₦airaland Forum

Logycs:
1) I am Edo, stop making assumptions on people whom you know nothing about.
2) the title of the emperor of Benin empire is Oba and Omo n'Oba n'Edo in full.
3) why do you just keep repeating rubbish ?
4) you still don't understand that the Oba of Benin is the king while Enogie is a Duke under the authority of the Oba if Benin ?
All other titles in Benin empire are vassal titles to that of the Oba if Benin whose title is simply Oba.
If you consider the lesser titles to be longships then the only translation for the title of the Oba is emperor.


Look how a simpeton like you have the audacity to speak on behalf of us Edo !
You just go around making unsubstantiated claims which have severally been debunked while hoping the interlocutor is not aware.

@samuk @areafada

Logycs:
I see you are still conducting your 419 logics.
To the unsuspecting readers: there is no such thing as etymology for our west African languages. This "oyo r'oba" thing is a hoax created by non other than macof and some other nairaland revisionists.
The word Oba refers to the title of the emperor of Benin empire and was copied by the Yoruba chiefs in the 1930's

Obalufon:
You are doing more damage connecting our proud and well civilized ancestors with bunch of naked people of benue congo confluence or kwa or what ever you called it

MetaPhysical:
Oponu ni e!

You that called Alade Owner of Crown.

...and failed to recognize that Ogho and Ego are borrowed words from OWO.


You should never open mouth to talk kwa and methodology here again

A Yoruba wannabe

MetaPhysical:
Are you sure?

You are assuming that AL was originally an Arabic word. You made same error when you disconnected Sigidi from Masjid. You have been engineered to accept all Arabic word as default. Is it possible Arab could have loaned words from Yoruba? Yes, very possible. Well...Al is one of such words.


In Yoruba, Al occur in following -

Al - as in alamodi
Alu - as in alubosa
Ale - as in alejo
Alla - as in Alade (should be "ll"
Ala - as in alatupa

Im current with the above but they are more than that. I will clarify each for you. Before I do let me say ALLA is an authentic Yoruba word.

As you have heard me say many times, this is not a forum I can divulge indepth knowledge of who we are in relation to rest of civilizations.

I once mentioned here and Im going to repeat now, Obatala was a Meccan.

The Arabs know this. They would never accept any record of it and if one existed they have obliterated it. They wiped out all physical records and monuments to do with Mohammed and he exists only in written records now, much more Obatala. Mohammed did not build Kaaba, Abraham did, Yorubas worshipped in Kaaba....the cult of Obatala....before Islam.

Much of what is paraded as Arab words today are loaned words from Old Hebrew and they are articulated to sound unique. The religion of Islam mandates prayer in Arabic. This has greatly helped to facilitate and legitimize Arabic as a root and independent language, and anywhere any semblance of it is used the assumption is that it is borrowed.

At first glance does it not sound ridiculous that Amodi in Yoruba is same as Medic, from which we have medical, medicine and medicare? Yoruba had alchemy and herbal science. Its cult is Osanyin. It taught balance in emotions and purity in blood through the use of herbs and compounds to manage Illness - Amodi. Nowadays we hear Sanguin (a state of mental wellbeing and healthy living) but we never connect it back in relation to Osanyin.

So Osanyin, Amodi have their cognates in Sanguine and Medic respectively.

The use of Alu in Yoruba is to communicate sense of something different, a variant, other, abnormal, deficient and is contexual in its application.

Alubosa - Onion
There are many types of onions. Basal is the common compound or element in all. Garlic is one kind. So a "different basal" is what Alubosa means.

Alujanu - Genie
Janu is Gene. In this sense Alujonu is a "different being".

Yoruba use Alu in the same manner it is used when we say Allo.

Example :
Allotropy - different kinds of chemical

Allocate - set aside or apart, other need.


To return to Yoruba use of Alu -

Alubarika - a different stage of blessing

Aluqurani - a different or other Holy Book.

Qurani itself comes from Iqra...to read.


You can express a position of "otherliness" or "differerence" for any object using Yoruba language but our Alu has same application that Allo does in English. Not every object in English is prefixed Allo.....same goes for us. Those that carry Alu in our language are not borrowed words.


Should we say we borrowed Alejo (guest) from Arab? Did we borrow Imura (preparation) from them? How about Ale (night), was it borrowed?

Arabs dont have the word Alfa. Did we borrow Alufa?

MetaPhysical:
There are various AL prefixes and they are all authentic to Yoruba, not borrowed from anywhere.

Even Alubosa is not a borrowed word. We Yorubas just dont know these things because we suffered a disconnect in our literature records. We had literature and writing but our educated scribes worked in conjunction with Christian missionaries to delete it. Bariba, Tapa, Hausa, Kanuri, Yoruba.....we all used Ajami to write in our native tongue the way latin script is used to write in the various European tongues....yet the Englishman does not underatand the Frenchman, nor the Spanish or the German or Portuguese. So a Yoruba could identify the letters written in Kanuri but would not be able to decipher it. We used Ajami since beginning of our civilization to record events and society....where are those records?

They were not translated or archived. Where are they?


To go back to AL, we had different versions of it and I will share the ones I know. I hesitate to do that now because you will save macof an embarassment. I dont want anyone to intervene. Im taking this up with him to come and explain on two things.

1. That OWO is authentically a Kwa word.

2. That AL prefix in Yoruba is borrowed from Arab/Hausa.

macof:
Smh. So the new argument now is that Alubarika, Alubọsa are not borrowed words anything for this semitic claim right?

I didn't know there was such a thing as Ubọsa in Yoruba language.. And why Alubọsa not Onibọsa

You guys are clowns

Refer to my previous posts










Eg. Alubarika from "Al baraka" (the blessing) in Arabic., Alubọsa from "Al basal" (the onion)

Very different from Alade, Alaini which are original to Yoruba Alade = owner of a crown. Ade =crown. Ala ade with "ala" serving as a possessive from the palatalization of "Oni" (owner/possessor) to blend with the first sound of the word "Ade".

Another example is Olowo. Owo =money
Olo serving as possessive from "Oni"

Ẹni to ni Owo = O ni Owo = O l'owo = Olowo


PS. Do tell how this is wrong

TAO11:
Short answer: No, it wasnt at any time.

Long answer: Many early writtings making statements to the effect that Benin was suzerain over some eastern and southern fronteir Yoruba Kindoms are statements emanating originally from Benin.

Such statements are not corroborated (in fact contradicted) by these Yoruba kingdoms.

Olfert Dapper in the 1600s (who first of all wasn't an eyewitness) first documented such statements emanating from Benin. J. Barbot used Olfert Dapper without acknowledgment and added his own details.

Moreover, H.L. Gallwey writing from Benin also documented similar statements to the effect that Benin owned the land up to around Lokoja. In fact, many modern day Bini people still strongly believe the obviously deluded idea that their Oba owned the land up to Europe. So, you can imagine what the thinking was in the past.
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To balance this out actually, the frontier eastern and southern Yoruba kingdoms and the Benin Kingdom both mutually consider each other to be one band of brothers from Ife and didn't by default see each other as enemies.

The Binis who were veteran long distance traders had the practice of settling down away from home, and establishing resident trading communities. The Bini resident trading communities often remit tributes (from trade gain) back home to their king through their leaders known as "Olotu Ado", or "Olotu Ekiran", or, in bigger towns, "Balekale".

On the whole then, conflicts between these kingdoms appear basically in the context of trade disputes as opposed to imperial ascendancy which it has usually been often misrepresented based on exaggerations from the Benin side back at home.

No doubt, the Benin kingdom appears to be the militarily stronger brother-kingdom in that axis. Other kingdoms in the axis may then have, for this particular reason, acknowledged its seniority with gifts as is often the custom even among other Yoruba kingdoms in the interior.

But imperial rule and domination was clearly out of the question from the account of these other kingdoms.

MetaPhysical:
This has been your style....to dodge!

You are crafty but i already told you, i will continously reveal your shallowness in what you claim to be ypur specialty.


Answer the question I asked you.
Are the Yoruba words with "Al" prefix borrowings from Arab/Hausa -
"alaini" (the deprived)
"alabosi" (discreet)
"alamodi" (sick)
"alabode" (medium)....


How about names with "Al" in prefix, are they borrowed from Arab/Hausa?


If you were smart, macof, you would have recognized that "Al" prefix is an attribute of something.

When applied in name it confers a quality.

When applied in conditions it confers an absence of some quality.

In both cases it exists as an attribute.

What kind of quack linguist are you?

Please answer my question, is any Yoruba word prefixed with Al a borrowing from Arab/Hausa?

If not clarify why you would dismiss some and not others. What is your criteria for selection?

Your interpretation of Alade is false by the way. Just so you know.


Focus on the use of Al in Yoruba to communicate EFFICIENCY, and its use to equally COMMUNICATE DEFICIENCY.

macof:
See them running helter skelter.

Arguing that "Al" is "The" in Yoruba what dah hell
And the contuined mission on Ìrìn being cognate with "Iron"

It's as if when you 4 make claims without having any prior knowledge of the issue, you still keep to the claim when shown how you are wrong but switch the style of argument to using the pieces of the very information newly taught to you that debunks the claim

1. The fact that Yoruba words like Alubọsa, Alukurani, Alubarika with "Al" prefixes serving as "the" in their original Arabic meanings are modern loan words from Arabic through Hausa proves further that indeed Yoruba has no "the" just like other Kwa languages
funny guys. Normally your command of yoruba should be sufficient enough to know and accept this without argument but nah, you already committed so now you can't accept and move on to something else, you must run helter-skelter around this because you know the implications of this fact on your semitic nonsense


You can't dismiss the fact but can't accept the fact.

macof:
So you mean you don't know the difference between Alade and Alubọsa? And you speak some Yoruba? You sure about that?


We know Alade is Oni Ade/Ala Ade = owner of a crown
So when you see Alubọsa does it mean owner of Ubọsa

Or it is the other way around? Does Alade mean "the crown" "Al Ade"

Chai. Mehn the stupidity is something else

PS. You can see the n - l palatalization still in standard Yoruba.. Further demonstrating to you the authenticity of my drawn up consonant sound change pattern

2prexios:
You are taking an "historian" that can open his mouth and say "what concerns Robin Law of Oyo empire with Oduduwa of Ile Ife" seriously?

First impression last longer, but you don't know when you make that first impression. That boy made his first impression on me right there.

This guy is only proficient in finding fault and fighting anything in sight from whoever he chooses as adversary, no more, no less.

From the comments that follows, you can guage his train of thought that he's unaware of Robin Law or the book titled The Oyo Empire.

What manner of Yoruba historian is this? He question Robin Law as though I mean Robin Law is some kind of law pertaining to a bird called Robin from Oyo empire. You get the drift?

He was unaware that there's an historian like that, yet he is quick to mock me that I don't read, when indeed he is clueless in the very issue at hand. You teach him, he use it against you.

That tells you who you are dealing with and what you are up against. That's why I called him scammer and Chameleon professor. Have you any idea how far he has to go?

As long as you can go teaching him. It's called parasitic existence. The host feed the parasite and the parasite might outlive the host, drain it and go to the next victim.

2.

Redbonesmith posted on the shared words between the Yoruba and Igbo somewhere on page 4 or so, where I picked Olu's table and draw ideas from it.

I adopted kwa, owo, ego, and copied the prototype (protoword) on the Olu's table, in the first row, to highlight some ideas used on the table as idea for divergent in owo, kwa and ego.

There on Olu's table, consonants in an original shared words are listed first as protoword, then each language's pattern of pronunciation follows.

This guy went to fetch redbonesmith ideas from the same thread and call it his, and did exactly what I did earlier in the post he quoted in "confusing style" that he called his.

He has no idea just before then, he employed this trick as validation of all the claims he ever made between Yoruba and Igbo. My approach has given him an eureka!

Next, he called it been keen and parade false humility that he's not even a linguist and equally exposed himself as a quack subsequently.

Olaaka and Oruka sounds divergent than bo'a and bowa. Yet he would make authoritative statement few paragraphs away as how historical linguistics work.

A blind leading the blind is catastrophic. Please don't patronize him as a linguist, you should be helping a fraudulent character massage his ego doing just that.

A man should be rewarded for his bravery and brainy contributions in either side of an argument, not for his invincible sense of deception.

Please note, macof is a sham. He's operating in the peripheral, and he knows how to use that to his best advantage till favourable tide turns for him. He's a clever opportunist without depth.

I have predicted earlier in my response to him that whatever he read, he won't be able to fathom knowledge from it. Thus as apparent as the ideas he fetch himself, he couldn't see the knowledge hidden below the surface.

He brought out iron and irin, he butress it with the barzel, yet all insight and knowledge concealed below the surface were in his blind spot. Then that question whatever principles he alluded to as linguistic rule.

You are a very versatile thinker from the first time I got here till date, and you have profound effect on my perspectives. You are the best bro, you pave way for breaks. Think about this things.

All the best sir.

MetaPhysical:
I see you got two likes.
Macof, how did this happen?

Now, on a serious note....on the bold, am i seeing right? You projected your bias very openly here. Do the following conform with your conclusion on "Al" being an Arabic cum Hausa loan term?


abode - moderate
Alabode - is this Arabic/Hausa?
(abode/moderate being cognates)

amodi - ill
Alamodi - is this Arabic/Hausa?
(amodi/medic being cognate)

akoro - coronet
Alakoro - is this Arabic/Hausa?
(akoro/coronet being cognate)
(ikarawun/crown being cognate)


Here is more....are all these names borrowed from Arab/Hausa ?


Alamu
Alani
Alake
Alabi
Alade
Alao

TAO11:
Great points as always. I would like to add (some words of clarification) to to your valid point here that Yoruba language does not have "definite article".

However, Yoruba language does have a word which translantes in English and Arabic as "the" and "al" respectively, but it simply serves the purpose of an affix, rather than a definite article.

This Yoruba word is "náà" as can be seen in the following phrase "ọmọ náà" which translates as "the child".

Again, this word, "náà", is not a definite article even though it translates to "the", "al" in English, and Arabic languages respectively in which these foreign words would double as definite articles.

donnie:
In all humility, I do. Anyone whom YAH sends, he empowers. Besides, it's our heritage as BANTU/ YISOLELE/ ISRAEL.
Just recently, a friend who's wife would not give birth weeks after her due date came to see me for some work we were to do together.
He mentioned it passingly, but as we continued to chat I said, let us pray in agreement. The following day, she gave birth naturally.
Days after delivery, the woman was feeling sick, she wasn't producing milk, the child was crying every day. He told me this after I asked how they were faring. I was led to pay him a surprise visit. That night, the baby slept peacefully, the following day, milk began to flow.

I see these things on a regular as I live out this message.

Olu317:
And what's this? Barzel or Yhi ron

Olu317:
And you can't decipher which is ? I have begun to suspect that you anxiously seek the knowledge of the classic Hebrew language but you shamelessly act behind the entrance door as a disguise. So dont explain etymology of a minority Angles who have multiple ethnic group's loan words into her language.


Barzel in Hebrew is not the only word for iron,which is borne out of the alphabet: bet+ resh+Zan+ aleph + lam which you fail to understand and can't understand because you can't differentiate the methodology which is being used to know the, words, cognates, synonym noun ,make you inconsistent. Thus, Kindly don't patronise me with unfounded perception. In fact barzel has same cognate with moulding(bending) of mighty iron.

2prexios:
Boss,

All that this guy is trying to do is to take over the scepter of authority on Yoruba history on this platform and elsewhere.

He knows exactly what is in it for him.

That fame and glory and whatever that's in it for him is unknown to you and I but this fellow alone. We're threat to his agenda.

Olu317:
Of course, we can trust Oxford dictionary to an extent though English language are mostly loaned from outside England because I am familiar with English history so, whatever is written in English dictionaries are heavily loaned from and outside Germanic. The migrants from Germanic enclave and extension are Saxons, Angles,Jutes, and the earlier settlers in England, who were celtic groups. The Angles language developed into modern day England and English language, even when it is well known that the name seemingly stood out because she came with an identity as Englaland and the language spoken was known as Englisc during that era, from West Germanic language.

Interestingly the language spoken before 17th century are not intelligible to modern speakers of English language in England, which show the difference between learners and teacher's language( English language developed 1000s of loaned words into her language). This is because the English language did not developed from Germanic language only but also along non Germanic language which are,such as Latin, Italian,Greek and French and muxh later Classic Hebrew. This begun during the era of King William, the English language developed more and incorporated or loaned Classic Hebrew's language into her lexicon through Biblical interpretation from Greek-Latin into new era English language.

Thus, using English dictionary to convey your point has some flaws from it, which actually point to the fact that Iron or Iren is loaned from Hebrew through the Greek's Septugint knowledge of Torah(Tawra) of Classic Hebrew known as English Bible.

Contrary to hi(i) in English language's accent, the classic Hebrew, use ee,yi for (i). And no other known Classic kingdoms such as Latin-Roman,French,German,Russian, Armenia, Greek, except Hebrew. Even the Arabs who are amongst the pioneer relation don't have such cognate with Hebrew's word for yhe-ron or eeren.So, don't defend your view from English language's persoer. Plainly Europeans don't own the word nit Semitic in origin. Below screenshot will show who were the migrants English people..

Read and proof the above information wrong, If you can!

Note: Perhaps, at your humility and non usage of vulgar words, you will know that Yoruba language developed from the foundational language of the world which was spoken to mankind after man deserted God through the development to the pioneer ancestors of the man called Ebora(A b r ; E b r ) ,who is called Abram in English and world's knowledge. The pioneer ancestors of Ifaodu .

gh - w, h, g eg. Money : Owo, Ogho (Yoruboid) Igho (Edoid) Ego (Igboid)/ You sg. : iwọ (Yoruboid), ihọ (Edoid), gi (Igboid) / They : wọn, ghan, gha (Yoruboid and Edoid), ha (igboid).
Or kp - k eg. Hand: Apá [Akpá] (Yoruboid) Aka (igboid)/ Frog : Ọpọlọ[Ọkpọlọ] (yoruboid), Eko (edoid), Akolo (igboid).
Or l - n, r eg. Neck: Ọrùn, Olu (yoruboid and igboid) Onu (igboid)/ Ring : Òrùka, Oluka(Yoruboid), Olaaka (Igboid) / Sky/Above : Ọ̀run, Ọlu (Yoruboid and Igboid), Elu (Igboid) / In/at : ni, li, na (Yoruboid, edoid and igboid)

uncertain: i don't like posting things i'm still researching but take this as a bonus
Or ny - n, y eg.´Elephant: Erin (Yoruboid), Eni (Edoid), Enyi (Igboid) /Mother : Iye, Nne from possibly "Inye" . Nna (Father or Mother in Igboid, depending on dialect) and Iya (Mother in Yoruba) could then be safely established as cognates

Yoruboid includes Igala. Edoid includes urhobo. Igboid includes Ekpeye

Dpharisee:
Osimhen is the sort after bride of the moment, so many things coming out from Edo no be Lagos.
Kamaru Usman retaining his UFC belt, Obaseki showing Ambode what it means to be a real man and a legend like General Gattuso prepared to sacrifice part of his salary for Osimhen.
Truly Edo no be Lagos

Olu317:
Lol, it is foolhardy on your part to claim that, ‘ Cognates don't need to look alike when written down if not Ìrìn and Iron should be Cognates.'

Funnily, ‘true cognate' have closely knitted homophone letters, and translated meaning as same or closely related meaning. So stop lying to the audience.

The reality is that you seek knowledge but in a cunning way, which is well known amongst the oga ( chameleon)alike set of people amongst Yoruba.

Plainly, Iron is cognate with Irin because it former loaned from Classic Hebrew language into English's language. This is the power kf Yoruba's ANCESTORS,which is the reason,the English's Iron was borrowed from Yoruba's ancestors from the land of ancient Israel which is cognate with English speaker ,who are the learners of Yoruba language.

Below is where English language loaned Irn from Classic Hebrew. Meanwhile, the root word for Yhiron are from the following alphabets combined from thw root words Yud + resh + nun

Comparing the English language translation and the Transliteration, with Yoruba's spoken words as you have stated shows the classic Hebrew language still exist till eternity. Meanwhile the combination for the word are transliterated as following: yeern/yirn/eerin/yhiron. obviously, Yoruba ancestors are extraordinarily outstanding.

donnie:


The darkest and brightest in the world. Both Are from Africa.

donnie:


I agree with eplanning and Letu. MESSIAH is reddish brown like myself. Those mixed white races you like posting look nothing like him.

2prexios:
I can relate: doing the job is too cumbersome for you as always. But destroying the efforts of others with insults s the true definition of your intelligence.

What can make you practice exactly what you preach? What you practice is what you preach, you preach history but practice polemics. You can't teach what you don't know,

You don't know what you claim you practice if you can't practice it when it's convenient or not. Your primary passion can be deducted from whatever you claim to be your true passion.

So, you are what you do effortlessly and not what you claim you can do or deny. You are a defamer and a fake historian that preach history but can't practice his profession effortlessly.



You believe in knowledge being elusive until you study hard. You have done that, but it's like you are stranded. You have a foam soaked in water, yet you can't squeeze water from a soaked foam.

Numerous works, and none has stuck or imprint on your thought that you can easily share from experience. So then how numerous?

Like Robin Law have numerous scholarship you don't remember the one to read even when one of such is overtly pointed out.

Eyes

Egun: nukun
Yoruba: Oju

Linguistic method nk, hj

Money:

Egun: kwa
Yoruba: owo
Igbo: ego

Linguistic method (protoword): kw, hg.




You can never draw any of such easy instance to buttress your point here because of lack of easy ideas. Others' efforts makes it so easy for you, but your core effort makes it so hard for others.

Odion is not Odiyan, Igbo is not Igbo but Ugbo. Poor historian. Yet you spoke of cognates here.
And the idea of body parts, animals and food names sounds good, you have none you could recollect from your years of hard studies?

My advice is, stop your vague dwelling on others' accomplishments as validation of your knowledge.


What method did you prescribe for validation of Yoruba history in Niger Congo above? Dictionary. Can you possibly accept the protoword method of consonant cluster as a method?

Falsification test

Saying every word is a different pattern shows you are unintelligent. That's why vowel sounds are eliminated to alter the pattern in other to get to the root of the word in question.

Months ago, you claimed the Niger Congo have common antediluvian tradition, such non-domestic example was drawn to validate your claim but linguistic agreements like the one above are unfounded.

Fake historian. You should have known that the table I copied from olu is dealing with historical linguistics from where he copied from and I am meant to match my findings with the same listed ideas.

2prexios:
Se, se'y, asa, mehri, bo'a

@Olu, I saw your piece on page 4 where you alluded to this list as you have it above. Se is to do or to create, establish or originate in Hebrew. Likewise, the Genesis gave us the tale of the original sin.

The proximity of this idea is what I'm exploring in Oduduwa. Se equally implies sin or offence and Ose, the originator in Yoruba is equivocation for an offender.

It's like saying isedale is identical with saying the original sin. That agreement in linguistic proximity is such that either the writer of Genesis think in Yoruba or that Yoruba somehow feels at home in that story through her language.

Sw, sy,

This protoword, means to do something bad for someone else, seni, asebi, aseni bani daro. Esu ma se mi. This particular one is the figurative for "doing" or remotely controlling the other person to their hurt.

Another Hebrew or Semitic variant domiciled in Yoruba is sa, as found in asasi. Nasr is it's transitive form, Ebenezer, ibi ni isa: -sir, -zer, -sa (isapa) are derivative of the same prototype.

Kutere asa l'oogun: the asa here shows that kutere is the power of the charm.

That empowerment is Isa or oosa, such that Yoruba Osa should have Hebrew counterpart in the Bible, and you have it exactly at the passage where the word Ebenezer is in the Bible.

Whoever is picking stones and placing one on top of the other and pouring oil on it is establishing an altar, and the same practice is iborisa, the stone that the head or the seer placed together in one place are ori-sa.

Asa

Bad mannered woman, someone who is capable of saying trash just to score a point. Uncouth or uncultured person. The other variant asa that stands for culture in Yoruba connect with ise.

Asa ati ise: asa is the way of life. Observe that the way here doesn't translate to road, the same way asa here translate to k'asa, learned behavior, thus asa is ise (character) at work = asa.

So like the case of koro and abuja, asa ati ise are synonyms, one is registered for culture or behavior at work, while the other is reserved to mean 'work' or behavior proper. Otherwise, asa is behavior, ise is behavior.

Asa is transitive form for Ose in Hebrew language, where it means to work or create.

Mehri (Obameri)

To see in proto word, but Obameri as Oluweri should be like a captain of the Mariners and someone who call the shot. Kikida Ori akesan nii dari oko nile iseri, akesan nleri omo agbebi omuwe. That dari and merhi are prototype. Giving direction and mr indicate seer.

Bo'a

I've talked about this before as akin to saying eranle nii bowa o y'ode. On my honor, I will do my best to share what we can get from what we already have.

Bo bata, wear a footwear, wo Bata, put on a footwear,

Hyy

Aye, life, existence.

All the proto words have expression in Yoruba language, as others and Yoruba equally have cognates with related languages in the same study.

An idea that the proponents cannot demonstrate for a barely literate person to understand is an assumption or opinion at best.

It is left for Professor Chameleon to try his hand on any protoword sourced from Niger Congo linguistic family to validate just a claim at any point to prove a point.

That would be like squeezing water from stones.

Reex12:
The GOAT

Obalufon:
Igbo or Ugbo are rebels of ife indigenes that oppose the rule of Olofin adimula through the leadership of Obamakin the son or lineage Oranfe onile ina osanganga Obamakin

2prexios:
Yes boss,

Fact can't contradict, only that there's no only one answer most times. Your inputs are right.

Of course Jehovah is a misnomer and wrong handling of qere transferred to ketiv inherent in the masoretic text. But the word has come to stay.

Oluyare

Yare, oluyare this featured in moremi's tradition. It's an indication that what we have in our tradition is cognate with Yare (anglicized as Jair).

By this token, Moremi's tradition derived from the Levant experience of the Yoruba. It validate my claim that Moremi was Oduduwa.

It's hard to assimilate but let's keep it somewhere for now. Given that the Oluyare were the Igbo, Obatala was the king of the Igbo.

Moremi was the infiltrator who penetrated the palace (Oyo Alaafin). Yare was her opponents, Oluyare is another word for Obatala.

Fact file

Yare should mean in Hebrew "fearful", "dreadful" to validate the claim of Ife that the Oluyare were fearful masquerade attacking the Ife.

Lahami (Bethlehem) should play out in the Hebrew and alami (spy) should be traceable in Yoruba tradition. This are pointers.

The horse

The Yoruba word Esu equally have a remote connection with the horse. A bit busy now.

Please read about elhanan the jairite online.

Olu317:
lol. I have answered you,so bury your head in humility!

Your pride has taking away your ability to maneuver through understudy beyond written works which all authors believe that once a better version of information exist through hieroglyphs, pictographs, ideograms,philology, which you take with levity, in which one need to consider critical analysis of Yoruba's ethnography.

How can you embarrass me when those cognates exist ? In ‘Kings and Crown' there is word as an Egyptian's Pharaoh's word known as liad,which means ‘chamber', place where Pharaoh discuss with his council. Guess what ? Iledi comes to mind! Honestly, my take on your personality is that your pride is grandeur and pride comes before fall.

Well on provision of the cognates comparison,will only make you feel bitter. But you can read the description between Yoruba and Egyptians Coptic connection in Olumide Lucas and Cannon 's work.So, also Olomu and eyebira on Egyptian connection. Perhaps, once you humble yourself, I shall consider it.



Cheers

Olu317:
‘ Ba' is not germinate? This only show how many lies you had posted in the past and this particular one.

No wonder, people who are well studied or studying agree to the testament of linguistic connection between Yoruba and Egypt, in which you boldly claimed as False!Thoroughly, ‘Ba' is homonymous in nature in which I know more than eight ( meaning of it . Below is a screenshot of ‘Ba' which means ,‘to germinate'.