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How? If I may ask?

Ideas and Ideals are not exclusive preserve of a few, even if it originates from a single entity. Kano State government sent reps to Lagos to learn about the BRT scheme. Aregbesola himself sent his waste mgt team to Lagos to learn about waste mgt.

I think it's honorable for states to extend this scheme to their domain as well. It's lofty, it's despirately need to be extended to all school children in Nigeria

dare2think: [size=13pt]I hope this progressive innovation does not get relegated into the shameful abyss called tribalism.[/size]

AGED? Whao!!! what a corollary in name....

aged: I quite agreed with Maku,Lagos state Governors has always based their achievement on Federal presence.I always wonder why Lagos Governors from Jankande,Maruwa,Tinubu and ofcourse Fasola has always been a performer.I think the adevantage they have has always been federal presence and the size of the state.Let fashla go manage any other state and u will be surprise he will be a failure.

I know you've not been to Lagos before and much of what you know is limited to your O'level pali...BRT lane is owned by federal govt Mr. Man don't introduce another dimension to stupidity......if Maku is dragging you down, you need not oblige him......

It is quite obvious that simple things are rocket science to you..... GOSH!!!!!

Soso990240: Oyah..those challanging d minister didnt u guys read dat d BRT lane is owned by d Federal government? What do u guys hav 2 say about it? Make fashola come claim am nah if na him project..over hyped Low performer.na only 2 de empower Agbero wit uniform(LASTMA) and collecting of tax and tolls him sabi..i hate pretenders. Now fashola ban bike(boxers/bajaj) dat was used to campaign for him,import him own bike which costs ntin less than 200k.who is he deceivin? D poor masses came out and voted for him,nw his administration is haunting them.

I agree with you. But the more noble reason is that the it makes logic and sense that states should manage virtually everything within their domain, all roads inclusive. We will have better view at accountability at this rate. When you give a minister a budget that is more than the allocation of some states, equity is reversed and looting will be the order of the day.

KnowAll: [size=16pt]That is why I say all federal roads within a metropolitan area of our cities should be given to state governments for maintenance and let the Feds maintain roads 10 km out of town and 10 km before the next town, that way the argument that "this road" or "that road" is a federal road, a road right in the middle of the city would not come up[/size].

@1MCN,

no matter how you flip it, Fashola aces Jonathan like the distiction between light and darkness. Pack all Jonathan's years as governor together and join it with Alams, it cannot be compared to Fashola's 1yr in office


I also want you to specifically name those Federal project in Lagos.......that Fashola has taken the glory?

1MCN: The achievements of Fashola in Lag is self-evident. So I dont think Labran should have used such a puerile flippancy to deride or water down the streaks of Fashola.
But however, I dont think Fashola and GEJ are on the same pedestal. Office of the Gov of Lagos state cant be compared with the most powerful office in the African continent. The challenges and the interests are parallel.
Then, we're talking about Fashola's 6yrs in office against GEJ's 2yrs. I think they dont add very well. Maybe we would need a comprehensive score card of Fashola's 2yrs in office too so we can better compare notes (putting other factors into consideration though).
Finally, I want to let some Lagosians here on NL remember that after ABJ Lag is the second state with the highest Federal govt interest and presence. When Fed govt does a project in Lag Fashola takes the glory. Well, insofar as the people get better live, the glory can go to anyone for all I care. But I think GEJ has done for Lagos more in this 2yrs than most other presidents.
God Bless Nigeria and Nigerians

@ Afam4eva, It's a pity the quality of reasoning on NL has gone to the dogs, else your "opinion" was never even of any qualitative value in the first place.

Followers of this initiative knew all along the thought process that went into the scheme; from the education summit chaired by Prof. Wole Soyinka himself, to the breakdown analysis and initiatives of actualizing this. There was the partnership with the company that made the device possible, the partnership with the company that setup a factory to couple, refurbish and repair damaged devices which has trained some OYES graduates.

Besides these has brought a win-win situation even to Nigerian companies. Contents where bought from notable book publishers, local softwared development companies designed the e-exam simulations etc

Understanding the structure, network and collaboration below, how is the sustainablility rocket science. The cost of the tablet is even the least and of least concern, simply replace it. Even a less than 30yr old Kogi State indigene is producing tablet "Inye", before you know it, the likes of Zinox, Pragmatic, Madam Seriki etc will flood the market with tablet and cost will drop.

Sustainability is much more in the structure put on ground and that was never hidden from the public domain. It's just like on NL is rocket science to do the simple, read.

Afam4eva: You have made a salient point. This is what i expected other people to do. Atcck my opinion and not me.

Genevieve fine pass Naomi Campbel and all dem knowlese

You guys are just plain ignorant or utterly useless.

The Lagos Island/Negris IPP plant powers 21 streets in terms of street lights and government infrastructures. The laws are yet to permit Lagos State to distribute to homes, not that it is impossible. We don't need the article to tell us what we that live in Lagos see everyday. The IPP power plant is just a stone throw away from my church. Have you seen any of the CBDs not with street lights

J12: You failed to understand what sincere nigerian wrote.
The plants were meant for government parastatals and infrastructures.
Eko ile said they'll power 21 streets, nowhere in the article did I see such. What I saw was streetlights

The values accruable from the 4MB is to sweet to ignore. Femi Pedro (Tinubu's Deputy Governor, impeached and now of the PDP folk)was the chairman of the special committee set up on the 4MB project. At pre-Fashola's goberniatorial debate, both Pedro and Fashola momentarily floored Jimi Agbaje on the issue of the 4MB. Jimi Agbje had voluntaired his oppinion that the 4MB is a white elephant project.

Femi Pedro, was even more vociferous. He said he was not suprised, that Jimi Agbaje's biggest experience was governing a 35man company, so would not understand the working of governing a state. Femi Pedro told the world that do we know that apart from international investors, 7Nigerian banks had committed to funding the 4MB.

My thoughts;
1. The 4MB is a mega necessity.
2. If you ask me, I think the project scope be expanded now or phased into 2. I think rail lines should also be build along that axis.
3. I lived in Ikorodu for 8years. After 8years, I recently visited areas like Igbogbo, Ijede, Bayeku etc and I was stunned at the extent of land mass.
4. The "volume of crowd" constantly moving to that area is jaw-dropping.
5. Match this with commerce and you'll be sure that the business activities this will house is going to be in tremendous figures.
6. I hoping to make inroads into Agri-Business, and Ikorodu is my target area for farm land. What do I see? Export. 4MB-to-Lekki expressay - Free trade zone ports. It does not take rocket science to see the way the new planners of lagos are thinking.

@ CyberG...... with your well analytical response here, I need not type further. Big up bro!

CyberG: This is fantastic, well-written and so well articulated! The use of vocabulary is absolutely brilliant and the content is consumately solid! For the watery commenters here, who are pushing the disgraceful point of view Professor Soyinka soundly debunked, pay them. O attention or dignify them with a response. They probably did not read or understand the crux of the matters effectively dispatched, except where they only found buzz words like "Nobel Prize", "Chinua", etc. Beyond the those, WS cleared up the air on issues relating to Nigeria's war history and it is germaine to point out that most of the points he made is similar to the position of those who have stood for factual history of the events that lead to the war and thereafter. In all kudos to Professor Soyinka, he is indeed a leavening light in every aspect of human endeavor and intelligence.

Your response is a great disservice to the quality of the interview...... Gosh!!!

patrick89: This is a very intelligent response! But then I don't see anything wrong in making achebe the father of African literature he deserves it, owing to the fact that he popularized African literature through his work, I have few questions here to ask who is the Queen of nollywood? Who is the father of nollywood? what criteria were used in given them the title? Now let me chip in one thing more, those so called *first to do that and do this in Nigeria how did they get to be the first? He(soyinka) clearly stated that in the field like this, even in the music industry there must be this kind of tussle, so Achebe is the father of literature and so what? He is a "storyteller" he (soyinka)used there to me is absurd! I rest my case here

Even in the days of LSTC, women were driving those long buses.

Demdem: There are different cadres/class in the society. If mine or ur class doesn't fit in, be rest assured that some will fit in. Besides we already have ladies driving these trucks. Is it not the same lagos we have lady mechanics that are being celebrated. There is dignity in labour. Again I reinstate that nothing is wrong in ladies driving those trucks especially if they are new.

Do you think you give jobs for giving sakes? Some of you with ridiculous submissions at times...... Even in foreign countries women are truck drivers, loggers, train drivers, in the Military, pilots etc. The fundamental thing is that they are gainfully employed to make the society a better place.

The average train driver in UK earns over 25k-30k pounds per year (some average bankers in Nigeria don't earn that). So talking about not wanting relatives in "what situation" is plain thoughtless.

deols: The government should give them better jobs. Many people saying good move wouldn't want their female relatives in this situation.
Imagine any of them being pregnant and driving trucks.

Bull.crap. you don't make sense to me.....[quote author=_BuBBle_]. what is wrong with engaging them in offices, and ensuring that since they can drive trucks they shd use their initiatives for development and fighting corruption. Women shd appear elegant(not ashawo either) at all times not like agbero,that is my ownooo[/quote]

This is a case of "waxing" gone wrong. To me you're trapped o! You may have to continue "waxing" that "arse" and I'm scared for your girl.........[quote author=amuneke-uto]my female boss was initially hostile. i slept with her hoping to win her over. she is now excessively jealous and critical of me.[/quote]

I started out working under a female boss. Well the insecurity was always there. She was supposed to train me, she did, but held something back for her aces. Mostly had to tactfully extract somethings from her, but she was not the nagging type.......my girlfriend (now wife) didn't like her initially. Felt there was something wrong with her..but she wasn't the nagging, wicked type.I guess just insecure. 13years later, I've moved across 3 departments, she's still rooted on a spot.

90% of the female bosses in my company have been and still devil's incarnate. There is this young female boss in our office, OMG.......she's so skilled in everything other than the job. She is so wicked, none of her subordinates has gotten promotion in an average of 4-5years. I told a collegue that they day she's either transfered to my department or me to hers, I will start writing my resignation letter.

Female bosses who "waxed" their way to the top are hardly an good. Some are damn lazy, clueless and annoying. A female GM, tactically "escaped" from the scene at the Performace Review Meeting, when she saw the "heat".....But there are some who are pretty nice. There's this lovely female Boss who is a "Jayejaye lady". Her subordinates are just enjoying. She's hard working, loves life and fun. I recall when she rated one of her staff 4.3 on a scale of 5 and recommended him for promotion. HR rejected the appraisal as being overtly generous. Guess what! She rejected HR's position, sent it back and told HR that she's done a professional assessment of the staff and stands by it. HR had no option but to promote the guy.

Hope you're not talking about my office

PrettySpicey: Though a woman and strongly believe in GirlPower. But my experiences with female bosses have been real terrible.
Last one was the Head PA, heading us junior PAs and Secretaries. This woman ruled that office like she was ruling her home. It was be in her good books or suffer in that office. I had my Confirmation as a staff postponed by over six months because of this lady. And you can't go behind to any of the Top Bosses and make a head way. It was that terrible.

Also had another experience with a 'frustrated' married female boss in 2008 who was also No1 gf of the Company Director. Every other female employee, especially us single ladies then, were a threat to her 'glorified' position and she made us suffer for it.

But I've also known ladies who are secure in their positions and truly God-fearing. Women who are truly hardworking and focused, with them as your boss you could build a good career. Unfortunately, they are so rare.

Ladies, we got to chill and really be the BOSS without bias and insecurity. Just LEAD, following God's guidance.

@ Okija_Juju,

The day I saw Diezani-Allison's PA carry her hand bag for her @ NOG last year, I thought to myself "this guy is fvckd"

Okija juju: I cant work under a female boss. Not because I'ma chuvanist, but simply because women in power turn me on. Diezani-Allison is one of such women. There is just something about boss women that I love.

Should I ever have a female boss, all I would be thinking about is ploughing her. Nothing else.

Well that's if its' not located somewhere else....like underneath the foot....

Our Yansh: Between ur two ears is something called a BRAIN. Its meant to be used.

cogitoErgo: Henhen, which state is rectangular but I got ur idea
o! (its secular)

For me it's not even about studying abroad or not.......it is the wrong perspectives I see people ignorantly puting to things. Today opportunities are more gloabl and world is turning more dynamic. More average families are sending children to schools in Ukraine, Russia, Malaysia, India etc giving them more global exposure, more opportunities to compete and better footing enroute leadership. That for me we should chanell our energies on. How do I strategically position myself and children. I was impressed when a senior friend (who is an average hustling business man, drilling boreholes) told me his first son is now in Ukrane studying Aeronatic Engineering....in my days those were dreams in the air......

Urine: I don't understand this? What's the big deal about studying abroad? I attended a good school in the UK and non of my course mates was a child of a political office holder, tuition was paid by our parents and most of us are from average families,other guys were on scholarships. Moral of my story? If your parents can't afford to send you abroad, work had so you can win a scholarship and stop wasting your time on this thread.

@ Anonim

1. The Late Barr. Segun Awolowo (Son of Late Papa Awolowo) studied abroad
2. Architect Muyiwa Ige (Current Commisioner in Osun State, and son of Chief Bola Ige) studied abroad.....

anonimi: And there I was thinking you would prove my earlier assertion that you are one track simpleton seeking others like yourself.
Did I cut you too much slack
This wan wey you dey defend music study so much, abi na music you sef dey study for obodo oyinbo land?

[b]BTW, if our yoruba leaders REALLY mean their bravado talk about true FISCAL FEDERALISM let them renounce federal allocation from Niger Delta's oil wealth and rely on their much vaunted IGR and locally generated VAT. Then we will know they are not doing typical omo eko/yoruba shakara (empty bluffing). The massive achievemnts of Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo in just six years (1954-1960) as Western region premier some 60 years ago were done with only agricultural revenue WITHOUT federal aka Niger Delta oil revenue.

https://spurmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Late-Chief-Obafemi-Awolowo.jpg

Meanwhile it is good to note that the real progressives of Awolowo, Jakande, Bola Ige, Ambrose Alli etc focused on mass education leading to dominance of the SW plus Bendel state of the academics, civil service, parastatals and organised private sector (OPS) unlike the current crop of scammers masquerading as progressives who are nothing but AKOTILETAs (prodigal sons).[/b]

@ Mcleo007

1. Out of all the arguements in opposition(minus the hopeless whinners), I found yours the most logical.
2. I disagree with you though.
3. Leadership and it's price is not stereotype, not fixated on a common path and not one way traffic.
4. Yes, it is fundamental that our leaders fix the rotten state of the educational system. I hold no brief on them for that. Whether they've done it, are doing it or are not doing enough or anything at all a different ball game entirely.
5. Truth be told, each man has perogative of how, he'll raise his child. It is in each man's dream of giving the child the best quality education and quality of life.
6. Over 90% (my data) of the leaders in focus had children not studying here. The Clinton's daughter left the shores of America and had her degree in UK. Many of the Ghandi's children studied in UK, Italy and America. Was this in any way reflective of how the fix their local problem?
7. A Unilag Prof, whose daughter bagged a first class, sold one of his properties to send the girl to Havard for PHD. Not long bank PHB made provisions for loans for those wanting to study abroad.
8. The reality is that the decision on studying abroad or not is private.
9. What we fail to realize is that Tinubu's pact with her daughter, we know nothing of. The girl is probably a US citizen, details of her school fees we don't know. We even discountenance the rigor she went through to make the admission cut (it is even more difficult than many schools in the world). It is no hidden secret that Tinubu was already a wealthy man before ever venturing into Politics prior to 1992. We make stupid claims that the money is from Lagos.
10. It is on record that Tinubu is the first governor to return Mission schools back to the owners, Built the first standards of Millenium school models, started the scheme where government pays WAEC fees for all students in government schools.....that in itself for me his contribution, someone else continues till the education system is fixed. It is not until his daughter goes LASU that will fix the system.

Mcleo007: I see you fail to pick the point people are trying to make on this thread, and I know why. You misplace fortune for opportunity. Those two, although are conjectures in relative senses, mean different things altogether. Yes, you schooled abroad, nobody has a problem with that, and many of your colleagues like yourself were of average homes. That's fair enough. Now, the point you missed centers on leadership and position. Leadership or being in position of leading others come at a price. The price is leading an exemplary life, owning up to the ideals that benefit all. If you know you have nothing to contribute to the common lot, do not show your face. That is the problem with politics in this part of the world. The leaders see themselves as demi-gods and view doing their functions as serving privileges to the people who elected them into office. How many times do you hear Obama or David Cameron commission a project? Those things are elementary and hardly spoken of. But here, our culture of celebrating mediocrity continue to prevail. The leaders see any thing they do as privilege to the people and not them exercising the function of why they are in position.

3 of my siblings did school abroad. And yes, my parents are not politicians. They simply struggled to raise us the way they could afford to. My siblings who schooled abroad do not in any way feel they are better than i am, nor consider me inferior to them. We live our lives for ourselves. There is no problem schooling abroad, afterall, there are many
british people who school in the US and other European countries. What we are simply outlining borders on leadership by example. These people are aware of the rot in the system and do not see any need to address them. They let it be, despite it being their duty to cob. Why then should they exempt their own children? Practice what you preach IS THE GOLDEN RULE.

believe it... I am talking to you, daft thoughts and suppositions of yours needs help

50calibre: I refuse to believe you are actually talking to me, you can't possibly be that stu*pid.

With due respect sir, I am not as old as you, but pretty old enough to know virtually everything that happened under military regime from Buhari to Abdulsalami very well.

I know about the struggle that everybody went through. I know about how we all were almost killed. My bus was stopped mid-way near Toyota bus stop enroute Osodi, and I walked from that spot home to Ketu amidst shootings and the likes.... but I am not talking about us....

I am talking about those who notably confronted the military. Those who were targeted to be killed, yet escaped. Those who ran overseas, floated Radio Kudirat with their resources etc.....

Tinubu is on record to have financed many of the NADECO exiles when they fled for their lives..that you can't deny.........

....come to think of it, save for your posts on NL lately, I never heard of you, not to talk of the days of the struggle.

musiwa26: mapet, how old are you. do you know those who confronted the military. We did. not the nonsense you are written about. most of this people sat in thier houses and they claim credit for what they never did. we lost classmate doing that. so dont tell story , you do not know.

You made me remember,. a bullet nearly kill me. I would have been killed because of this..


Why i weep when i saw lagos school. even under the military, it never went this bad.

I cant imagine human can do this to other human. even when the military was in power. they never allow it. it is a shame.




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....you've not finished....she will one day decide to join politics, make it to senate, become a minister or deputy governor.......

To every dividend there's a price. Let's face it, in NADECO days when Tinubu and co, confronted the military, put their resources in the struggle...where was your father or my father.....

I remember we had this discussion in my Bskul days, talking about the fact that the late Tayo Aderionkun and Fola Adeola practically own 30% of Banana Island. The critical question is at SAP era, why didn't our fathers do all that was necessart to secure banking license......

For me we need to study and understand the balance and game of power. The rich raise their kids with different perspectives from you and I. Tinubu's daughter need not study any of these courses we struggle to study and afterwards bask in the Euphoria of the accompanishment. She's made for high stakes. She need not study medicine, law, engineering etc. Truth is she's never gonna use any of those. She'll hire people to do all that for her. Pray tell, check the Royal lines, why do you think they study course like music, classiss, History...etc They are meant to understand the history of the Royalty they are born into.
They are taught in a different line. They are trained to continue to sustain and increase wealth.......

You and I need to change our orientation. This "cry of the poor man" is useless. We need to get out of the rat race. My two kids are Havard and MIT bound and I've started the savings already.

occam: Truly, Nigerian politicians and pseudo elites are ruthless and merciless. How can you spend over $35,000 a year so your daughter can learn to play the clarinet, flute or cello? Instruments that any North American child can learn to play for FREE in junior or high school.

And in the end this girl will be appointed Managing Director in one of her farther's money laundering companies

Men! the game is rigged in Nigeria.

... you know what, tell your dad that he should join politics as well. This whining wount heal your wounds.

50calibre: Education paid for with the money of poor Nigerians. Aren't there Nigerians in that university to make that girl feel bad about her thieving father, and probably not allow him show his face at her graduation?

@ Ihedinobi,

You're right and I think if the writer passed thru ABP, he's not be using such erroneous caption

1. You don't need to go to LBS to understand simple business concept of understanding the market space and first mover advantage, not to talk of creating the market space

2. Smart companies have always done scenario analysis. Shell and Mobil had forcasted a surge in global crude oil per barel price to a region of $200 15years before it happened. It's in the Havard Business Review Case studies taught in many top Bskuls....our challenge in Nigeria may be that we learn many things way too late. If you consider the economic indicators and the SPEB of business environment, you will be able to predict some trends with some degree of certainty. Dr. Doyin Salami of LBS had predicted the crash of the stock market well long before the crash. He told virtually all his classes before the crash.....the fundamentals were not just right

3. For number 3, it's not new as well. In some of business climes and "gift expecting" cultures, middle east especially, you make provisions for such.

4. Apart from the fact that number 4 is universal, it's also one of the "48 laws of power".

Ihedinobi: I think LBS teaches those principles too, Mynd.

It's all encapsulated in "stay current with the realities of your business environment so that you can harness them properly for your objectives".

Some of the solutions the writer offered may want reviewing though.

However, good one! Thumbs up.

....and in your uninformed and crude rationing, no one ever told you that that same recycling plant that was run aground and made commatose by the military government and focusless civilian government in Lagos was revived by Tinubu and Fashola has upgraded it into one of the major trasfer loading stations?

So of you guys are simply pathetic with the way you spew and spread half-truths and false information on NL. Some rabid lappers will who've never been to Lagos will pick this up as truth......

anonimi: Did Lateef Jakande not build recycling plants while he was governor of Lagos state over 30 years ago
I remember at least one such plant betwen RT Briscoe and Oshodi, close to the army barracks/school. That was before Ayatollah Buhari's coup and he was jailed with other UPN governors who were delivering to the masses while his fulani brother, president Shagari was allowed in house arrest.

An action UPN governor with less REAL budget per capita (annual budget divided by population and adjusted for inflation) did MUCH MORE than these latter day progressive PRETENDERS who depend on propaganda to continue hood winking their mugucious followers.

I lived on Number 1 Ikosi Road for about 6years, trust me the stench was something else. I remember when NAFDAC came to burn some fake/Expired drugs siezed from Idumota, OMG...Image inhaling various drugs while breathing, COdine, Cough syrup,lots of them......

The biogas coming out of that place is ahuge resource and Lagos State is not doing anything extraordinating by turning it into value. It's what any sane government will do.

BarryX: Hope it is sustainable in the long term. I think this has been on the pipeline for quite awhile. Also hope this will reduce the stench that oozes from that Olusosun dumpsite this rainy season... Billingsway Oregun always feel the killing stench effect.

But why hasn't GEJ said anything near this does that not tell you something?

billante: TO TO TO....If its GEJ govt that said to now all these ACN clowns will start opening their gutter mouth!

like someone said in previous reply when the project is up and running they should wake us up.

Even though being a Landlord is not rocket science, not exclusive preserve of some and what we desire all man to be, trust me,YOU ARE NOT A LANDLORD.

nony30: @edenitis what makes ‎u think trutalk and myself are •̸№t house owners?we don't have τ̲̅ȍ parade our achievements.Some of ‎u small boys who managed τ̲̅ȍ pick up some lucky cash from a lucky deal now want τ̲̅ȍ become millionaires tru collection of rent. •̸№, Į̸̸̨ƭ doesn't work like that.Building a house is like choosing τ̲̅ȍ tie up ur money in an investment that will grow overtime instesd of living Į̸̸̨ƭ in a bank where Į̸̸̨ƭ depriciates.Or haven't ‎u heard of rich men who just put tenants in their houses τ̲̅ȍ avoid decay?@ bigheart,pls act d name and think like a human •̸№t a beast!