₦airaland Forum

Prof Corruption: Sowore was rude! The dude needs to watch his attitude.

Professor Corruption, is there anyway u think these criminals in power deserve to be treated? I don't think speaking the truth amount to rudeness; Sowore did wonderfully well by calling these criminals their real name.

Billyonaire: There was no clash at any point, I watched The Stream, but I am very sure this OP hasnt watched it.

OP is right, you are wrong. Go back and watch it again.

Even with all the comfort at Aso Rock and machinery of government at the disposal of Mr. President and his agents, the name of Muhamadu Buhari is still given him heart-attack and sleepless night.

Mikespartan: I have just completed my medicals with Diamond Bank.....and my uncle and his wife who are both doctors in the USA offered to sponsor my studies and all when they heard I didn't have a job yet(this was b4 I got interview invites with Diamond). I have taken the GMAT n TOEFL already and passed. BUt before I proceed further I want to decide which of the 2 options to take as I wld nt want to encourage them to spend more money and turn around to say I'm not interested. To aid ur judgement, I'm 28years old now.

if the admission is real, go for it. While doing your Msc., if you are strong, do your CPA; this will give u d opportunity of having both CPA and ACA at the same time. If at the end of your Masters you have the privilege to stay, you are very good; if not, you will be better off when you come back home, that experience would have increase your intellectual capacity and add 3 certificate to your portfolio. If the worst come, and you are unable to get job in Nigeria, fear not, you have what it takes to be an employer of labor, it is just a matter of having the gut. My advice is based on the premisses that you have the visa already, if know visa, ko sore, getting admission is not equal to getting visa.

I can't stop imagine what Mr. President has done within the last four years to empower the youth that will take us to the moon. You have the mandate and privillege today to prepare the youth if truly you are hoping for better Nigeria.

We need to know how US tax work before we start to make comparison. First, we don't have strong law that guide our tax system in Nigeria; secondly, in US, if you leave outside you are required to file tax return, and when you are doing this any tax you paid to the government of other country will be deductible as foreign tax credit. This means if you are to pay tax of $3,000 and you have paid like $2,000 to Nigeria government because you leave and derive your income from Nigeria, you will only pay $1,000 to US government.

enyieuna: well I hope they'll use it for something substantial cos the amount is nothing compared to the service of the stained officers

What substantial things do we think they can use 500k for?

bilms: I didn't know what to reply with

Please, don’t reply them; they are overwhelmed already with the truth coming out every day. It is a matter of time; their children will soon be calling them liars. If somebody is crying because you are telling your own story, I wonder what will happened if you decided to tell their story. The evidence is there to confirm that their reactions will be worse than that of Boko Haram.

Rossikk: What has the writer's father done for Nigeria?

I will be glad to know wht your own father too has done for Nigeria. Thank God for the life of the writer, at least he is making his own contribution to his father land by exposing the lies of wicked people. Must u come here to exhibit ur level of indiscipline

Adura_ngba: LOL. Which talent? There are so many other brilliant and intelligent men all over Nigeria, so, what are you talking about? So, also, abusing GEJ all over the internet 24/7 will not change the fact that he is your President, not so?

I am just an independent observer, wht I see is what I say. Thank God that you did not denial the fact that he is a brilliant man, you only reminded me that Nigeria is blessed with millions of talented ppl but I doubt if you can substantiate the fact that Dr Jonathan is one of millions you are talking about.
I would hv love to defend Mr president with all my energy the same way u are currently doing, but when I looked at the future of Nigerian youth, I think to allow the current leaders to continue to hide under the cover of tribal and religion sentiment will be irresponsible of me.

Hate or like him will not change who Nasiru el Rufai is. Remove religion and tribal sentiment, Rufai is a very brilliant man. Like every normal human being, he is not perfect. The truth may be bitter, but when reality demand one from us, we must not shy away. He is definitely not in the category of Mr president in term of level of his intelligent. Abusing him 24 hrs on nairaland will not change the fact that this man is full of talent.

When insane people ask you insane question they don't expect any other response than insane response. If somebody ask for your age to give you job, he is just requesting to give him number that will make him happy. Jesus has nothing to do one useless person sitting in his office setting criterial without consider the reality of our own society.

Shame on the headers of these two communities. What does it take to live in peace? I will advise ppl like Jarus to call their ppl at home that war is not the solution to this problem. This is just a prototype of Nig vs Biafra when few ppl with their own interest drag the whole community into meaningless war.

tete7000: Is this not the woman that crippled unity schools during her time as education m
inister? For me the woman doesn't deserve accolades she is being given. Obasanjo govt in which she served was hardly better than the present govt and as ministers in different ministies I don't know what her legacies were.

One of her legacy is Due-Process during Obj, intact she was nicknamed "Madam Due-Process". Remove sentiment and you will know what madam due-process stand for.

Odunnu: Its a shame on the nation. The Parents, The Child, The Teachers, the Government. We all have huge part to play.
I blame the child primarily because even in the midst of the rot, those who want to excel, do excel. When a child is focused, distractions are simply, distractions.

[s]BTW, we are planning on starting our own sectional debate, and this appears to be a good topic. Fingers crossed[/s]

Aduni, pls don't let us blame the innocent children, wht can they do in a dysfunctional system?

another junk

thelastPope: Fake argument. Brazil is swimming with corruption while having stable power and other major infrastructure. Same for Russia that is more corrupt than Nigeria yet are one of the biggest world powers. I could go on and on. Fighting corruption is not development. No wonder you think an almost 80 year old man will be able to understand modern day governance. Only in Nigeria!

If 80 years old man cannot understand modern day governance, I guess you think that the 50 yrs old man there now understand it. For your information, based on the circumstance we find ourselves today, our hope for the future lies on how far we can fight corruption today. If corruption and indiscipline is out of our way be rest assured that 50% of our problem is solved.

I am afraid if we will not set up a committee to review this thread, this is an indictment on our honorable president. We will not accept this, there is need to call Seun to order.

And the president that suppose to hear the side of the poor woman to know what happened took hasty decision. What supposed to be an internal affair now become public debate. Nawa for all these mumu leaders

Dr. Wise:
Pleaseeeee! Gen. Buhari that cannot use a blackberry and now you want to compound his stupidity adding the internet.

so because u have access to internet, anybody that cannot use blackberry is stupid, no matter how u try to hide the type of upbringing you had, who you are will never leave you.

tpia1: phds from nigeria who are in nigeria, generally get jobs, to the best of my knowledge.

at least, then, dont know about now.

most phds even from elsewhere, who are in nigeria, also tend to get jobs within their fields, even if they're not millionaires.

My sister, I know that, even as worst as our system is, our Phd still get lecturing job. I am only responding to the fake information Mr ROSSIKE is given to us

ROSSIKE: Absolute rubbish. PhDs from America, Turkey, Iran, Ghana, Nigeria, India and so on. The level of ignorance on this site stinks. If you don't know the facts, don't type.

You know who is displaying ignorance. I guess you are one of the people with fake Phd that is using it to drive taxi in US. Go home to tell this to those who patronize or relied on you for their news.

ROSSIKE: You don't know what you're talking about. New York City alone must have at least 2000 cab drivers with Phds. I've met many of them myself!

Hun! I agree with you, may be Phd from Nigeria.

ROSSIKE: You're a failed, brain-dead GOAT.

Do you know how many hundreds (or thousands) of Phds who drive taxis in America?

Do you know how many graduates and masters degree holders who work as waiters, chefs, and security guards in Europe?

Loud-mouthed Dummy!!!!!

Fake news! Phds are driving taxis in America, I hear you. This story may be suitable to those who relied on you for their news.

It is clear now that these criminals don't have better thing to do. So because you are a public officer your children should not exercise their fundamental human right again. Make the law that will help our education to grow but not to denial ppl their right. Make law to punish those who steal our money and not assume that everybody in government that send their children abroad to study is a thief.

Wily+Wily:
Haaahaaaaaaaaaaa, Yoruba Obas are Agberos. thesame thing happened at Jos convention when Awolowo gave Akintola headbutt and Akintola retaliated with a heavy blow that knock Awolowo unconscious

The parent may have no reason to complain when the child they refuse to train bring trouble to their door step.

Where emotion and sentiment rule our judgments, the ability to say the truth becomes a problem. Many countries in the world had experience civil war before, America inclusive, so what we experience during the civil war was not new. Let us forget about the incidents that led to the war, all the principal actors in that incident should be held responsible, Ojukwu inclusive. The day Ojukwu declared to secede from Nigeria, and Nigeria say no, the battle line was drawn, war was declared, a party is expected to win while the other party expected to lose.
 
It is unfortunate that instead of us to focus on those who drag us to meaningless war, we continue to disturb our mind with the way in which the war was fought. How do we expect the war to be fought if not to destroy the enemies? Awolowo was perfectly right when he said that everything in war is fair. War is not a child play, when you declare a war, a battle line is drawn, the result is always clear from the beginning, the game is either you win or you lose.
 
It is shameful that we are putting this type of argument forward, how reasonable to blame our enemies for making policy that will give them victory. It is childish to expect your enemy to feed you during the war. Both of you are looking for victory, and whatever you do to give you victory is fair. If at all there is something that is unfair during the war, not given your enemy food is certainly not one of it. Even in the modern day, when there is disagreement between two countries all bilateral agreement can be stopped, so where is the crime here?

I know those who have been issue visa for this purpose in the recent time, so it may not be true that they denial Nigerians visa for this purpose. There is no doubt that they denial ppl in this category more than before, the reason for this is clear, most Nigerians who had similar opportunity in the past abuse this privillege by not paying their medical bill.

Gbawe: I disagree. The Yorubas asking for regional autonomy are actually the ones in charge of things in the SW right now. Rather, it is those in the region who lost out on "chopulation-without-giving-zilch-back" who oppose regional autonomy like Agagu, Oyinlola, Oni, Omisore and others who did nothing for anyone while in power yet will not let mandated leaders work.

Are all the Governors of the SW who back regional autonomy "those who lost power at federal level"? They are Governors already so what have they lost out on when allocations to their State remains the same as it was? If anything, why not just be silent and loot their State dry for the next 4-8 years if that is what they want to do?


In essence, the "lost out at federal level" theory makes no sense. The guys angling for regional autonomy are people wielding power and autority. They have "lost out on nothing" and should actually really stick with the Status quo if they are cut from the clothe of Alao Akala, Gbenga Daniel, Segun Oni, Omisore et al. It is important for you to know as well that many apolitical prominent Yorubas fully support regional autonomy.

Gbawe, I am a Yoruba man like you, but I believe every issue must not be politicized. Let us look at issues based on their merit, and the rational behind it. Obasanjo ruled for 8years nobody cried of regional government, we play politics of this is our son.  We cry only when things are not 100% in our favor. The statement I made is not about Yoruba alone; it is about every one of us who realize that there is injustice within our system only when things are not to our favor. You raised a valid point when u said that the present federal system is bastardized and our leaders are not sincere. The system is bastardized because we have “bas-tard” people in charge of things. Tell me, what benefit you think we can get from regional system if these criminals will still held this system?
I am not a politician, but I can smell it when people are indirectly promoting selfish interest. If regional autonomy will eradicate and people can show me how that can be possible or if it will make all of us equal before the law not on paper but in practice. I will immediately start the campaign for this system. Good leaders produce good results and bad leaders produce bad results. I maintain that our system as we have it today is not the problem, there is no perfect system anywhere in the world; it is not the system that is holding us back, it is not the system that divide us, those who are piloting the affair of our system are the enemies of our system, they are the one that are holding us back, regardless of whatever system we have in as much as these criminals are in charge our future is in mirage.

Demdem: I can speak to an extent about SW. The legacies bequeathed then are all for all to see.
Free education, health care infrastructures, scholarships - our parents were better off for it.
Legacies that includes TV station (first in Africa), cocoa house, Odua investments etc

Have u ever wondered why so many of the roads constructed by our colonial masters and those of the first republic are still standing till date while new generation roads are failing?

There is nothing you mention so far that we achive then that we cannot achieve with current system. We achieved those things because there were less thiefs in government. Almost all the roads in the country have been awarded to one contractor or the other but the criminals in govt and their friends pocket d money, how is this the problem of system. According to professor Osundare, if Nigeria does not kill corruption, corruption will kill Nigeria.
Our greatness as a nation lied in corrupt free society and rule of law.

Sky Blue: The current system IS a problem, a system where the grassroots pay to sustain a distant federal government that is so far removed from them yet has so much power over their lives IS a problem. A system that encourages corruption to thrive IS a problem. And playing ostrich does not make the problem go away. Sometimes I wonder how blind Nigerians have come to be that they can't seem to see the snake that WILL come to bite them back in the ar.se. There is a widening gap between rich and poor, we are fast creating a class society between the haves and have nots. The have nots are overwhelmingly in the majority, yet people can't seem to see the link between that issue and the state of insecurity in the country and the corruption issue.

Sometimes I just don't know about Nigeria anymore to be frank, especially when you hear thoughts like these and wonder whether it is the same country we are talking about. The problem with youth unemployment and wealth disparity in the country (especially by people who make it through corrupt means and flaunt it to the poor) is a ticking time bomb. Daft people just don't know it yet. You think high fences can protect people forever? I laugh!

If truth must be told, whatever the current system cannot take care, no other form of system will do it. People make the system to work not the other way round. In the first republic, the system at that time work for us because the leaders then were more sincere and willing to serve their people. The system then was about Awolowo in the West, Azikwe in the East and Balewa in the North. Remove the name of these people from that system and imagine what would have become of that system. I can help you answer this question, the moment these people left the stage, what happened next? People with less mature mind took over and the result was unnecessary civil war that claimed the lives of many innocent people.
Those who are clamoring for regional autonomy are doing this for selfish end. The Yoruba leaders who lost out of power at the federal are looking for something to hold on to, and they want to be in charge of their home. Those that have one resources or the other think that they want to enjoy their resources alone. What people don’t understand is that events have overtaken what we had in the first republic. Today, we have 3 levels of government: Federal, State and Local government to take care of grassroots. This to me is more design to reach the grassroots than the regional government.
The problem with most of us is our inability to understand the current system, if you don’t understand what is currently on ground, how do you want to compare this to the past or make an amendment to shape the future? I guess what Yoruba are looking for is regional autonomy that will retain the present structure, the local and state government with a regional government in Ibadan where the likes of Tinubu and co will start to determine the faith of people of west, I pray for people in the east that somebody like Andy Uba will not have the chance to gain control of that region and suddenly become regional head.
With current system, the 3 level of government have the areas they are expected to discharge; that is why we have exclusive, concurrent and residual list. The exclusive powers belong to the federal government to take care of areas like defense, foreign affairs, overseas trade, fiscal and monetary policy etc. The concurrent powers are those powers which are shared by both federal and state governments, both may act or intervene e.g. education, internal security etc, the federal government overrides the state where there is conflict, and the last one which is residual powers, which is exclusively for the state, examples of residual powers are those regarding civil law, urban planning, property issues, etc.
In all this, I find it very difficult to see the problem with our system. The real problems are those who are executing, legislating and interpreting our law. I will support the regional autonomy if this system will help us reduce the level of corruption within our system, if it will make everybody equal before the law.

The best system is what we currently have; regional autonomy is a means to create another problem.  If we don’t want to be together again, let say it loud and clear and let start the struggle for it, but to go to the system that will divide us more along ethnicity and religions should be rejected. The current system is not the problem; those who are in charge of the system are the enemies of our country. If we decide on regional autonomy today, the poor masses will be the greatest looser, as we will still have the same set present criminals controlling all the levels of government.
Our problem is very clear, no nation grow where corruption is a way of life and where the law and order is for the poor. There is no system that can survive the level of our corruption. What we need today is that leader with the fear of God, not the leader that will bury any report that does not favor his allied, but the leader that is more sympathetic to the feelings of poor masses.