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Joagbaje:
[size=20pt]FINAL GBAM!!![/size]

I see my dear pastor is trying grab on to straws Don't worry there is still time to repent and turn around. I know Jesus loves you and you would be amongst the ones to be called on the last day but first you have to repent and starting preaching his word rightly divided.

@Tonye-t
I am really glad you can realize this and this as been my real grouse against christianity and not even tithes that we constantly argue about. To me most professing christians and churches are not following the core teachings of christ. I myself am not a saint neither can i claim to be following the gospel to the letter but i have made an effort o understand the true gospel and nature of christ and what i see amongst bethen today is really not encouraging. This shouldn't come as a suprise as Jesus as already predicted that my would come in his name yet h would deny them becos they do not do the will of his father, this many i beleive are most of the churches we see around today who are just paying lip service to the teachings of christ. i know it is really tough to be a christian[almost impractical], christianity is not about me me me or what material benefits you can get from it, it is more about what you can do for others. Christ teaches us to deny ourselves, it is about dedicating our lives towards better the lives of others and this should be done in a pure and genuine manner withour expectation of earthly rewards. The scriptures below sum up the christian concept of love nicely


1 Corinthians 13:1-13:

Love Is the Greatest

1 If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing. 3 If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.

4[b] Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud 5 or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. 6 It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. 7 Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.[/b]
8 Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever! 9 Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture! 10 But when full understanding comes, these partial things will become useless.

11 When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things. 12 Now we see things imperfectly as in a cloudy mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.

13 Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love—and the greatest of these is love.


1 John 4:7-21:

Loving One Another

7 Dear friends, let us continue to love one another, for love comes from God. Anyone who loves is a child of God and knows God. 8 But anyone who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

9 God showed how much he loved us by sending his one and only Son into the world so that we might have eternal life through him. 10 This is real love—not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to take away our sins.

11 Dear friends, since God loved us that much, we surely ought to love each other. 12 No one has ever seen God. But if we love each other, God lives in us, and his love is brought to full expression in us.

13 And God has given us his Spirit as proof that we live in him and he in us. 14 Furthermore, we have seen with our own eyes and now testify that the Father sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. 15 All who confess that Jesus is the Son of God have God living in them, and they live in God. 16 We know how much God loves us, and we have put our trust in his love.

God is love, and all who live in love live in God, and God lives in them. 17 And as we live in God, our love grows more perfect. So we will not be afraid on the day of judgment, but we can face him with confidence because we live like Jesus here in this world.

18 Such love has no fear, because perfect love expels all fear. If we are afraid, it is for fear of punishment, and this shows that we have not fully experienced his perfect love. 19 We love each other because he loved us first.

20 If someone says, “I love God,” but hates a brother or sister, that person is a liar; for if we don’t love people we can see, how can we love God, whom we cannot see? 21 And he has given us this command: Those who love God must also love their fellow men.

Yeah we are the gods of money and that is why we changed the tithes and first fruits God ordained in the bible for the levitical priesthood from agricultural produce into money for clergy today. It is only human to prefer our own creation[money] to that ordained[agricultural produce] by God.

[quote author=Tonye-t link=topic=399717.msg5530748#msg5530748 date=1266412173]@Poster,

I wonder if Christians today really practise this LOVE, rather what we find are pretense and imitations of LOVE.[/quote]Tonye, this is suprising coming from you! it means there is still hope for you or are you now born again? If you are not i strongly suggest you do and embrace the true gospel of christ which is entirely based on love.

Definitely not in most of the church institutions we have today however we still try have a few churches trying to show this examplary teaching of christ, TB Joshua's church synagogue comes to mind despite there is so much controversy sorrounding the church. Also a lot of missionary churches [mostly orthodox] still display this exemplary christian quality

@Topic
that is what christianity is all bout, it is a sine qua non for being a true christian. If you don't have it and give it uncondiionally to all people, you cannot possibly be a christian.

Chei, see what these criminals have turned christianity to

rotimy:
What we are doing here is part of the great commission! Part of that commission is to teach all men about Christ! Some know much of their Pastors words but not the words of Christ! They need instructions before jumping out to reach the world.

[size=24pt]GBAM AGAIN!!![/size] Pastor Joe i hope you are taking note!

Pastor agbaje, you don't get it do you? the truth is that i don't consider you or your ilks as christians no matter much you claim to be one, Jesus already warned us that many would come in his name but he would deny them becos they are workers of iniquity, he said not all that claim to be christians are christians, he also taught us that we shall know his followers by the fruits they display. Certainly the fruits being displayed by you, CEC plc and the whole prosperity gospel movement + word of faith charlatans is certainly not the fruits of christ, hence you are not true believers you just claim to be. Being doers of the word means to putinto practise the teachings of christ and NOT claiming prosperity like you are taught in your movement.

Matthew 24:4-14:

  4 Jesus told them, “Don’t let anyone mislead you, 5 for many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the annointed.’ They will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and threats of wars, but don’t panic. Yes, these things must take place, but the end won’t follow immediately. 7 Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. 8 But all this is only the first of the birth pains, with more to come.
  9 “Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and killed. You will be hated all over the world because you are my followers. 10 And many will turn away from me and betray and hate each other. 11 And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people. 12 Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come.

Pastor Agbaje i have now come to the understanding that you are not a true christian but an adherent of the word of faith movement which is totally and entirely different from true christianity even though they they excerpts from the bible to hoodwink theirgullible sheeple. As a result of that i would restrain from have christian discussions with you as i now realize we don't belong to the same faith. But i would continue to implore you to turn away from your evil ways and give your life to christ, i would also remeber you in my prayers that God would deliver you from the shackles of oyakhilome and bring you to the true understanding of his word.

Joagbaje:
Electric tasers are for security use . Did they say he used it on people in church? can you paste the link?. How would someone carry a gun looking device at the altar. Ha! alhaji !!!

Which kind f church would use electric tasers on their congregation as a form of security What actually are they securing? The illicit tithes and extorted offerings which they collected? why don't they rely on their "faith" to protect their loot? why use electric tasers?

karo93:
i will only respect a pastor when he follows the teachings of jesus to give out a coat when he has two,when he stops amassing wealth from offerings while the poor in the church are struggling to pay church dues,when he drops all that he has to follow jesus as jesus commanded for until then i know he is there for the money and fame

[size=20pt]GBAM!!![/size]

I see these prosperity merchants are not ready to give up their evil trade despite the weight of evidence in the scriptures against such. Yes we know their source of incomefilthy lucre is being threatened so they have to put up a fight. But what would it profit a man to gain the whole world and loose his soul   This is why some of us have decided to take the offensive against these merchants of death[propesrity pastors] and expose them for whom they are. initially i used to refrain from naming names but when their church members keep coming to this forum to idolize these same demons that are leading them to hell i knew the problem is more serious than initially perceived and all appearances of evil, evil itself and it's disciples must must be condenmed in very clear terms that aside these p.imps are getting bolder every day and inventing their own scriptures. There is no point anymore not mentioning names, let their adehrents know it is their leaders that are the false teachers the bible warned us about, not matter how smooth talking they are. As christians we can't afford to keep quiet any more less these demons lead more souls to their father in hell, we have to stand up and fight for the souls for our brethen and not allow these charlatans to lead them into mammon worship whilst fleecing them. These charlatans are also ridicling christianity whilst the whole world sees them as christian leaders, they must be exposed for what they are and they must stopping rubbishing and mocking true christianity.

joagbaje and mba emeka are very good examples of why we must continuosly fight to expose these mamon worshippers and wolves in sheep's clothing amongst us. These two have been so thoroughly brainwashed that despite all the clear cut teachings in the bible against their type of gospel they ignore these biblical teachings and look for scriptures which they can quote out of context and twist to deceive the simple minded most of whom never study the scriptures for themselves. In so doing they continue to lead innocent souls away from from the saving grace and true gospel of our lord Jesus Christ.

tachi:
well, what i have deduced for myself is that its all towards accountability. anyways, id simply say u should do as the spirit leads. as simple as that. if you have a disquiet about it, then u should heed it. and vice versa.

Now, as i said earlier, these are not based on any biblical standards(at least. none that i know of).

why should you be accountable to any pastor on the issue of a lady you want to approach

Can you imagine Ayo orisejafor, the president of the most corrupt and fraudulent sectof churches today condenming politicians for bening corrupt  i laugh in summuersaulting spiritual tongues Those that live in glass houses don't throw stones  Evidently from his submissions his doctrine is that of the devil himself and i am still yet to know why these demons continuosly condenm TB Joshua whose ministry is doing ten times more God's work than the whole of the churches under PFN Nigeria combined. The PFN is a total disgrace to the body of christ and they should not be considered as christians.

mba emeka:
@kunleoshob

I don’t think I have the time to start putting it out scripture upon scripture, precept upon precept line upon line for you. No offence man, but I think I’d be giving what is holy to dogs.

I thought you were catholic-you guys recite it in your creed….descended into hell, on the third day he rose again, he ascended into heaven and sitteth at the right of God the father almighty…… Maybe you’re not even a Christian posing as one, lifting scriptures out of place and making doctrines of it. The best theologian I know is Satan, yet his still a devil. It is not enough to have the word in your head let it get to heart/ spirit.

I didn’t intend on making this post this long, I tried to stop but I couldn’t. I guess if you take your time to read it you’d get the point I’m trying to make. Bless you!

For all intent and purpose i am not catholic even though i respect them a lot more than your deluded/ criminal pentecostal movement that are more interested in people's money than the gospel of Christ. That apart since when did the catholic creed become doctrine in the christian faith. I already pointed out the fallacies of your illeterate and dubiuos pastor, instead of you to address the issues you are busy creating diversions. You better repent and leave that mamon church before pastor chris leads you to his masters in hell. Remember Jesus said even the very elect[chosen ones] would almost be deceived, how much less the the mis-guided elements that form the core of CEC plc congregation. So forget all the smooth talk of Oyaks, it's all prt of the scam. It's called packaging

Deep Sight:
I repeat -

According to judaic christian myths -

1. God made man unclothed

2. Man was innocent

3. Man sinned

4. Man became guilty

5. Man, once guilty, required clothes.

Conclusion: unclothedness is purity. Wearing clothes is synonymous with evil.

I can accordingly deduce that one is closer to holiness when in a strip club than one is within a church or mosque.

Deepsight, you don dey kolo why don't you demonstrate this your idea of "holiness" by starting to move around butt naked? i can assure you you would get n instant space in the VIP section of Aro.

4 Play:
Nigerians are very embarrassing. Hope foreigners don't see this headline. GIP is not Bayo's company but a subsidiary of Credit Suisse and GE.

It's good, however, to see very successful Nigerians and not the constant stream of appalling news about Nigerians. He's done well for himself. He was a bit of a dissapointment as head of Global IB at Credit Suisse but you can't win all the time.

I just checked out the website of GIP and you are correct Bayo Ogunlesi does not own GIP it is owned by General Electric and Credit suisse whilst Bayo Ogunlesi is the chairman and Managing Partner of the company. It is still impressive though that a Nigerian is being allowed to head such a big company in a foreign land.

bawomolo:
from which money, our never ending church building fund?
so kunle sef na jealousy jealousy ole pastor

I am definitely NOT a pastor talkless of a thieving one . Call me a preacher and i might accept but definitely not a pastor.

mba emeka:
Jesus was a prosperous man, while on earth. He didn’t need to have all the money in the world to do some of the things he did. He was totally unaware of lack. He had no consciousness of it whatsoever. He fed multitudes, he paid his taxes, he healed the sick. Then he died on the cross for the whole world, descended into hell, defeated the forces of evil, rose again in his glory and said to us Go with all the authority I have, all the authority in heaven and in earth and tell the world I did this for them. Did what for them? That should be the real question.

The highlighted above is doctrine from the very darkest pits of hell were it was fed to the demons perpetuating this grave heresy. Jesus never went to hell. This false teaching is another very strong evidence that your pastor is not of God neither does he have the Holy spirit within him, that aprt it is also evidence that he is a poorly trained preacher else he would not be preaching doctrine based on a glaring mis-interpretation of the KJV that any apsiring bible studen should know. The original greek word for the word used as hell in that passage is "hades" which means "grave" or "land of the dead" and certainly NOT hell the way we understand it today talkless of unbiblical fighting and defeating the forces of evil there that your illeterate pastor added to it. If in doubt go and read that passage of going to "hell" from other translation of the bible or get a bible concordance to find out the proper interpretation. Whilst you are it, i suggest you also tell your pastor to go and attend a decent seminary were he can properly learn to read and understand the bible properly instead of forcing his shallow ill informed and fraudulent opinions into it

Recardo:
Well congrats to Pastor Jo.
But he is nowhere to be found.


But SERIOUSLY why would the admin put this on the front page? is it to ridicule christianity?

It does not in anyway ridicle christianity however it ridicles man mad doctrines that have been smuggled into christian "worship" and presented as the word of God. True christianity is defined by the bible as thus:

True and undefiled religion[worship] in the sight of God the father is to take care of the orphan and widow[needy] in their affliction and to keep your self uncorrupted by the world. James 1:27

I can asure you that 95% of churches don't view or practise christianity as defined above, in other wards they are practising false christianity ad that is what i being ridicled here.

Honestly i believe this achievement is really commendable, it shows Nigerians have the potential to rule the world. But we also need more investments back home, i believe he can achieve better returns on his investment in naija even though our economy is so unpredictable and no worhtwhile financial institution might be willing to finance an investmment in naija.  

GODSON2009:
ask any redeemed member to tell u the time pastor adeboye prophecised at redemption camp some years ago that GOD told him that if everybody in that holy ghost service should die that day,only 5 or 11 people will make heaven

If Pasor Adeboye actually said that, then itwould be a big time indictment on himself as the head of the church and the church itself. It means they are running a failed project and NOT leading people to salvation as some of us have always suspected despite all the billions they collect in tithes and offerings every month.

Na i don't think any body gets hurt, it's a well ochestrated drama!

bodsibobo:
Aaww, c'mon! This is too watery. I expected a much tougher response more than this. So you're not even convinced and convicted of what you profess. My brother, you better take things easy. Insulting God and Man ( Whether they be 'Men of God' or 'Men of Gawd' or any man whosoever) has never been a sign of civility.

May God bless you.

Sorry my brother my conviction in what i profess is purely based on the teachings of christ and it is unshaken, it is also totally different from what these so called men of God profess as they willfully twist scriptures to suit their selfish agendas. Unlike most "christian" who just follow their pastor and believe the pastor is infallible, i study the word and have no problems with pointing out what is wrong with the man made version of the christian faith as opposed to the one based on the teachings of christ himself. When Jesus was with us on this earth he was always at loggerheads with religious leaders[pharisees] of his time cos they twisted scripture to favour themselves and made life difficult for people by introducing their own commandments as God's word. Today our religious leaders are worse than the pharisees Jesus condenmed, so i have no problems ridicling the heresies they preach as the word from God. As a christian you shouldn't feel comfortable or condone the wolves in sheep's clothing amongst us.

Honestly the world should watch out for us Nigerians are coming, Nigerains have what it takes to rule the world if only we have sensible leaders

Adebayo Ogunlesi, 56, is the chairman and managing partner, Global Infrastructure Partners (GIP), an independent investment fund based in New York City with worldwide stake in infrastructure assets, has been reported to be the new owner of the London Gatwick Airport.
The son of an 86-year old professor of medicine has presided over a great number of sweet deals that made him the envy of his peers abroad even if his forays into the brisk world multi-billion dollars deals are barely talked about in his home country.



Ogunlesi's latest deal is the much talked about acquisition of the London Gatwick Airport. The Gatwick deal is a £1.455 billion agreement with BAA Airports Limited. GIP will be investing through Ivy Bidco Limited, a limited liability company registered in England, established for the purpose of making the acquisition. Bidco will pay cash consideration of £1,455 million for the entire share capital of Gatwick Airport Limited on a cash-free, debt-free basis. Ogunlesi says the acquisition of Gatwick is a landmark deal for GIP and adds another quality asset to his firm's rapidly expanding portfolio.

According to him, "we see significant scope to apply both our strong operational focus and our knowledge of the airports sector to make Gatwick an airport of choice." He began stacking up his big deals profile when he joined the top-shelf New York law firm, Cravath, Swain & Moore. It was at the law firm that he jumped at the chance to advise First Boston (which later acquired Credit Suisse in 1997 to form Credit Suisse First Boston or CSFB) on a hugely lucrative Nigerian gas project. The success of that deal landed him his first big pay move to First Boston. For First Boston, he worked on project finance, brokering deals in which lenders finance assets like oil refineries and mines and are repaid with revenues generated by those enterprises. Based in New York City and traveling to emerging markets, he built CSFB's project-finance business into the world's best, in part by encouraging corporations and overnments to tap public debt markets in addition to
commercial lenders.

His teacher while at King's College, Lagos, J Namme told Business Day that Bayo, as he is fondly called, loves getting things done. Perhaps, the London Gatwick Airport acquisition best underscores his desire to get things done and in the big way too. The Gatwick deal illustrates his global influence in infrastructure assets deals.

Ogunlesi has lived in New York for 20 years and is active in volunteer work. But he also cultivates his ties to Africa. He informally advises the Nigerian government on privatisation. And last summer Manute Bol, the 7-ft. 7-in. Former NBA center, visited Ogunlesi in his Park Avenue office, seeking donations for a charitable foundation in former basketball star Manute Bol's homeland, Sudan.

The 5-ft. 9-in. Ogunlesi walked Bol around the hallways, introducing him to junior staff. It was just another day in the Bayosphere. Prior to his current role, he was executive vice chairman and chief client officer of Credit Suisse, based in New York. He previously served as a member of Credit Suisse's Executive Board and Management Council and chaired the Chairman's Board. Previously, he was the Global Head of Investment Banking at Credit Suisse. Since joining Credit Suisse in 1983, Ogunlesi has advised clients on strategic transactions and financings in a broad range of industries and has worked on transactions in North and South America, the Caribbean, Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Asia.

Ogunlesi attended the prestigious King's College, Lagos. He is a member of the District of Columbia Bar Association. He was a lecturer at Harvard Law School and the Yale School.

Ogunlesi, whose father was the first Nigerian-born medical professor, studied philosophy, politics and economics at Oxford and then earned law and business degrees from Harvard. In the US, he is known as the Nigerian who clerked for late Supreme Court justice, Thurgood Marshall, who they say was unable to pronounce his name and quickly dubbed him Obeedoogee. Colleagues and friends call him Bayo.

source : http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=51718039

Obviously a lot of of people who are posting on this thread are not privy to the background to it so i would just ignore their daft comments. That apart a lot of people might feel offended that i ridiculed a lot of "church" doctrines here, i have no aplogies either cos the doctrines i ridicled are man made doctrines that have been twisted and presented as the word of God. If the clergy had been upright and going about it's calling based on the true and undiluted bible based teachings the issue of ridicling these false teachings would not even arise. It would also serve to make other christians realize that these are false and ridiculous teachings being perpetuatd by men for their own selfish reasons and not necessarily the word of God. How many of these pastors genuinely use these church collections to do God's work? and what exactly is God's work? i know it is definitely not building churches up and down or spreading the brand name of a particular church franchise, it is more of helping the poor and the needy and very few churches actually engage in this. And to those who fret any time they hear the word pastor mentioned, my question is this who annointed those men as pastors and how do you know they are genuine? There is only one biblically recommended way and that is by the fruits they exhibit. so if any man who claims to be a pastor is exhibiting fruits contrary to what was taught by Jesus i can feel free to ridicle such a person or doctrine knowing fully well that such a person is not known to christ. Jesus himself said that "not all that call him lord [even those who do miracles in his name] shall enter the kingdom of God but only those who do the will of the father.

@efosanice
Evidently you know very little about what tithes is all about and what the bible really says about it thus you depend on pulpit intepretation of the most abuse passage [malachi 3:8-10] in the bible. I suggest you read this this thread form the beginning and search for other topics on tithing on this forum before you start blabbing as if you have a clue about what tithing really is. Have you read the sricpture i gave you? Read it for a start then you can start asking questions as you obvioulsy have very little to contribute as far as tithing knowledge is concerned.

PS: tithing is one of the most hotly and thoroughly debated topics on this forum, so don't come and start brandishingf that over recycled malachi passage here, it as been thoroughly debated and discarded as irrelevant on this forum. If you need to know more just ask, i am sure there would be more than enough people on this forum willing to show you biblically that tithing is not a christian requirement and the typeof tithing being practised today is a fraudulent man made doctrine.

efosanice:
@folly24
i understand what you mean.

My position is that tithing is not a christian requirement as taught by christ and the apostles and that tithing was only introduced into christianity much later by the catholic church through the twisting of Malachi 3:10 which was directed at the Jewish people who were under the levitical laws of that time. Christians are not under levitical laws neither do we practise the levitical priesthood so tithing is not relevant to christianity. That aside the tithing practised today has no sound biblical basis, it is a twisted version of biblical tithing that is why i gave you that deuteronomy passage to read.

jagunlabi:
Please, anybody who wants to get a slice of the national divine cake should, henceforth, follow the pator's example and state their claim with the backing of an appropriate scriptural quote.No scripture quote, no consideration for any post.If you are of the islamic faith, please, you are not welcome, unless you can also quote from the bible and have made the right decision to convert, not only to christianity, but exclusively to pastor agbaje's church.The submission from any member of any other church will not be considered.
Thank you.

In addition to the above any aspiring member who is not up to date in their tithes and first fruit would definitely not be welcome   thjose who have consistently sowed seeds in addition to their up to date tithing and first fruit would be highly favoured. For those of you who are not up to date you would need to make special sacrificial offerings and sow a very big seed   it is only then that you would be considered for any position in our propoed ministry. I would supply my account details shortly were you can pay all your outstanding tithes, first fruits and seed sowing.

mabell:
yes! Jehova's witnesses AND YOU ARE ONE OF HIS PERSONAL FOLLOWERS

I am certainly not a jehovah witness even though i believe they are closer to the true gospel of christ than you deluded pentecostal folks. If you really want to know i am non-denominational and i derive my doctrine directly from the teachings of Jesus himself in the bible and the works of his apostles. I don't accept obsolete jewish teachings borrowed and twisted from Judaism such as tithing as part of true christian doctrine. All true christians should learn to focus more on christ and less on their churches/pastors many of whom might not be emphasizing the core teachings of christ and the true way to salvation.

@efosanice
Kindly state one scripture quoted in it's proper context that christians are taught to tithe and i don't mean scriptures directed to the jewish people in the old testament who were practising a totally seperate religion from christianity. That aside how come the false version of tithing practised today has no semblance with the biblical version as practised and defined in the bible? You may want to check deuteronomy 14:22-29 to find out how tithes is defined and practised as instructed by God contrary to the fraudulent version preached today

Joagbaje:
I don't know what you mean by "prosperity gospel" But if I go with how it sounds , it means " The good news of prosperity". Prosperity is not about money. Money is only a part , Jesus died to make us allround success. You are the one that make it sound as though it's all about money. He died for us to be in health , to reign over sin , over devils, over poverty, failiure etc . Why do you want to take wealth out of it?

DEUT 8:18
But remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your forefathers, as it is today.

Sir, could you post a shred of evidence from the teachings of Jesus himself that earthly material possessions or money was a part of his gospel it won't do to post an irrevlevant scripture from the obsolete Levitical laws in deuteronomy and use it to prove what the gospel of christ was about. That is scriptural manipulation at it's cheapest. Also show us clear cut teachings by the apostles that believers would be rich. That aside if this were to be true how come there is no significant difference in the wealth of non believers than believers? Infact i would wagger that non believers are far wealthier than believers in this country and even so called pastors who claim to be rich and preach this false gospel derive their wealth from fleecing the flock whichis obvious and not any divine blessings as they would like us to believe