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Mr President: I am from the tribe of Yehuda.

I am a lawgiver

Tribe of Yehuda?
So you are not African?

harlos: Allahu akbar!!!

The child has a creepy disfigurement not any Allah akbar

Wats for sure is that they oppose christianity.
Their deity is baphomet aka Moloch who's origin is from canaanland, he is among the Gods and Children of El Elyon, and A brother of Yahweh.
Moloch was the deity that the bull idol was carved for as that's his symbol and representation- The idol carved in Exodus
And in Greek he is known as Remphan

Christians began to call this deity a demon of the devil like they do with our Nigerian deities, but it's not a demon or the devil, it's a God.

The Europeans and Americans in this Freemason seem to have reformed Moloch worship into wat it is now.

Somali King: Probably bad...people will be angry...not because you are youruba but because the dont like pagan stuff...even if it was christian or jew they will be angry.....most somalis are very devote muslims they will nof accepte even our old pre islamic religion to be practiced.....anyway i think that everyone should be free to practice his religion or to be atheist

Ok. I understand, different people with different mind set

But if thats the case I would flee and return back to my home in Nigeria were am free to construct Anything in my compound

Somali King: What question? Sorry i probably did not see it..can you repeat?

Lets say I choose to migrate to Somalia, I get an apartment and construct an altar dedicated to the primordial forces of my Yoruba tradition.
When people get to know about this, what would be their reaction?

kalufelix: geh geh!
devil sef don broke

Wetin concern,your devil with this one

rozayx5: abeg make them no do

Proudly akwa ibomite

I like this guy
Carry on ...

Somali king You never answered my question

harbiola1: And why would somebody just come in order to unsubstantialy dispprove what i regard?

We all have an ideology which could be conflicting, Christians disapprove your Islam, Islam disapprove Buddhism

The bolded is due to ur ideology which opposes mine. I'm A Yoruba, yet one thing unite me with the world.

You are Yoruba by ancestral bloodline which is a result of the natural selection attribute of the universe- this is what Yoruba call "Ipin" which brings me to Ifa Orunmila as "Eleri Ipin" which means 'witness to the natural selection' That is why Ifa is an object of prophecy and fulfillment of destiny.
This is what your ANCESTORS who have kept your bloodline Have Practiced for millennias

My deen is what i'm, and urs should be what u're. You're the one that turned apostate.

You are born Yoruba and it is your duty to live Yoruba and die Yoruba. Not to be Arab slave

Well, i knew u can't understand.

Understand wat? That you are brainwashed to think Arabs are pure breeds of higher traditions, Culture and Language that you worship the creator as they demand you. While dumping the worship system of Your Tribe

What is paganism? The act of directing worship to Idols. What is spirituality?
The inner struggle to connect with God through fulfiling religious duties. Because it seems you do not know this, answer the question let's see.

Paganism is practicing your tribal and ethnic culture, traditions and spirituality, Paganism is the default nature of Man
That is why I say everyone is born a pagan.
Use of idols is only an attribute in paganism not that it is Paganism

Spirituality is superior to religion, you do not restrict spirituality to the confines of religious doctrines.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality

Because i've been using the two words interchangably? I was only trying to make myself clear. lol, as if u know that there is nothing spiritual about paganism. there's nothing Islamic I do not understand, it is you who doesn't understand your ancestors You don't know anything.

You don't know the meaning of the two words, and don't know how to use them in a sentence.

Paganism is an encompass of Culture, Tradition, Spirituality and Language.

I don't understand my ancestors So it's you dat understands them, right? You who disgrace them, You who call them worshipers of dead men
Pls you should release yourself from confusion.
Pray to Esu lalu to give you understanding and release you from confusion.

Divepen: The Holyspirit is the force driving the miracle they perform in the name of Jesus

Then You are only a hypocrite to accuse other people of demon inspiration

[quote author=Gov Wahala]Oh am seeing this late.
U need ref - here is it
Psalm 14 vs 1- The fool will say in his heart there is no God. psalm 53 vs 1- The fool have said in his heart there is no God, corrupt are they and have done abominable iniquity.
That's from the bible.
Now from me any body that doubt the existence of God is very daft. Give a logical explanation to your existence and hw u came to be, not that uncertain terms used by science and scientist.[/quote]Pagan 9ja doesn't fall in your Bible category. So you a fail

www.nairaland.com/1577497/god-science

Abiola you claim The Yoruba ancestors started honoring one God. Well I can't say No to that cause I wasn't there but Spirituality is built on philosophy and astrological research and observation.
Spirituality is bound to evolve as adherents gain a new understanding of the universe. From the discovering of Iron matter to Frozen Hydros Our ancient fathers learnt more about the universe on a daily basis before coming to the conclusion of A creator(Olodumare) with 400 children(Orisha)
Read the link above

texanomaly: This is interesting. I don't suppose non-Yoruba people can attend. I would like to see this, and other festivals this coming year. If that is possible? I hope I am not being disrespectful.

are you thinking of attending one of our festivals?

lekkie073: I still have a friend whose surname is esugbayi....don't tell me esu is devil o.

Esu is nothing like the Christian devil.

I've personally met Esu devotees

"Agba"? That is she was born as an Aje
I heard children like that are possessed with wondering souls at the mother's pregnancy.
She's truly super-human. But it's likely for her to be hated with this kind of news

harbiola1: Wait o, who owns the thread, and who intervene in what [s]he didn't regard?

we all know you don't regard Yoruba spirituality.

I should repent?

My identity is Islam. Islam is natural.

The father of Yorubas was a Muslim and was never a Pagan like you. Paganism/Spirituality that u're practicing was inspired by satan to alter the monotheistic ideology of Yoruba ancestor.

Your natural identity- which you were ordained by the natural selection of the universe is Yoruba, Ibadan to be precise. Your tribal and ethnic identity is what you are, you only deny it.

Who is the father of Yorubas? How can he be Muslim when this land has been occupied for thousands of years before Mohammed was even born

What is paganism? What is spirituality?
Because it seems you do not know this, answer the question let's see.

I won't be surprised if u don't understand.

there's nothing Islamic I do not understand, it is you who doesn't understand your ancestors

I'm not ridiculing Yoruba and i'll never do.
You're the one that's ridiculing ur creator by worshiping non-existing deities and attribute the role of the creator to them. You're a Muslim and never a pagan by birth. Stop this ur spiritual delusions.

FOLYKAZE: I don't have authority on what I say here and note that I am not saying am right or wrong about it.

A babalawo once told me about some Odu Ifa that speak about the details of other spirituality. Odu Otua tell somethings about Islam; verses on Christianity are found in Odu Oturupon just like we have Sango in Odu Okanran and Ifa basically is in Eji Ogbe.

I cant say specifically if those verses were added nor do I know details of the specific corpus. But I think Ifa cover many other spirituality.

Yes I suspect some contents might be added over the years. that's very much possible

Arcsniper: So what will happen to children given birth to after rapture or there won't be anything like that??
Everyday people give birth.
Millions of people are ready to give birth today. So lets assume Jesus came today,whats will happen to those pregnant people AND THE NEWBORN BABIES.I MEAN AFTER RAPTURE AND NOT DURING RAPTURE

Na gbege for the new born baby. Because he has just be born into a world of suffering and torment

Somali King: We have a little arab admixture but we are mainly cushitic....for example also swahili speaking people in kenya are muslim and have some arab blood but they are still BLACK with bantu origin
the same for southern italians and spanish people some of them have little arab admixture but they ate still Whites

Anyway i know that somalia and nigeria have different cultures and languages but it does not mean that we have to hate each other

So we are african brothers and we should help our continent to develop

Africa is a very diverse continent even within cushiti people there are difference
Somalis can not undrestand Oromo language except for a few words
same for Afar language even though both these languages are cushitic

Oromo has many amharic words and Somali has many arabic words

Anyway WE ARE NOT ARAB we share some similarities with arabs because of religion but we are not arab

I agree Somalis are our brothers by racial grouping that is....however you Somalis have a stronger allegiance with Arabs than you can ever have with the larger part of Africa.

It's a fact and the whole world knows it, Somalia is more or less like an Arab colony.

So If I migrate to Somalia and construct an altar dedicated to Ogun(A pagan deity) I won't be criticized for practicing my tradition?

Emaanye: The. Word oduduwa is an igala word meaning he comes from God but the truth is that the yorubas inherit fear from Oduduwa when he came to Idah he was running away from his brother so out of fear he refuse to talk so the igalas called him oduduwa. He later married one of them if u look at yoruba nupe igala and benin there is a connection am not an Igala nor Yoruba but these is the truth ask any Igala to explain the meaning of Oduduwa

Hmm. So are you saying Oduduwa was igala man or he just stayed in igala territory and married there?

Macelliot: I once say it again.
May the wrath of GOD befall you for condeming thy name of the Lord.

Mark my words.
May GOD ALMIGHTY forgive You.

Are you torn between two personalities?

Macelliot: The return of Jesus Christ shall be witnessed in every corner of the world.

Pls answer my questions.
Do you take them literally?
The angels on horse back coming out of the sky

zazi akoni: lyk seriously? so taye and kehinde is bad

You shouldn't mind the psycho, that's wat you get for reasoning without the regular extent of the brain

[quote author=tpia@]Op are you well?[/quote]Are you asking if christianity has finally driven him insane?

highyo: The way you will all respond to this question will determine the answer I will give you.

WHAT HAS BEWITCHED ALL OF YOU, THAT WILL NOT WANT TO NAME YOUR CHILDREN

ACHAN
JUDAS
JEZEBEL
SAUL
BALAAM
BALAK
JABEZ
SAMBALAT
TOBIAH
GOLIATH
KORAH
ABIRAM
DATHAN
BEELZEBUB
ASTARETH
BAAL
MAGOG
DAGON
AND THEIR OGA PATATA LUCIFER ?

IF YOU TELL ME WHY YOU CANT NAME YOUR CHILDREN THESE NAME
THEN I WILL TELL YOU WHY YOU CANT GO ON BEARING NAMES LIKE

OSUN
OJO
IFA
OGUN
SANGO
TAYE
KEHINDE
IYABO.
IDOWU
YETUNDE
BABATUNDE
YEWANDE
IGE
OROBIYI
ETC

Why should a Yoruba bear any of the bolded names?

When we have names of virtue like
Fadesewa
Adedapo
Obafemi
Osunbiyi
Osunrewa
Adimula
Moremi
Fabunmi
Awolowo
Abiola
Oloruntobi
Oyindamola
Lamidi
Sijuwade
Olusegun
Olukoso
Lisabi
Oduwole


You know wat you are? You are a JEWISH SLAVE
You should change your name away from Ayo to Yisak or something

Mtcheww!!! Rubbish

mitey: ^^^ Thanks for the contribution. However, I believe @Macof is a traditionalist/pagan, and so has limited understanding of the scriptures.

Really? but I fit give your pastor Bible lessons

Adeebiwa09: .
Apostle, calm down so make we jst dy pour evrytin inside make we dy born any aw. Kai! Al ds ISOLATED scriptures. Did u read d part dat says if any man cannt provid 4 hs aushold e s worst dan an infidel, gv birth 2 chldren u can raise. So if withdrawal s ur way of 'family planing' gud. And 2 d story of Judah and hs 3 sons onan dnt want 2 raise chldren 4 hs brother hs actn was nt based on f.p or anyoda ryt reason bt evil so nobody go die as abv

Ah! If Jehovah dey kill for spilling fluid you must pour everything deep inside, empty your gallon

But since Onan wasn't interested in raisin kids, he was just in it for the pleasure same thing you get from mouth service

harbiola1: Because i don't belong to ur school of thought?

The bolded doesn't matter.

You pagan hypocrite! So you can tell me to leave Ifa alone?

What was these forces' names before any of these men existed, Sango in particular?

Whatever! I think ur own knowledge is unlimited?

But u can bring Spirituality ideas into Islam?

You don't mean it! What makes it ahead?

What do you know about God?

You make sense only to urself.

As I said you don't bring religion into spirituality.
Yoruba spirituality is on a higher level of understanding and uinteractions with primordial forces than Islam.
As OlaoChi said you only bringing Islamic ideas into your interpretation of stories you don't regard.

Sango was called Jakuta, before that called Aramfe

You better repent and Accept your identity and stop parading with this Yoruba worship dead men as God idea just in a bid to ridicule Yoruba

Pastor Olu T: Look at my definition of faith again, I dint just say its expectations or trying to balance whatever. Its expectation n seeing that which u expect become reality 'cos the mighty power behind it, thus a spiritual thing (I tot u said u believe in the spiritual?).

Now u say faith is baseless, its not bro 'cos u actually believed that what u believe will surely come to pass 'cos of the supernatural power of God (the question should rather be, does it work?).

Now faith dont work with logic, in fact it negate logic, like I said earlier on it is "seeing then believing" of which I am a witness.

You think spirituality deals with faith? Hell No! Most spiritual philosophies preach consciousness and self enlightenment- you don't need to believe anything from someone or something for No reason.

Faith isn't fulfillment and doesn't end with fulfillment, only Expectation does. Faith tries to push fiction to become fact and reality. Linking Faith to Fulfillment is illusion, because anything could be responsible for fulfillment. I think you confusing Hope and Expectation with Faith
Pls answer this
If Your sister is sick you call pastor to pray knowing his prayers have worked before, wat do you call that state of mind?

you searching for your lost sim card you have no idea where it is but you really need it badly or you would be in big trouble, wat do you call that?

mitey: I am glad you brought up that verse, I have been waiting for someone to bring it up since...

The reason God slew Onan was because of his wickedness. Back then in the land of Israel, it was customary for the brother of a dead man to sleep with his widow in order to raise children for him(the dead man). But Onan was wicked and decided instead to spill the fluid.

In fact the reason why this particular passage is interesting is because it is actually pro-contraceptive. To the best of my knowledge, this is the only place in the Bible where spilling of fluid is mentioned. It appears to have been common-knowledge in that era for a commoner such as Onan to be so skilled in performing it.

Despite being somewhat common, we didn't hear of anyone else being punished for engaging in that. In fact if not that Onan had applied the method out of wickedness, it may never have been recorded in the Bible.

In shorter words it's ok to spill the fluid?

Macelliot: May the wrath of GOD befall you for laying false accusation against HIS beloved Son.
Mark my word, but I pray that the obtacles blocking your consience will break inorder for you to realise your mistake before it is too late.
Jesus' kingdom is not of this world, because the kingdom of this world lies in the hands of the evil one.
If you want to follow Jesus, you must deny the love & pleasure of this world.
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HYMN SONG
[color=orange]Lamb of GOD, You takes away thy sins of thy world have mercy on us.[/color]
Holy Holy Holy is GOD ALMIGHTY.
Heaven & Earth is full of Your Glory.
Hossana in the Highest.
Blessed is He who comes in thy name of the Lord.
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The Man-of-sin(antichrist) shall appear, he will decieve the people of the world. He will control the world through commerce(buying & selling). He will give the world the symbol of the beast(666). He will rule for 1290-days(42 months), but the wrath of GOD shall befall the inhabitant of earth like sodom and gommorah, that is the War of Armageddon. World war III.
The Heavenly armies will descend on earth and GOD'S people will ascend into heaven. The sun & the moon will cease to shine, the stars will fall, destruction will loom the people of the world with the beast mark and the world will come to an end.
The dead shall rise again, judgement of the living & the dead, anyone whose name is not found in the Lamb book of Life shall be thrown into the lake of fire.
Heaven is real and Hell is real.
may u never be lost in Jesus' name I pray.

Do you take these stories of angels coming with swords and horses literally? And resurrection of long dead people as in men of 2000yrs ago walking again like zombies?

mitey: ^^^ Thanks for your contribution. But you've brought in a new angle.

Why should the man be careful not to spill the semen outside the vagin.a?

Genesis 38:8-10 "And Judah said to Onan, go in unto thy brother's wife and marry her and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; so when he went in unto his brother's wife he spilled it[sperm] on the ground, lest he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the Lord, wherefore he slew him.."

So your Bible God doesn't like spilled Semen, be careful lest you die