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It's plain old fact that the bible is littered with literal, historical, philosophical and logical contradictions.

Kobojunkie:
Again, the apocrypha is a collection of books. So I ask again, what particular book in the apocryphal collection are you referring to? None of the books I have studied, all part of the apocryphal, suggest that God and Satan are what you describe.

Fvck you're dense😄

Kobojunkie:
What do you mean by biblical apocrypha? Even the apocrypha is a collection of books so be specific about the name of the book abeg!

If you'd at least tried to use some more of your working braincells to apply the context of what u read in order to comprehend properly, maybe just maybe u might have comprehended properly. Unfortunately that's not your style, is it?! Instead u just jump in like a dog at a ball with half assed tangential contrary pov's hence no one on here takes you seriously. Maybe you can't help it as it's an itch u need to scratch like how persons with Parkinson's and Tourette's syndrome can't help the shake.

Even though subtle but with the context of my whole comment its obvious i was being quite literal and referring to the whole bible as apocryphal which are well known but unfounded stories and wasn't referring to any specific or collective non canonical texts. Maybe i should have worded it differently for the pedants 🙄.

If you read the biblical apocrypha you'ld find out they are two sides of the same coin especially the old testament. Narcissistic, vengeful, full of anger, hypocritical, are words that decribes the actions of both in the torah, so basically both sides of the same coin(isaiah 45 v 7). Although one is seemingly more powerful but for some reason can't end the less powerful one. Like a fox going to kill and steal a farmer's chicks from their pen but instead of the famer outrightly killing the fox, he brings it to live in the pen with the chicks and then gets angry at the chicks for getting eaten, knowing they are weaker by design. Make it make sense. A tiny drop of logic and it all crumbles like a drop of water to tissue paper.

Dtruthspeaker:
Fool, To be loyal to God above all else is a virtue.

🤭 You don't say!

Dtruthspeaker:
Then you have no right to eat chicken, goats, cow and co. fool. So from today, eat dust and stones and sand all the days of your miserable life.

Damn!🤦🏽 Talk about a daft strawman. U have exceptional experience so im sure uld definitely beat me at this game of raw display of stupidity.

Dtruthspeaker:
See fool complaining because i destroyed his stupid anti God beliefs to the point that you were looking for any stupid argument to make even when the argument was offpoint and disconnected. So here you are crying because YOU ARE FAIILURE!

😄😄😄
See "Christain" on a Sunday. You make it too easy not to take you guys seriously. What happened to your "christ like virtues". E loss?! 😄

plessis:
Look at the way the lion brutally devour the sheep and remind me how your God is a loving God.

If you look at the whole design of the ecosytem, taxonomy and food chain from top to bottom you would be forgiven for calling it sadistic. A very sad probablility game of living things competing for resources for survival and self preservation leading to and enabling the dark tendencies of all players. The porcupine is designed with powerful spikes to deter attackers, then its attackers like the hyena's designed with powerful jaws to power through the spikes with determination leaving everything to chance and a numbers game of probability. Looks a sadistic design to me so i totally get where u are coming from with the sadistic jab at the designer.

plessis:
You fools prophesy like God is your village uncle or native doctor.
I'm preparing jollof rice rn. I'll snap and send to you to prove that you are just a loud emptyhead.

He's a well known mo.ron here. Tell him to defend his beliefs now and watch him babble nonsense then when u have him in a corner he'll run away from the convo. Their bible says pray for your enemies but see the dross coming out of the mouth of the fool of a "Christain". Funny thing is they expect u to take their joke of a religion seriously.

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Calitoscassius:
And questionable quotes and events. Events that cannot be proven that they ever happened.

The events bro they're are something thing else. Doesn't add up neither is it feasible, written about some of them on here and u find the responses by christains to answer these plot holes really baffling. Funny thing is u find some of these biblical events in other mesopotanian religions that are older.

At first i stopped because of the hypocrisy, so i told myself people would always be flawed no matter. Then i did the know God for urself thing and studied... not just read the bible. Totally stopped going after reading/ studying the bible for myself and also the context around it. Full of major plot holes and contradictions. Shattered my faith basically. According to Robert Langdon "I've not been blessed with the gift of faith".

Floky215:
Even the devil himself would disown this lie...!!

What an audacious lie...!!!

Righthussle:
This man just has a way of annoying me. Which kain mumu lie be this.

Nah he's obviously not lying, i doubt he has a reason to. He's just delusional.

UptownVibes:
You got exactly what you deserved,and I can see that you're at sea.
I'm not the cause of your melancholic mood o ..
I'll advice you to go and look for solution to your problems, and stop messing around here... Bye!

Go educate urself instead of embarassing urself confidently spouting dross. 😕 Na really "loudy".

[quote author=UptownVibes post=128428630][/quote]Evidence of a shallow mind, insults come easier than defending the point. Then again how does extroversion = "loudy". Hubris.

UptownVibes:
Introversion is not weakness.. Being Lousy(extroverts) doesn't make you powerful either. Be wise!

How does extroversion = lousiness 🤦🏽. Confidence in ignorance.

Illegal1:
omoh.........abeg tell us, who's an introvert?

You've got internet access right?? Tell me what u find, ill add to it.

Most of you have access to the internet yet can't simply check out for yourselves what introversion is, claiming nonsense as introversion, quite sad. You've got anti social issues and extremely poor social skills that's not introversion.

Dtruthspeaker:
1). Yes, He does

2). Yes, a man can see God and many people did see God.

Fair enough. Can u provide bible verses to back it?

Dtruthspeaker:
It is free from contradictions reflecting the material substamces which prove a fact is True

A simple litmus test then. Remember our debacle where u were waffling about God changing his mind?? Ill ask you just two questions.

1. Does God change his mind??
2. Can a man see God/ Has any man seen God?

Lets begin with this 2.

Jokerman:
Please Sir, the Bible never pretended to be a science book.

The Bible is the word of God

I totally get where you're coming from but here's my case, if it's solely the word of God shouldn't it be free from plot holes and contradictions?

Dtruthspeaker:
This thread answers you.

https://www.nairaland.com/7988724/moon-shrinking-researchers-reveal-reasons#128247191

11:20am On Feb 02
What is our problem if the moon is shrinking.
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Re: Moon Is Shrinking, And Researchers Reveal Reasons by WayStage(m): 11:56am On Feb 02
Moon is shrinking? Who observe am abeg? Wetin concern the observer?
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Re: Moon Is Shrinking, And Researchers Reveal Reasons by ironheart(m): 11:56am On Feb 02
Na dollar dey worry us. We never eat well to think of moon
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Re: Moon Is Shrinking, And Researchers Reveal Reasons by Vlibray: 11:56am On Feb 02
Wetin we dey find for moon 😒

This funny guy...
Please how does this serve any purpose in relation to the above?? If you're referring me to the comments, the fact ones circumstances exercerbates the need to wallow in ignorance doesn't mean its applicable to all. Situations differ.

Jokerman:
All these atheistical dumb questions.

The Bible is not written as a science book...

What matters from the Bible is that you know who God is, how to live your life as God wants it and His purpose of salvation

First off im not an atheist to ask " atheistical" questions. Secondly if its not a science book, it shouldn't pretend to be one and then give us a certain pov that crumbles like water to tissue paper under simple facts and logic. Quite simple.

incogni2o:
I guess you'll say with comprehension problem, I also have a problem with passing my points across

Firstly I mean't Pluto has been disqualified for being a planet but as a dwarf planet. moreto that, we have 5 dwarf planets in the solar system. Point being that Planet is a Scientific word for celestial bodies that meet up to a certain criteria.

1. It must orbit a star (in our cosmic neighborhood, the Sun).
2. It must be big enough to have enough gravity to force it into a spherical shape.
3. It must be big enough that its gravity has cleared away any other objects of a similar size near its orbit around the Sun.

Sorry about my harshness about your physics teacher, My own Physics teacher was that knowledgable though now google has some more knowledge about astronomy, see below

It was an error and made a mistake emphasizing my point, had already edited my comment to reflect that. Point still stands, its quite simple really. Agreed about pluto. I don't see how delving into the semantics of what a planet is drives ur point across or even further😕

LordReed:
The fact is all human works are limited by the extent of human knowledge. If the Bible were just written today, it would include mentions of DNA, black holes and other scientific discoveries. Alas it was written in the times when the knowledge of the universe had not advanced and so all the characters in the book could only speak with the voice of that limitation.

Today ask any believer if their god can reveal any specific information that they are not already privy to and watch them mumble some tired apologetic.

Nail on the head, apt as fvck, simple as ABC. If the story was divinely inspired it'll mention all these things as the divine would reveal it but its not ergo limited by the extent of human knowledge as yoy said. They thought a building was going to reach God in the sky for crying out loud... Limited by knowledge, quite simple.

incogni2o:
Of what importance is mentioning Mercury, or Venus, or Pluto (which Scientists are disqualifying for not meeting up with the criteria of being a Planet).

Do you know how many celestial bodies orbit the Sun and you say none of them is visible from earth?

The Planets aren't visible to the naked Eyes?

Your physics teacher obviously didn't teach you to that point. Mercury, Venus, Mars,Jupiter, Saturn or Callisto - Jupiter's moon aren't visible to the naked eyes?

Of what importance is mentioning the celestial bodies when no form of life is found in any of them?

Seems you are actually insincere with your Ask.

Like i earlier stated comprhension seems to be a big task for you or you are being purposefully obtuse and thats sad. So let me ELI5 for you so you can maybe come up to speed. "Of what importance is mentioning Mercury, or Venus, or Pluto (which Scientists are disqualifying for not meeting up with the criteria of being a Planet).

Its news to me mecury and venus are no longer planets, not on my internet space at least. Maybe you educate me with some fact checking articles, what do you say?? The bible narrates how the world was formed and you ask me of what importance are the vital elements of that world that were left of the narration. If you can't realise how dense that question makes you look im sorry. Who narrates a story and leaves out key chapters and elements in that story.?? What developer presents his software and leaves out the slides discussing the UI/UX??What chef talks through her recipe and leaves out key elements that make up that recipe?? What conductor, conducts an orchestra with key instruments missing??

"Do you know how many celestial bodies orbit the Sun and you say none of them is visible from earth? The Planets aren't visible to the naked Eyes?" Told you, you've clearly got comprehension issues and it's more severe than i first thought. Please point me to where i said that (1st sentence). Can you see Uranus with your naked eyes or you got telescopes for eyes?? maybe if you bend down but i doubt u can see that far. You can look up with ur naked eyes and point me uranus in the skies?? I love to have your eyes then.

"Your physics teacher obviously didn't teach you to that point. Mercury, Venus, Mars,Jupiter, Saturn or Callisto - Jupiter's moon aren't visible to the naked eyes?" They are visible if youve got context. Now i think you're been purposefully obtuse. That's the point i made all along that they aren't visible to the naked eyes considering the conext of the time period ergo those who wrote the bible couldn't see them and include them in the stories. The divine that was to help them out as the story is divinely written also failed to tell them of that vital part. Same point i made earlier and you making me repeat myself. And its news to me the nuances of astronomy are taught in physics, i always thought they were taught in something called astronomy. Then again maybe you're from a public school and things are different there.

If you don't know what a lexus is and have never seen one and a friend takes you to a point far off and across from a parking lot with toyotas and lexuses anf then asks you what you see. You'd say toyotas of course. "Of what importance is mentioning the celestial bodies when no form of life is found in any of them?" Are u having a laugh?? You showed me scriptures mentioning celestial bodies above. Why mention those ones mentioned in the quoted scriptures since no form of life is found on them?? lol! Or weren't you the one that quoted those scriptures up there with celestial bodies mentioned??