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sidimaruf:
Sir, by actual values, do you mean we hook up a scanner to the car while test driving it? Pls explain more. I want to try that and see the results

Modified.........ps include the type of scanner to be used.

Yes, that's what he meant. You see signals flowing through the computer live (live PIDs). You can also record this, and then sit back to analyse later (called movie). Just like you have in Flight Data Recorder in airplanes.

Only advanced third party and OEM scanners can do that.

sidimaruf:
You know sir, In my first post on this thread I deliberately left out the part of what i feel when going uphill or down hill, hoping someone will mention it as part of the symptoms. And you did.

The thing is that the issue started not too long. Car is just three months old. Bought it in Dec 2017, tokunbo.

Thank you.

Bro, I can assure you nothing is wrong with your car, unless you have other symptoms. You may not have noticed it before now, as car is still relatively new to you.

Now, drive it like this and report your finding:- after you slow down to where you would normally experience this, press the throttle harder and see if you get this long delay.

mayor2013:
I expected you to narrow it down to Toyota sir. I know the likes of Volvo, benz, BMW but for a Camry 2005 what actually are you calibrating when there no TCM. Signals are only picked from the pcm

My fourth paragraph is on Toyota, go back and read it again.

I am surprised you are asking this basic question about calibration. So you think whatever in automobile's name that controls the transmission is not calibrated by the designers? You don't know it runs a software? Did I say a mechanic does the calibration? Is it about semantics now? Have you ever worked with a blank ECU/PCM before?

It is better you say you don't know, and then learn, instead of just arguing for the sake of it. Well, did you know that this transmission in question (in this Camry) actually has two 3rd gear ranges, and selects one depending on pressure? Technically, it has 6 speeds! The details are too technical for this discuss.

mayor2013:
What's misleading about what have written up there if I may ask. I wouldn't know the calibration yet. Maybe oga Kashif can enlighten me more on this for a Camry 2005. I need to learn

Calibration is programming or more specifically, strategy in this case. It is in the 'brainbox' programming.

It is a way automobile manufacturers integrate/drive automatic transmissions. That is why you can see same transmission behaving differently in different brands. For instance Aisin transmission in VW and Volvo will behave differently. In some models of Volvo, once you stop for X number of times within X distance, without exceeding X speed, the car automatically switches to Traffic mode. In this mode, it will start in 2 and will delay upshifts. There are many manufacturer-specific strategies like that. ZFs can be programmed in tonnes of ways.

Other strategies could restrict shift when it senses the vehicle is making a bend. This is where it is very important that the same size of tires are installed and inflated equally at all times. Once there is a difference, the vehicle thinks you are in a bend, and you are stuck in a range.

In this Toyota case, it is something I know, and only needed the OP to confirm. It should be noted that the delays are typically 2-3 seconds, depending on how light you go on throttle after applying brakes. If you don't touch the brakes, it stays away. His complaint about 7 seconds is just a psychology thing, as it looks like eternity, especially if you are coming from another vehicle that doesn't deploy this strategy. At lower speeds and brakes are applied, the computer commands the gear to neutral, and will select based on what your TPS tells it. Unfortunately, the computer is just too slow at doing this job well. It can be annoying, but that's the way it is. Like I said before, the heavier you go on the throttle after braking, the quicker the downshift. The reason it doesn't happen at higher speeds is because the computer already knows that a downshift is not likely.

Hope this helps in understanding why a similar symptom in a Honda (or any other brand) could be caused by something entirely different.

Haba! Una no dey sleep?

mayor2013:
Have your gear selector cable checked first

mayor2013:
Open up bottom tray check condition of transmission strainer

mayor2013:
Warning!!! do not do this while hot. At least allow for 24hrs if tranny is hot.

N.B : do this at your own risk

mayor2013:
What calibration are we talking about here. Definitely not on this ride. @ op get a bidirectional scan tool visit a competent workshop and let them monitor your transmission performance using actual values. Through this you would be able to tell if your transmission shifts properly. If you don't know how and you get a professional scan tool. I can put you through

Chief, first you said check cable, then you said filter, and now bidirectional scanner. On top one issue? What do you reckon they should monitor with the scanner biko?

OP has confirmed what I suspected and IMO, he does not need further diagnosis. If you want me to go deeper into calibration for info, and not argument, I would be happy to do that.

Shalom.

sidimaruf:
Thanks for u input.

U r right, that issue do not happen when driving uphill-like road, or any hill.

But it happens when decending with legs on brake & slowing down hill-like road, or any hill. Any moment I put my foot on throttle after getting down from such road, tranny seems to be in neutral for some secs and car revs high.

Then nothing is wrong with your gear. It is just calibration that kicks in once you apply brakes at lower speeds, as it tries to improve fuel efficiency. It just waits for your throttle input to know which range to select. If you go heavy on throttle, it makes decision more quickly.

Just enjoy your ride.

sidimaruf:
Sir, I have checked the cable selector, it is ok.
Car drives fine, just that when I apply brake to slow down to anything less than 50km/h
Upon pressing the throttle again I expect the gear to have already downshifted to like 2 or 1, but transmission goes to neutral for few seconds making the rpm go up


Problem still persist. Car Gurus help me here biko

Nothing should concern range cable with this problem.

DO NOT touch anything inside that gear. I think it is just a computer calibration playing games with your mind. To confirm this, drive uphill and let the car slow down on its own without using the brakes. If what you described doesn't happen, it is calibration.

geovidal:
Yes o, just like that. Shaft not spinning.

The input shaft I am referring to is the one that enters the gearbox. You won't know unless you put a scanner. Is your sump dented?

Raise the front tyres and see if they spin in D.

Strange. No forward, no reverse? Just like that.

Check sump. Is the input shaft spinning?

It's criminal to roll back odometers!! It makes maintenance of such vehicles a nightmare. WTH??

OlugbengaE:
I sent you a PM kindly replay

I have.

Jejebaba:
Still looks like Janet style ooo, might be too early to tell.

You see what I mean?

Bears gradually losing grip.....

People who are saying that NSE tracks DOW, why has it not been breaking record highs like DOW?

locodemy:
Na so them go dey talk say i go soon go exile for RSA.
Person wey carry money for hand dey go exile?
-una no see 9free wey wan fbn @16 is now looking for it at 3.
-oracle wey dey support market move don run comot adding terror to the market.
-Agba wey say bull go run rich December don leave u people confused.
-Deruggedproof is no where to be found .
-Even currentprice don turn to a bell ringer for bears.

FOLLOW FOLLOW NO BE FOR LOCO & COMPANY.


MAKE UNA GO BUY UNION BANK B4 UNA BEGIN CRUCIFY ME FOR NOTHING.
SOMETHING GOOD DEY HERE.

Don't mind them. Bull come, they say the mother of all bulls yet to enter. TB proceeds hitting the market, oyibo brothers yet to show. Bear, consolidation come, they are blowing fire everywhere. Shuo!

These things are psychological. If you spread fear (some times for selfish end) nobody will buy. Somebody mentioned here that if everyone trades with what they can lose, the bulls will remain caged.

Shalom

RabbiDoracle:
Market never even grind beans sef...

(Complete it)

Take it easy

timifakay:
Those big garages that can quote 10k for ordinary clips!
Their invoice would be something like this
Head lamps- set
Bumper
Bumper bracket
Bumper clips
Splash protector
Splash protector clips
Mud guard
Fender
Fender pad
Front collision sensors
Labour.
Then they will give 5% discount on labour after much negotiation.

I can imagine.

GAZZUZZ:
In December 2017, I sold a toyota corrola 2003 to a nairalander.

I suggested he insures car comprehensively before Use.

he took my advice, he insured with Axamansard on the 28th of December 2017.

On the 22nd of January 2018 car was involved in an accident, and the driver using his vehicle was at fault.

Axamansard swung into action, taking responsibility for both cars.

The repair quote for his car costs over 100,000 to fix, while the quote for repair of the other car is over 900,000.

it is wise to have comprehensive insurance, it gives you peace of mind.

insure your vehicle comprehensively today.

gazzuzz

Cc axamansard.

Wait o, 900K to replace this lens and fix the scratch?!

axamansard:
You were hit, which Means you are not liable for the accident but the third-party, since you are comprehensively insured, you are covered, but the excess clause still applies, which means you will bear a particular portion of the loss repairs, when you buy vehicle insurance without excess buyback, you are alternatively telling the insurance that when a loss occurs you both will contribute to fixing the car.
So next time transfer full liability to the insurance by buying excess and be rest assured you are contributing no dime to treat a loss.

My account manager told me that the repair quote was lower than bla bla bla, so they were not paying nothing.

I went for her throat because I called her from the scene and she told me to get a note from offender accepting liability and pic of ID and walk away. I could not swallow the U turn, and she had to pay! No be apology I go chop.

Funny enough, offender was willing to repair!

mayor2013:
Am curious about the insurance having to take care of the bills of the other car. Kindly explain this never heard about this. Sound whole strange

That is what they call third party - damage to others' property. Same applies when you hit a pedestrian and cause injury or death. Your insurers can pay up to N10,000,000.

If you have comprehensive cover and hit someone, just call them, exchange contacts with the third party and walk away

EddieMurphie:
Yes it's third party, Axamansard can be responsible cos the corolla was at fault. But why can't the owner of the other car just let go as I wanna believe the car is comprehensively insured as well.... i.e both cars should be should fixed by their insurance companies respectively.

You were hit from behind and Axamansard was telling stories of excess buyback, really!!! Maybe it wasn't in the plan u subscribed for, that doesn't mean they won't fix ur car, u just have to pay a certain percentage of the quote.

You will be surprised most Nigerians don't insure their cars. I have seen RR owners without insurance. If you are hit by a reckless driver, your insurance company goes after his insurers if he has one. They don't like to spend.

I have comprehensive insurance, and Axa told me stories about repair quote being lower than some nonsense which I still don't understand. I flipped and threatened to pull out, so my account manager had to do something. Imagine giving me cock and bull poo at my very first claim after seven years!

I now pay for excess buyback - whatever it means!

EddieMurphie:
Nice one, but how about the other car, isn't it comprehensively insured as well? Why is axamansard taking responsibility? Just curious

That is third party. The Corolla owner is responsible for the repair.

I have been hit from behind before, and Axamansard told me stories about excess buy back.

valacious:
The question now is what percentage of your portfolio gives the 20%?...because you may want to diversify to hedge your risk...or do you just go with your guts and select that one winning stock and ride with?

50% of portfolio at a time maybe

samzepaparazi:
i do 20% percent monthly. January bull was even more than that.

The secret is buy low , wait, sell high.


Collect your money and wait patiently for another oportunity.

Warning. Make your 20 to 25 % and lock up untill you spot another good fall. Dont try to become an expert by thinking you can turn over several times ....

20% 5 times is 100%

Hope this helps

Sure does, thanks.

Toluway:
what if there is no capital appreciation for a month or two ?
if 10% could be consistent, I would have just be putting 2m and getting for myself a salary of 200k per month for the rest of my life. I'm not asking for much

Same here.

rebekah2011:
Max 120% per annum. Some people have done over 200% this year and still not satisfied. You will serious studying, research and patience..

That is it for some people. I will be okay with 10% monthly pere! I will need to dust my technical books.

How person fit dey make 10% or even 5% for this market monthly?

Chibuking81:
Help me to thank the lord God whom made it possible for me to add additional year today.

Brothers and sisters in the lord, today is my BIRTHDAY

Happy birthday dianyi. More grace!

DOLLARTEX:
Dont doubt the oracle.can flourmill do another 10% morrow?closed on full bid,i dont know where the bus stop is again!

Technically, it has about N2 more to get to recent resistance so yes, it can do 10% tomorrow.

Who knows how Diamond was able to withstand the bears today?

Well, was able to get Fidelity at day's low.

SmartToyota:
You can chat my contact up on whatsapp

What is your contact?