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I like
1. All PHB ads (cars will drive themselves, cars will run on water, the impossible slam dunk and the volume control babe)
2. Malta Guiness (your mother!)
3. FCMB (Abasi ayaya)
4. Omo ( its not dirt)
5. Cussons (my bum bum is itchy)
, also Vicks lemon plus (wont tell why)

I hate
1. Harpic ( She actually calls it 'apic)
2. Ariel (recycled rubish)
3. Hollandia Milk (a disgrace to classical singing)
4. Dansa (even worse than hollandia)
5. Flucor day (what nonesense)
, also Guiness (i dont know why. maybe because i prefer the older)

Just saw an interview on CNN showing the archaeologist who discovered the controversial tomb in 1980. According to him, its absolutely impossible for the tomb to be that of Jesus or his family.

@Seun

syrup:
Revelation 9:16
'And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.'

That's 200,000,000 - which is by far more than 144,000 by a difference of 199,856,000.

Oops! there goes your theory.

@Gold
You run away?

@Syrup
Very Impressive. The calm and composure with which you have outlined your (and every true Christians) position is quite amazing. When i see someone like you competently doing justice to the issue, i just love to sit and learn. God Bless.

These muslims na wa for them. Grabing at straws to authenticate their prophet and his book. Why look to the bible? i thought you guys believe the bible has been tampered with. even a dim wit can see how impossible it is for deuteronomy 18 to be a reference to mohammed.

ah ah Fadenike, you didnt answer TV01's questions.

@Gold
Yours is an interesting theory. can you please expound on this?

Got this write up via email. What d'yall think?


A President And His Ambitious Daughter
By Sam Nda-Isaiah

Earshot


No, Mr. President, You Don't Have Such Powers,

Last week, a list purported to be from the EFCC containing names of those who should not be allowed to contest elections was released to the press. But for those who know better, that list is more the president's list than EFCC's list. If not, how is it possible that Adebayo Alao-Akala's name is missing in the list after Nuhu Ribadu had, barely a week ago, openly called him a thief? How on earth will names like Senator Ibrahim Mantu be missing when the FCT minister, Nasiru el-Rufai, has incontrovertibly proven that he demanded bribes from him in 2003 and the entire world knows he was involved in sharing third term bribes? Why should Gov. Agagu's name be missing? But what is interesting about the list is that it looks more like a roll call of the president's enemy list: Gov. Bola Tinubu, Orji Kalu, Lanre Tejuoso, Ahmed Aruwa, etc all made the list. The only Action Congress governor, and all ANPP serving governors, except of course Gov. Adamu Aliero who recently decamped to the PDP, are listed.

A serving governor like Ali Modu Sheriff was accused of buying thousands of motorcycles for himself when everyone in the state knows that the motorcycles are meant to be distributed to civil servants. The governor had even announced that they would be distributed in the coming days. Tinubu's crime is that he has consistently stopped the president from rigging elections in Lagos. Former Governor Chris Ngige's name was there but not those that kidnapped him. But Obasanjo needs to know that the 1999 constitution, which is still subsisting, is a federal constitution and not a unitary constitution. He or any of his agencies cannot stop anyone from any other party from contesting. His party can decide whom to field as candidates, but they can't do that for other parties. In fact, only a court or a State House of Assembly can stop a serving governor from contesting for any office.
No, Mr. President, you don't have the power to disqualify anyone.

A President And His Ambitious Daughter

For about a year now, the president's kids have graced the front pages of Nigeria's newspapers, and for all the wrong reasons for that matter. Since the First Republic of Sir Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, there has been no president that allowed the intrusion into our lives by his children like President Obasanjo. Not even General Abacha's children who till date are still haunted by the president. It is either some of them are accompanying a presidential aspirant to pick up presidential nomination forms, or some of them actually picking Goodluck Jonathan as the PDP vice presidential candidate in return for some favours.

Abacha's children may have been involved in multibillion naira businesses, but none of them dared nominate a presidential or vice presidential candidate in the days of their father. And even in big business, the president's children are not doing badly at all, as they can match the Abacha kids dollar for dollar, pound for pound and yen for yen. It is either they own oil blocks as partners in some businesses, or they are purchasing high-profile properties in the United States or they are "helping" to bring Virgin into Nigeria. Unlike their father, these presidential kids know that time is against them and they, therefore, must make hay while the sun shines.

But today, I am particularly concerned about Dr Iyabo Obasanjo, the president's politician eldest daughter. She became a commissioner in Governor Gbenga Daniel's government in 2003 by the grace of her father. Gov. Daniel saw the appointment of Iyabo as commissioner as a fitting appreciation to the man who rigged him into the Ogun State Governor's Lodge. It was after this that Iyabo started seeing herself as somewhat invincible. Suddenly she started visualising herself as a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. If her father, with whom she has a striking resemblance, could make someone else who didn't win his senatorial election the Senate president, how easy it would be to make his own daughter a senator. And If he zones the Senate presidency to the South West, then, she could in fact become Nigeria's next No. 3, the Senate president. It doesn't matter that he had zoned the chairmanship of the board of trustees of his party to himself permanently. As First Daughter, Iyabo has sneaked into a few Federal Executive Council (FEC) meetings just to have a feel of power. Nothing qualifies her to sit in a FEC meeting. Abacha's kids didn't go that far.

While nurturing her senatorial ambition, rumours started making the rounds that Fola Adeola, the founder and moving spirit behind the very highly successful Guaranty Trust Bank, was making moves to contest the same senatorial seat with her. Suddenly, Iyabo lost her balance and started talking like someone with a high fever. In an interview she granted the Daily Sun sometime last year, she said (in reference to Fola) that nobody could take the Senate seat from her. She said she was the one that worked so hard for the office and therefore the only one that would get it. She spoke throughout the interview in a threatening language that was meant to send a message to Fola. She spoke like a spoilt brat baby about to be deprived of a valued toy. One thing led to the other and, before anyone knew it, the president had sacked Fola as the group managing director of Transcorp and the chairman of Pensions Commission of Nigeria (PenCom). Unfortunately, that was all that was required to frighten the former Guaranty Trust Bank boss out of the senatorial race.

Of course, Iyabo got the PDP ticket easily, on her way to becoming the Senate president since her father had zoned the office to her and there was no chance that her name would ever appear on any EFCC list, and even if it did, like the case of Gov. Segun Agagu, Senator Ibrahim Mantu, and others in Baba's favour books, the president would have quickly expunged it. All her opponents were politely advised to step down for her. In any case, every aspirant no matter how qualified or ambitious kept off the Ogun Central senatorial seat anyway. It is rude to want an office coveted by the First Daughter.

But one stubborn man refused to step down. He is Lanre Tejuoso, the urbane prince of Egbaland, who considers himself more thoroughbred than Iyabo. Tejuoso is the ANPP senatorial candidate for Ogun Central, the same seat that Iyabo wants, but the prince is more popular than her. About a fortnight ago, some guests paid an unscheduled visit to the hotel he was staying in Abeokuta. They bore automatic rifles and they introduced themselves as assassins. They spoke the Yoruba language throughout. In fright, he offered them the N2 million cash that was with him, mistaking them for armed robbers. They told the candidate that they were not armed robbers and that they belonged to the nobler profession of assassins. Nonetheless, they took N200,000 out of the money, shot him in the head and left him for dead. But as I said, this Tejuoso is very stubborn. Just like he refused to step down when every other person was stepping down with their tails between their legs, he has also stubbornly refused to die. He is currently overseas undergoing treatment, where he remains till date instead of campaigning. Obviously, his adversaries are not happy he has cheated death, so his name found its way into the EFCC list of discredited candidates. And one wonders why, since the prince has never worked in the public sector within Nigeria and is not even a government contractor. He earns his money outside Nigeria and he has never been found wanting by any government.

I am not fingering anyone as responsible for the attempted assassination but it is obvious that it is that "nest of killers within the ruling party", as asserted by Wole Soyinka that is responsible. It is the same nest of killers that killed Marshal Harry, Bola Ige, Aminasoari Dikibo, and possibly Funso Williams that now desires to eliminate Tejuoso. And as we all know, none of these deaths has been resolved; and for Tejuoso, I am not even sure anyone is currently investigating the assassination attempt.

The president might have successfully rigged the 2003 elections, but this year he faces the greatest rigging challenge of his life. He might just be about finding out that famous grit and resilience that the Nigerian is known for!

See in April 2007

I am really enjoying the atmosphere in which this debate is being conducted. wish all debates on nairaland could go like this. Thumbs up to TV01 and Analytical (also Mrpataki and 4get_me). And the tennis baseline of the debate keeps everything calm (after all its just a game). Luv u guys.

What all these pro-mother of God people do (sorry, jare babaearly) is to scream out what they have been told. Will any of y'all pro - mother of God guys please read the bible and bring out any biblical foundation for the Mother of God theory?

what exactly on the Thread freaks you out?

Amby:
Jesus Christ is God and hence Mary is the mother of God.

Am not arguing with you but am only letting you know the truth I have known about the mediatrix power of Mary in ensuring that all her children (christians) are not lost but have grace enormous to follow the teachings of her son, Jesus Christ and overcome the world.

How can someone who proffeses her belief in God and His word also believe something that is absolutely against his word? how can Jesus Christ be called the only mediator in 1 Tim 2:15 and then mary also be a mediator? why are you calling God a liar? making Him say two opposing statements from two sides of His mouth? Do you Think God is confused? or You think some parts of the bible have been put away? Nothing contrary to the bible can be from God.

na wa. i laff tire yesterday at the office. wow!!! so much crazy fun. who gave some of those guys the nerve (liver, audacity, take your pick) to attempt idols. lawd have mercy! enuff raga and galala. wish simon ( from the american version) was here. but the judges are ok including dede (playing the simon part). heard some really good performances sha. if the lagos auditions were this good (and hilarious), cant wait to see the others.

BTW what was lara (from kush) doin there? she IS a recording artiste. a proffesional. thot idols was supposed to bring out new talents. haba. its like having somebody from destiny's child on idols. i beg somebody tell her say she don big pass this level. make she leave am for fresh voices. At least she don go yankee go sing before.

all in all sha so much fun.

I just came accross this on the net and i think it will drop some questions on those who doubt that Jesus Christ is who He said he is. Enjoy.

In discussing his apologetic method, C. S. Lewis once stated that he usually found the aut Deus aut malus homo quite useful in demonstrating the validity of Christ's claims.1 The argument, which is summed up in this Latin phrase ("Either God or a bad man", points out that, if Christ's claims were false, then he could not have been a good man, since he thought of Himself as God. This "liar, lunatic, or Lord" argument was summarized by Lewis in one of his most widely quoted passages:

I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don't accept His claim to be God." That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic--on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg--or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronising nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.2

Elsewhere, C. S. Lewis has stated that if Christ's claims for Himself are not true, then they are "those of a megalomaniac, compared with whom Hitler was the most sane and humble of men." He continued:

There is no half-way house and there is no parallel in other religions. If you had gone to Buddha and asked Him, "Are you the son of Bramah?" he would have said, "My son, you are still in the vale of illusion." If you had gone to Socrates and asked, "Are you Zeus?" he would have laughed at you. If you had gone to Mohammed and asked, "are you Allah?" he would first have rent his clothes and then cut you head off. If you had asked Confucius, "Are you Heaven?", I think he would have probably replied, "Remarks which are not in accordance with nature are in bad taste." The idea of a great moral teacher saying what Christ said is out of the question.3

Benjamin Franklin, who was a Deist who did not believe in the divinity of Christ, wrote in his Resolution on Humility that one should "Imitate Jesus and Socrates." It is interesting that, throughout all of history, Jesus has been considered a model of humility. Yet, if He was not whom He claimed to be, then He was the very opposite of humble. William Lyon Phelps has written:

Either his assumption of authority came from his union with God, or he was the most conceited of human beings. Modesty is one of the finest manly attributes; a man cannot be perfect, cannot even be called very good, who lacks modesty, who takes Himself too seriously. If Jesus were only a man, he lacked one of the cardinal virtues and was marked by a fault peculiarly offensive. But the angels and the shepherds and the wise men who celebrated the first Christmas, they knew who he was. Kneeling before the manger at Bethlehem they worshipped the Divine Saviour.

TV01:
Let's try multiple choice (in an open book examination) shall we?

1. God
2. The devil
3. Them (Those)
4. Pastor Chris
5. All of the Above
6. Nobody

7. Some of the above

TV01:
Au contraire mon frere,

Somebody! Anybody!! Gift of the interpretation of tongues pleeeeeeassssssssssssse

i thought this thread was over

@KDK thought you left nairaland. welcome back bro

phew

everything macalurs has said is sooo true. for me, cold water affects my voice a lot. (Just cant seem to stop though). singers should be very conscious of what they eat and drink and also the environment. A/C affects me for example. You can also try breath control exercises. Take a vocalist you like and score all their songs and see how u sound like.

Some women call their husbands 'my oga' when talking about him to a third party - even though they tore his shirt that morning when they were fighting over 'chop money'. _{my wife calls me honey.}

@ fadenike
See the wahala you are causing here. Your post carries too little information for anybody to understand the angle you are coming from. Exactly what are you getting at? What do you want to find out.

@ TV01
Badd Mind

@ Tonee
like my spirit had a conscious existence before i was born.

God had a conscious existence before Jesus was born.

TV01:
Hebrews 7:3 - without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life

The Bible says!

God bless

And I think TV01 finalised the issue.

My dear Jen33
I will like to know where you get all this information from. did it originate from you? another religion? some book? cosmic forces? did a spirit reveal it to you or someone else? is it a form of free thinking?

Like i said, you can only be the mother of someone that was formed inside you. God (a Spirit) was definitely not formed inside mary.

Lol!
haba TV01 i just want her to give a more detailed explanation. chei

can you be more explicit?

oh boy did you read the link? they dont prove anything short of how much changes have been made to the personality and identity of horus down the line. Wikipedia even submits that pepeople believed that horus was a resurrected osiris. And you think this will convince me that someone i know personally does not exist. (kai no icon to hiss). What is the earliest written record of these similarities (there was none in your link)? Stop pasting subjective interepretations of oral traditions.

Jen 33 u still dont get it do u? I know Horus and Ra and Isis predte the Christs earthly life. But their stories were not recorded were they? it was simply passed down from generation to generation. and we all know what happens to oral traditions after 3 thousand years dont we. as these stories pass down, they get details added and removed. the stories told about horus 3000BC and the stories told 2000BC [5 thousand years apart] thru oral tradition cannot be the same. get my drift? so what written records of the story of horus detailing similarities with Jesus predates the gospel.

Help me out here. I'm ready to learn. [I'm not a student of history that far off]

The scriptures Mark 5: 25-34 and Acts 19: 11-12 are the scriptural basis used to justify the use of handkerchiefs while James 5:14 (Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord) is used to justify the use of annointing oil. However, as stated by trini_girl, it is the faith that does the work: faith in God.

However, these days we see people putting their faith in handkerchiefs and oils, and commercializing the power of God.

trini_girl:
So, since the purpose of these handkercheifs and aprons were to heal the sick and exorcise demons, how is it that nowadays they're being called "prayer handkerchiefs" and sold at a price?

Do people get healed and demons run when they touch them?

The intructions for my handkerchief to be effective went like this:-

1. Keep it on you body at all times
2. When you pray, hold it in your hand
3. If you're believing God for something and the moment has come ex waiting to hear the verdict of your relatives trial,
be sure to hold it tight in the court room and pray continually for a positive outcome.

Some people cannot pray without one material or the other. They go for visa and job interviews with handkerchiefs. Your daughter had a bad dream? annoint her before she sleeps. You need favour? Carry one handkerchief. Haba! God na magician?

Is there someone on nairaland with comprehensive knowledge on this subject?

Bros why u dey bambooze us with hearsay? Which research u don carry out? Which evidence you get? E never occur to you say these stories about these mythical characters are actually copy-copy of Jesus? i mean how can you prove they predate Christ?

Let me make this clearer. You claim The Story of Jesus was plagiarized from old greek, hindu and egyptian legends. What proof do you have? How do you know categorically that these stories predate the story of Jesus? What is the earliest recorded mention of these stories? does anyone of them predate the written gospels?