All you guys taking Panadol on OP's behalf, I did not read that he paid 500k. He said "transportation and expenses"

Easy to forget.

Seeing that Nissan ATF and CVT oil is becoming a challenge in Nigeria, maybe I should start stocking Idemitsu, which is the OEM manufacturers at cheaper price

FBN showing some resilience. Who knows what is happening?

maureen44:


If not at the mill, where else is oil produced. 2 reasons why your oil may not have good shelf is 1. if it contain water, 2.if it contains what we call fiber.

During the process of extracting oil from the palm fruit the first set of oil that comes out is what we call first grade oil, this oil have very good shelf life and taste, without odour even if stored for 2 years.

The second and last sets of oil that comes out is what we call second trade which may not have good shelf life like u noted and may even have taste and odour if stored for a longer time. Their prices might be slightly different. You can call me on 08064610560 for more clarification. Another thing is monitoring the guys at the mill while they are processing your request to avoid any sharp practice.

I come from part of the SE where oil mills are less than 10 years old. So, palm oil have always been extracted the traditional way - long wooden mortar, pestle and the rest. Labour intensive, smaller product, but premium.

These ones, the oil is the same colour, viscosity and taste from top of the container to the bottom. No need to shake while using it. More expensive. Problem is you just can't get it in large quantity!

I will ring you.

maureen44:
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A gallon of 25 liters is 8,500, location is Etima Ekpo, Akwa Ibom State.

I understand oil produced at the mills dont have good shelf life. Is this different?

I have tried many sources, and they are the same.

obekediamondfuto:


the big boss, I sight u..... how u dey naw, I for come do 6months IT for ur workshop oh!

LOL

Dokidoki:
hello car gurus I need your expert opinion about my vehicle. I noticed on cold start(in the morning or after bn parked for about 8hrs),the vehicle transmission does nt enter drive(it enters reverse gear easily).it gives a sound similar to bn in neutral gear(possibly it slips to N).
I am able to overcome the slip by raising RPM to about 3+ and it then enters drive with a loud thump.afterwhich the car drives normal throughout the day , selecting all gears smoothly and as appropriate(ofcourse until it's parked for another 8hrs plus nd I av to force it into drive gear again)
I also noticed that when I move to drive gear in the morning and I depress the brakes for about 7-9seconds ,d car shifts into gear with a mild thump nd am good for the day.
I also have bn able to overcome the early morning problem by allowing the vehicle to warm in the morning for about 10minutes(when I do that car shifts smoothly from start)
I have changed my transmission oil(T4) and av even cleaned d gear filter with no difference.am yet to scan d transmission but I will appreciate suggestions from experts in the house.
my mechanic here says it's valve body.another one said I shld change d gear while fingers av also bn pointed at gear selector and sensors.
vehicle is Toyota Camry 2003 V6.
I just remembered problem started after I used my battery to start someone's car nd my RPM became low so I had d Mech increase it temporarily till it normalise which happened nd gave me high rpm... though I tried reducing it bt it's still higher than normal(could dt be related to d gear issue I started experiencing afterwards?)

gazzuzz
GAZZUZZ
kingsreign
mayor
kayshif

all other car gurus ur advise is needed.

Tell your mechanic to take your engine idle speed back to original setting (however he did it). The higher than normal engine idle speed is causing issues.

After you used your battery to jumpstart​ another car, your car lost volatile memory where stuffs like engine control mapping is stored. All that was needed was to drive the car for some time to relearn.

Na you cause your wahala.

dino2006:
Good mrnin bosses.

Quite interesting stuffs to learn here. I have a somewhat similar issue with my camry 2000.

Beginin frm a point of rest, my engine revs very high when shifting frm gear 1 to 2, it kld get as high as 4500rpms provided i throttle hard, takin some few seconds before it engages frm 1 to 2. However, if i suddenly take my foot off the pedal, it engages immediately.

Transition from gear 2-3, 3-4, 4-5 is smooth while car is already on speed.
I tried the 'driving uphill test', car kept on moving slowly and engine did not rev high.

My mechanic thought the atf oil filter may be blocked, so he loosed d oil filter when engine was cold, and put a new atf but problem has persisted.

What could be the problem pls?
Cc kashif Cc mayor2013

Scan the car. Did you say you have 5th gear?

obekediamondfuto:


boss why r u showing off naw?

all Toyota Camry users experience this, I cannot say for other brands, but Camry? if u r not experiencing this this u must be heavy footed and u will never experience the bliss of economy mpg!

I dont show off.

You think this is common, but a practicing technician thinks it is a problem, and arguing upandan. Is it not disturbing?

mayor2013:


Now you are beginning to divert the subject matter. Anyways I would leave it for another day. Great having an argument with you

LOL! All digressions came from you Oga. Now its obvious what you wanted - Argument!

fxuser:


its showing on investment one but not on morgan . .
umm .. na wa

It was on Morgan too

Somebody is toying with FBN.....

mayor2013:
Calibration of gear is possible on the MB, BMW were VGS and EGS respectively needs to be relearned in cases where transmissions are changed, where TCM are replaced and if one or 2 transmission components are replaced. These 2 control units have mentioned up there are integral parts of the transmission. In a case of a Toyota Camry 2005 no TCM all commands come from the pcm. If you replace pcm when you do the down programming transmission starts working without going into any fail safe mode. No reset of adaptive values on transmission is possible on a Toyota Camry 2005 sir

Did I mention adaptive reset for this car?

In this context, calibration=software=programming=logic done by Toyota on how the transmission works before it leaves their factory! You cannot modify it. I leave you to christen where this logic is stored in - TCM, ECU, PCM, ECM, but know that it is stored somewhere the processor(s) can access it. All you can do is reflash ECU with updated calibration if it is available. Are you now saying that all Toyotas that have adaptive memory reset functionality have a separate TCM?

Its obvious you have never seen this 'problem' before, the reason you think it was cable, filter etc.

I really do not see any other way to explain this to you. :

adanny01:


From my understanding of OPs description, i would guess either a slipping gear or a kick down problem.

I experienced both with a 1996 Honda accord and my friend experienced slipping problem with his 2008 Honda accord.

The old accord would instead of shifting down to 2 after slowing down, it shifts to 1 which may be too low for the speed but instantly shifts to 2. So it shifts from say 4 - 1 - 2 instead of 4 - 2. The same car slips when changing from 3-4. It down shifts 4-3 normally but Revs up for some seconds before shifting to 4. During the high rev if foot is removed from accelerator, gear shifts to 4 immediately.

My friends car too revs up when shifting 1-2. In his case both down and up shifting to 2 will rev up the engine until foot is removed from accelerator or it takes about 5-10secs before engaging the gear.

I concluded engine revving up for up to 7secs before gear is engaged maybe slipping. My friend repaired his by changing a seal inside the transmission. Of course it was taken apart completely. I guess OP's problem is slipping at downshift to 2.

Cc Kashif

Oga, this man's gear is not slipping. If it is, the atf will show it. He confirmed atf is still fresh, which does not happen in a slipping gear. It is just the way it was designed to behave. In transmission shift timing/feel issues, the first step is in seeing what the computer is commanding. OP can go for live data analysis if he so wishes but, I can't remember if the neutral feel ever shows there. If it is exactly as described by him, he has no issue per se.

It is easy to mistake this for a problem.

sidimaruf:


Sir, by actual values, do you mean we hook up a scanner to the car while test driving it? Pls explain more. I want to try that and see the results

Modified.........ps include the type of scanner to be used.

Yes, that's what he meant. You see signals flowing through the computer live (live PIDs). You can also record this, and then sit back to analyse later (called movie). Just like you have in Flight Data Recorder in airplanes.

Only advanced third party and OEM scanners can do that.

sidimaruf:




You know sir, In my first post on this thread I deliberately left out the part of what i feel when going uphill or down hill, hoping someone will mention it as part of the symptoms. And you did.

The thing is that the issue started not too long. Car is just three months old. Bought it in Dec 2017, tokunbo.

Thank you.

Bro, I can assure you nothing is wrong with your car, unless you have other symptoms. You may not have noticed it before now, as car is still relatively new to you.

Now, drive it like this and report your finding:- after you slow down to where you would normally experience this, press the throttle harder and see if you get this long delay.

mayor2013:


I expected you to narrow it down to Toyota sir. I know the likes of Volvo, benz, BMW but for a Camry 2005 what actually are you calibrating when there no TCM. Signals are only picked from the pcm

My fourth paragraph is on Toyota, go back and read it again.

I am surprised you are asking this basic question about calibration. So you think whatever in automobile's name that controls the transmission is not calibrated by the designers? You don't know it runs a software? Did I say a mechanic does the calibration? Is it about semantics now? Have you ever worked with a blank ECU/PCM before?

It is better you say you don't know, and then learn, instead of just arguing for the sake of it. Well, did you know that this transmission in question (in this Camry) actually has two 3rd gear ranges, and selects one depending on pressure? Technically, it has 6 speeds! The details are too technical for this discuss.

mayor2013:


What's misleading about what have written up there if I may ask. I wouldn't know the calibration yet. Maybe oga Kashif can enlighten me more on this for a Camry 2005. I need to learn

Calibration is programming or more specifically, strategy in this case. It is in the 'brainbox' programming.

It is a way automobile manufacturers integrate/drive automatic transmissions. That is why you can see same transmission behaving differently in different brands. For instance Aisin transmission in VW and Volvo will behave differently. In some models of Volvo, once you stop for X number of times within X distance, without exceeding X speed, the car automatically switches to Traffic mode. In this mode, it will start in 2 and will delay upshifts. There are many manufacturer-specific strategies like that. ZFs can be programmed in tonnes of ways.

Other strategies could restrict shift when it senses the vehicle is making a bend. This is where it is very important that the same size of tires are installed and inflated equally at all times. Once there is a difference, the vehicle thinks you are in a bend, and you are stuck in a range.

In this Toyota case, it is something I know, and only needed the OP to confirm. It should be noted that the delays are typically 2-3 seconds, depending on how light you go on throttle after applying brakes. If you don't touch the brakes, it stays away. His complaint about 7 seconds is just a psychology thing, as it looks like eternity, especially if you are coming from another vehicle that doesn't deploy this strategy. At lower speeds and brakes are applied, the computer commands the gear to neutral, and will select based on what your TPS tells it. Unfortunately, the computer is just too slow at doing this job well. It can be annoying, but that's the way it is. Like I said before, the heavier you go on the throttle after braking, the quicker the downshift. The reason it doesn't happen at higher speeds is because the computer already knows that a downshift is not likely.

Hope this helps in understanding why a similar symptom in a Honda (or any other brand) could be caused by something entirely different.

Haba! Una no dey sleep?

mayor2013:
Have your gear selector cable checked first

mayor2013:
Open up bottom tray check condition of transmission strainer

mayor2013:


Warning!!! do not do this while hot. At least allow for 24hrs if tranny is hot.

N.B : do this at your own risk

mayor2013:


What calibration are we talking about here. Definitely not on this ride. @ op get a bidirectional scan tool visit a competent workshop and let them monitor your transmission performance using actual values. Through this you would be able to tell if your transmission shifts properly. If you don't know how and you get a professional scan tool. I can put you through

Chief, first you said check cable, then you said filter, and now bidirectional scanner. On top one issue? What do you reckon they should monitor with the scanner biko?

OP has confirmed what I suspected and IMO, he does not need further diagnosis. If you want me to go deeper into calibration for info, and not argument, I would be happy to do that.

Shalom.

sidimaruf:


Thanks for u input.

U r right, that issue do not happen when driving uphill-like road, or any hill.

But it happens when decending with legs on brake & slowing down hill-like road, or any hill. Any moment I put my foot on throttle after getting down from such road, tranny seems to be in neutral for some secs and car revs high.

Then nothing is wrong with your gear. It is just calibration that kicks in once you apply brakes at lower speeds, as it tries to improve fuel efficiency. It just waits for your throttle input to know which range to select. If you go heavy on throttle, it makes decision more quickly.

Just enjoy your ride.

sidimaruf:


Sir, I have checked the cable selector, it is ok.
Car drives fine, just that when I apply brake to slow down to anything less than 50km/h
Upon pressing the throttle again I expect the gear to have already downshifted to like 2 or 1, but transmission goes to neutral for few seconds making the rpm go up


Problem still persist. Car Gurus help me here biko

Nothing should concern range cable with this problem.

DO NOT touch anything inside that gear. I think it is just a computer calibration playing games with your mind. To confirm this, drive uphill and let the car slow down on its own without using the brakes. If what you described doesn't happen, it is calibration.

geovidal:
Yes o, just like that. Shaft not spinning.

The input shaft I am referring to is the one that enters the gearbox. You won't know unless you put a scanner. Is your sump dented?

Raise the front tyres and see if they spin in D.

Strange. No forward, no reverse? Just like that.

Check sump. Is the input shaft spinning?

It's criminal to roll back odometers!! It makes maintenance of such vehicles a nightmare. WTH??

OlugbengaE:


I sent you a PM kindly replay

I have.

Jejebaba:


Still looks like Janet style ooo, might be too early to tell.

You see what I mean?

Bears gradually losing grip.....

People who are saying that NSE tracks DOW, why has it not been breaking record highs like DOW?

locodemy:
Na so them go dey talk say i go soon go exile for RSA.
Person wey carry money for hand dey go exile?
-una no see 9free wey wan fbn @16 is now looking for it at 3.
-oracle wey dey support market move don run comot adding terror to the market.
-Agba wey say bull go run rich December don leave u people confused.
-Deruggedproof is no where to be found .
-Even currentprice don turn to a bell ringer for bears.

FOLLOW FOLLOW NO BE FOR LOCO & COMPANY.


MAKE UNA GO BUY UNION BANK B4 UNA BEGIN CRUCIFY ME FOR NOTHING.
SOMETHING GOOD DEY HERE.

Don't mind them. Bull come, they say the mother of all bulls yet to enter. TB proceeds hitting the market, oyibo brothers yet to show. Bear, consolidation come, they are blowing fire everywhere. Shuo!

These things are psychological. If you spread fear (some times for selfish end) nobody will buy. Somebody mentioned here that if everyone trades with what they can lose, the bulls will remain caged.

Shalom

RabbiDoracle:


Market never even grind beans sef...

(Complete it)

Take it easy

timifakay:



Those big garages that can quote 10k for ordinary clips!
Their invoice would be something like this
Head lamps- set
Bumper
Bumper bracket
Bumper clips
Splash protector
Splash protector clips
Mud guard
Fender
Fender pad
Front collision sensors
Labour.
Then they will give 5% discount on labour after much negotiation.

I can imagine.