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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Muslims Dodge Explaining Why Jesus Wasn't Crucified Nor Killed by malvisguy212: 10:33am On May 02, 2019

Rashduct4luv:
Qur'an 3:54 says:
And they (disbelievers) plotted [to kill 'Iesa (Jesus)], and Allah planned too. And Allah is the Best of the planners.

Bring your reference for all these? All your lies or mistakes need to be debunked. All liars will perish in hell if they don't repent.

The Shahadah states that "there is no god worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad is His messenger."

1. Association of Muhammad to be a messenger and slave of Allah is unlike the three in one gods of the Christians!

2. Kissing of the black stone is an act of worship stipulated by the messenger of Allah.The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) kissed it, and his ummah followed him in doing so. No Muslim worship the black stone! This is unlike some Christians bow/genuflect to images of Mary and Jesus.

3. The Circumnambulation and the throwing of stone are Hajj rites and also an act of worship, part of the 5th pillar of Islam recommended for those who rich enough to do it.

4. Abraham slaughtered a ram too. Abraham was no polytheist. He never joined gods with God. He was not a trinitarian.

the black stone worship was practice in pre-islamic era, this hadith confirm it

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number
661:
Narrated by Abu Raja Al-Utaridi:
We used to WORSHIP STONE, AND
WHEN WE FOUND A BETTER STONE THAN THE FIRST ONE we would
throw the first one and take the
latter, but if we could not get a
stone then we would collect
some earth (i.e. soil) and then
bring a sheep and milk that
sheep over it, and perform the
TAWAF(circumnavigation) around
it.

This hadith confirmed that the black stone worship and tawaf was practice by pagan before Muhammad bring Islam to them.
In his book, “The Life of Muhammad,” the Egyptian writer, Muhammad Husayn Haykal ,whose works are based on the scholarly manuscripts of Ibn Hisham , acknowledged the following facts regarding the worship of the Black Stone :

"In fact, the Arabs venerated
these stones so much that not
only did they worship the Black
Stone in the Ka’bah , but also
they would take one of the
stones of the Ka’bah as a holy
object in their travels, praying to
it and asking it to bless every
move they made. "

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Muslims Dodge Explaining Why Jesus Wasn't Crucified Nor Killed by malvisguy212: 10:31pm On May 01, 2019

shadeyinka:
Interestingly, it was the deception of Allah that "created Christianity"! Allah decieved Mary and the apostles into believing that Jesus was Crucified and killed on the cross!

The damage had been done after 600 years and if Allah had been explicit in the Qur'an more than the bible, some of the problems could have been salvaged!

Shalom!

this Muslims heart is fill with hot iron , reprobate mind , they will never answer your question directly.

thank you and peace be to you too.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Muslims Dodge Explaining Why Jesus Wasn't Crucified Nor Killed by malvisguy212: 7:29pm On May 01, 2019

Empiree:
malvisguy212 in the house

How are you brother. Longest time. You should have been muslim by now with everything you went through some years ago

I knew you would eventually surfaced here

am good bro.and you ?

yeah, formal Muslim and now a Christian, very strong one indeed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Muslims Dodge Explaining Why Jesus Wasn't Crucified Nor Killed by malvisguy212: 6:55pm On May 01, 2019

Surah 21:105: “Before this. we wrote in the PSALMS,
after the Message (given to Moses): My servants THE RIGHTEOUS ,shall inherit the earth.” (Yusuf Ali)

In spite of the Qur’an’s agreement with God’s promise for righteous mankind, Islam totally disagrees with Christianity on the Doctrine of Redemption. why ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Muslims Dodge Explaining Why Jesus Wasn't Crucified Nor Killed by malvisguy212: 6:42pm On May 01, 2019

aadoiza:
So when Allah SWT said they killed him not but were only making conjectures, he was referring to the disciples abi? All of you be plosive

so Allah waited 600years before sending Muhammad to correct their misconception ? Those who died Prior to the coming of muhammed to clear this out , who's gonna take the blame for their unbelief ? Allah for tricking the Jews or satan ?

Family › Re: I Cheated On My Husband With A Guy From Work And I Don't Know What To Do. by malvisguy212: 9:42am On May 01, 2019

virgoquin:
A problem shared is half solved.
I don't see anything wrong in her coming here seeking for advice.

Nigerians are too religious sha they feel prayer is the only solution to everything.

So if she prays without killing the root cause which is lust she will be free

your problem is Bible illiteracy, LUST, yes Jesus has already solve the INTENT of sin, what cause adultery? pray against it and God will answer you.

Religion did not do anything, social media make it look like religion is bad .

Politics › Re: I Am Proud Of Buhari Proudly Nigerian On Zaynab Release - Fani-kayode by malvisguy212: 9:28am On May 01, 2019

bkool7:
You can't compare bh to Saudi government.

Bh doesn't operate with reason
The govt negotiated the release of all the girls but circumstance left Leah out.
And the govt has continually say they're still negotiating

so out of more than 100 girls in boko haram captivity circumstance left Leah out ? if they negotiate the released of the other girls, why can't they do the same to Leah ? in not less than 3days Zainab was released ( am happy for that,) its over a year now, Leah is still there, they, boko haram did not kill her, which mean they are waiting for the government to nagotiat which they fail to do.

Politics › Re: I Am Proud Of Buhari Proudly Nigerian On Zaynab Release - Fani-kayode by malvisguy212: 6:42am On May 01, 2019

chat2deen:
Welcome home Zainab. With respect to humanity abeg which country held Leah? Can u suggest a way to the FG on how to get Leah released?

how did they get the others girls released ?

Politics › Re: FG Hires Lawyers In Saudi Arabia To Facilitate The Release Of Zainab Habib by malvisguy212: 12:23pm On Apr 30, 2019

farem:
Wailing is a deaf, dumb and blind spirit.
How many days ago that you lot were posting hausa-Fulani names on the death row in Saudi Arabia prisons?
Suddenly that has been erased from your medulla just because one of them is being found to be innocent.
May we them abandon her because she is a northerner?

and what about the innocent Christian girl that is in boko haram captivity,? how long will she remained their ? what is buhari doing about her released ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Muslims Dodge Explaining Why Jesus Wasn't Crucified Nor Killed by malvisguy212: 9:37pm On Apr 29, 2019

shadeyinka:
Which of the two versions happened?

a very good question bro. but nairaland Muslims will avoid this like a plague

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Family › Re: My Grandmum Was An Idol Worshiper, Now This Is Happening To Me, Please Help! by malvisguy212: 9:12pm On Apr 28, 2019

michealdeco:
see them brainwashed slaves of white supremacy
You rebuke thy tradition and accept thy tradition of a far away land and boast around in ignorance
Smh

what is the punishment for not being a pagan ? I mean eternal punishment

Family › Re: My Grandmum Was An Idol Worshiper, Now This Is Happening To Me, Please Help! by malvisguy212: 12:00am On Apr 28, 2019

michealdeco:
This is very simple
Simply go back to your v8llage and appease the God your grandmum was worshipping and see things working out in your life the way it should
Dont let white supremacy destroy you
The Jesus you worship is still the God's of another race that was shoved down our throat

Stop detesting your root
You're the one holding yourself down
Thank you

THY LORD REBUKE THEE SATAN!!!

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Family › Re: My Grandmum Was An Idol Worshiper, Now This Is Happening To Me, Please Help! by malvisguy212: 11:54pm On Apr 27, 2019

nkemdi89:
Please go back to the village and do the right thing, go and serve the gods if that is the major problem , you can't mix omenala with Christianity. African traditional religion still exist , if ooni of ife as a traditionalist could marry a prophet, as long as there is peaceful co existence.

because thou was an advocate of the devil and if anything thou say is of no use to him, THY LORD REBUKED YOU SATAN

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Family › Re: My Grandmum Was An Idol Worshiper, Now This Is Happening To Me, Please Help! by malvisguy212: 11:49pm On Apr 27, 2019

@ PSTEMMA1960 you said this :

My grandparents gave birth to 11 children, as I
type now all 11 of them are dead, none of them
married b4 death, my dad was the only one that
married.....

it mean there is HOPE , my dad too came from an idol worshipper family , all of his brothers are dead, the reason why my dad is still alive is because he gave his life to Christ , he did not go to any Church or seek deliverance from pastor, he simply gave his life to Christ. he experience accident and sickness but today he is strong and healthy.

continued praying, God will keep you safe, trust God. don't give up, hold on to Him. thank you.

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Celebrities › Re: Esther Abimbola Ajayi Gives Alabi Yellow N10M For Treatment by malvisguy212: 7:12pm On Apr 27, 2019

DamilakToBam:
you are not too far from sense, pls get one.

honestly my brother, Nigerian or maybe nairalander are something els, if she buy private jet , they will complained. if she build factory , they Will say its tithe money use for her business. what do we as a Nigerian want ? I am proud to be a Nigerian but I am not proud of Nigerians .

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Education › Re: Favour Adenuga & Goodnews Johnson, First Class Students In Medicine, ABU Zaria by malvisguy212: 9:32pm On Apr 25, 2019

hrykanu231:
I thought since it was Zaria, I was gonna see names from a particular region. I now remembered they have long been married out at age 12.

I live in Kaduna, ABU is full of fanatic , if you count 100 Muslims before you will count a Christian, but surprisingly the two best students are Christians.

Car Talk › Re: Nigerians React As Dubai Police Flaunt Their Exotic Luxurious Police Cars by malvisguy212: 9:32pm On Apr 23, 2019

hisexcellency34:
They are not the only ones with sophisticated cars. We also have ours in Nigeria

bro the picture you uploaded, is it Kaduna ? Kaduna polytechnic ?

Celebrities › Re: Yul Edochie: Comedians Joking About Jesus Christ's Last Hours Are Wrong by malvisguy212: 7:06pm On Apr 22, 2019

Hadone:
But bible addressed him as the son of Marry

in which culture is man address by his mother name? if you don't know the father of Jesus you do not know the true God

Celebrities › Re: Yul Edochie: Comedians Joking About Jesus Christ's Last Hours Are Wrong by malvisguy212: 7:01pm On Apr 22, 2019

Hadone:
It's not good, they're mocking a holy prophet of God. May the peace and blessing of Allah (SWT) be upon prophet Jesus the son of Maryam

GET BEHIND ME SATAN

Christianity Etc › Re: The Two Gods Of Islam. by malvisguy212(op): 9:21am On Apr 22, 2019

happy Easter

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Some Bible Verses Truly "Mere" Opinions of Men And Should Not Be Followed? by malvisguy212: 7:45pm On Apr 21, 2019

midolian:
Of course! Why do we now call ourselves Christians if we won't follow the verses of the Bible in totality?

woman should not have authority over the man. if God do not want woman to preach He wouldn't have called Priscilla, Lydia, Deborah etc .

Joel 2:28.
"And it shall come to pass afterward, that I
will pour out my Spirit on ALL flesh; your sons
and your DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, your old
men shall dream dreams, and your young men
shall see visions".

God is risen many prophetic voice both men and women.

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Some Bible Verses Truly "Mere" Opinions of Men And Should Not Be Followed? by malvisguy212: 4:00pm On Apr 21, 2019

midolian:
Really?

answer the question I ask

should women be ban from praying or singing in
Church just because the Bible say they are not
allowed to speak in Church ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Are Some Bible Verses Truly "Mere" Opinions of Men And Should Not Be Followed? by malvisguy212: 3:55pm On Apr 21, 2019

midolian:
You be God P.A? What do you have to say about these verses in almost all versions of Bible?

Corinthians fall on you!

this verses you quote is not what you think it is, should women be ban from praying or singing in Church just because the Bible say they are not allowed to speak in Church ?

To interpret Paul’s meaning correctly, one must
examine this command in light of the culture and
situation of the believing community that this
epistle was addressing.

Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Key To Live A Christian Life ? Mount Sinai Or Mount Calvery ? by malvisguy212(op): 5:59am On Apr 21, 2019

malvisguy212:
Cc lalasticala

Politics › Re: Galadima: "Buhari, Swear With The Qur’an That You Didn’t Rig The Election" by malvisguy212: 7:46pm On Apr 20, 2019

StarUp:
Did PMB ever rape Galadima's daughter or wife before? Why is this man so pained about everything "Buhari"... We know they rigged the election and we have moved on... Which one con be him own?

so you are very happy that the election was rig ? or you hate it but could not do something about it ? don't you think is a good idea to keep on fighting till our last breath ? thank you.

Christianity Etc › Re: Major Differences Between Christianity And Islam by malvisguy212: 5:11pm On Apr 20, 2019

cleanvessel:
How nau bro.?
God bless you

am good. Happy Easter

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Christianity Etc › Re: Major Differences Between Christianity And Islam by malvisguy212: 3:47pm On Apr 20, 2019

cleanvessel:
I have also posted these messages on my WhatsApp and shared to my contacts. I think you too will do well by doing the same. I like the message to go across the whole world. I believe it will help the Christians not to fall into trap. A number of ignorant Christians, who believe we worship the same God converted to Islam.

In fact, there is an Islamic group named ACADIP, going around, misinterpreting the Bible to confuse Christians who are not knowledgeable and converting them. It is a pity to go from light to darkness. The Bible says my people perish for lack of knowledge.

Please brothers and sister let us spread the messages through WhatsApp. God bless you as you do.

nice one bro . long time

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Didn't Die: He Wasn't Even Crucified On The Cross by malvisguy212: 11:30pm On Apr 19, 2019

shadeyinka:
You'll notice that Muslims would not come to this thread because there actually is no convincing response to biblical arguments. The Ahmadias are even willing to distort their Qur'an to show that Jesus was crucified but fell into a swoon!

thank you my good friend. the best this Muslims can do is to throw insult at us. Happy Easter friend.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Didn't Die: He Wasn't Even Crucified On The Cross by malvisguy212: 10:46pm On Apr 19, 2019

can we put our trust on ONE man who lived on hundred of miles away from the place of event and 600 years after the event , and who by his own word was an illiterate ? some Muslims believed he was taking to the torture stake, some believed he was not taking to the torture stake, believed his face was made to look like Judas Iscariot, doesn't this sound like the account of an illiterate man who lived miles away from the event ?

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Didn't Die: He Wasn't Even Crucified On The Cross by malvisguy212: 10:20pm On Apr 19, 2019

shadeyinka:
You said it well bro!
But would they ever read to understand?
Would they ever put their faith to the test of reason?

They say "Mohammed is the last and final Prophet" and I say, if Jesus is not dead but alive till today with Allah, is He not the final Prophet?
I ask them, if Jesus would have to die in the future after killing the Daajjal, doesn't it imply that He has not completed His assignment and prophethood?

Who is the greatest Prophet? And they go round like broken record "...la illa illa la"!

I just pray for grace and mercy for them to find the truth that will set them free

it baffled me bro, here is this one:
the Qur'an record Jesus saying :

Surah 19:33: Peace on me
the day I was born, and the
day I die, and the day I
shall be raised alive!

the chronological sequence of event is Clearly understood here, " born, die, and raised alive" They try to explain away this Qur’anic verse by saying
that Jesus will die when he comes back the second time and then be raised back to life. They say this
with no rhyme or reason except to evade an obvious contradiction in the Qur’an.

but the same wording is use concerning the death of john the Baptist:

Surah 19:15: And peace on
him on the day he was born,
and on the day he dies, and
on the day he is raised to
life.

However, in the case of John the Baptist, Muslims scholars have no trouble recognizing the fact that this
verse is speaking about his immediate death.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Didn't Die: He Wasn't Even Crucified On The Cross by malvisguy212: 8:23pm On Apr 19, 2019

Surah 21:35: Every soul must taste of death, and We
try you with evil and with good, for ordeal. And unto
Us ye will be returned.
(Pickthall)

Muslims say Jesus is just an ordinary prophet, and He is just a man who according to the above Quranic verse will test DEATH. if I may ask, why did Allah leave ALL other prophet to die and save only JESUS on the cross ?

Surah 4:157: And their saying: Surely we have
killed the MESSIAH,Isa son of Marium, the messenger
of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they
crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only
in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge
respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and
they killed him not for sure.

If you read this account in its entirety from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, you will understand who they
are that are saying, “Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah.” According to the Qur’an, it is the Jews saying this.
Think! Would the hostile Jews call jesus the “Messiah” when they have rejected him as the Messiah? It must
be remembered that the Jewish religious leaders even objected when Pilate wrote a title saying, “King of
the Jews.” (John 19:19-22 ). It is, therefore, illogical for the Jews to boastfully say that “we have killed the
Messiah” when they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah in the first place. And if they did recognize him as the Messiah as this verse implies would they have killed him? whether they accept Jesus or not, the
Jews will never make such a statement, sarcastically or otherwise, regarding the Messiah because the
Messiah is a reverential figure for whom they waiting for deliverance. No Jews will boast that they have
killed the Messiah. And the Jews are still devotedly waiting for the Messiah.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Answers To Common Objections To The Existence Of God And Of Christianity by malvisguy212: 11:21am On Apr 18, 2019

Funaki:
17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known a man intimately. 18 But keep alive for yourselves all the young girls who have not known a man intimately. NUMBERS 31:17,18 sex slave things

Listen the Midianites were descendants of Abraham through Keturah, and God promise to Abraham was to preserve his descendant, if you read numbers 25, The midianites were corrupted and they are seducing isreal to worship others gods:
Numbers 25:1-3
1 While Israel was staying in Shittim, the
men began to indulge in se*xual
immorality with MOABITE WOMEN,2 who
invited them to the sacrifices to their gods. The
people ate and bowed down before these gods. 3
So ISREAL JOINED IN WORSHIPPING the Baal of
Peor. And the LORD's anger burned against
them.

You see, the isrealite were having se*xual
intercourse with the moabite women ,and this
women are baal worshippers , because God had
promise an everlasting covenant with Abraham,
so he want to preserve the midianites , and How
did God want to preserve the midianites ? By
preserving the virgin, who had not known man, in
fact this virgin had to wait outside israel for
PURIFICATION:

Number31:19
19 And all of you who have killed anyone or
touched a dead body must stay outside the
camp for seven days. You must PURIFY
YOURSELVES and your CAPTIVES on the third
and seventh days.
The captives are the virgins. And in number
25:17-18 it state why God command the israelite
to kill the midinites:

The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Treat the
Midianites as enemies and kill them, 18
because they treated you as enemies
when they deceived you in the affair of
Peor and their sister Cozbi, the daughter of a
Midianite leader, the woman who was killed
when the plague came as a result of Peor.”
The reasons are stated in this passage as:
(1)hostilities taken by the Midianites; and(2)
deception of Israel by them, in the ‘affair of
Peor’.

So God preserve the virgins so that the midianites will not be wipe out, for they are among the
descendant of Abraham.

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