₦airaland Forum

filebe777: I can't wait for true federalism to happen.All the yorubas coming together as one.from there we invite our brothers in benin and togo and also the carrabean(trinidad and tobago,brazil et al).I see a beautiful nation with no hurdles one ideology reigns.
ODUA NATION
We will write our books,showcase our civilization and tell our stories the way it is rather than telling my kids how mary sclessors stopped the killing of twins in Nigeria(I want my kids to go to school and Read about the greatness of their people that long before mary sclessors.the yourabs stopped killing twins before the white man came (*p.s Read about ondo and ileoluji,why the call each other omo iya kan kan)
This beautiful yoruba stories let me see the greatness of my people rather than a pale skin white lady came to rescue the niggers.
I believe the yorubas will right these stories,make video games of their own heros(imagine playing shango combat on play station! Awesome and priceless.
We will build our skools,roads hospitals,utilise our resources gainfully etc
I'm I saying too much? Well I will finish by saying welcome to my new world
DAMN!!! I can't just live with the IGBOs.
Terrible people...... ERANKO NI WON!!!!

lertee: Now if you say kogi should go with SW,how many percent of kogi represents yoruba?
Do you think igbira,igala,ogorimagongo and other tribes there would claim yoruba(SW)?

kayking01: What an educative thread....@Op,more synovial fluids to ur elbow....i rep afonja!

Ibrahim mr fish: So,Kogi is now part of south ?I will really like to see what on earth,can make us joined the oduwa republic.U have to kill all able body men in Kogi for that to happen.Kogi,kwara and Benue are all north,accept that or put your region in hundred year war.We will never give up,what belong to us.

Katsumoto: Military in Kwara ? Are you for real? You want history to repeat itself?

Please give Kwara Agriculture.

olumidaie: if you wan to make an example, do not bring the most precious beings on earth, the ILAJES into it. How can someone wake up to remove an ofspring of Oduduwa and put him in another place. No Ilajes would deny his Yorubaness.

Even if we want to deny Yoruba, Ijaws would be the last of all people to join. After they attacked our land; despite the help we gave them in the ND struggle. The lawyers, advocates and Human Right activist that had the boldness to challenge Obasanjo for the Odi killing in 1999 were mainly Ilajes. Yet, they attacked us.

If you feel the troubles of the world is to much for you to bare, and you want eternal rest with Jesus, or Alujan, come to Mahin and shout "ILAJES ARE IJAWS". Then you would know whatsup.

priscasmart: Skelewu...Ive never really liked that song.

Plaigarism!... Shame on Davido
omo baba OLODO!

mazizi tonene: R u just a hater or what..if its dat easy y not shoot a video or turn 2 a producer....abi na sesan send u?

ona2: @Ajibam thanks. @macof, pls can you enlighten me a bit on her importance and her significance to today's christian? i guess i don't know my bible enough.

Rexyl: When you are still alive repent, get out of your backsliding and come back to God you have abandoned and Christian faith you have rejected. Because of what benefit will it be for you to gain the whole world and loose your soul in heaven. What will you use for exchange of your precious soul from hell - it is these words of life you are still rejecting. This is Christ message for you Mathew 16: 26

axion: The verse is a metaphor showing that tattoos are not bad in themselves, if God can use it in a way of speaking.

And your question also has nothing to do with me, I'm not a Christian.

axion: Do you understand metaphors?

Divepen: i know many people do not believe in heaven and hell but a man said he saw a girl of 6 years in hell
that proofs that i am accountable from 6..
so far rebecca brown got save at the age of four and i at the age of 6.. that means. we should say anytime from 4 to six because we have been able to discern our right from left

ona2: A friend recently named her baby girl Jochebed. I have been trying to get where the name is in the bible for while now. Pls can someone help.

axion: Leveticus 19:28 is about tattoos for the dead: applying tattoos on your body because you are mourning someone. Tattoos for the dead was a Canaanite pagan practice and their God wanted them to be separate from such. Nothing wrong with tattoos generally.

After all in Isaiah 49:15-16 even God said he cannot forget you because he has tattooed you on both of his hands.

kizmartino: christianity wasn't coined frm pagan practice ooo...

Sure there were mix-ups... Christianity is a true practie on its own..

Leave mithra outta this

Fulaman198: But I am one of the practitioners of those Abrahamic religions (Islam), and I know for a fact I am not perfect.

elopee3000: where was ori olokun when usman danfodio attack with horses everything about yoruba is weak thier gods re weak the people self dey weak like oladipo diya

kizmartino: yea to an entent you're right but the mixture of christianity with paganism in earlier times do not mean that christianity is false...

Sometimes too much knowledge could be harmfull..

Try judging from difrnt angles..

kizmartino: you're absolutely wrong..


Try Godnd see.....nature wil fail yuh..ther z alot to do wit jesus' name.....i have experience too much to bliv itz jus nature or illusion...

Not at all

9jacrip: I'm close to classifying you as a troll.

Erronrous and based on assumptions because they do not mirror your false claims?

Since you have refused to learn, I give up.

Anyways, have you ever attended any Itapa festival? If not then the next one is January, make sure you attend. It will provide answers to your confusions and you'd get the chance to meet people to interview and we might even meet and I'd take you to meet my uncles (which Obalesun is one).

So are you from Ife or no?

9jacrip: One thing I need to say to you is, do not call my veiw points erroneous if you have no means and hard facts to disprove them.

Having said the above, I thank you for opening this thread.

There's nothing wrong with stating I'm a devotee, I'm not just a devotee but from his lineage. If you need pictures to prove this, I'll be glad to share albeit I'd have to take them down quickly as I do not feel comfortable and never thought of putting pictures up on NL.

Truly I said Oduduwa must have used force to usurp power NOT claim the title of Ooni - how the title 'Ooni' came about is another topic entirely which I am not ready to debate, given how your thought process is shrowded in myths. I cited the 3 schools of thoughts bordering on Oduduwa's migration to Ife with the 3 stating he came with delegates/led a following. I also went further to state NO settlement/town/civilization would solely hand their sovereignty to a stranger/migrant without some sort of stiff opposition if not all out war and having said this which you still have a problem with sinking into your brains, I ask(ed) you to then tell me why Obatala was expelled if not for the stand off between both parties - remember Obatala was the ruling person in Ile-Ife at the time Oduduwa came. I then said Obatala was appeased, I did not say he begged to return/

I do not know if you're from Ife and if your elders in your family compound told you the history you seem so lost in or if you're from another yoruba town already and your people have the wrong history about Ile-Ife/Oduduwa/Obatala but like Katz, I'll try to exercise patience to school you like he does though it is hard for me.

1. I don't know what oral histories you heard but Obatala was living in Ile-Ife and was the ruling figure before Oduduwa came.

2. Yes Oduduwa did not come from Mecca (it is a theory that has been debunked severally), it is best his place of origin is left open.

3. The 3 theories about Oduduwa's migration states:



From the points above, I'll implore you to do the analysis yourself.

4. If oduduwa was welcomed at first sight then how come there was uprising between him and Obatala?

5. If had prophesied, yes but did Ifa prophecy when this political saviour would come and what he would look like? Please stop making claims you do not know except you want to supply me with the Odu Ifa that prophesied Oduduwa's coming and what it said/says?

6. Answer what made Obatala and his followers engage Oduduwa and his followers.

7. Sounds like a line from Christianity. Please stop making baseless claims, it is irritating


I beg of you, please be analytical, do not take whatever you were told hook, line and sinker. Because I'm from Ife and of Obatala's household does not mean I should take the oral histories as they are, I'll ask questions, dissect and analyse every bit, you should try it too.

Fulaman198: It really can be hard to determine due to the fact that no matter what faith we practise we will get it wrong. Human beings by nature are very imperfect. That is why for me personally, I respect everyones' beliefs because we are all human. No human being will ever practise their religion 100% correctly. If that is the case, then you have a perfect human being. There is fault in every man and woman.

donroxy: How many Literature of Yoruba Elders who are vast in ''Ise n Baye'' did you reviewed before you arrived @ your (ill) conclusions of you being the microcosm of Eledumare ?


2. Has any Agba/Awo ever confirmed to you that Eledumare doesn't exist but Totality of Human is Eledumare ?


He is even using ''LOGIC'' to analysed Esoteric belief !!! Then why ''esoteric'' when It could be logically deduced ?


Complete Nonsense of the Highest Order,attempting to brainwashed folks via validating Yoruba Esoteric Belief on Ill-Concieved Scientific Axioms !!! ..... He warned against abrahamaic but adhered to Scientific explanations .... Hypocrisy !!!


Microcosm ko, Metabolism ni , Total BullSh..it .... Science will only attempt to give explanation to Nature, Science can never answer completely all nature's phenomena !!!


Maaa waa keke re lo oo, even a Pry 5 Pupil must @ this ill-story full of misconceptions !!

Radoillo: I don't want to get entangled in Yoruba oral traditions (being a non-Yoruba myself, one could easily say i'm talking what I don't know). But it seems that prominent Yoruba historians among them Ade Obayemi, Akinjogbin, J.F.A Ajayi, Biodun Adediran etc agree that Oduduwa was not the earliest ancestor of the Yorubas, and that the coming of Oduduwa marked a new phase, but not the first phase, of Yoruba history. If you read the chapter, 'Yorubaland to 1800' in the book 'Groundwork of Nigerian History', Akinjogbin and Ajayi mentioned the names of some Kings who were said to have rule in Ile-Ife before the coming of Oduduwa. The last of these pre-Oduduwa kings of Ife (according to Akinjogbin and Ajayi's account) was said to be Obatala, who Oduduwa took over power from.

Anyway, many accounts (different accounts) of those very early times exist. One cannot quite easy say to what extent each of these accounts contain the truth. My opinion, though.