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Fourwinds: oh u don't know a sinner can be save at any moment depending on his remorse heart and a saint falling out of grace.! watch ur back. dis world is a mystery...

Dude. Don't even try to play the righteousness card in this tragedy. In 1912, ships were allocated

lifeboats based on their gross tonnage and NOT the number of passengers they could carry.

Also, in times of disasters as such, special treatment was often given to Women and Children.

The lifeboats that were launched too had to start evacuating passengers from the top decks

which was occupied by the first class passengers, followed by the middle class passengers.

Thus, much more people died in the lower decks cuz the flooding had gotten to an advanced

stage before it was their turn to board the lifeboats, using your way of reasoning, does that mean

that God saved the first class passengers cuz they were rich and let the poor die cuz they were

poor?! Even the first lifeboats that were launched were nowhere close to being filled cuz people

were scared of boarding the boats as the ship had not really developed a severe list like it did

before it broke amidships. Some people who had been evacuated didn't want to come back cuz

they were scared of the suction effect and that the remaining survivors might swamp their boats.

Some rich people bribed their way into lifeboats cuz they had money but others died cuz they

couldn't. Does that count as God's grace too?! I implore you not to mish mash whatever you don't

understand with whatever you think you do. Think, research, learn the facts and don't always use

the name of God to support mundane things or anything you can't get a grasp of.

All some people have seen about the Titanic here is just the movie and probably a few

Wikipedia footnotes and they believe they know everything about the ship and the disaster

already.

Fourwinds: don't forget some were saved. it wasn't a total destruction. dey were covered by His lovely grace. d way dere will be a separation at d end. its a matter of time

So, those who died when the Titanic sank were sinners innit and those who survived were saints?

Sile12: I believe his Name didn't show up on the manifest because he won the ticket 5 minutes to the departure,it was Rose that told his story.

Even if he joined as a stowaway and had been found halfway to New York, his name would have

been found in the ship's manifest and log books. You don't go onboard a passenger ship without

being accounted for. If the rats on the ship could be counted, they would be recorded in those log

books somewhere. The Rose you're talking about was a fictional character. If you choose to

believe in what never happened however, feel free to do so. People have always believed in more

fantasies than what is real.

Sile12: Though I wasn't there,but what about the Jack's drawings the Mariners(Brock Lovett), searching for Hearth of the Ocean(Diamond) found in the safe in Rose's room&other things that connected the two lovers

The drawings were originally made by James Cameron, the Canadian film director and producer

who was in charge of the movie production. There was no Jack Dawson on the Titanic. That's a

fact that is undisputed. If you go to the Merseyside Maritime Museum at Albert Dock, here in

Liverpool, you'd find the original passenger manifest and you won't find any Jack Dawson there.

There was a Joseph Dawson and he's NOT the Jack portrayed in the movie.

So like I had said before, the Titanic disaster was real, and most of the facts were beautifully

presented in the movie with superb special effects, however to generate an even deeper

connection with the audience and to squeeze as much emotion out of all those who would watch

it, the fictional Jack and Rose story was chucked in for astounding measure and it definitely paid

off as we can all attest to. In the real disaster, there were just 37 seconds between the time of

sighting the iceberg to the time at which it grazed the hull of the ship, there were no Jack and

Rose kissing on the main deck to distract the men in the crow's nest.

Everything happened in the blink of an eye, laziness played a part, negligence played a part,

a non uniform code of distress signals played a part, the construction of the ship and its aft

expansion joint with the height of its bulkheads played a part, but overall sheer rotten luck took

them all down to watery graves.

The movie would be no different to the documentary of a tragedy if the additional tit-bits were

not added to spice it up.

trustedward: original photo of jack Dawson

The story of Jack and Rose was a fictional plot created to exploit and maximize the emotional

impact and connection the viewers would have with the movie. They didn't exist on the Titanic,

however all the other parts of the movie were as close as they could be to the real thing.

I remember watching the movie for the first time a long way back then with almost all the family

members wiping away tears and I could clearly remember promising myself that the last place

I'd step on would be a ship hehehe. A decade later, the chronology of the Titanic's sinking and the

effects it brought about in terms of the subsequent changes to maritime laws happened to be my

final project, a few years after that I found myself sailing around on ships and today, I find myself

living a stone's throw away from the defunct original office of Bruce Ismay and the White Star

Lines, the shipping company that ordered and operated the Titanic from Albert Dock in 1912 in

Liverpool. I get reminded of the disaster everyday but you can't outrun destiny I guess.

Well, if you bring up such a topic that shows how much some people can afford to pay for the

education of their kids in Nigeria where the minimum wage is just over $100 a month or so, and

where life and their government has been unfair to millions for eons, a country where 20 billion

can be stolen by a politician and no one bats an eyelid, you don't expect people to see the sense

in spending such extortionate amounts of money, do you?

'If you have the money, send your kids there' is a fair suggestion but if I think of Lagos, probably

less than 1% of the 20 million that live there can afford such and that is a reflection of the whole

country. Its true that these schools are more of status symbols and they do churn out more

cliques than they churn out kids who can hold their own in a deceitful and cold world.

Personally, even if I have the money, my kids will definitely benefit from having a rich dad, but i

also want them to be able to work hard on their own, to be able to blend into any scene, be it on

the posh divide or the 'street' divide, I would want kids who are tough nuts to crack and not faint-

hearted kids who won't survive a day in the school of life's hard knocks. There's almost nothing

as self-fulfilling knowing that you made it thus far because you deserve it by virtue of your work

and sweat whilst driven on by the determination to succeed than knowing fully well that you got

to where you are cuz your dad pushed some 'buttons'. Everything's got its pros and cons.

With the exception of the Lion pets and all, you'd find just as much flagrant displays of money and

wealth in the South Kensington, Soho, Knightsbridge etc areas of Westminster too. However, its

also the emiratis you'd find to be the usual exhibitors anyway.

If you die in the House Of Parliament at Westminster, you automatically go to hell innit hehehe.

People keep going on and on about Britons being racist is why the young man won't win.

If the 'whites' so to speak know how much Africans discriminate within themselves, they ought

to be racist. Even though they share the same black skin, some still elevate themselves o'er

others cuz they don't share the same mother tongue, or ethnic background with them.

I hope the man wins, though I acknowledge his chances are pretty slim but when the subject

matter is racism, I think Africans are among the worst perpetrators the world has ever seen

alongside the Nazis. People will look at you in Nigeria and the first thing they'd gauge you by is the

tribe you're from but they scream blue murder when people from other nations do likewise to

them.

jorhney: me

The upper body belongs to a young lad in his early teens. The face looks a tad girly, got me confused a bit initially but its all good now.

drkay: Was hoping to see things like: Owo obe fight(money for soup fight), reason for bleeping d woman in d next street fight etc. All dose d op wrote look foreign.

True, MOST not all of the points would look out of place in an everyday Nigerian couple's argument.
However, the 'Women are always right' myth has always intrigued me. I think its going out of vogue gradually and less women are probably hiding behind that myth nowadays. I might be wrong though and it could just be the personality that would predispose the woman to accepting defeat when she's wrong.
But whatever the case may be, no woman will try to use that 'the woman is always right' clause with you if you're damn sure of your onions (and you've got the bank balance to back it up).

And people think the genders are equal. If anything will give, its the men that should be campaigning for equal rights and it does apply to men all around the World.
Whilst I was living in Chennai, India, if you are unlucky enough to have been reported to the police by a woman, the first thing they'd do regardless of what the matter is, or who is at fault, is to detain you. Irregardless of who gets into the bus first and how long or short the distance to travel is, you're expected as a man to stand up for the woman even if its a small girl and give her your seat instead despite the fact that the buses have got seperate seats for men and women. She can nag you to death at home also whilst reminding you that she paid for your 'groomprice' and the law doesn't really give enough support or even consideration to abused men. In Nigeria, its probably just as worse. The society is severely prejudiced towards men and it makes me wonder when I see Feminists throw tantrums about their percieved sense of injustice whilst your own wife can send you packing from a house whose rent will be deducted from your account because she suspects you of cheating in 1st World countries.

In my own humble opinion, I think conspiracy theorists do conjure up these theories cuz there

are always a huge number of people who are always waiting to be confused, can't seem to believe

in anything, and would like to be seen as standing out from the crowd.

Some of the theories they come up with can be really thought-provoking sometimes though, but

most times, the theories are only meant to instill fear, hatred, paranoia, doubt and to promote an

erosion of self confidence in decision making. I think its best to free oneself of any propaganda

when trying to make sense of anything but its easier said than done if you don't believe in

anything. If you don't believe in anything, you'd believe anything.

The Titanic was once said to have been a conspiracy for example, I started to scrutinize the whole

thing and I just began to doubt it for no reason. Today, as a Navigator, I know much better about it

being an undisputed fact.

As a quick means of bringing a halt to hunger or when I'm feeling lazy and don't want to spend a

lot of time in the kitchen, I do cook some on occasions whilst trying to spice it up as much as I

can, but its not one of my basic everyday dishes. So in other words, I'm not addicted or obsessed

with it.

Armed with cuisines from Nigeria and a few continental, intercontinental dishes. It partially comes

with living in a number of countries over an extended period of time, and its partially borne out of

necessity. Can't eat pizzas, burgers, kebabs, noodles, baguettes, pies and muffin cakes all my life

man. And I'm not, thanks to a few select shops on the Merseyside where 'African' dish

making ingredients can be sourced from, I run my kitchen and that makes palates run in turn.

*In other news, Breakfast is served. Bon Appetit.

The moderator was probably bribed by the OP in order to help promote his blog. I can't imagine

any other means through which that post would have merited the front page of Nairaland.

Your travails are pretty minor compared to what you'd face in that building if your passport ever

gets missing. Lost mine last year and had a torrid time renewing it cuz of the required documents

that I was asked to produce by the immigration officials including a police report for the missing

passport, something which the police had stopped issuing since 2012. I was directed to pay a

postal order of 20 GBP at the post office that's just off the adjoining street that runs past

the national gallery to the North of Trafalgar square, came back a bit late only to be told I should

have bought a postal order worth 100 GBP instead, and that even if I had bought the correct

postal order, I wouldn't be allowed into the building as it was past 2 PM or so I think, bearing in

mind that that's the only Nigerian Immigration Service outlet that works in the UK. It wouldn't

matter if you travelled down all the way from Carlisle, Newcastle, Aberdeen in the north or nearby

Croydon, Luton or Reading you'd all be attended to like y'all live on Northumberland Avenue itself.

Travelled from Liverpool in the North West down to Westminster on 3 different occasions for the

replacement, gave 'em a royal mail special delivery pack to prevent me having to come to

collect it in person, the morons still managed to send another person's passport to me in my own

delivery parcel. Had to pay to send it back to 'em again using another special delivery pack.

Got the replacement passport after a month from the date of biometrics enrollment.

The high commission is just a reflection of the bigger contraption called Nigeria.

wheredemdey: MONUMENTAL INSIPID UNASSUMING RET4RDED FULL BLOWN F***KING M0R0N.

The fact that the other dude you quoted got so many likes as he had asked for makes one wonder if people really believed it.
I don't want to imagine that Nigerians can be that gullible. People will believe that the sun won't rise up tomorrow morning if you just say so. You don't even need to sound convincing.

If you believe the OP actually started the rumours, you're just as gullible as those who've been

diving into salty water since the rumours began.

The people who really started it probably won't come onto a social forum to apologize.

Washing of hands frequently, maintaining good hygiene and avoiding coming into contact

with the sweat and the bodily fluids of others are the only means of prevention now, at least till

a vaccine or treatment is developed.

When did studying in the UK or the US become an excuse for speaking deceptively?

Why do we all have to speak like Britons and Americans?

Why haven't people who studied in Prague, Amsterdam, Paris, Dublin, Edinburgh copied the

accents of the Czechs, Dutch, French, Irish, and Scots?

I've never heard Glaswegians speak like the English, some scots don't even understand any

language other than Gaelic, neither can some spell their names correctly in English.

Never understood the obsession with fake accents. It won't increase your bank balance.

It sure won't increase 'your rep'. It won't save from Ebola either.

My elder brother's mother-in-law has lived in Baltimore for well over 2 decades but I do have to

listen attentively to her sometimes cuz her Yoruba is even more traditional than my mum's.

Be proud of where you come from. If you have to speak English, speak concisely and clearly.

Its pointless to speak in a way that the folks around you won't understand, unless you're a spy.

If spending money on a girl you're in a relationship with is the prerequisite to having sex with her,

she's no better off than a sex worker then.

You might miss the ability to blend in with the populace seamlessly without sticking out like a

sore thumb sometimes, like you would enjoy whilst back in the fatherland.

Never really noticed that, but if there are ladies who are shy of eating in local restaurants, the most plausible reason IMHO could be that they want to be seen as 'Posh' and 'Classy' even if they will still feast on bucketfuls of gari and groundnut when they get home.

Well, I think the classification of such depends on what you believe in.

Based on biblical case studies, there are several instances of parents blessing/cursing their

offspring in God's name and authority and the said blessing or curse goes on to generate a

positive or negative ripple effect which affects not just the the said children but their own kids

and grandkids and so on.

Personally, I'd advice anyone who can to avoid being cursed anyway.

You don't really want to use your lifetime as an experiment to ascertain if curses are real or not

by going round asking old people to curse you. Instead, you can use your life as an experiment

to see if prayers for blessing from old folks work. Go round doing good things that would elicit

not just prayers for your good from old people (and young people alike), but also heart-felt

gratitude and then we'll see if it works or not. If it works, awesome. If it doesn't...oh well.

Well, in an ideal world anybody should be able to make the first move.

But the same women who'd tell you they can't ask a man out would be the first to pushstart the

bandwagon when gender equality is the topic. Double standards innit?

I once went to see a lecturer of mine in her office, and upon the first poster on the wall anyone'd

see upon entry was the phrase 'Give your daughter less pocket money than your son'.

I was intrigued and asked her why she supported that notion and she replied: 'women already

have the advantage of having it easier than men in the job markets, in the domestic scene, in

the outside world where they are treated with kid gloves and protected in the view that they are

the weaker sex...I need a daughter who is a toughened nut and would earn respect, not demand

it'. The said lecturer is a 58 year old English woman who is qualified to be the Captain of a ship.

After all's been said and done, feminism might have started off with genuine motives, but in my

humble opinion, in this 21st century, feminism has become a bandwagon of bullcrap.

I'm not really bothered by it anyway. Afterall I'm only going to be married to one woman for life.

And she's going to be a woman that has got the screws on her head and shoulders screwed on

pretty tight, not some boring, sex-starved, holier-than-thou, demented woman who will tell me

my surname is not her piece of cake after marriage.

Nothing substantial. Just zero quid.

In Nigeria, when I hear people who claim to speak in tongues, they often use the same mumbled

phrases repeatedly and they do copy each other's techniques.

Without disputing the fact that there are people who can, the overwhelming majority of the people

out there do commit some of the gravest sins possible by sinning against the spirit of God by

claiming to hear, speak and see what they know nothing of.

It could be a repeat of the 10 plagues. They've already got the hail and storms with the typhoons.

Waiting for the locusts.