up from the airport, get accommodation and job within the duration of the visa given to the person.

Secondly kaffy4tope who supported this idea is doing the same thing already as its clearly written on his profile and signature,

goodtalk is a travel/visa agent and i don't want these individuals to use the section to extend their business idea as this will go against the section rule.

We started this thread to render help to Nigerians free of charge and this idea has being walking all thanks to some people here and i hope we don't change the direction by introducing money into it.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 8:35am On Jul 03, 2013
trusted: It is beta to pay just a $100 to people who are ready to sacrifice their time to help than to pay hundreds of $ to scammer. I think justwise don't understand what it takes to be in no mans land without any help. Even the service is not by force or compulsory for anybody. These people av been there with years of xperience they know what it takes to survive there. How do you expect them to come and pick a person at the airport and to the hotel with their money? I will be one of the set of people that will benefit from the Palace Services by God grace. This is one of the benefit and advantange we look up to on this forum it is a great and welcome idea, we should all encourage and support it.
I know what it means to be in foreign land with nobody to help, its part of travel history and something anybody should think carefully before living Nigeria.

I also know what it means to fall into the hands of Nigerian parasites who promises new comers heaven and earth and milk them dry.

If you think that somebody will pick you from the airport, get you accommodation and job for a 'small' fees then you are living in cocoland.
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(mod): 8:28am On Jul 03, 2013
Vicjustice: Well, you don't seem to understand the reason Justwise asked you that question regarding the difference betwen Family Visit and Tourist visa...
I thought these issues had been raised before and they had been addressed... Now, about the American visa, that could only be a problem to someone who doesn't seem to have enough fund to finance two international holiday trips: but as someone who has a hundred and sixty million, why do you worry so much about a Uk tourist visa? Except there is irregularity with your huge finance causing a concern of corruption or dangerous activities especially such that finances terrorism. If you're clean from these, I see no country that won't be happy to grant you something more than a tourist visa
Exactly! Oh well.....
Travel › Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 2 by justwise(mod): 8:27am On Jul 03, 2013
sola21: Dear just wise, thanks for your response. From ur question, family visiting visa is when u have a family in uk and visitor is when u are without a family in the uk, the point I was trying to drive at is hope cos my boyfriend is on psw dat hope it wouldn't hinder our visa processing I didn't mean influence that was why I asked if you thought it would be more safe to book an hotel instead of putting his address down in the form. Also with booking an hotel would it raise an eyebrow that why would I want my child and I to stay in an hotel when we can stay with him and also that why am I applying for visitors visa when I ave a bf on temporary psw. It's just raised questions I need to she'd light on. Also just to add this, my son and I have an American visa which we were issued in April 2013 but we are yet to use it, hope these would affect getting a uk visa as well. As at today, my acct balance is 163 million hope it alright for my child and my application. Thanks always
I really don't know what else to say to you again, i guess you will learn from your own experience and i hope its not a bitter one.

We have explained this to you many times here that there is nothing wrong with visiting him as long as he is living in the UK legally and can afford to accommodate both of you, even if he can't you still need to acknowledge that the father of your baby lives in the UK, it will be difficult to convince the immigration that you are visiting the UK but does not want to see your bf, the father of your child

You have a good travel history and you ask a question that gives one the impression that you haven't traveled before, i expect you to know that there is nothing wrong with visiting somebody on PSW as long as that person meets the requirement, i can see you heading to 10yrs ban here as you prepare to book for hotel and pretend that you don't have somebody in the UK, not just anybody but the father of your child.

If at any point the immigrations found out that you actually have bf in the UK and even stayed with him then you will have a lot of explanations to do.

I really don't know why many people turn simple issue into complicated drama.

Sorry if i sound too harsh but i just have to say that.
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 12:34am On Jul 03, 2013
@All

I was just going through some posts here now and came across the idea brought up by goodtalk and supported by ogakpatakpata and few others. I'm not comfortable with this idea, this is going to bring division here and in other threads in this section where people have being rendering help yrs before this particular thread was created free without charge.If this idea is emulated around this forum then it will turn this section to business center.

If few of you start charging people for your help what do you think other people who have being equally helpful here will do?

I'm really really uncomfortable with this
Travel › Re: QATAR And UAE General Visa Enquiries by justwise(mod): 12:09am On Jul 03, 2013
@kaffy4tope

You need to remove the ad in your signature, that is against the forum rule. You will be banned until you do that

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