₦airaland Forum

@Kola Oloye
I know I sounded abusive, but I had to express my pain and anger at the extent a supposed and well respected man of god has gone to butcher the very same word of god for reasons which are obviously and glaringly greed. I felt pained becos Adeboye was one pastor I felt was genuine, I have since known he is not any better than others using God's name to feed their greed but the antics and new fleecing strategy he introduced in the OP really ticked me off and it has all the trappings of a very fraudulent and greedy character. This fraud I believe must be condenmed in it's totallity and exposed less more people continue to fall for the scam and it becomes indoctrinated in pentecostalism the way tithing became doctrine.

@biina
I was also tempted to make an excuse for Adeboye by trying to suggest that maybe someone wrote it on his behalf, but upon review of the "open heavens" devotional it was glaring that Adeboye wrote it himself as it is highly personalized with lots of examples from Adeboye's personal life experience.

toba:
May be u need to check your writing skill. How would i have known that u failed to go for ordination? it wasnt stated in your initial post which is this


The key word is 'quitting' which could connote not completing your course virtually. You now saying u graduated and didnt go for ordination is completely different from what can be deduced from your post

Well its not new that many of the so called men of God are not real men of God. But U could av been the change, if u could have just hanged on.

It is virtually impossible to change the system as the vested interests are to great and the love for filthy lucre is entrenched, the best any one can do is to go and start his own "church" but that would not solvethe problem as they all eventually derail. It would take the physical return of christ for their to be any change and that return could be much sooner than expected.

It's quite instructive that none of the numerous RCCG members on this forum as been able to come out and defend the scrilegeous/dubious wrttings of their G.O, perhaps they are not as badly brainwashed as the zombies in CEC, if it was a post against that notorious con man that goesby the name Oyakhilome all hell would have broken loose on this forum by now as they would be trying to out do themselves in defense of the criminal.

This thread would soon attract a lot of daft and stupid comments from his customers members in defense of his obviously dubious and fraudulent tactics. Bunch of thoroughly brainwashed dimwits

Pentecostal churches are not motivated by the desire to spread the gospel of christ but by personal aggrandizment the prospects of bountiful financial gain.

@ toba
Go and read the whole of matthew 23 if you really want to know what Jesus thinks of religious leaders! After that you can come back and let's discuss the teachings of christ on the subject.

Is joagbaje, mabell as well

I am really enjoying this thread

@enigma
Keep up the good work, these heretics should not be allowed to get away with their satanic "gospel"

Dissolution of FEC is goodnews.

@dinngle
The fact that Nigerian customs service decided to frustrate the Tinapa project [probabaly for political reasons] and Donald's successor Liyel Imoke is too imcompetent to follow up does not take credit away from Donald Duke, his achievements in Cross river are lengendary and Tinapa is just one of the numerous achievements. Even at that it is just a matter of time Tinapa is still going to boom you can't stop an idea whose time as come you can only slow it down. Studio tinapa would soon be open for business the whole of Nollywood film productions, commercial adverts and documentaries would soon be done there that a lone promises to pull thousands of patrons to Tinapa on a monthly basis.

noetic16:
1. I was tempted to think that u had abandoned the forum . . . .I was going to set up a search party. . .lol. nice to see u around.
please dont stop your exposure on false doctrines regardless of the perceived persecution.

2. One lesson to learn from your last exchange with viaro is that our differences are limited to issues and not personality. you would be surprised as to how many people who have openly antagonised u, are giving a second thought to your arguments.

3. Nairaland is not for egoic debates but for education, enlightenment and information. . . u had be surprised as to how much I have learnt from this forum.

Thanx my brother, i haven't abandoned the forum but i seem to post less these days as i really want to avoid getting into unhealthy arguments with those that are hell bent on twisting the scriptures but i am consolated in the fact that there are a lot of brethen in this forum who know and understand the bible and the gospel of Jesus christ better than myself seriously contending for the truth and fighting for the faith. it is now more difficult for someone to get away with twisted scripture on this forum than when i first joined three years ago when people twisted the scriptures endlessly on this forum and got away with it. But i must say nairaland as been a tremendous learning experience for me and i believe also for most of us on this forum. I pray that God would continually reveal his truth to us and we all as christians would not only be hearers of the word but doers as well.

@viaro
For the past couple of months, i see you have changed your tone on this issue of tithes, you are welcome to this side of the divide. I also applaud your courage to stand for the truth as far as christian giving is concerned. 

thank God, that move was long overdue i sincerely hopes he has the presence of mind to appoint credible people to replacee the morons he just sacked! next step is to ensure credible electoral reforms and stable power supply.

@Post
Apart from the fact that it is obviously a false and mis-directed testimony [giving glory to a con man instead of Jesus] it is far more evident that a lot of people have lost their lives to Pastor chris scams through deceiving a lot of people into believing they are been healed and they "exercise" their faith by stopping their life saving medications.

@dinngle
What is the basis of all the ignorance you just displayed above? You call PDP a failed party yet it is by far the most successful party in Nigeria[even if it is by crook] that aside did Donald duke say he would contest on the platform of PDP? or is he restricted to PDP to contest. On his performance and track record, i doubt if any Governor in Nigeria has achieved as much as this man given the very limited resources he had to work with [Fashola probably has 20 times more resources than he did] His records speak volumes for him and his achievements are legendary you only have to do some littles research to find out. Honestly my heart weeps for Nigeria becos of ignorant people like you, how would we progress as a country if we don't rally round to support our tested and proven leaders who have shown sincerity and ability to lead us to becoming a great nation.

Tithes in the RCCG high command is taken very seriously, they actually have auditors they send to their branches and franchise holders to ensure that all tithes collected are well accounted for and fully remitted to the head office. This is obviously becos there is no trust amongst them. [Even amongst thieves there is honour] but not in the case of RCCG. Their cup would soon be full, a racket can't last forever.

Redeemed operates a business structure that demands 100% of tithes must be remitted to the head office. I guess that's what they charge for allowing you to use their strong brand name to fleece the flock.

;d ;d ;d

@Deepsight
I entirely agree with you that there should be nothing illogical about religious beliefs, however has it occured to you that a lot of things were and are still beyond human comprehension? Uptil today there are still many un answered questions pertaining to our physical univeerse how much less the spiritual. The plain truth is that a lot of things are beyond human comprehension hence the need for people to just accept things by faith as explaining the intricacies or logicality of the issues under reference.

mbulela:
on a final note, i am disappointed that he is touring USA and facebook.The impact of the internet and the diaspora are hugely exagerrated in the Nigerian scenario.i agree completely with the analogy of Fashola and Agbaje that was drawn earlier.
He who controls the grassroots has won half of the battle. i expect Duke to stop sipping champagne with folks in the diaspora and ro;; up his sleeves and start funding market women association programs, August meetings in the South East and music carnivals in uni and polytechnics around the country. align himself with NURTW and NLC.

His touring of the USA is strategic to his campaign strategy, as you know he has huge followership amongst the elightened Nigerians most of whom are outside the shores of this country that aside he has to raise campaign funds for him to be able to execute a very effective campaign, Nigerians in disapora would come in very handy in raising these funds.

@mikeansy
I like your spirit and your ideas are brilliant, i hope you have joind the Duke fan club on facebook there is a disscusion board their where you can make your ideas and suggestions known to those that matter in the build up to his campaign. I gather he would soon be making a public declaration of his presidential ambition and the campaign would kick off from there.

@Akanbi
The points you raised concerning reaching out to the grass roots is very valid. I am sure the Duke Campaign Organization would take them into consideration when mapping out their campaign strategies.

@Akanbi
Just do your part, spread the Donald Duke gospel and vote for him and let's see what happens. Even if he doesn't win he would give the Nigerian youth a voice and change the power equation in this country.

@Redsun
Donald Duke is capable of initiating and willing to implement that paradigm shift needed to move this country forward.

@Akanbi
People gave Obama a less chance when he first declared for presidency, the rest is history. What you fail to realize is that the world is fast changing. Watch out for the Donald Duke campaign Tsunami, it would surely sweep you and other doubting thomases over

@joagbaje
Why do you doubt afterall it is a well known fact that pastor chris is notorious for spewing out heretic lies.

@ndu_chucks
Duke is yet to declare for another party even though it is likely he does so very soon. He is currently making consultations and is yet to officially declare his presidential ambition even though the hand writing has been clearly written on the wall. I expects he makes his declaration known in the weeks ahead on the platform of another party, PDP is about to implode it would surely destroy it self.

Joagbaje:
A pastor may reject money given to him from questionable source if he is uncomfortable with it.but if it an offering to God in Church he has no right to tell a man not to give to God, It is between whoever and God.

So this is the latest lie pastors have come up with to accept stolen money from criminals even when the bible makes it clear that God doesn't need our moneyand human hands cannot serve his needs.

Acts 17:24-25:

24 “He is the God who made the world and everything in it. Since he is Lord of heaven and earth, he doesn’t live in man-made temples, 25 and human hands can’t serve his needs—for he has no needs. He himself gives life and breath to everything, and he satisfies every need.

Fhemmmy:
Give us enuf reasons why we should vote for him

His achievements in Cross rivers state speaks volumes of him, the man is a reall visionary and he has the passion and the desire to see Nigeria become a great country.

Gekko:
Just don't think he has the political muscle to lift a country like Nigeria.  And to be realistic, since there is no formidable voice of opposition to PDP in the country our prospects are limited to a northerner.
So i am praying for a miracle at this point.

Nobody thought Obama had the political muscle or clout to win the U.S presidential election yet he won in a land slide manner. The truth is that Donald has what it takes that apart i beleive the PDP is going to be heavily fractured towards 2011 elections with no strong man to rally the party round like in the OBJ days and the acting president being undermined by party Governors. This unconstituitional power rotation clause in the PDP would be their greatest undoing, i forsee Jonathan organizing a free and fair election next year now that he has been check mated. It would be very difficult for the PDP to win in a free and fair election next year especially if quality candidates like Donald Duke are fielded.