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anibi9674: who judged u? U asked a question nd i gave u my anser. Wen adam nd eve sinned day realised day were naked nd made 4 demsef clothings of fig leaves dat wont stand d taste of time bt God killed an animal nd used d skin 2 make clothin 4 dem. D conciousnes of wearin cloth was ordained by God

This guys holy spirit must be a fake one or ur Bible is a remixed version

harnnarh: may God forgive u cos u don't know what u are doing!!! but i'll advise u to read the bible properly,,start with new testament,,it would help u lot! cant blive a pagan still exist,,i pray u have a change of hrt,IJN ,,amen,jesus loves u

Lmao. We pagans are growing everyday.
Yoruba paganism(Ifa Orisha/Aborisha) is now the 6th largest religion in the world

Hinduism is 4th

by the grace of Olodumare, all Yoruba in yorubaland and diaspora would revert to the religion of our ancestors.

I also pray for all other Africans to recognize the gods of their ancestors

I know exactly what am doing, you are the one who knows nothing. you don't even know about your religion as christianity is not wat it seems

Ps: I was once a Christian

lanrexlan: Haha,Lolz.Abeg,unfollow the thread you've got nothing reasonable to say again than to twist,you are a chronic liar.Noblefada says Jacob is a liar and a fool that can't differentiate angels from god,pooooooo.

Don't mind the mumu, he has the holy spirit and we don't. So only him can understand the Bible.

Abraham, Jacob and the others that said they saw god are liars

noblefada: The topic of discuss is the bible, which u said u knew, but its funny how u tactically dodged all the questions I raised, although I didn't expect u to them, but just wanted to see that you're still very limited in knowledge concerning the said book.

wat question did u raise? I didn't read any question that needed my answers

here is how Christians think
"I understand the Bible because I have the holy spirit" an obviously more intelligent person comes "I understand the Bible better, because I read it in an unbiased manner hoping to learn more about the Jews and the foundation of christianity" the Christian argues "u have to be a believer before u can understand wat u read"

Now I wonder if Christians think they are smart with such dumb statements

It's just like saying
"you have to believe in superman before u can understand his comics"

tecmon: CAN ANY MAN EVER PLEASE 9JA

All U toilet mouthed azzholes badmouthing GEJ on this forum, what would have said if he went to Mecca with the two-faced muslims shouting peace and yet wasting southern blood every day. Is it a small thing that oil money taken from GEJ's backyard is used to sponsor thousands of hypocrites to go and commune with their blood thirsty demon god that is localised in the kabba stone 3 times every year for decades now. how many of you have complained of that , dont you guys need psychiatric evaluation why do we spend millions of our hard earned oil money to sponsor hypocirtes to go and throw stones at a concrete pillar in mecca, while the real devil is in their bedroom, and nobody talks?. Now for the first time a Nigerian president has decided to show the real God some respect at least (even if it is a show) and you open ur gutter mouths to ooze sh-i-t. WISE MEN LIVING IN FOOLS PARADISE !

We Nigerian pagans are also against Nigerian Islam pilgrimage.
But this is the president of an independent nation, must he slave himself to the Jews?
If the president can be this Slave minded then the greater population of Nigeria is doomed to mental slavery.

Can't he do pilgrimage in his village to the gods of his ancestors?

Aborisha all over the world do pilgrimage in Ile-Ife, I expect all Yorubas to honor the gods of their land.same goes for all Africans, we shouldn't be wasting money on pilgrimage to a foreign land to serve a foreign god when we have our gods.

MAXWELLOKUMA: are you an atheist?

No! Am a Yoruba pagan

harnnarh: hummmmm...whats making u laugh about religiondo u know your religion cant take u to heaven everything is all about your faith in God Tru his son jesus christ

Brainwashed fool
Jesus Christ my poo
So Buddhist, hindus, Aborishas, Muslims, Jews, atheist, deist etc. would go to hell because they don't believe Jesus is more than a dead prophet.

You really lack intelligence because ur christianity has succeeded in wiping ur brain

Allohrandy: I am sure you one of those dumb, stupid and f00lish pagans who don't believe in God. People like you will rot in hell. you can only be save from eternal torment in hell if you accept Jesus Christ as your lord and Saviour.

illiterate mental Slave
Pagans believe in God like I posted above Olodumare is the Yoruba God.
And we don't believe in hell.
After death comes reincarnation of the soul, the universe is a continuous process- God is eternal and so is the Omniverse.

Jesus is a gay weakling, already in the hell of the Jews

Jesus, real name Yeshua was the son of Mary and Joseph the carpenter and he was a Great and wise prophet blessed by God

However he was one of the numerous false Messiahs and he blasphemed against God by referring himself as the son of God, and Christians go further in blasphemy to call him a member of the trinity of Yahweh

Yahweh is in one unity and singularity, he is the creator of time, space and the entire universe is under his control, he cannot be born or die, he can't have an "only son" because everything and everyone are his sons and daughters.

Yeshua was a scholar of the Tanakh and as a child he read the Torah at the synagogue every week.

He learnt of the coming of the the Jewish Messiah in the Tanakh and claimed to be that Messiah

The criteria for the Messiah according to the prophecies are
1. He must be of paternal descent from King David, through the blood line of king Solomon

2. He is expected to reign as ruler over Israel

3. He is expected to lead the Jews to tgryf rebuild the temple

4. He is expected to reign at a time of peace

5. He is strictly to be the Messiah of Israel not the world

Now we all know that yeshua doesn't fit this criteria.

The Jews killed yeshua because he blasphemed against Yahweh and christianity is most
incompatible with judaism

Yeshua is not the Messiah, neither is he so the intermediary for mankind and God. even the Jews reject him as Messiah who would deliver them

The op is really confused
He must have recently been in an argument with a non-Christian and got humiliated

harnnarh: as for me...i blive in decency....if u are decent and modest in your dressing and appearance,,,u wont be lust after thereby cousing people to be tempted,,,,so i blive decency is d key and m not also encouraging d use of it,,it depends on your faith,,and holy spirit tell us things tru our conscience

No! The so called holy spirit is impotent,

Your conscience is wat tells u things not any holy spirit

nobilis: That's the question that needs to be answered. You don't just assume/believe that it is God just because the Bible said so. After all, in the Yoruba tradition, they tell how Oduduwa created the universe. And so many other cultures have such claims about their chief gods.

So my question is, what do we really believe?

Actually Oduduwa created only earth

The universe was started by Obatala

Allohrandy: It depends on which of the God you are referring to. Do you mean Allah, Jehovah, Buddha, Okija or Oduduwa? There are over a 1000 different gods so which one are you referring to?

Am sure u are an illiterate who knows nothing about religions.

You must be one of those ugly and foolish Christians who lack knowledge and believe he is superior to others


Jehovah is the Jewish supreme God aka "El". In pre-judaism in the land of Canaan and other Semite lands, El was the father of numerous pagan gods.

Olodumare is the Yoruba supreme God aka "Olorun". In Yorubaland despite Christianity and Islam invaded Olodumare is still the creator of all the Orishas

Allah is the Arab supreme God. in pre-Islam Arabia Allah was one of many pagan gods regarded as his children and siblings

Buddha is nt a god but a man who found peace and enlightenment, he performed miracles and was wise in his teachings but he has never been referred to as God and he is not worshipped, he is only a role model

Oduduwa is an Orisha nt the supreme God

African muslims and Christians are the most stupid and foolish people in the world.

They praise the foreigners
They worship in a foreign way
They worship a god as portrayed by foreigners
They hate their ancestors
They hate the religion of their ancestors and call their ancestors "evil doers" or "devil worshipers" but the truth is that Our ancestors were good men who lived in righteousness and holiness in the glory of God.

I advice all Africans to learn about the religion of their ancestors.
Learn and understand it before u start claiming "ogun is a demon" or "amadioha is from the devil"

Pls you all should be free, free urselves from mental slavery

Must u use Droid vpn to enjoy Mtn bis on Android? Or u can just create new apn with "blackberry.net"?
Pls which one works?

This OP is the worst and most discriminating one I've ever seen.


1. Christians think they are special
2. Christians think they are the only ones that know God
3. Christians believe everything in the Bible without reason(this Bible was written by jewish men not God, just smart men with manipulating intentions)
4. The entire Bible portray Israel as the holiest nation, and the only nation God as chosen over others
5. The Israelis are very racist and discriminative, they always claimed supremacy and uniqueness. It's no wonder the God of the Bible is discriminative and hates everything non-Israel
6. Christians would always say "only a believer can understand the Bible" but this proves stupidity because a non-believer must understand the religion before he can even convert into it.
7. Christianity is a lie and a fraud, it was made up by Paul and the Romans used it for their politics. You wonder why the Romans killed the followers of yeshua in the early days? It's because they knew the truth and began to preach against the Romans and their plan for using christianity as a medium to enslave minds
8. The Jews in Israel know the truth of christianity(yeshua was nt born of a virgin, she already slept with Joseph outside marriage, yeshua was murdered because he was blasphemous, he never resurrected, no one beside the apostles claim to have seen yeshua after his death.
9. The Jews are totally against Christians, they actually relate well with Islam but hate the guts of anyone that calls the dead Jewish peasant the son pm of God(yeshua is nt part id Elohim)
10. Every religion both man made(Islam, judaism and christianity) and pagan religions have righteous doctrine and teach to live with a good character with love, wisdom and understand. No religion is evil, Every religion has committed some evil that doesn't make d religion or the morals of the religion to be different from another.

Africans pls go back to learn the Ways of ur ancestors, our tradition, culture and religion is a part of who we are, we can't debunk one(religion) because the foreigners told us to.

U believe in Jesus/yeshua, did ur ancestors preach any Messiah?
Even the Jews don't believe he is a Messiah, so why do Africans believe this?

In Israel just about 3%of the entire population are Christians, the rest are in judaism or Islam.

I have a Jewish friend who told me that he would slap anybody who calls a bastard child of a prostitute the son of Yahweh.

11. Christians think they understand the Jewish Bible(tanakh/OT and some additional books nt in Christians Bible) and the god of the Bible well the Jews say the Christians are making a fun of them and spread lies about their religion

Mr Troll: Er. . . Just to be clear. Mohammed's tomb is also empty He flew to heaven on the back of a winged beast. CHECKMATE CHRISTIANS! Hehehehehehehehe

Yes I heard that before. It seems Mohammed resurrected after his death as well.

noblefada: Nope I can clearly tell u that the much you know still put you in kindergarten of bible school or knowledge, simply because of ur limitation. Like @olaadegbu said in one of his thread, knowledge in bible was far ahead of science before it caught with it. Do you know that thousands of years before it was discovered, bible clearly stated the earth hanged on nothing? the scientists can tell the age of a material but cannot tell when its first rained on earth, do you know that almost all of Jesus life & ministries were already played out in the OT Do you know, as was recently posted by one of you of a super earth filled with plasma water, that the earth was once exactly like that??!
I think I should stop here before I'm called a mad man!
But the truth is if you have a spirit based understanding of the scriptures, it will definitely blow you mind!!

lol Christians have a criminal way of stating things

They say "only a believer with the holy spirit can understand d Bible" that's actually a very dumb statement to justify their stupidity


U think the Bible is the only thing to have made scientific theories?

The Bible especially the OT is nothing more than Jewish understanding.

Go and interview an elder traditionalist in ur village you'll see how intelligent ur ancestors were in philosophy and scientific theories. The Jews are not even half as intelligent as Africans

I vote 2

Rexyl: I know whom I believe I am serving the living God. Turn to Him and He will make you too one of His own. All you need is serving Him in truth and Spirit. He is your creator, the only one you must worship.

No u don't know who u are, and you don't know what u serve.

I honor the God of my ancestors "Olodumare" and he is my "eleda"(creator) and the eleda of everything including the universe.

The Europeans have almost succeeded in painting our ancestors as evil men, when the white demonizers are d real evil, spreading lies and manipulating the minds of gullible Africans like u(rexyl)

God sees all people as his children not that he sees the Israelis as his children.

God loves u and ur entire race as much as he loves the Israelis

God has been present in Africa since the beginning of mankind.

Stop being deceived to think that ur ancestors are evil or they worship demons like they lie to u in churches.

Africa is blessed by God and he created the gods which we honor for our needs, he created the gods to control and run the universe and man can be happy because of them.

Not Jesus, before Jesus even lived or before christianity came to the world, humans have lived happily and we grew in the glory of Olodumare

I pray ur Ori can be awaken from it's slumber, and help u realize that u are living another man's life and being a slave.

Ase!

[quote author=Nigellus_Hosan]holy!!!
I claim it for ur family..
Loruko Jesu..[/quote]Lmao why fear?
Ain't u the advocate of hell? Visit the place of ur dreams

I would definitely succeed in bringing my entire family to the light.

Your Jesu is as weak as a dead cockroach

Seems u are Yoruba, good thing I've known u.
You are now among my list of potential reverts to the religion of our ancestors

Orunmila a gbe wa o

Rossikk: God NEVER ''instantly judged'' ANYTHING in human history. Just because it is CLAIMED in some dodgy foreign book doesn't make it so.

Don't mind all these slave minded Christians.
They would believe what foreigners say over their own ancestors

Rossikk: Well said, although I don't agree with your description of the president.

The thing is, we have to start moving away from these foreign religions. It is making us look very dependent and foolish on the international stage. There's no major nation on earth whose people worship anything BUT the Gods of their ancestors. Japan, China, India, Iran, USA, France, UK, you name it. Are we saying that none of those religions practised unpalatable stuff in the past? Of course they did. Christians and muslims did as well. But all these guys were allowed the independence to change their tune and 'clean up their act' along with the times, without throwing away the bathwater. Why should we not grant ourselves the same privilege? Fine-tune our traditional religions to come in line with the times, study them, research them, CREATE ''HOLY BOOKS'' OUT OF THEM?

A HOLY BOOK comprising ancient tenets and principles drawn from the rich Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Bini, Nupe, Efik and other cultures would be a lot more meaningful than this worshiping of a mythical white magician who promises to fly down from the sky to solve all our problems ''one day''.

Africa especially Nigeria shall be free from mental slavery. the gods of our ancestors shall reign again

ckkris: Jesus heals TODAY.

Jesus is just a gay that would surely bow to the awesomeness of the Gods of Africa

noblefada: My sincere apologies to you @alfalfa seltzer for terrible mix-up, was referring to the post by macof
I very sorry for mentioning u.

Yes it was me, and every bit of it is true.
The Jews in Israel know this, it's their history.

Moses was nt only a notorious terrorist but a dictator and he forced his man made religion on the Jews.

PS: I understand more of the Bible than u think, my high runderstanding of it made me realize the fraud of christianity

charlos14: nice Nigeria needs more partnership with israel...Israel could help us flush those boko haram b-a-s-t-a-r-d-s off the face of the earth........long live israel

See mumu
Israel would increase terrorism in Nigeria and aid boko haram

lanrexlan: Yeah,in the bible even when god was in a hot temper,he replaced himself with an angel.Exodus 33:2-3 (NIV) -I(God) will send an angel before you and drive out the Canaanites,Amorites,Hittites,Perizzites,Hivites and Jebusites.Go up to the land flowing with milk and honey.But I(God) will not go with you,because you are a stiff-necked people and I(God) might destroy you on the way.He was angry here,so he replaced himself with an angel.
Do God and Angels have the same face? Read this
Exodus 3:2-6 (NIV) -There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush.Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up.
So Moses thought,I will go over and see this strange sight--why the bush does not burn up.When the LORD saw that he had gone over to look,God called to him from within the bush,Moses! Moses!
And Moses said,Here I am.Do not come any closer,God said.Take off your sandals,for the place where you are standing is holy ground.
Then he said,I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham,the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.At this,Moses hid his face,because he was afraid to look at God.It was angel that first appeared to Moses in the flames of fire in the beginning,then reading towards the end Moses was afraid to look at God's face.Is the face of god and Angels the same?

The Bible has been altered to fit selfish needs(mostly political)

Moses was the first holy criminal
before Moses the children of Israel were pagans, and like all paganic religions they had multiple gods, that they called Elohim(children of El).
El was the father of the Elohim.
But Moses taught them to worship The Elohim as one instead of the numerous gods.
www.nairaland.com/1482409/original-religion-jews

I believe on many occasions in the Old testament like exodus 3:2-6 "angel" was used in reference to one of the "Elohim"

Many times Abraham and Jacob met beings referred as "Lord" and we all know that "Lord" is used to refer to "God"

Moses was just a chronic criminal and known to be the first man to establish a religion.

Abraham was a pagan but Genesis made it seem as if, He was a different from his people at Haran

Have u ever bothered to go to a shrine in ur village or interview elder traditionalist in order to learn about your ancestral religion?

Am sure u have not
You are just a foolish Vatican/Jewish slave who would believe a foreigner over his people.

you are a disgrace to ur bloodline and your ancestors wipe for u

Alfa Seltzer: So Jacob didn't know what he was talking about then?

Jacob must have been drunk.
Am sure Moses was too

vanariso: Israel is Jewish land and not a Christian land.....The present Bible as a whole contains the torah and the gospel....Israel- jerusalem has more importance to Muslims than Christians...The second most referred most after Kaaba in Mecca is in present day Israel...its the mosjid-il-Aqsa...built by Prophet Sulaiman and Muhammed Ascended to heaven with Angel Gabriel from this spot.

Don't fool yourself that Israel is a holy land for Christians....Christians must just find a way to measure up on pilgrimage. Haven't you wondered why Europeans or Westerners, even the Pope doesn't think much of Israel pilgrimage? There is nothing to it for Christians....honestly.....but , in the Nigerian context...Government must reel out funds to equate Muslims spending on pilgrimage.....after-all na national cake and we must share it equally.

Its funny how Christians are beginning to attach "JP" to their names after returning from Israel....just like the ,Muslims use "Alhaji"...

For so long....I knew JP means "Justice of peace"...in the then oyo state, even my in-law was appointed one...under great ceremony and you don't have to be a Christian.....its just an arbitration role.

So funny...after this pilgrimage, we shall have "JP President Jonathan" ........I dey laugh o!

The Jews are smarter and winning....have been able to slot their book(the Torah) into the Bible and have millions of Christians do free evangelism for them, now they are conquering in the front of Pilgrimage and foreign exchange for their country to build more weapons...hehehehehhhh Lol...I dey laugh o!

If you have been to Israel and you are honest, you will know better. Chikena!

You have spoken the truth.

Israel doesn't care about u Christians
They hate ur guts, I have a Jewish friend who would give u a dirty slap if u call Jesus the son of Yahweh in his presence

It's just because of the revenue they generate through this pilgrimage that's why they still allow it, if not as u enter Jerusalem u would be slaughtered and sacrificed

thoth: The irony is in reality the most potent curses and spiritual attacks I have seen have always involved Christian black magic and kabbalistic solomonic elements. When my friend was building his house in his village, anytime he starts his building he gets really sick and his laborers will either get sick or have motorcycle or car accident. It was terrible and it happened several times that we no longer believed it is just coincidence. Now I was born and bred in France, at that time I sincerely don't believe in this sort of things because studying colonial history in school we were taught that Africans believes in some silly non potent charms and that contributed to their lost of most anti-colonial wars.
Anyway that fateful December, I was in Nigeria and he consulted a native doctor who is related to him, immediately we went to the building site and the man asked my friend to dig at a certain location. Many people will not believe this(especially the Christian fanatics) but what was dugged out in two locations was :
1: a bottle with a crucifix inside it and some papers, and something like ash inside.
A piece of cloth(my friends) which was wrapped with a torn page of psalms from the bible.
My friends old picture with a pentagram drawn over it with some brownish ink(maybe blood)
among others.

2; white sand with a small coffin with crucifix tied over and over with a black thread.

Once these two bunched were burnt my friend continued building his house and we never heard any problems. To this day I have not been able to fathom how they managed to get a huge crucifix like that into the bottle.
I am skeptic until then, maybe I am ignorant because of the environment I found myself , maybe I have been dumbed down by the religion I was born into, But my question is how can you relate any of those objects to African Traditional Religion ?
I have witnessed some really demonic events all over Europe and all of them has to do with one or more Christian objects.

your testimony here proves that christianity can be used for evil.

thoth: The irony is in reality the most potent curses and spiritual attacks I have seen have always involved Christian black magic and kabbalistic solomonic elements. When my friend was building his house in his village, anytime he starts his building he gets really sick and his laborers will either get sick or have motorcycle or car accident. It was terrible and it happened several times that we no longer believed it is just coincidence. Now I was born and bred in France, at that time I sincerely don't believe in this sort of things because studying colonial history in school we were taught that Africans believes in some silly non potent charms and that contributed to their lost of most anti-colonial wars.
Anyway that fateful December, I was in Nigeria and he consulted a native doctor who is related to him, immediately we went to the building site and the man asked my friend to dig at a certain location. Many people will not believe this(especially the Christian fanatics) but what was dugged out in two locations was :
1: a bottle with a crucifix inside it and some papers, and something like ash inside.
A piece of cloth(my friends) which was wrapped with a torn page of psalms from the bible.
My friends old picture with a pentagram drawn over it with some brownish ink(maybe blood)
among others.

2; white sand with a small coffin with crucifix tied over and over with a black thread.

Once these two bunched were burnt my friend continued building his house and we never heard any problems. To this day I have not been able to fathom how they managed to get a huge crucifix like that into the bottle.
I am skeptic until then, maybe I am ignorant because of the environment I found myself , maybe I have been dumbed down by the religion I was born into, But my question is how can you relate any of those objects to African Traditional Religion ?
I have witnessed some really demonic events all over Europe and all of them has to do with one or more Christian objects.

your testimony here proves that christianity can be used for evil.