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God is not partisan, He does not belong to any one group alone and the idea that He is punishing people for unbelief is really absurd.

Jesus was tried and convicted of heresy and or blasphemy like many before and after him. Nothing special.

Our forefathers before Islam and Christianity were not atheists. Atheism is alien to human culture. We have to get rid of Islam and Christianity and go back to the old gentleman God of our ancestors via IFA.

southpole:
God is not a Christian, He is the God of the Christian. You know about God I thought atheists don't believe in the existance of God. To accept Jesus is something no one should miss

I am not an atheist. I believe in God just like my ancestors.

southpole:
A morally upright man who does not believe in God, Jesus and the holy spirit has no place in heaven but hell

God is not a Christian nor is He a maniac.

southpole:
It is not a threat but a fact

Do you really think it is a fact that God is burning morally upright unbelievers in hell fire?. Think about it.

Who are you answerable to?. No one?.

southpole:
Nothing as silly as taking the path of hell

stop threatening unbelievers of your theology with hell.

itsme01:





some people wont like this at all

Yorubas are not extremist like some hypocrites, Anthony Joshua has both muslim and christians in his family and they both pray for his success

If you claim to serve your God and enjoy your religion then you have no reason belittling other peoples religion, people who try to talk down other peoples religion are just insecured and scared so they want everyone to share their religion and veiws

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Christians and Muslims are the only two groups that talk down on others.

Just make sure you are always fair to whoever crosses your path and you are OK.

unbitchable:
Olodo, Awolowo was never convicted by any law court. if he was an ex convict he wouldn't have been allowed by law to contest for an election in 1979.

He was convicted of treasonable felony in 63.

Unbelievable!

There is a level of civilization that we will reach wherein poverty will end globally.

Over 50% of Yoruba language is derived from the kemitic Egyptian of 5000 years ago. This was also the language spoken by the Hebrews when they were slaves in Egypt.

Officialgarri:
Anyway, I want to plead with Seun to add an UNPOPULAR section to Nairaland called "Philosophy".
It might not fetch money as much, but it would help in some sort of ways.

There are schools of thoughts that need to be presented and flogged

I agree with you.

On social media platforms, I have not stopped saying Nigeria should revert to income tax as its main source of revenue, oil money should not be up to 10% of government revenue because money is only as good as where you got it from.

Socialized labor is the next level in human advancement. Everybody deserves a means to a living. Before labor can be socialized, the economy has to be highly organised with all wage earners paying income tax and no informal sector is existing at all in the economy. The unemployed will then be posted to a work place to relieve others and given a basic income. The income will be subject to the monthly approval of the institution the person is posted to, much like the NYSC National Youth Service Corps program. To have enough money in its coffers to finance the system, a nation must be taking over 30% of its GDP as taxes. In this age of automation and artificial intelligence AI, socialized labor is the way to go. If preindustrial societies existed without unemployment, the modern society must embrace socialized labor to tackle unemployment. May God assist us.

I wanted to be a medical doctor and I ended up as a chemical engineer.

Excellent response!

Maximus69:
You've spoken in volumes and i'm sure followers of this thread of yours have learnt a lot from our discussion so far.

What Jehovah's Witnesses are saying is NOT for everyone, because faith is not a possession of all peoples! 2Thessalonians 3:2

Our message is ONLY for those who hate evil and are anxious to see it's end, when such ones notice us and ask us why we are different, then is the time to make them understand what our God says! 1Peter 3:15

You've gotten your body, so do whatever you want with it.

But as for me and my household WE WILL WORSHIP ONLY THE GOD WHO SPOKE WITH ABRAHAM, AND WE WILL NEVER DEPART FROM HIS REGULATIONS! Joshua 24:15

Farewell lawani!

I hope you know that Abraham was a man who indulged in human sacrifices which is why God could have told him to sacrifice his son. God can not tell any modern christian that. I hate evil and I am anxious to see its end but I can't subscribe to the theology of JW out of fear of eternal death!. My own God, Olodumare does not punish people for unbelief. Maybe in subsequent incarnations you will get better and become more reasonable by following reasonable theology. Religion shall become history on earth, it is just a drawback on our journey to perfection as humans and we will soon get over it by the grace of God. Abrahamic theologies belong in the dust bin of history. Farewell Maximus69

@ Maximus69 You expect me to say those who don't believe my theology will be punished by God!. I can't stoop to your level by saying that! My ancestors never said that and they respected all theology they came across which I see as a mistake on their path because the respect is not mutual when it comes to Islam and christianity.

Maximus69:
Now read the first bolded and the second and ask yourself if you're making any sense!

Firstly ; People will give account of their deeds in heaven before God

Secondly ; You and your folks will fight for God to turn this earth(the so called market) into a Paradise, where there shall be no more wars, poverty and etc

So if they're going to give account to God in heaven, why fighting them here again on earth?
And why make the MARKET (EARTH) a Paradise when you're still going to your NIRVANA (HOME)?

Now you're going nuts!

The truth is THERE MUST BE AGREEMENT ON HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE HERE ON EARTH!

You are just deceiving yourself lawani.

You've watch too much of those home videos to the point of downloading all their nonsense and ingredients in your skull!

Please stop this nonsense because it's not gonna help you, you won't be able to have a stable relationship, husband or wife for real nor children that will be obedient with this your stupid NIRVANA idea!

You want to live without moral rules so you can't arrange anything worthwhile, there is nothing wrong
if your husband/wife cheats,
if your children are wayward,
if your daughter/son is abused,
if your employer maltreat you,
if anyone does anything evil to you.

After all everyone will end up in NIRVANA/APERE after all their evil deeds.
They'll continue to incarnate till they get to your NIRVANA!

So they're all travellers passing/traveling through (earth) the market place!

You are the one going nuts if you think JWs are going to take over the world!. I pity you if without JW teachings you can't differentiate good from bad!. That is very pathetic indeed. If people are threatening me with eternal death if I don't believe their theology then I reserve the right to fight them with all I got and God will be right behind me. When the time comes all Abrahamic theologies will have no where to hide. Their evil will be brought to an end. We are here to make here better until it becomes a paradise.

Maximus69:
Speaking ill of God start from saying 'God is not going to do anything to solve our problems!'

Your NIRVANA idea means whatever anyone does is never to be accounted for, since they're going to reach NIRVANA anyway. So why do you plan to fight for the God who has permitted everything to take shape on it's own?

My friend stop deceiving yourself!

If you're planning to fight in behalf of God, then you're not different from the existing terrorists already on ground, which means you're dragging issues back to we're we started PEOPLE FIGHTING FOR GOD ARE NOT REASONABLE !

We are not terrorists but reasonable people who don't want God to be portrayed in a bad light. We are going to win the debate and there will be quiet. There is karma called esan in Yoruba theology and you shall reap the things you sow and you shall also give account of your deeds in heaven before God. However a sound theology portraying God as a gentleman is worth fighting for!. God is going to use us His children to turn this earth into a paradise where there shall be no more wars, poverty and etc.

Maximus69:
Theocracy means government by divine guidance!

Religion is Religion, whether
Islam,
Churches
Hindu
Buddha or
Ifa!

All is religion!

The problem is to IDENTIFY the one and only source of divine guidance (God's undiluted word).
If you're advocating for theocracy then it's no difference from religious beliefs, the one and only form of worship that's approved of God is what all humans need.
So it's either you agree with the one and only source of divine guidance or you allow everyone to choose whatever they want to believe.
You can't choose for others because that's tantamount to intolerance, and it will still lead to WARS!
The one and only form of worship that's not forcing anyone is Jehovah's Witnesses. We don't force people to here our message like other religions do, we don't shout in public places, we only ask for your permission and if you're not willing to talk we'll leave you alone.
But once we're leaving you alone, you need not ask us to tell you what's going to happen to those who refused to heed our warning because if you do, we have no option that to tell you the truth "you will perish!" John 3:16

Abrahamic religions like JW speak ill of God. They say God will punish people for unbelief. Right thinking people are against that and we are going to join hands together to say no on behalf of God!. Other theologies are okay.

Maximus69:
If you're sure of the bolded, why then saying what could escalate to more violence?

Don't you know that by trying to impose a ban on people's religion, you could cause more harm than good?

Well let me tell you what will happen, many will stand up for whatever they believe and the violence will be much more than what you're trying to end. Most religionists aren't teaching what Jesus said which is (turning the left cheek after a slap on the right) of course each will lay down his life for whatever he/she believes.

But if you're sure that all of them are travelers to your so called NIRVANA, then you'll just ignore whatever they're saying as long as they're not stopping you from going about your own business!

Sorry lawani, your NIRVANA is just a deceit. The truth is that 'everyone of us living on this planet want a Paradise and there is no Paradise except what God promised about our earth.

This is the place God made for us as our permanent home, that's why you're yearning for the peace and security on earth instead of relying on the idea of a NIRVANA that you're not seeing!

Man has tried to leave religion alone by proclaiming secular government but it is not working. Secularism has failed and only theocracy will work but it has to be under a sound theology which sees God as father of all. If we turn a blind eye to religion as you suggest, the end result will not be palatable for humanity.

Maximus69:
If you're truthfully convinced about NIRVANA, why are you calling for a group to be banned?

After all everybody will reach NIRVANA anyway.

Stop deceiving yourself with lies of NIRVANA, there is no NIRVANA anywhere, evil must stop that's what you and i are yearning for!

I am calling for all groups to be banned who say God will punish people for unbelief. You will continue reincarnating until you become Apeere in Yoruba theology or nirvana in Buddhism. That is the reality.

seunmsg:
The actual meaning of the name is what we don’t know but most researchers concluded that the name came from Oyo traders interaction with the people of the old Songhai empire.

From my observation, the original word was Phoenician meaning west later used to mean those who are civilized without submitting to Allah. The Songhai corrupted Europa to Yoruba.

Maximus69:
If you're truthful about the bolded, then tell this forum what happened to people's intellect so that the world is not at peace?

I have simplified what the Bible teaches for you, but it's obvious you love confusion.

Hellooooooooo lawani, conflicts will arise because all humans are intelligent beings having brains to choose what they will accept as right and wrong. So there will continue to be disputes if we're not in agreement over right and wrong.

Jehovah's Witnesses have settled these differences between peoples from various cultural backgrounds, races and works of life and a big happy family of peace loving worshipers have sufficed.
What else do you need to make you understand that Jesus whose teachings made this possible is the only way if the earth will become a Paradise?

Stop deceiving yourself!

Christianity is heretic, it is blasphemy against God. The same is true of JW teachings and doctrines. God is a gentleman. He is not partisan. He is the father of all not of Muslim, christian or JW alone.

I believe it is a corruption of the Phoenician 'Europa'. It means west in Phoenician and was used to refer to Europe. Because Europe prospered without submitting to Allah, the word Europa came to mean those who prospered without submitting to Allah. The Songhai corrupted Europa to Yoruba and used the word to refer to the Oyo who were able to build a large empire without submitting to Allah.

Good development

Only 500,000 Biafrans are said to have died not 3,000,000.