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Olu317:
Lol So it suddenly slipped off your mind that the Dawaodu Ie mentioned which you claimed isnt David doesn't exist anymore in your head ? No wonder you seek knowledge yet you remain cunny.

As far as I am concerned, you don't beyond this stage with unless you answer the questions I asked you when i replied to your gibberish.

Mr. Man just stop embarrassing yourself. Its OK if you can't address something.. Leave it and move on

Olu317:
Lol. I know you wont understand a simple leeway. Therefore, read Ancient Egyptians and Modern Yoruba : Phonetic Regualrby Théophile Obenga.

2. Ellis, A.B., The Yoruba speaking people of slave coast of West Africa, their religion customs, manners, laws ,language etc anthropological publishers

Note: Unless you respond to my questions in the previous posts, I won't entertain your views anymore.

another poor attempt
I am aware of Obenga 's ancient Egyptian - sub saharan Africa common origin hypothesis using certain words.
He never restricted his words list to Yoruba alone. He mentions Egyptian connection to all of Africa not just Yoruba

Rendering your claims of yoruba being of non-African origin essentially invalid if he is your source. you should tell me the real source of your claims

Also you have posted his list before and I already pointed out problems with it :
the yoruba part of his list gives wrong translations into english eg.
bà is not germinate
Bùsi is not bless
Bọ́sé is not secretly
Bùsà is not honor or respect
And its Ọtí not Bọ́ti


this is the word list from Obenga and it is clearly not the Egyptian-Yoruba wordslist i asked a source for. This is a different list
www.nairaland.com/attachments/7782794_img20180915115237_jpeg3a3eefc25dab5ae83ebefeb30bbdad3f


I asked you for the source of this

Olu317:
6. Yoruba language is Coptic Egyptian's in the same way you found it in Bini, Dahomey. What is Coptic Language ? it is a ritual ancient Christian language that was spoken in Egypt at a time in history. Bro,try to learn how to juxtapose with civility and uprightness. Below are:

COPTIC EGYPTIAN'S IN COMPARISON WITH LANGUAGE YORUBA COGNATE

1. Egypt. Wu (rise)
Yoruba: Wu (rise)

2. Egypt: Akhat(calendar, season, period) aha-t
Yoruba : Wakati (time, period, season)

3. Egypt: Eaure (Python / Serpent)
Yoruba: Ere (gigantic snake,python/ Serpent)

4. Egypt: HOrise (a great god) it is Heru (horus is greek name for Heru) why capitalize the O?
Yoruba: Orisha,risha,oritse,orise (a great god,ancestors, head, patrilineal or matrilineal ancestors)


5. Egypt: group of worshiper Sen (group of worshipers)
Yoruba: Sin,Si,sen (assemblage of worshippers to worship)


6. Egypt: Ged (to chant) hak/hek
Yoruba: Ogede, Igede (a chant)

7. Egypt:Ta (sell / offer)
Yoruba: Ta (sell/offer)

8. Egypt: Sueg (a fool)
Yoruba: Suegbe (a fool)

9. Egypt: On ( living person)
Yoruba: One ( living person)

10. Egypt: Kum (a club)
Yoruba: Kumo( a club)

11. Egypt:Enru (fear / terrible)
Yoruba: Eru (fear / terrible

12. Egypt: Kun / qun (brave man)
Yoruba: Okun, Ekun (,strength, bold, brave man)


13. Egypt: Odonit (festival) Heb
Yoruba: Odon , odun (festival)

14. Egypt: Ma or mi (to breath) teper
Yoruba : mae, Mi (to breathe )

15.Egypt: Tebu (a town)
Yoruba: Tebu(a town)

16. Egypt: Adumu (a water god) Ur-Henu .... there is no Adumu in Egyptian religion nice try
Yoruba: Adumu (a water venerated deity)

17. Egypt: Khu (to kill) Spirit not "to kill"
Yoruba: Ku (die)

18. Egypt Rekha (knowledge}
Yoruba: rikha, re ka(to be able to read ; knowledgeable)

19. Egypt : Hika (evil) it means magic, Divine power
Yoruba: Ika,uka (evil , wickedness, wicked,

20. Egypt : Mhebi (humble)
Yoruba: Mebi, humble to ones family

20. Egypt: Sata (perfect)
Yoruba: Santan (perfect)

21 Egypt: Unas (lake of fire)
Yoruba: Una, Ina, na, (fire,light)

22. Egypt: Tan (complete)
Youba: Tan (complete,finished,)

23.Beru (force of emotion)
Yoruba: Beru (,tremble, fear)

24. Egypt: Em (smell)
Yoruba: Emi (smell)

25.Egypt: Pa (open)
Yoruba: Pa (break open) what yoruba do you speak? how is "pa" = break open

26. Egyt: Bi (to become)
Yoruba: Bi (to give birth, to become)

27/Egypt: Heqet-Re (frog deity) it is simply Heqet...not Heqet-re
Yoruba: Ekere (the frog)

28. Egypt: Feh (to go away)
Yoruba: Feh (to blow away)

29. Egypt: Kot (build)
Yoruba: Ko (build)

30. Egypt: Kot (boat)
Yoruba: Oko (boat)

31 Egypt: Omi (water)
Yoruba: Omi (water)


32.Egypt : Ra (time)
Yoruba: Ira (time)

34 Egypt: Oni (title of Osiris)
Yoruba : Oni (title of the king of Ife)

35.Egypt: Budo (dwelling place)
Yoruba: Ibudo,Budo (dwelling place)


36 Egypt: Dudu (black image of Osiris)
Yoruba: Dudu (black person)

37. Egypt: Un (living person)
Yoruba: Uni, unea, eni (living person, individual person)

38. Egypt: Ra (possess)
Yoruba: Ra (possess/buy)


39.Egypt: Beka (pray/confess)
Yoruba: Be or ka (to pray or confess)

40.Egypt: Po (many)
Yoruba: Po (many/cheap)

41. Egypt: Horuw (head) middle Egyptian Oruwo
Yoruba: Horuw,Orun, (head) Ori

42.Egypt: Ash (invocation)
Yoruba: Ashe (invocation,authority)

44Egypt: Aru (mouth)
Yoruba: Arun, anu (mouth )

45.Egypt: Do (river) Iteru
Yoruba: Odo (river)

46.Egypt: Do (settlement)
Yoruba: Ido, Udo,Do (settlement)

47. Egypt: Bu (a place)
Yoruba: Bu ,a place


48.Egypt: Khepara (beetle) Khepri
Yoruba: Apakara, Akpakara (beetle)

49. Egypt: Ra -Shu (light after darkness)
Yoruba: Uran-shu, Ora shu, Oru shu, (the sunlight is dim, he sun light of the moon, night time when light has dimmed)

50 Egyt: Run-ka (spirit name) there is nothing like Run-ka, just Ka and it means Divine power, what yoruba call Ase
Yoruba:Oruko, ruko(name)

51 Egypt: Aru (rise)
Yoruba: Ru, a ro, ro (rise up)


52.Egyot: Ma (to know)
Yoruba: Ma (to know)

53. Egypt: Mu (water)
Yoruba:Mu, omi, ( water)

Neither Obenga nor Ellis are your source. Try again, the third time

Olu317:
You seem to be intellectually dehydrated because, I responded to your ignorance because, you claimed Dawaodu is not tenable but David. Unfortunately for your type,there is no ‘ v' in ‘WaW', except the one which was later created through interpretation of Septuagints that spread to Europe.

I didn't go topic. So stop lying.

Obviously you have no clue to the questions I asked you in my reply. Thus, I won't give you anymore audience unless you answer my questions as well. Afterwards, you seek knowledge that seem strange to you.


Note: note my fault but yours

Lmao this guy is a real clown

When did I talk about David with you. Are you on drugs or something? I spoke of the "descent from heaven" being a part of yoruba tradition and you started talking about English and Semitic inscription, now David

Come on get outta here if you don't have anything to say again as usual. It's not by force to pitch a reply, when you have no actual response.
Bloody clowns embarrassing themselves

Drizzy5001:
idiot way go school I don see you na, mumu man.

Like I said. You are just an illiterate online troll

Drizzy5001:
Ogun state"The Skull Mining Centre" of Nigeria Some one said if u visit that city u go just dey passive Strong odour ... Even the door handles wey dey their govt house was made of skull or has a symbol on it.

Perceive

Go to school you said no. It's a career in online trolling you chose

Olu317:
1. Stop being ignorant If your understanding of English language does not conform with Semitic inscription. This doesn't mean the comparative analysis is not false.

2. I didn't take Muhammad Bello's account as the bais because Ahmed Baba wrote it first in 17th century and not just Muhammad Bello's account of 19th century. Lol

4. Ifaodu is the accurate word from the Semitic inscription which I have read and not Odu ifa. This doesn't mean Oduifa is not also used as a West Africa entry. In near East account, Ifa is prefix in this regard. But what does Ifa mean, since you have knowledge of it?

b. Ifaodu is beyond history, herbology. So try to understudy through Ifaodu priest: Olifa or Alufa or Onifa .

Ephod is not a garment but to cast lot.

Raml : Arabic
Urim: Hebrew
Ramiela; orunmiela
From the above the three have related root.

c. What about the left dancing ?
What about the bowing of one's two knees while the two hands are raised up in worship of Ela; as an initiate when you pray before your Ifaodu calabash ?

d. Hebrews and Arab are related ,so don't doubt the link between the two. Interestingly, even the biblical written research work proved that some words were borrowed from Arabic words.

Are you even aware that nearly all Yoruba daily words were drawn from Arabic roots ?

It is true, that in West Africa we have Iha, Ifa, Afa, fa amongst the Igbo, Fon, Ewe, Edo in the same way fa is found in North Africa. So it is not new whence you teach people part of religion despite the fact that they are not Yoruba ethnically linked group. Unfortunately for you, non of these non of the people have boldly came up to showcase this religion jn western world as Yoruba's Ifaodu that's respected .

Are you even aware that Western scholars claimed Ifaodu is learned or taught by Arabs to yoruba people ?

macof:
1. I already posted that twice. And the "descent from heaven" is not incoherent, maybe you mean not historical...which i agree. But it is part of yoruba tradition. If you had appreciation for tradition you would not set out to blatantly mock it like non-yoruba trolls do. it proves that you have no regard for yoruba tradition

This was the point you were supposed to respond to with this your point 1?? Really?
Does your response really make sense to you?

If you can't address something, why not leave it unanswered instead of going off topic?

Please make sure you are ok before trying to respond to my posts

Olu317:
Kindly Read A.B Ellis : Oduduwan Revolution.

What?! Like how do you even come up with bullshit like this

First of all there's no book titled "oduduwan revolution" by A. B. Ellis
Secondly, Ellis has no knowledge of ancient or Coptic Egyptian language so it is very unlikely that he would be the source for that your Egyptian-Yoruba words list
That list has been posted on different online platforms for years without any valid source or verification through a valid Egyptian dictionary

Stop mentioning random authors that you don't even know. If you have no source admit it and save yourself further embarrassment

That list remains nothing but a piece of shiit until you provide a dictionary or valid lexica with those words meaning what you claim they mean

letu:
Joke's on you clown Jokes on you clown .

For someone who doesn't know what mestizo means

letu:
See this clown is trying to Change goalposts, you are the one that keeps posting and parading that particular picture you posted as the only exact looks of middle Easterners, below is that your picture because your write-up always flow in that direction of an exact looks of Middle Easterners inwhich that particular picture, you posted it in support of your self accepted exact looks of Middle Easterners.
It doesn't matter how much you change your goalposts I will always catch you because the truth for you is that a Leopard can not change its colour so keep on changing goalposts, you will always be who you are Clown .

BELOW IS THAT YOUR PICTURE.

Yes I parade that picture because it is the popular look and I happen to like the picture because the people on it are not pale so that some would not start thinking I am promoting the idea of middle east being white because they simply are not

that is the general image of the people of the middle east so if you are debating what jesus or moses looked like... You should look at that picture

That's not shifting post... That's staying with the standard middle eastern image

You on the other hand came saying middle easterners have mongoloid admixture and therefore some have mongoloid look . I am yet to see you prove that

letu:
first picture's is of Middle Easterne Turkomen, it appears that somehow but not entirely that they have lost their Ancestors Mongoloid looks because of intermixing/intermarrriage ,

Second picture's is that of Turkomen of Central Asia, this Turkomen appears to have retain their Ancestors Mongoloid looks because historically the ancient Turkomen where know to have mongoliod looks.

Lol this same first picture you posted earlier as mongoloid looking. Now you say the people in the picture have lost their mongoloid look.

Dude make up your mind and stop saying nonsense mentioning me 6 times in a row


BTW I'm done with this argument until you can provide evidence of Mongols or central Asians reaching Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Syria, Iraq and settling in all these places

The best argument you can make is of Turkey... With the ottoman having some early oghuz elements in their formation. Evident in the reason why Turks speak a turkic language and not an Iranian language
But that is as far as it gets with central Asians because they don't even look mongoloid

You can't even say turks are mongloid simply because they speak a turkic language. It's like saying Jamaicans are Caucasian because they speak an European language

PS. I have posted the universal definition of Mestizo. You don't just use the word anyhow. It has a standard definition and has nothing to do with the Asian continent
Learn that

letu:
You lack the basic skills of understanding/comprehending stuff, I'm talking about middle Easterners and you keep running up and down with your Arab Semitic this Arab Semitic that, the Arab's are they the only tribes that are part of the middle East well they're others inwhich together they are know as the middle Easterners.
The middle Easterners don't entirely look the same, some look like people from Hindi Urdu Pashto historical cultural areas, some also resembles people of European, while some looks Mongoloids.

Pictures of middle Easterners that looks Mongoloids and those that looks like others, which is all about how much mixed up/ multi racial the middle Easterners are.

OK this guy is just a clown

Even Africans don't look entirely the same. So you must be really silly to think any race of people must look entirely the same.

I purposely do not post pictures of pale middle easterners to not further the eurocentric idea that they are Caucasian. But nobody is saying middle easterners don't come in different shades. Saying that difference comes from mixing with Mongols and Central Asians is however stupid and not based on any evidence you have.

And yes Arabs are the largest ethnicity amongst the semitic people who occupy the middle East

Out of the 4 pictures you posted.. The two pictures in the middle are not middle easterners... I demand the source of those pictures to settle this

The first and the fourth do not have mongoloid features

letu:
It appears that you don't know what it means to compare and contrast or are you scared of how similar both look like, no matter how much you post or use those pictures it won't change the fact that the present day middle East people are of hybrid heritage of the so called ancient middle East with mixed heritage/family with Central Asians of

Oghuz,Tulunids,Burid,Zengid,Ghaznavid, Seljuk,Kwarazimian,Aq Qoyunlu, Turkmen etc,

also mixed up with the Mongolian that conquered the Islamic middle East in the past eg list of some of the Mongolians families/empire,

Timurid,Chagatiai, The Golden Horde,Sufids, The Ilkhanate, The Yuan empire under the leadership of Kublai Khan,



this Mongolian army settled in central Asia also the Islamic middle East by conquering the Islamic middle East and Central Asia, these Mongolian army where made up of soldiers who are of non Mongolian heritage/origin eg the Yuan soldiers that were sent by Kublai Khan himself, this soldiers were sent to help the Mongolians who where under the leadership of Hulagu Khan, to help them conquerer the Islamic middle East inwhich they destroyed the Last Arab Dynasty who's Capital was Baghdad,

list of this Mongolian soldiers of non Mongolian origin that fought in this war under the Mongolian army inwhich they settled and intermarried with the Islamic people in the middle East who where already a people of mixed heritage/origin, the list

eg China, the Mongolian general that was in charge of the Mongolian army during the siege of Baghdad was of Chinese origin his name is Guo Kan And he was not the only Chinese that was part of the Mongolian army because there where many of them who are of Manchurian origin and other Chinese tribe, other Mongolian army who are of non Mongolian origin are, Korean origin,Tibet or Tibetans origin, Kazakh origin etc, this is how mixed up the people of present day middle East are, that's why I use the term that defines mixed heritage or origin which is Mulatto Mestizos Moreno.

There's nothing that looks alike between a mongol and an Arab. So the look of modern day Arabs, Hebrews, Lebanese etc doesn't have a Mongolian or central Asian element

So because the Mongols conquered parts of the middle east in the past.
The modern people of the middle east are therefore mixed with mongloids?

First of all. The only parts of the middle east that got under the Mongols were modern Iran and parts (not all) of Turkey and Iraq
The Mongols never reached Israel, Jordan, the Arab peninsula and the other areas of the middle east....or do you need a map if you can't get one?

To open your mouth or use your hands to type that the people of the middle east are mixed with Mongols or east Asians under the Mongol era is dumb and ignorant

https://borgenproject.org/wp-content/uploads/20843677760_f3cb58759c_z-1.jpg
How people from central asia look like Kyrgyzstan.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/b56f129a09cd3b79726c13edbe51def8/tumblr_nbyu0bqxzi1rsjdo1o1_400.jpg
how semitic people from western asia like israel look

You learn first before coming to argue nonsense. Half knowledge indeed is dangerous

And since when did being conquered mean being mixed?
So Nigerians are mixed with British blood because the British once ruled Nigeria?
Are you that gullible?

You expose your proud ignorance by using the term "Mestizo" anyhow.
Mestizo is native American mixed with European it has nothing to do with the Asian continent

teemotee:
are you saying the current occupants of the country Israel are impostors or what ?

He is saying the current occupants of the entire middle east as well as Europe are imposters
His ancestors who are Jews own it all

donnie:
Those Jews who were not killed had their children snatched away from them and they were shipped to the coasts of Guinea (West Africa) where they were sold as slaves. (see references below).

References below also show the period of time these Jews began to flee.

so you mean Jews were forced to West Africa by the Portuguese during the 15th century
So Africa was empty until the 15th century
What about all the empires and kingdoms that existed for thousands of years? How come Africans speak such different languages if many of us are just 15th century Jewish settlers

donnie:
Those Jews who were not killed had their children snatched away from them and they were shipped to the coasts of Guinea (West Africa) where they were sold as slaves. (see references below).

References below also show the period of time these Jews began to flee.

Look at how you spend so much money, time and energy browsing and reading books about Jews

Have you ever bought or downloaded a book about the history of your ethnic group?
You are here ignorant of your own history arguing about Jews while your ethnicity doesn't have history anymore because you and your generation will not learn instead it's Jews morning, afternoon and night

2prexios:
I accentuate to this.

You will not catch me on your (macof) thread whatever your claims are since it seems we don't get along very well from years of experience.

Please create your own thread on Yoruba history. Take the lead instead of needing to bring down another person's. It's long overdue.

Except you're still going through change

I don't have problems with anyone on a thread I make or having a different opinion.
Just come with facts, sources and/or evidence. Because if you don't you would just embarass yourself

My question to you is.. Why are you now begging me to stop posting?
I am giving you valuable facts and making very important corrections to where you blunder which you should be grateful for if you cared for Yoruba history it shouldn't hurt you or anger you if you want to boost your knowledge of yoruba history.. Certainly not for you to be so emotional and start issuing death wishes
It's not about you is it? Could it be that you don't give a damn about the history, you just want to be allowed to say whatever without question and get paid by your sponsors?
Because that is exactly what I suspect

People would appreciate when you come with facts and sources or at least let your own theories be based on a methodology that can be replicated severally and give identical results rather than just imagination
This is wrong and it is all I want you to understand, I am not here to fight you. two people who have the same intention but different opinions can always reach a consensus
So I want you to search yourself and be honest with yourself.. take emotions, sponsorship and all that out for a moment.. What exactly is your intention? Why must the Yoruba have Hebrew heritage even though it seems there is no currently available evidence for it. What is the purpose of that? Even if you are being paid can't you say no?

I have no personal problem with you. Never
I discuss history all the time in my real life and doing same here is even more relaxing and fun with all kinds of characters that I don't meet everyday

Concerning the death threats you are lucky I don't think you have the guts or means to harm me
Good you don't know who I am and even if you did you cannot get me where I am even though you and olu317 have said you have tried to locate me.. Olu even thought he actually did and said I am one Mr. Makinde. because who knows what your unhealthy obsession could lead you to do. Just don't be stupid and end up in jail over a silly need to be what you are not. I can locate you easily thanks to all the information you give away about yourself in a bid to market yourself. I don't know the type of endorphins you get from thinking you are Hebrew that would lead you to react that way but I wasn't surprised

MetaPhysical:
1. I did not say dont challenge what you find problem with.
2. I say for a change, you lead and show what the facts are. Open a thread and document Yoruba roots as you believe it to be.

1. This is from your previous post and I interpret it to mean you want me to stop asking for evidence or making corrections why are you people so obsessed with something you can't defend and don't like being questioned like this

MetaPhysical:
Alternatively, make conscious effort to ignore each other's posts for some lengthy time and cool off.

Create your own theories on Ife and stop spoiling other people pursuit and theories .

2. I always show what the facts are I am not spoiling any theory that isn't already spoilt or that was ever a theory to begin with.. .. my challenge is always open for anyone to point out where I go wrong. Whether I open a thread or not is of the most minimum significance because I can post anywhere. However when I am feeling it I would open a thread.. Don't worry about that

The real interesting thing is this begging for me to leave you alone

letu:
It appears that you don't know what it means to compare and contrast or are you scared of how similar both look like, no matter how much you post or use those pictures it won't change the fact that the present day middle East people are of hybrid heritage of the so called ancient middle East with mixed heritage/family with Central Asians of

Oghuz,Tulunids,Burid,Zengid,Ghaznavid, Seljuk,Kwarazimian,Aq Qoyunlu, Turkmen etc,

also mixed up with the Mongolian that conquered the Islamic middle East in the past eg list of some of the Mongolians families/empire,

Timurid,Chagatiai, The Golden Horde,Sufids, The Ilkhanate, The Yuan empire under the leadership of Kublai Khan,



this Mongolian army settled in central Asia also the Islamic middle East by conquering the Islamic middle East and Central Asia, these Mongolian army where made up of soldiers who are of non Mongolian heritage/origin eg the Yuan soldiers that were sent by Kublai Khan himself, this soldiers were sent to help the Mongolians who where under the leadership of Hulagu Khan, to help them conquerer the Islamic middle East inwhich they destroyed the Last Arab Dynasty who's Capital was Baghdad,

list of this Mongolian soldiers of non Mongolian origin that fought in this war under the Mongolian army inwhich they settled and intermarried with the Islamic people in the middle East who where already a people of mixed heritage/origin, the list

eg China, the Mongolian general that was in charge of the Mongolian army during the siege of Baghdad was of Chinese origin his name is Guo Kan And he was not the only Chinese that was part of the Mongolian army because there where many of them who are of Manchurian origin and other Chinese tribe, other Mongolian army who are of non Mongolian origin are, Korean origin,Tibet or Tibetans origin, Kazakh origin etc, this is how mixed up the people of present day middle East are, that's why I use the term that defines mixed heritage or origin which is Mulatto Mestizos Moreno.

There's nothing that looks alike between a mongol and an Arab. So the look of modern day Arabs, Hebrews, Lebanese etc doesn't have a Mongolian or central Asian element

So because the Mongols conquered parts of the middle east.
The modern people of the middle east are therefore mixed with mongloids

First of all. The only parts of the middle east that got under the Mongols were modern Iran and parts of Turkey and Iraq
The Mongols never reached Israel, Jordan, the Arab peninsula and the other areas of the middle east

[img]https://external-preview.redd.it/Z4IeXPIfp_C9v5q7kTuNTFYDYHObSii_9Jb-dL6Q-8g.png?auto=webp&s=f7e7533c45e538b7a1dfa91009e8356944e6cfc2[/img]

To open your mouth or use your hands to type that the people of the middle east are mixed with Mongols or east Asians under the Mongol era is dumb and ignorant

You learn first before coming to argue nonsense. Half knowledge indeed is dangerous

And since when did being conquered mean being mixed?
So Nigerians are mixed with British blood because the British once ruled Nigeria?
Are you that gullible?

You expose your proud ignorance by using the term "Mestizo" anyhow.
Mestizo is native American mixed with European it has nothing to do with the Asian continent

MetaPhysical:
This was a very educative and, at one point progressively enlightening thread.

I think absolutesuccess, prexios, macof, you guys need to step away and go do other things for few weeks to calm down and return. Alternatively, make conscious effort to ignore each other's posts for some lengthy time and cool off.

Your interaction has taken a new and ugly dimension.


Macof, I want to ask why you dont open thread to propose your own idea and theories of Yoruba roots?

Create your own theories on Ife and stop spoiling other people pursuit and theories.

I understand you but this is not neccesay and not productive

I won't stay off any post. If I see people declaring Yoruba are what I don't know them to be
I will ask for evidence. I do this everywhere even in real life conversations

And when I see posts about the Yoruba on things I know for sure are wrong I will make correction. When I am wrong I want people to correct me

That's how we move forward not by stroking egos and taking things personal. Reeks of childishness and some kind of psycho problem

If it is so easy to spoil other people's "theories" then those aren't even theories at all but just baseless claims
What are you afraid of? Why don't you encourage your so called theories being challenged?

PS. absolutesuccess, prexios, 2prexios are the same person

OkCornel:
I’m talking of white head, you’re talking of white hair. Look at Revelation 1 v 14 again;

Revelation 1 v 14;
His HEAD and his hairs were WHITE like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire


Please Donnie, is the head (not hair o) of Jesus not also white in color according to Revelation 1 v 14 hmmm?

Wait so it's even head and hair
I even thought it was only hair..

I just checked more online bibles and saw that some new age versions took out "head" na wa o

donnie:
Okay, so he was pink. Mtcheew.

The verse said burning bronze glowing in the furnace

Not finished bronze or brass

donnie:
I love these beautiful pebbles. Now we know exactly what scriptures mean by ruddy or reddish-brown. www.nairaland.com/attachments/11793545_images79_jpegd22f864f2296b56092f222e13aa8cf6c

Hair like wool, skin like brass/bronze (Revelation 1:14-15), that's all were saying...

Revelation 14-15
The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters.

This was a revelation not a real appearance but even at that
This does not describe the appearance of a black man

Jesus was supposedly in his 30s black people have so much melanin that unless you have a sickness disrupting the manifestation of melanin to produce black hair... You can never have white(or grey) hair in your 30s

His eyes were like blazing fire ok this one is just insane. I don't need to even say anything

His feet were like burning bronzing glowing in the furnace
Burning bronze is red hot and looks like red fire... It's when it gets taken out of the furnace and left to cool that the bronze takes a brownish look

Here is burning bronze glowing in the furnace

letu:
Another picture of Moreno Mestizos what's wrong with you, we are taking about reddish brown instead you keep posting pictures of Moreno Mestizos of Central Asian background inwhich a very large number of their ancestors settled in the middle East during the Islamic era, below are pictures of Moreno Mestizos of American background so compare and contrast it with the picture you posted and you will see the exact resemblance ; .

You lack understanding
1. "Mestizo (/mɛˈstiːzoʊ, mɪ-/;[1] Spanish: [mesˈtiθo] (About this soundlisten)) (fem. mestiza) is a term historically used in Spain and Hispanic America that originally referred to a person of combined European and Indigenous American descent, regardless of where the person was born. The term was used as an ethnic/racial category for mixed-race castas that evolved during the Spanish Empire. "
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mestizo

Mestizos did not exist until the Spanish colonised parts of the Americas starting in the 15th century

2. And no. The middle east is not populated by people from central Asian backgrounds
Central Asia is a region which stretches from the Caspian Sea in the west to China and Mongolia in the east, and from Afghanistan and Iran in the south to Russia in the north. The region consists of the former Soviet republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Asia

3. Also Mestizos are not native to central Asia nor would they have a significant population there. Any Mestizo you find in a country like Kyrgyzstan is a recent migrant from South America

4. The islamic era was the 8th to 14th century. Mestizos did not even exist on the planet because the spanish had not yet started mixing with the native americans

You just came here to say absolute trash

the secound picture you posted is of james franco
https://netstorage-legit.akamaized.net/images/8ad15a0314843db7.jpg
he is not mestizo but portuguess-swedish-russian-jewish these are his backgrounds none of them is native american. and he looks nothing like mousa kraish
https://marrieddivorce.com/uploads/images/celebrity/mousa-kraish.jpg
who originates from the west bank (disputed territory between Israel and Palestine).

If you are looking for what Moses and Jesus would have looked like....look at Mousa Kraish...they are they same poeple

2prexios:
Are you afraid? You have always been killing yourself on another man's palalava day by day.

What you claim will not happen in your lifetime may happen after you are no longer around.
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Interesting. Taken far too personal. You need to grow up if you have to resort to threatening death

2prexios:
It's impossible from your end because it's not a beat you were designed to unravel. And you are the infinitesimal entity I'm to hand over such information to should I have it.

Kid, read about ideas and how to protect your ideas from dreamkillers. Whatever you want to do in life, there's always the hordes to tell you that it's impossible.

They were men with good intentions. But that's what they were, dreamkillers. Hundreds of years afterwards, event confirms exactly what they claim to be impossible.

It's better to fall being original failure than succeed as a macof that abandoned his ideas of Oduduwa 6 years ago for one stupid micro claim that's conterproductive to his big-picture claim as a successful puppet just to answer "historian".

Lmao. If you had it you would provide it
You wouldn't be desperate to get people to flock to you if you didn't care
Everything you have, you have dropped here. We've seen it all and seen your book.
Your book is on the same level as your posts here

Like I said.. the day you squeeze water out of a stone is the day you will be able prove Yoruba have Hebrew heritage
You are not prepared at all

2prexios:
The clown is you.

You are the pathological liar and psychopath that must disgrace someone else to stay relevant.

Here you will earn likes, but I will use you to shine. It's a great trade.

You will shine when you provide historical records of Hebrew migration to Yorùbáland from either yorubas or Hebrews
Or archeological or genetic evidence to same effect

But in the words of MuttleyLaff
"This is like asking him to go squeeze water out of stone nah. You wan keel pesin be that ooo wiv dis kind request"

the day you squeeze water out of a stone is the day you will be able prove Yoruba have Hebrew heritage

2prexios:
LOL,

Bloody Serpent

I've given you the idea of what personality is all about, you are quick to oversimplify it.

I'm seeking nairaland fame and you are seeking nairaland shame?

mr giver of ideas...
Because the idea of personality was not known before you wrote the word "personality" in your previous comment

Giver of ideas and imaginative claims but not evidence

Bloody frantic clown
Keep it up. I'm enjoying your show

2prexios:
You don't have a personality, I do.

You are here to gather likes to feel good about your personality because it's all you have to feel relevant. I am here to consistently answer you, hoping that this website will outlive me.

At the end, every light needs a darkness to shine brighter, I'm the one using you to shine. Hence you have your rewards and I have mine. It's how God has designed it to be.

When plotting your character in a novel, you don't save him from going through the fire. Your kind of clique are the necessary devil that darken the cloud for Divine enlightenment to shine through.

this right here as well as many more previous declaration of light vs darkness over a thread on NL shows you are frantic and depend on nairaland fame. A failed reputation here hits you badly.
Anyone who questions you is met with attacks and called a destroyer. Anybody who commends you is met with joyful thanks and gratitude.
You also seem to have a serious thing with my posts getting likes

My friend getthafuvk out. Too childish
Or your ogas who pay you are complaining? cus this would explain the personal pain and childish act
All the "destroy people's work" (as if you have any work) "devil to my light" and others would make sense

2prexios:
I can see you think I am here to play your game. Who are you that nailing you would be my priority? It's your own lies and inexperience that will smoke you out like a rodent. Just a little moment from now.



Can you imagine this! Do I asked you to memorize anything? Good God, you knew he had several scholarship but missed out I asked you to read "The Oyo Empire" by Robin Law after you have mesmerized around the same title over and over? You are clueless.

My saying go back and read Robin Law got you confused because. You only caught hold of the name Robin Law, the title had never crossed your mind. Ohh what a Yoruba scholars you were, what an authoritative historian.

I must be a prophet, I thanked you for inviting men that are wiser than you to the thread when you invited ggregboy. He has cited the book I asked you to read on my thread on Oriki.



Your elicitation technique never worked on me. I only give as much as I would want others to know. You feigning "grandiose" to ferret facts from your victims that want to be right at all cost had never worked on me, so do the job and destroy it.

I think you should know I'm sponsored by mfm too, take it back to Facebook since it's what you live for.

Thats the only thing that is real here, this Jewish hangover is your life, your passion and your existence. It's what you live for to destroy in Yoruba history before it dare manifest and become a viable claim.

Before: no clue about the title yet



After: got the clue but not sure



Now: completely confused spoofing.



Scammer, you don't know what you don't know. Whatever you read, if any, you can never understood any beyond your IQ. I won't help you out, go back and read Robin Law

Long rants.

I don't doubt mfm or a similar church is paying you.. All of you are on a failed agenda
I take it you have nothing to say about Robin Law.
You just wanted to mention him to show that you've finally started reading a book
Congrats though.. Keep it up boy

2prexios:
Ateworo,

Historical and scientific Validation:

Ateworo
Olofin

Given that ateworo means "one who press the law to it's flexible end", that would make the suffix 'ro' an adverb, adding more meaning to the verb, te, meaning "to press".

Main and subordinate clauses

The main clause therefore is atewo, one who press the law. It's thus a label. Subordinate clause is a-ro, meaning "flexible end". If that's correct, then the two phrases should agree.

So here's the clue.

Atewo = Olofin

A=O
Té=lo
Wo=fin

Let's say ewo is Iwo, Ifa, òfìn and ikin. The groits were known as a ro kin. Ro in that sense is equivalent with lo, as found in Olofin:

Arokin=Olofin

A=O
Ro=Lo
Kin=fin

It also becomes Ron/ro when seen from Ifa perspective: gbonmogbonmo laa ro/ron faa'diti. So this syllable is constant in Yoruba history.

Arofa = Arowasi= Oniwasu= Arokin

Science means repeating the same thing twice or more and getting the same result. Scientific method of history is validated by this experiment in history.

Iwo Eleru: the law hard to break
Iworo: the law stands firm.

Historical perspective

The Awori claim that they followed Olofin from Ife and part of the place they anchor on the way was Iro. The word marks something spectacular in Yoruba history.

Iro: Amendment to Constitution

Iloro is a manifestation of the two options for bend and soft in the same word, where it means becoming wealthy.

Iloro in the ancient Yoruba history is akin to Ilaje, having money. Oduduwa is known as Alaje. Aje is Yoruba icon for wealth.

Observe the saying: iwo olodo Oba, omo ate ni gbola. Our pointers are all intact in there, Iwo, Olodo, Oba, ate, ateni, gbola.

There's transfer of wealth with the amendment to the Constitution, and the recipient was Oduduwa.

complete trash found only in your night time imagination

2prexios:
Scammer.

Look at what you did up there muddling up historical words in crazy frenzy to crack up what is too profound for you to break.

There's no Ewọ, but atewonro and ateworo is allowed to mean exactly the same thing because you said so?

If you are that good, what is "toro" in Yoruba? Give all possible meaning of the word.

this atewonro thing pain this guy to the bone
Next time don't speak on things you don't have sources for or can't defend
Now look at all this attempts at trying to save face instead of moving on with what you've learnt