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fellis: Logicboy, how u dey?
Yes atheists can enter a mosque. Non-muslims can go into a mosque if doing that would considered to be beneficial to them and if they are decently dressed, and are not with anything that would make the mosque untidy. Since your intention is to learn about Islam, then you should mention this to the people or the Imam in the mosque when you want to go in.

Cool.

albacete: [size=16pt]Satanist indeed! no be new thing jare.
Abeg make i pass

next thread plss... [/size]

I too have converted....lool


visit my thread;

https://www.nairaland.com/953661/lets-give-thanks-god-everything

hisblud: Thanks frosbel, was going through some saved pages of the unnatural circumstances and how modern scientists aka atheists/evolutionist were bent on "covering/destroying" evidence of the unnatural. Moreover your post is another "lighter" of the "arrangee" going on in the name of science, to make man believe he is god to himself.

So, science is a conspiracy?

Anyways visit my new thread- I am born again....lol

https://www.nairaland.com/953661/lets-give-thanks-god-everything

@ Logic mind


When you are done destroying and debunking Bukatyne, please visit my new thread;

I am born again!! I love God! lol


https://www.nairaland.com/953661/lets-give-thanks-god-everything

thehomer: What do you understand by the word "atheism" and what do you understand by the word "humanism". Do you think they are identical and can be used interchangeably? Answer carefully because it will expose how you think.

Please visit my new thread! I'm now a born again!! lol. Atheism and Humanism are not the same. One is a theological standpoint, the other is a philosopy. However, they are nothing compared to God!!


https://www.nairaland.com/953661/lets-give-thanks-god-everything

Unlike many fake christians, I give God thanks for everything in this life.


1) I thank God for my freedom and I thank God for allowing Christians to enslave my forefathers to bring Christianity to Nigeria

2) I thank God for the gift of my life and I thank God for the taking away of life from my cousins in Haiti earthquake.

3) I thank God for my good health and I thank God for others having leprosy, AIDS and cancer

4) I thank God for my food and I thank God for people starving in Somalia and Sudan

5) I thank God for my wealth and I thank God for the poverty of many Nigerians

6) I thank God for my safety and I thank God for the r.ape and Vaginal fissures of women in Congo

7) I thank God for putting me in the right religion and thank God for those born into other religions/belief going to hell

I thank God for my big house and I thank God for those who sleep under the bridge in Nigeria

9) I thank God for my good religious leaders and I thank God for those religious leaders who r.ape or slap childen

10) I thank God for my private jet and I thank God for those on wheelchairs and leggedez benz.

Isnt God great? Life is all about me! I worship God and deserve to be blessed with good things! Others can suffer but my God is for me..me...me...me....me

God created everything and if you are a sex slave, thank God! We are all brothers in Christ, slave master or slave

"Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ"
(Ephesians 6;5)


[size=18pt]Hallaelujah!!![/size]

LagosShia: and so what? the marja-al-taqlid are from all countries and revered by shia all over the world.

Wait! Did Shia Islam start in Iran or something?

I have researched a lot about Islam but never entered a mosque. I am not going there to argue or anything. I just want to see the rites and rituals. I already know
a little bit about the prayers and Muezzin.

@Vedaxcool, you are talking nonsense. This is how you act everytime I debunk you!

1) I debunked your example- atheism can not be a motive for murder. A person can not just kill because he is an atheist. Atheism is only a theological standpoint. It is like me not believing in the tooth fairy and then going to kill someone who dresses as the tooth fairy- the motive is insanity not disbelief. If you want to use disbelief to investigate and solve the murder, you will catch no one.

2) Communism itself is a religion. Define religion

What are the necessary criteria for a religion?

-Supreme leaders (either men or gods)
-set of beliefs or customs
-devoted members
-laws guiding human affairs
-promise of benefit to adherents/punishment to unbelievers


Communism is a religion

LagosShia: Ayatullah Khomeini is a religious and spiritual figure in Islam.he was also a marja-al-taqlid for Shia Muslims the world over.

Crap. If Muhammad was the last prophet, shouldnt it mean that Khomeneini is just another cleric or leader?

Are you Iranian by any chance?

Do you worship Iran or Allah?

Is this not a Nigerian site? Unless it is OPEC, how can Iran help Nigeria?

vedaxcool: Poor child didn't even understand the simple question, that indicated that an atheist can kill because others believe in God, really u usually deserve pity every time I read your response.

Not believing in God can never be a motive for murder. Never. Atheism is a theological standpoint and not a philosophy or religion or belief. It would be like saying I killed someone because I dont believe in the tooth-fairy! If someone dresses up as a tooth fairy and I kill her, the diagnosis or motive is that I am insane and not that I dont believe in tooth-fairies.

vedaxcool: Anti - theism as a result of being an atheist!

Nope, that is a leap. The guy could have just been insane or molested by a religious woman in the past. You will always find it hard to put atheis as a motive for murder

vedaxcool: Oh poor thing, communism is an atheistic philosophy, and I see u have not really read on state atheism! When u have something sensible to bring then we can talk, as communist actively sort to abolish religion, in communist Russia atheism was actively promoted and religion was deliberately suppressed and in most cases killed off!

Communism itself can be described as a religion. Communism did not arise out of atheism- it is a result of wanting an orderly and classless society.

Please, what exactly is the difference between communism and religion? There are many religions without a God- Buddhism is one.


When will you accept that I'm smarter than you?

See these people lying and rejoicing at a false attempt to glorify the Koran.


Religion is pitiful.

If we destroy christianity, many aspects of paganism will disappear too!

Atheism will be the last man standing

ijawkid: Hehehehehe


U forget catholics read d latin vulgate not d bible......lol

So u never understood d bible my bro.......

U worshipped mary,believed in hell fire,purgatory and all d other crap............

Re-learn from d bible.....

Meanwhile frosbel put up a post for u guys u ran away.....

Go to that post and show ur strength not come here arguing with new comers.....

Oya follow me to that post....

Ode, catholics read the bible. The very bible you use was compiled by catholics. Ignorance

scribble: u really are quite the 'tard...how does logic even fit into your personna, ur name should be tard boy for easier ID

Keep scribbling away, with your pitiful ID, hypocrite

PLENTYNAIR: Then that means the only purpose for your life is leaving a wrong legacy for the next generation.
What a vision

Lol and what legacy can you leave in 10 days? 240 hours of which you will sleep 60 hours (6 hours a day) and 10 hours eating (1 hour a day)

lilkech: there are 4 characteristics of human behaviour that i have encountered personally.

There are cases of

people who dont know BUT say that they know

people who dont know AND say that they dont know

people who know BUT say that they dont know

and

people who know AND say that they know

from the above statements i have used my COMMON SENSE to deduce that any further argument with you would be a sweet waste of time because



ask yourself this question

WAS I AN ACTIVE CATHOLIC ?



let it not be because we are on NL and i asked that you would immediately run to google the different catholic church societies which you want me to believe that you were a part of then pasting a link for me as evidence cos i dont wanna know, na your mata . . . and I AM NOT GOING TO POST ON THIS THREAD AGAIN





and how did you know about african history ? Where did you learn it ? Who told you ?

was it not the same books that the slave masters introduced to us, same schools, same internet etc (refer to my first post on this thread) did your sponsors make a mistake by sending you to school ? They sent you there to broaden your horizons and NOT TO DISREGARD YOUR ROOTS because that is what you are doing, if not at LEAST you would have been an ordinary idol worshiper

were you there when it was happening ? Who 'alive' in this world was there when it was goin on ? or was it your fore-fathers that told you ? even if by chance one of your fore fathers decided to count and record exactly how many slaves , men or women, adults or children, boys or girls were traded and by which continent or country or religion by what boats or ships and on exactly what months of the year the trades were happening it would never be accurate . . . this point is not arguable because it is reasoned with common sense (i know that if you run to google now they will show you plenty results for you to READ)


it never occurs to you that the internet is controlled by the same slave masters themselves for whatever purpose they must be using it for right now (the web is used for far more 'stuffs' than you or i can ever understand)

i dont need to open any link you posted here because it would not 'SHOW' me anything i am interested in knowing . . . to me, 10% of what i READ and 30% of what i SEE on the net is accurate or real. the internet was invented not so long ago and i do not place much hope on what it would do for humanity (religiously) in the near future


THE BIBLE HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR AGES AND IT RECORDS SPECIFIC EVENTS WHICH EVEN OUT LIVE THE BIBLE ITSELF .


i can live with believing in the bible even if the same SLAVE MASTERS wrote it and gave it to me because it GIVES MY LIFE A PURPOSE AND MEANING. i cant wake up in the morning everyday thinking that once i die it would be as if everything about my essence just goes 'OFF' . . . cos thats what atheists believe

the big bang theory is what it is . . . A THEORY just like the BIBLE, so it is left for us human beings to use our own COMMON SENSE to take a side on the issue

i have taken mine and you have taken yours . . . we can never know who took the right or wrong sides in future because it is OUR PERSONAL MATER

so believe what you want to okay




the UNITED KINGDOM is comprised of many countries and each have their ways, tribes, governments, bounderies etc and they all have their different religions too which also affects their citizens moral culture and in turn affects their decisions towards things in their country and lives

are you trying to tell me that ALL cases of abuse in the UK gets checked ? Are you also implying that ALL cases of abuse goes unchecked in nigeria?

once again i urge you to apply common sense to your reasoning in future




it was useless of my assessing your mentality . . . it was almost a SWEET WASTE of my time

i know thehomer & muskeeto are your second 'mouths' on this forum

I should have known that you are insane. Muskeeto saw this earlier. To argue with you is like shouting at a rock.

Keep on being a slave to a religion that enslaved your forefathers and clearly supports slavery.

The next time you are in church, ask yourself three questions;

-Why is Jesus painted white in a country of over 90% black people?
-Why is did God talk to only people in the Middle east/North Africa throughout the bible (Did he forget that civilization started in Africa and that there was Asia and the Americas)
-Why are these ugly verse in the bible;



Leviticus 25:44
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.

1 Peter 2:18
"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

Titus 2:9
"Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them"

LagosShia: and what makes you think he isn't einstein?

and for you to make such silly analogy,einstein should have being someone who supports nudity.

Why would Einstein himself be naked?

PLENTYNAIR: THE DOCTORS LOOKED AT HIM AND SAID " TEN MORE DAYS".

WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU HAVE ONLY 10 DAYS TO LIVE?

-Snort cocaine

-F4ck as many girls as possible

-Eat as much food as possible

-Party hard

-Tell my family everything that needs to be said

-Throw a pig and a crate of beer in a mosque and run like the wind

-shit in a church

-Beat up one corrupt Nigerian politician and put it on youtube

-On the last day, I will do the thing I love best- playing my ps3

LagosShia: there could be.but for sure muslims are better behaved.at least statistics from countries with muslim majority show that.muslim societies have less cases of alcoholism,pr0stitution,ra.pe,robbery,$exual diseases,illegitimate children,homicide,suicide,e.t.c.

Suicide bombing isnt suicide? Where are the suicide bombers if not in your muslim countries?

Rape is everywhere- just under-reported in many Sharia countries!

Sexual diseases? Have you been to pakistan?

Honour killing that is common in Islamic societies nko?

LagosShia: i'm not an hater.im only being realistic to say the truth which you obviously do not like.

as for your curse,back to sender.

Why are you so scared? It's not a curse, it is a probability people travel more, people meet online etc. I wont mind if my daughter married someone of a different faith because I am not a bigot.


Seems that since you believe its a curse, it will haunt you everytime you hear that your daughter is dating. or if you dont have a daughter, maybe a niece or a sister or a grand-daughter.


Good to be an atheist- I dont believe in curses.

italo: @ Logicboy,

If I get you right, you worshipped the statues of Mary and probably of other saints but you didn't worship Mary herself or any saint.

Catholics in the UK are not idol worshippers but the ones in Nigeria are?

So what did you say to the statue/statues in prayer/worship?

How many Gods did you then have when you were in the Catholic Church?

Abeg......before you claim that I was a fake catholic....free me!

Image123: @logicboy
Secularism is the principle of [b]separation between government institutions and the persons mandated to represent the State from religious institutions and religious dignitaries.[/b]

This position is supported by christianity and by the Bible.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
The Bible asks christians to cooperate with and be subject to the government as much as they do not tell us to disobey God. It operates a separation from the 'world', yet an accomodating stance. That is secularism defined.
Secularism involves the right to freedom from governmental imposition of religion upon the people , political decisions should be unbiased by religious influence. Nigeria fits into this class. We operate freedom of religion, and a right to vote and be voted for irrespective of your religion. We currently have a president who says his religion is christianity, and a vice president who says he is muslim by religion. There is no country that does not have religious people, and Nigeria has a secular constitution.The nigerian law protects the rights of religious minorities. How oucan say nigeria is not secular baffles those who don't know better.

Sharia- theocracy

Governors donating public money to churches

LagosShia: LOL

he surely appreciates good things but he does not want to become good.and he sees nothing good in good and nothing bad in bad.

Bigot...like there are no muslim pr0stitutes? Or muslims are well behaved more than other religions?

LagosShia: thank God,she is now gone and no one to disturb you anymore.

Islam has its rules.if an arab muslim woman wants to marry a chinese,black or american,she is free to as long as the man is muslim.whatever nonsense she does out of wedlock or rules she does not follow,she is on her own.and i am sure you are talking of "some" as there are bad eggs everywhere.

Hater.....I will probably get married to a Buddhist or atheist or christian. However, if another muslim girl comes my way, I wont say no.......


As for you, I hope that your daughter or grand daughter falls in love with a non-muslim. How painful it will be for you.

LagosShia: ^^^^^^^

thank God,she is now gone and no one to disturb you anymore.

Islam has its rules.if an arab muslim woman wants to marry a chinese,black or american,she is free to as long as the man is muslim.whatever nonsense she does out of wedlock or rules she does not follow,she is on her own.and i am sure you are talking of "some" as there are bad eggs everywhere.

I hope your daughter/grand-daughter falls in love with an atheist so that you will regret your life.

chucky234: You be mumu,the post said Emmanuel TV channel which is on satellite viewed by more than 12 million people daily and you are talking of 3.5m tourists yearly. Pilgrim hold once in a year but foreign visitors troop into TB's church daily,so do the math for 365 days and come back.

TB Joshua is in church everyday? Or is he in Nigeria every sunday?

Your lies are catching up with you

By her failed logic, this guy is Einstein;

https://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PSO1213.jpg

LagosShia: you keep talking nonsense and crying over spilled milk.

the rules are there and muslims follow them.if you like them,good.if not,it is as simple as "go away" and leave us alone.

Muslims that drink alcohol are deceiving themselves and following what confused souls do to feel "cool".there is little or no benefit from drinking alcohol.as the Quran puts it beautifully,the harm is greater than the benefit.

afterall two wrongs do not make a right.you will never get a woman who is a practicing muslim from a muslim family that will marry you.find your kind who is an atheist.at least that will save your children from confusion and yourselves from heartache.you do not have to deceive yourself.face reality.it is better if you do not marry a muslim woman.not like you'd ever get one after which she can still boast of being muslim.

Money talks. Women in the West do not care if you are a satanist, they will have sex with you. Some Arab women that you see getting married to their fellow muslim Arabs have had a lot of $£x with black guys in London and New York before settling down.

Furthermore, my girfriend's parents live in the same town. If they did not, it would have been easier. That was why it was easy for my cousin- the girls parents were in America while my cousin in Scotland. They spent so much time in Scotland together.

Funny enough, I am not ready for marriage. still have a lot of money to make and women to.....



I am not disturbing any muslim, rather it was muslims that were disturbing because of my girlfriend!

italo: @ jmoore,

Save your reasoning for reasonable people.

Lol......kpele, I known that you are frustrated from all the intellectual punishment you have been getting from atheists. Sorry

lilkech: lol . . . where did all these numbers come from ? please try to type english and not BINARY for me, i aint a computer and neither are we trying to calculate how much our government intends to embezzle this year.

and please dont delude yourself, not even you can place a price on any HUMAN'S LIFE.

Statutory award for bereavement = £10,000 - £11,000 http://www.national-accident-helpline.co.uk/accident-claims/fatal-accidents.html

Number of slaves taken from Transatlantic slave trade = 12 million to America http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1523100.stm

I know that you're ignorant and that's why you dont know these things

lilkech: EITHER YOU ARE STILL A CATHOLIC OR YOU ARE NOT. or is it that you didnt attend 'bible school' to actually STUDY the bible ?

the bible is not a story or text book that you can study FULLY at home

I am not a catholic but I was for over 2 decades. To try and tell me that I am ignorant about the bible only shows how foolish you are

lilkech: which one be 'erm' ? shebi you like to talk as if you know all . . . so, please kindly share this little info with us . . .

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE ARABS WERE SLAVE TRADING BEFORE THE CHRISTIANS ?

I know because I am not ignorant of history, especially Nigerian history like you are (shame on you). Arab muslims were taking slaves from West Africa right from time. Furthermore, you need to read more.

http://africanhistory.about.com/od/slavery/a/IslamRoleSlavery01.htm

lilkech: my eyes hurt . . . this looks like pure gibberish to me

i really do not see any relevance that what you wrote above has with my question posted earlier . . . kindly EXPANTIATE

You need to read it again

lilkech: AND EXACTLY WHAT PROBLEMS ARE IN NIGERIA THAT IS NOT FOUND IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ? (this is a trick question, so answer with your BRAIN this time)

-A major problem with separation of church and state
-Pastor Happy slaps in public without arrest and conviction for assault. Why did Oyedepo not slap people in UK? Coward!