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Absolute rubbish !! which airport is london metropolitan airport? Why would anyone launder 75 million dollars in cash in a country where the currency is GBP without raising suspicion? We all know these politicians are corrupt but making stupid allegations is plain disgusting. |
congoshine:I have seen some of your posts and i think its time i step in breifly on the advice of my sister. Firstly islam is different to Arab culture and there is a clear distinction for the knowledgable. We muslims never feel arabs are superior in anyway and the torch bearer of islam, The holy Prophet saidn in his farewell message "No arab is superior to a non arab and vice versa" Your generalisation of equating adoption of islaam as a way of life to adopting the arab culture at the expense of african culture is way of the mark and simplist. We are muslims, we beleive in God , we believe in his prophets, message and the quran. We try to obey God within our ability and when it comes to social issues take whatever is good and beneficial from any culture and reject whatever is bad. We have the free will to practise our culture so long as it does not diplease our creator. In the principles of islamic jurispudence, there is what we call "ourf" which is local customs and culture. Ourf plays a factor in the deriving of islamic legal systems and such is the dynamism of islamic legal theory. I also invite you to the islamic way of life, perhaps it might be beneficial to you ![]() |
Seems this thread is about to die, i just remembered it today and would like to ressurect it as it is probably my only thread in this section .Sisters in the house help yourselves and benefit each other by advice, question , answers etc. May Allah make us all better muslims filled with his taqwa and eeman. |
ifyalways:I agree with you and need to stop being lazy, grow the balls to stand firm and pass my point across. Everyday is a school day, IFY I have learnt another thing from you today ![]() |
ifyalways:Wallahi i feel your pain, i feel your worries and i have them too, we are concerned , we are emotional about the whole thing , we get worried and the solutuion is to return to the book of Allah. I can bet my life that the imams over there do exactly what you have stated but there are more deep rooted sociological problems out there. Islam works perfectly in an islamic society and islam is whole package when one aspect is abandoned , often times muslims will never reap the whole benefit of being muslims in an islamic society. Jos crises have been traced to mining which led to competition for the scarce resources in the area, this led to tribal conflicts and then one tribe happens to be muslim and the other happens to be another faith. Most of the youths that go on rampage do cannot even recite the qurán correctly no to talk of understanding the meanings. The reason i suggested the boko haram as a better example is because they clinge on to "islam" as their source of inspiration and fight the state on that premise. However, they are bunch of deluded folks whose ideology have always been crushed intellectually by the nothern scholars themeselves. However, the poverty and joblessness of the populace is playing a factor up there. . The boko haram were not fighting christians but were fighting muslims of the same tribe as well. The crux of this matter is that not every apparent violent religious extremism needs to be solved solely by imams or sermons, most of these problems have to be solved in a socio-economic manner blended with islamic teachings. Umar said " Poverty is next to kufr" which means poverty can lead one to extremism of various forms which in trun can push you out of islam. The prophet used to pray that "I seeek refuge from poverty and kufr" And God knows best. |
mukina2:Very important and that is my only mission on this section, to help myself first by learning from others as i am selfish and then help my other fellow muslims and muslimah not forgeting our sincere non muslim friends on this section like [b]Hymen and others. May Allah assist me in this quest.What is the point in talking down another muslim while feeling you are the best when only Allah knows our secret lives. The muslim character is very important and a bad character eats up all the good deeds a muslim does which leaves him/her perpetually in negative. The prophet PBUH was reported to have said "The bankrupt of my ummah is someone who comes on the day of judgement with lots of good actions like hajj,saqaqah,ramadhan,lots of fasting,dhikr etc but eventually is thrown in the fire because he backbites, slanders another muslim, querellsome, swindles others and lots of injustice to others" This is simply due to the fact that when you step on the right of another person , on the day of judgement you shall pay the person back with your good deeds and if you exhaust your good deeds , the other person sins would be put on you which translates to no good deed, the consequence is the punisshment of Allah. This is the justice of Allah. We seek refuge from Allah from this calamity. N.B i have replied your mail. |
mukina2:This is very true indeed , muslims have to look inward to solve most of our problems. Most of the enemy aggression that fuels some kind of exremism would never have happened if some muslims were not hypocrites. An outside enemy cannot kill a person without the internal enemy aiding him/her. |
ifyalways:Alihamdulilah my sista i am great! This issue at hand is a very complex issue and i will try in due course Insha Allah to address some of the specifics. The first problem with regards to the issue of extremism and radicalism is generalisation. "Palestinaian radicalism" is different from "Pakistan taliban radicalism" which is also different from "Afghani taliban radicalism". The Jos crises is also different from the boko haram crises. Regarding your exact question about what we muslims are doing to tackle the jos crises, i honestly cannot speak on behalf of the muslim leaders in Jos as i do not know their efforts. However, from my understanding of global issues that affect muslims I am aware of lots of scholars and imams and even the "leader" of nigerian muslims which is the sultan speak and condemn sensless killings in the name of islam. Ify, the jos crises i think is not the best example of what you mean as the economic, tribal and political dynamics of the crises outweighs the religous in a significant manner. The boko haram might be a better example and most nothern scholars themselves castigated the boko harams ideology. The truth is lack of proper education, islamic and secular is the main problem IMO. There is no alternative to knowledge and with knowledge no idiot can ask you to go burn your neighbours house cos he is a southern christian. Another example is the Yemeni crises by the houthi rebels, this issues is purely a social exclusion issue which led to revolt but the houthi were tagged extremist and bombed by the hyprcritical Saudi royal govt. I avoided the thread you posted because i really do not like to discuss issues that will lead no where except insults. Islam does not need a revolution within as islam is not the problem. The problem is we muslims, part of the problem is economic, part of the problem is tribal, part of the problem is bad leadership part of the problem is external aggression, part of the problems is hypocricy in our midst and it goes on and on. To move the discussion foward i think we need to address specifics and deal with it according to its circumstances and merit. |
mukina2:Yes i got your mail and would Insha Allah reply u in a bit |
ifyalways:And me too o Bi nasrullah , Ameen |
ifyalways:Radicalism IMO is a relative term and depends on the context of discussion. Extremism is of various types and kind and i will appreciate if you define the kind of extremism you mean. Rejection of hadith in its entirety IMO is one form of extremism, castigating all non muslims and caalling for their head is another form of extremism. Some muslims that stand for the Palestinian cause by going on the Turkish Flotila were tagged as radicals by non muslims and people who blow themselves up are also termed as radicals. These two groups are different but termed as radicals. Ify , your query is very general and wide perhaps if you redefine it it would help me insha Allah to know where to start from. And God knows best |
According to NL wikileaks Jakumo is [b]JA[/b]miu [b]KU[/b]foriji [b]MO[/b]hammed ![]() |
People should forget all this prophecy thingy as no one knows the future IMO, all the "MOG" making prophecies are just making conjectures and we should attach no importance to it. Having said that, i have lots of respect for Bakara and i think he is one of the few pastors together with Bishop Gbonigi who have been forthrite and speak the truth against the Looters in power. Moses had religious and political power, Joshua had both, David had both, Solomon had both and these were all recorded in the bible which makes me wonder where the whole idea of a pastor not morally qualifed to run for eletive post comes from. Bakare has the right to run for elective post and his pastoral background does not prevent him from holding political officce. The whole idea of separating religion from politics is not existent in Nigeria so we should do things in our own way and not like communist china or russia. If a person has been critical of the establishment , he should be given a chance to prove what he can do and if he delievers good for him while if he fails he would be relegated to the dustbin of history. IBB gave Tai solarin an opportunity to perfom at Peoples bank but he could not deliever which made him back track on criticising govt like he used to. I would love Bakare to remain in the SNG as a pressure group but if he decided to team up with Buhari on the same ticket i would support the team. |
mukina2:Salams Mukina2 if this was to me i havent seen anything yet . Hope u well and good? |
ifyalways:Apologies for the late reply. Someone could be blessed with some ability to see some things and it is called "True dreams". The prophet said true dreams is 1/40 of prophethood. Having true dreams is one aspect and then blessed with the ability to inteprete them is another blessing. The science of dream intepretation exists in islam and one of the notable classical scholar in that realm was Ibn sireen and his books are still available till today. Any kind of "prophecy" that falls short of true dreams or natural intuition (in yoruba we call it ifura logun agba) is something else and most likely there is a jinn connection. The difference between a fortune teller and what i explained above is that a fortune teller delibreately consults to know a specific thing about someone but a true dreamer does not plan it and Allah just chooses to reveal some things of the future to such person. Also, there are some people that walk pass you and start to say somethings about you without planning, this is also handiwork of the jinns and part of fortune telling. In summary , only God knows the future and even if we dream about something we still have to pray and pesevere to make that dream a reality if it is a good thing as the ultimate power lies with Allah. Also, if someone like a prophet of doom predicts something bad about you ignore it and pray to Allah against any calamity. The rule and guide is to never listen to any fortune teller and if someone wants to predict shut him up and tell him off. If fortune tellers were worth it no marriage would be broken and no one would work. And God knows best. |
Now, you might wonder why not just muslims but jews, christians and sabians would have salvation according to the qurán. The answer or explanation is what i explained to you earlier on about the various prophets and chain of transition of the message. The jews meant in the verse were the jews at the time of Moses PBUH and after Moses but before the avdent of Jesus PBUH. The jews who believed in Jesus PBUH when he came were called christians and it is these christians the quran was refferring to. Also, the christians who held on to the oneness of God and did not deify Jesus PBUH after he left this world, for about 570 years are also the christians refferred to by the qurán. On the advent of Muhammad PBUH the believing christians who accepted Muhammad PBUH were the new believers and the ones that rejected strayed from the single straight path of Abraham PBUH. In summary, there is salvation and eternal bliss in the after life for the believers before Muhammad PBUH as they all believed in Allah and the individual prophet that was sent to them like Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshuaa, David, Solomon and when they died the question in the grave about who their prophet was would be answered with reference totheir time. The other issue is about those who were not in the middle east for example in Africa and who never heard the message of the prophets. Allah says in the qurán Q28 v 59 " And your lord never destroyed the towns until he raised in the metrolpolis a messanger , reciting to them our revelations . . . ." Allah never punishes except a messanger has been sent. The prophets of Allah are numerous and we do not know them all and only know a few of them. The answer to this riddle about those in africa for example is what Allah said in the quran Q16 v 36 " And certainly we raised in every nation a messenger saying : Worship Allah and shun the Shaiytan . . . ." This beautiful verse clears any ambiguity as to who had a messenger and who did not. Like i said before, All the prophets were muslim and had one message : Worship the only true God without associating partners to him. Whoever believed in them and did righteous deeds would be enjoying in the barzakh now and who ever did not only Allah knows their fate at present. Hymen, this is the best simplication i could do but if yoy would like to get into more detail about life after death let me know and i will i nsha Allah explain further life after death in islam post Muhammad PBUH. There are lots of details and steps ranging from grave, to the manner of ressurection, to the day of judgement , to judgement , to life in paradise, life in hell life in neither of the two etc May Allah bless you with islam sooner than we think. , still expecting that question though ![]() And indeed God knows best. |
hymen:Apologies for the delay, i was doing some travelling over the weekend. ![]() Life after death in islam . . , this is a journey and transition to a life of eternal bliss or eternal ruin, i would do my best insha Allah to summarise it in the simplest manner i can. Once the sould is taken out of man, the soul goes up to the heavens in salutation of its creator and the soul is returned back to the body of man in the grave, or wherever the body is deposite or even ash remnant. Allah has the power to bring the body back to life after its death. The next phase is the barzakh , which is the life in the grave or elswhere Allah deems it fit for man to dwell. This stage is the transition where the dead would be till the day of ressurection , then judgement , then paradise, hell or neither (ashab al a´raf). Enjoyment starts in the barzakh and likewise punishment starts in the barzakh, when the soul is put back into the body in the grave angels would appear to man to question him about Who is your lord, Who was your prophet that brought the message, What is your book. This brings me directly to your question about life after death of believers before the advent of Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Allah says in the quran Q2 v 62 " Surely those who believe and those who are jews, christians and the sabians who believe in Allah and the last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their lord, and there is no fear for them nor shall they grieve." There is a similar verse in Q5 v 69. |
hymen:I was about to declare you wanted , as you went AWOL but there is a fine for that you know . Good to have you back and u have surely been missed. Please i am just in a bit of a rush as I would answer your query in depth insha Allah later tonite or IA tmr. Take gud care though |
@Uplawal Aunty , but kinni mo se fun yin nah!! If i dont reply to some of your posts you say i am ignoring you, if i reply you say i am behaving like i know all, if i disagree you say a different thing, if i just post innocently you accuse me of refferring to you. The other day you said i just started to say "And God knows best" and i pretended and ignored it as a quick check on the page 1 of the thread will show you were wrong. Few weeks back i literally begged you to let us discuss some of your islamic position privately but you refused. My people in the house can anyone tell me in case i have innocently done something to our dear sista uplawal. I do apologise though if i have done something wrong please find a place in your heart to forgive me. |
ikay88:Seconded, even Utomi in the team wouldnt be a bad idea. |
I doubt if this will happen , the CPC ACN alliance talks is still on and ACN will produce the VP position. Bakara is not a member of ACN and the Tinubu i know will pick someone loyal to him if he doesnt get the slot. This is would not just happen as far as i can see. Bakare , however forthright he has been as a pressure group leader might be best remaining a pressure group leader or participate in governance in another way but not VP. |
spam police banned me today after typing for several minutes and my posts never appeared ![]() Anyway i have posted it again now alihamdulilah. |
@IFY No knows the future except Allah and it is only what Allah reveals to the Prophet of the future he transmitts to us. There is no contradiction inthe hadith at all and Aisha was right ans the quran says it is only Allah that knows the future. Fortune tellers sometime predicts the future from what the jinns who hear the conversation of the angels about a person tells them. However, Allah has the power to change whatever was discussed as the ultimate knowledge lies with him which is the "Ilm Laden" . We were warned by the prophet never to visit fortune tellers and whoever does while believing in them to know the future has left the fold of islam. There were fortune tellers in the time of the Prophet PBUH and during the hijra when the prophet PBUH and Abu bakr were in the hole , a fortune teller told the unbelievers the prophet was in the hole but Allah made the unbelivers to not believe the fortune teller as the hole was covered by a spider web. The fortune teller was right (based on what the jinn told him) but the ultimate power lies with Allah. The prophet predicted the future many times based on what Allah revealed to him of the future but could never know the future on his own. Hence Aisha said anyone that says he knows the future is a liar. let me know if you understand the explanation. And God knows best. |
The reason for this example of mine is to help us understand some “apparent perceived” contradiction in the light of historical human reality of the time. Also, sometimes the Prophet PBUH says something and when advanced knowledge comes to him from above he says another thing which supersedes the previous. Assuming one sahabi never heard the latest info about a particular issue he would only pass judgement on what he knew albeit old knowledge. Now, this old knowledge if passed on to 2 generations and recorded in a hadith book having passed the requirements would be 100% authentic (sahih), if another hadith (new knowledge on the issue) is also passed down by another sahabi and recorded in hadith book after passing the requirements, that will also be authentic (100% sahih). The issue now is we have two conflicting hadeeths, the duty of scholars of hadeeth is now to look at the established methodology in resolving this kind of problematic scenario which includes 1 Time frame of the two narrations which means the latest one has an advantage 2 How many other sahabas narration conform with either of the two. 3 Is there a contradiction with the quran? 4 the issue to which the hadith relates to – social issues like the hadith of ibn masud and Umar , aqeedah, fiqh isuues etc 5 And many other issues which I cannot list here A result is then arrived at from this and that is a brief example of the hardwork the scholars have put into codifying the Islamic knowledge. Now, this is just a 0.1% of what goes on in hadeeth science but a layman without knowledge will read few hadeeths posted by anti hadeeth muslims and agree with them without knowledge . We cannot learn this science on the internet andit has to be learnt in a classroom from a qualified teacher, may Allah endow us with the knowledge of islam , understanding of it and hereby bestowing upon us wisdom which he grants to whosoever he wishes plus the taqwa to practise the knowledge. And God knows best |
The issue of hadeeth science is something that we muslims should study as much as we can especially as our faith draws it guidance from the Quran and secondly the hadeeth - sunnah of the Prophet PBUH. Without adequate knowledge and understanding of this subject we would eitheir fall into the extremism of castigating all hadeeths or ultra conservativeness of using only literal meaning of the hadeeth to draw verdict without considering all the available hadeeth on an issue. Science of hadeeth is what people spend at least 4 years in an islamic univeristy or Or institutes. To make unfounded wide allegations about hadeeths in order to discredit hadeeths without knowledge is an intellectual crime and a crime against islam. Some of the hadeeth quoted by uplawal in Bukhari and muslim that appear to contradict themselves would have been understood if one was learning hadeeth from a teacher. Firstly, all sahabas cannot have heard all what the Prophet said or did, sometimes a particular shahabi knows about one hadeeth and the other does not know. A classic example of this is when Ibn Masud (if I remember well) knocked on the door of Umar three times and left when there was no answer, Umar then asked why he left and was told by ibn Masud that he heard it from the prophet PBUH that, after three knocks without a response one should leave the house of the person as he might by busy. Umar did not believe and asked for a witness otherwise he would punish Ibn masud for lying against the Prophet PBUH, luckily for ibn masud on reaching the masjid he discovered other people who could attest to the hadeeth. |
The issue of hadith is a complex subject we as muslimls should try to study to empower us with the neccessary understanding so as not to fall into extremism of any sort nor ultra liberalism of any guise. The science of hadith entails many subjects which include: Uloom al Rijalun hadith - (Science of the narrators of hadith) Sharh al hadith - (Explanation of the many ahadeethsI) uloom al sislsatu al hadith (Science of the chains of the hadeeth) biography of the Muhaditheen (Authors like Imam Bukhari, Tirmidhi , abu dawood etc) Methodology of the muhaditheen (Their methodology) I cannot go near explaining these sciences here on NL as it was students learn for at least 4 years in islamic universities Or institutes. To make unfounded wide allegations about hadeeths in order to discredit hadeeths without knowledge is an intellectual crime and a crime against islam. Some of the hadeeth quoted by uplawal in Bukhari and muslim that appear to contradict themselves would have been understood if one was learning hadeeth from a teacher. Firstly, all sahabas cannot have heard all what the Prophet said or did, sometimes a particular shahbas knows about one hadeeth and the other does not know. A classic example of this is when Ibm Masud (if I remember well) knocked on the door of Umar three times and left when there was no answer, Umar then asked why he left and was told by ibn Masud that he heard it from the prophet PBUH that after three knocks without a response leave the house of the person as he might by busy. Umar did not believe and asked for a witness otherwise he would punish Ibn masud for lying against the Prophet PBUH, luckily for ibn masud on reaching the masjid he discovered other people who could attest to the hadeeth. The reason for this example of mine is to help us understand some “apparent perceived” contradiction in the light of historical human realuty of the time. Also, sometimes the Prophet PBUH says something and when advanced knowledge comes to him from above he says another thing which supersedes the previous. Assuming one sahaba never heard the latest info about a particular issue he would only pass judgement on what he knew albeit old knowledge. Now, this old knowledge if passed on to 2 generations and recorded in a hadith book having passed the requirements would be 100% authentic (sahih), if another hadith (new knowledge on the issue) is also passed down by another sahabah and recorded in hadith book after passing the requirements, that will also be authentic (100% sahih). The issue now is we have two conflicting hadeeths, the duty of scholars of hadeeth is now to look at the established methodology in resolving this kind of problematic scenario which includes 1 Time frame of the two narrations which means the latest one has an advantage 2 How many other sahabas narration conform with either of the two. 3 Is there a contradiction with the quran? 4 the issue to which the hadith relates to – social issues like the hadith of ibn masud and Umar , aqeedah, fiqh isuues etc 5 And many other issues which I cannot list here A result is then arrived at from this and that is a brief example of the hardwork the scholars have put into codifying the Islamic knowledge. Now, this is just a 0.1% of what goes on in hadeeth science but a layman without knowledge will read few hadeeths posted by anti hadeeth “muslims” and agree with them without knowledge . We cannot lear this science on the internet and has to be learnt in a classroom from a qualified teacher, may Allah endow us with the knowledge of islam , understanding of it and hereby bestowing upon us wisdom which he grants to whosoever he wishes. And God knows best |
yemmight:Every power drunk person has a peak before a fall and i think he is having his peak now. In few years he would only be making rules in the conifnes of his ikoyi home. |
ifyalways:You are too good ![]() It is still flying and remember it in ur duas to always land and cuddle safely in its nest. ![]() |
You could give a qur´an to a non muslim for the purpose of enlightening him or her about islam. When you present it to the person explain to him/her to treat it with care and it is not to be taken to toilets. If the person is non arabic speaking then please give the person o copy of the english translation preferrably without the arabic script in there. I see no reason why anyone should discourage you to give a qurán to a non muslim if it is for the purpose of knowledge. The verse some people quote for not giving is in Q56 when Allah said " . . none touches it except the pure " but it should be understood that the knowledge of the quran is the paramount and the quran was not even in a book form when the verse was revealed and there is a deeper explanation to the verse which i dont want to go into now. If the non believing jinn can become muslim from hearing the recitation of the quran , many non muslims have become muslims from just reading the translation of the quran as well. Please give the quran to whoever is interested in the light of islam and May Allah illuminate the hearts of your friend with the light of islam. And God knows best. |
Nice article and the truth is very clear for all to see. Tinubu is the benefactor of ACN and will be the undoing of ACN as well. The old trick in politics is if you help someone reach a position he owes you his allegiance and you have influence over him. Tinubu knows if politicians win through primaries they owe their allegiance to the people and not him, resulting in loss of influence. The end result is , we the people suffer in silence and satisfied with mediocricy |
See all the yeye PDP people and thir equally yeye GEJ. I dey Laugh o |
Ibime:ROMFLAO Dont forget Jakumo i think he is a fan of GEJ as well. GEJ has no ideology and Atiku was right when he said if you ask GEJ his plans for Nigeria we should doubt if we would get a coherent answer |
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