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@Kettykings, I know you're wont to throw textbook stats at us, but you need to pause there. Per capita income is not an absolute and has its flaws, hence cannot be relied upon as them only source in determining poverty level of states. Well that's where the federal bereau of stats differs from your elementatry economics kettykings: if big Budget does not translate to good living then Per Capita Income definitely does |
It makes no difference to me too. In Gbagada, we have light (power) in the afternoon, when all have gone to work, I bearly get home to see 1hr of "light" then it's taken and the cycle continues. Thank God my family's on holiday, me self go kuku vacate home be dat...... |
Supported. In addition, if you have some money, get your lawyer to produce this story of yours in the dailies. Make a lot of noise or else, you'll loose out, cos of the seeming inpetitude of some staff that should have been sacked long ago. I know that some staff of banks use customers funds for private runs, especially accounts that are left domant for a long time; people living overseas etc.... hectoro: Get a serious lawyer and sue them for the embarrassment and inconvenience!! Lousy banks |
I am suprised at this. To the best of my knowledge, the Anglican Church dont do mass wedding..... |
Black babes are even worse....... they come at you like hurricase and leave you with absolutely nothing. May be better with white folks who will at least leave you with something[quote author=Okija_juju]And he is on his way down again since he has decided that it is only Oyinbo Kpekus he will be shining.. ![]() Why wont brothers learn that White girls are the devil?![/quote] |
not impressed |
1. It is either ignorance on your part or selective prejudice to equate an isolated picture as the basis of your arguement that e-tablet initiative was not thoroughly thought through 2. The extract below show that the e-tablet is part of a holistic education strategy to address the deficit in the education system. First off, the current approach of the State of Osun is borne out of the recommendation of the committees of the summit. These are ideas collectively arrived at by the stakeholders 3. During this period, the state of Osun was not an exception; the quality of infrastructure in public schools nosedived, including the state-owned tertiary institution. Most of the schools were turned into kangaroo certificate- awarding centres. Osun, which used to be a pride among its peers in education, became one of the least performing states, as only 3 percent of its candidates in the 2010 West African Examination Council (WAEC) secondary school certificate exams had five credits, including English Language and Mathematics.[quote author=Okija_juju] From the picture posted by Evanscjmac, its obvious that Osun has just put the cart before the horse. If you notice, the one question we have been asking is if Tablets are the immediate need of Osun public schools. The cost implication of such a project can also not be ignored especially as there are other more important fundamental & cost-effective projects that need to be done in these schools that have not been done. These Tablets are good, infact I am sure some students have not let theirs out of their sight since they received it. However, this is a case of doing the right thing at the wrong time. Looking at it from the perspective of a student, this is the best thing the government has ever done for them in their lives. Atleast now they get to own a sophisticated gadget. I am very happy for them. [/quote] |
Bros, Which one is your "informal" school Emmzhy: Dat's my formal schoolDat's my formal schoolDat's my formal school |
Fair enough, but I think you're overating the GPD concept. I undertook to quote some wikipedia clarification on GDP below "Gross domestic product (GDP) is the market value of all officially recognized final goods and services produced within a country in a given period of time. GDP per capita is often considered an indicator of a country's standard of living;[2][3] GDP per capita is not a measure of personal income (See Standard of living and GDP). Under economic theory, GDP per capita exactly equals the gross domestic income (GDI) per capita (See Gross domestic income)" My submissions are these; 1. Using GPD as a measure of the potential capacity of an entity does not give the full picture 2. Even if I'll take your GDP analysis (which I wont)GDP submissions are after the fact. So they are based on previous data 3. I was of the impression that the investment in education as currently done in Osun State will go a long way in enhancing the future GDP of the state.[quote author=Okija_juju]Omo!! To answer you all these comments go hard.. but I will just tackle point number one for now.. How wise is it for this state to add such a recurrent expense to its miserly account?![/quote] |
Using "eason's systems analysis", it is clear that you are simply reasoning amiss adim2: Using easton's system analysis, it is clear that this project was a top down approach project and there was no demand from the immediate population but rather a thought that took place at the black box/political system which just came out as an output |
1. The quality of education is obviously not supposed to be determined by tablet and laptops, neither is the laboratories, teaching aid, field trips, etc. They are all aids to qaulity education so disparaging one at the expense of the other is really flawed 2. A student with Opon Imo is not necessarily better than those without...that is not the objective. Rather a student with Opon Imo, most likely has the knowledge exposure to his contemporaries in many developed countries, local flavour and aid to help his learning and better chance at passing WAEC, NECO and Jamb 3. Why are so jumpy to know the immediate impact of programs like this?? that in itself is wrong. These are plans that address long term education/learning gaps. Besides the value offering are multi-dimensional. It's probably not ony for University....... gotta catch my bus...stay tuned [quote author=Okija_juju][b]Giant leap?! I laugh in french... You may also not be informed that the quality of a persons education is not determined by Tablets and laptops or any other fancy gadget. The introduction of Tablets to minorsin schools is definitely a new concept, but does not immediately translate in 'BETTER QUALITY' education. You need Laboratories, teaching aids, field trips, visual aids, qualified teachers, qualified guidance counsellors, e.t.c. You say 'many of these students would be influenced by this infrastructure', and I say hmmm.. Really?! How?! All that these tablets seem to be from all discription are simply digital textbooks. So its no more a motivation to a student than paper-textbooks. The young student that passed microsoft exams didnt own an 'Opon Imo' or whatever its called. This device is not a solid replacement for textbooks and libraries. If those devices came with internet access, I would have backed off because it immediately puts the world at their finger tips, but if I should ask you now how a Student with 'Opan Imo' is better than a student with 'Paper-textbooks', what would you say?! You even forgot to comment on the cost implication of spending 40 million Dollars (6.4 billion Naira) on these expensive toys that would depreciate faster than a pirated copy of Ababio Chemistry textbook and Nelkon physics textbook. Can Osun afford to add 2 - 3 billion Naira to their annual recurrent expenditure for Tablets?! Are they that wealthy?! All I have stated can only be wrong to a one-track minded fellow. There is no questioning the fact that many recipients of those tablets have probably not slept a wink since they got it due to sheer excitement. But the fact that you read your 'New General Maths' textbook off of a Tablet does not mean you are gonna understand it better than the guy who read his off of a paper-textbook, hence the questions 'what is the standard of public school education in Osun State?'. Ekiti State gave out 'Solar-Powered Samsung Laptops' to students a few years back, how is that programme today?! How sustainable is this tablet programme and at what cost?! How has the Osun State education system been adjusted to properly integrate this new technology?! How durable are these tablets (especially as they would ba handled by kids)?! If you cant see reasons in my questions, then there really is no pint to this discussion.. [/b][/quote] |
1. What is "basic laptop"? 2. The concept was not to improve programming or "Solid or liquid" IT skills, but to enhance learning. so your supposition is realy defected and wrong on arrival mrjingles: Good plan but...How about buying basic laptops with the money, install a solid internet backbone and fund a serious curriculum on software programming and other solid IT skills? The students would gain much more from that. |
@ Okija_juju, You have made some needless assertions, baseless points, raised unnecessary fear and put things in wrong perspectives 1. If Osun has added 10million Us dollars in recurrent expenditure to better the lot of their children, clearing evident in a initiative to enhance their learning at no cost, how is that a bad thing ![]() 2. It is even not a worry if Osun State spend the money year in year out. first off, this is the only year they'll make huge capital investment in procuring the device, as they have to give 3 sss clases in one full swoop. subsequent years (depending on how long they intend it to last) they'll only have to bother about the entries alone. Now if a state has boldly committed to do that, the question of "if the state is wealthy" is misplaced. Not all state are rent seeking. Not all state depends only on the FG allocation alone. If after 2yrs of planning, that was spunned out of 3day education summit, that produced a 7-10man committee of accomplished men and women, who thought through and made recommendations on the education strategy for Osun State, then your fears are seemingly 2years late. It is unfortunate that many of you did not following the history of the Opon Imo and only raising doubts that has been cleared 2years ago 4. The Tablets are not meant to last forever. They probably have 3-year life span. In the strategy, there is provision of transfer of knowlege for quick repairs and simple maintenance, which in most cases will be done by indegenes of Osun. Some of the OYES graduands have been trained on repairs works. You ask some ridiculous questions. The e-tablet will break, will damage in some cases, but these are part of the costs of ownership, which has been factored. SSS students are not kids. These are people that have flooded cyber cafes all over the countries, these are people that operate PCs even better than many of us. These are people that have used cell phones and ipads either in secret or openly........ If any of the recipients misplaces or damages his/her tablet, then if he/she desires, foot the bill for replacement. But will these projected isolated events outweigh the proposed value ?5. Electricity to charge them is a non-issue. Most of Osun students are rural dwellers OMG this is the height of crude ignorance and arrogant display of illogic...6. It is even sillier to alledge it was not well thought through when obviously it's your laziness to find out what was actually done in terms of conception and planning that is now being executed 3.[quote author=Okija_juju][b]Chai!! Nigerians are in deep trouble... Osun state just added atleast 10million US dollars to their recurrent expenditure. Let me explain.. So tablets were handed to students in secondary school today. We all forget that tomorrow, this set would pass out and another would come and they too will need tablets as well. That means every year, osun will fork out millions of dollars to buy them tablets. If the state is that wealthy, then no problem, but you and I know that osun is far from that. Secondly, what's the quality of the schools in osun state? Atleast rivers state governor has built solid structures and equipped them such that will in 10years, many sets of students will meet good schools on ground, what of osun schools? Rivers state even provides books and uniforms free to students as well. 40 million dollars would have set up a good statewide I.T structure in all the schools that would have served many students for years. Tablets are like phones. They are good but come with issues. Some will break, some will crash, some will get damaged some will get missing. What service and replacement plan was set up for these tablets if any and how accessible is it to all osun students!? Wouldn't puting 100 internet enabled computers in all schools in osun state have been cheaper!? I love this concept on its surface value, but in the long run, sounds like penny wise, pound foolish. This feels like a white elephant programme by this government and its sustainability is in doubt. Let's not forget that these are kids and they are very likely to damage these toys and I wonder if osun government would replace them when they get damaged or lost. Another thing is if they have adjusted the osun syllabus/curriculum to factor in these tablets. How about electricity to charge them!? Remember these are public school students and are most likely rural dwellers who we all know have minimal access to electricity, water and roads. And what about the specs of these tablets!? A few years back, some states gave out laptops to students. How is that programme today!? Are they still giving out these laptops or was it a one time government promo. Let face it. I'm happy for these students. Atleast even if its for just now, they all get to enjoy owning a luxury toy. However, if the schools in osun state are shiit and the quality of education rubbish, then this move is like putting fresh paint on a damaged building. You can't leap before you walk and the cost implication might cripple the state should this be sustained. My 10cents.. #Madam Caro, abeg give me 2 shots of kinkana make I take wash eye first.. [/b][/quote] |
@ Ibidapo 1. You seemingly don't know what the e-tablet is about....how can you build computer halls (whatever that is...) and equip with e-tablet ![]() Ibidapson: A computer halls sud have bn built across dis schools and be equipped wt d so called OPON IMO. This gadget ll be misused as av already xperienced in Ekiti state where porn movies are found on it |
1. Ignorance on your part 2. Osun state government has put about 2yrs into planning this.... bams01: @ all saying this is a good move, kudos, bla bla..... |
1. All the tertiary institutions ![]() you're a liar2. It is worrying the way you're reasoning......for a student in tetiary institution ![]() demainman: Hmmm, Ogbeni is not trying at all, all state tertiary institution in osun r on strike instead of addressing d issue, ogbeni is busy doing somtin else. He has lost his priority as mr gov. We've sitting at home for d past 2wks now. He is now using d so call opon ifa to campaign against 2014. |
mee too[quote author=Abiri.segun]That is my state, am a proud Osun guy. God bless Ogbeni Rauf Aregbesola! God bless Omoluabi state!! God bless South West!!! God bless Nigeria!!!![/quote] |
1. For starters, your question in bold is way off point and of little value. Why are you lots trying to paint Osun as if we have no electricity? You have never set foot on any Osun soil and you're simply regurgitating the rubbish perpertrated on NL 2. Except you show us where the government said e-tablet is a substitute to public libraries, then it's also way off as well Akiika: My guess is that the e-learning stuffs must have been pre-downloaded into the tablet before handing it over to the students. Well, not a bad idea but will the student get generators to charge the tablet when the battery is running low in power? I think equipping public and school libraries with computers may be more effective, but where are the libraries? Anyway, it's a good gesture...at least the Governor is not dashing another rich artiste Prado for wedding like the Akwa Ibom scumbag Gov. did. |
1. I am appalled at the way you guys just reason carelessly 2. Your question on how they are going to charge the tablet with no constant electricity is even dumber. How have we been charging cell phones, yet we have over 100million registerd lines in Nigeria 3. You should have known that, secondary school students are not to "learn how to use e-tablets", but to put e-tablet to good use to enhance their learning. At this point, I'm tempted to doubt if you even know what e-tablet is and what use it serves 4. If quantifying the benefit of this project is rocket science to you, then by all means confess. It is unbelievable at the rate some of you guys just display crass ignorance. This is one of the strategies renowned bodies, UN, UNESCO etc are deloying to balance the learning gaps in 3rd world countries. In places like Kenya, for example this model have been trialed and was successful. It would have been better you do a research rather than this display that serves no value to the collective good. 5. How do you measure the success? well subsequent average performance of the kids in WAEC, NECO for starters, number of students from Osun that gain admission in to Unis, Polys, Technical Schools etc, Number of Osun Students that can self start in business, Innovation indexes of Osun students etc then you can trace it to ability of Osun students to assemble and maintain the e-tablets etc. Has the coming of computers revolutionalize the way we do things in Nigeria?.....then go figure the rest...... courage89: I think this is not only a bad idea, but wastage of public funds. How are these people to charge tablets when there is no constant electricity? What benefit/benefits are they to gain by learning how to use e-tablets, that will be useful to them in real life? How much are they expensing on these elephant projects? How do you quantify the benefits of these projects and how do you measure its success? |
Alaye, You don't use monies from Federal Allocation because 1. That "income" is not constant 2. The allocation from FG in most cases cannot pay debt, as most times, many states after having paid salaries and emoluments, hardly have anything left..... akintun: D method d DMO is using does not actually make sense when u consider dat many states make a lot of income from federal allocation . Comparing debt to total revenue is a more sensible method. |
Abati has lost me for good |
@ Massop..... 1. If from your claim, it tends to suggest that you work for the Local government or for agencies having links with OYES, I think you deserved to be fired. 2. You demonstration of warped reasoning is bad enough, but rubbishing you're supposed employer on the social media is very unprofessional 3. The question you ask in itself is a non issue. First of, if my memory serves me right, I don't recall a primary 6 certificate as a criteria for OYES. Even a that I'm not sure any serious government will want to solve a seeming yawning gap of employment in this country and extend it to Primary 6 cert holders. Is that sane to you? 4. Your question of why shortlist them in the first place is unfounded. It is well within the right of the agency to withdraw any shortlist, once they deem the aberration. A shortlist is not an offer for employment. 5. I dug this from the OYES website "Compilation, processing and data capture for database was from 10th Jan to 25th January and this was done in the State as part of capacity building using resources in the State Government, the Local Governments and Osun State University Osogbo. Shortlist of candidates was from 28th Jan to 3rd February. The criteria were defined with weighted percentages for Gender, Age, Qualification, Local Government of origin etc. Special provisions were also made for minorities from other tribes in Nigeria who are residents of Osun."...If as one of the selection criteria, qualification will be used, then its simply straight forward that a pry 6 cert holder will most likely be in the lowest on the pecking order 6. There is nothing wrong if special concession is granted to OYES candidate is the SPEB exams or any other exams in the state. OYES is an "investment" of the state and priority will naturally be given to them. The government had promised that some of them will be absorbed into some state parastatals. |
Is it some drug you're supposed to be taking or you're currntly taking colombiana: Kudos my foot. Is that wat wud make lagos better last time he opened his trash to say lagos economy is better than ghana and uk. Hw can an economy lagos economy be better wen power is 20percent and road networkin is crap. I doubt if he even knws the characteristics of a good economy, prizes are outrageous and the number of homeless ple is notin to write home about. Inshort a typical lagosian wit a million naira is the lousiest creature on earth. Fashola is just a typical monopolistic creature |
I'm really impressed with your lucid and valid analysis. Twice I have gone through land document processing in Alausa...... on both occassions I had to go through a senior official who is one of the main approvers of the land. Suffice to say my "egunge" was almost half the total cost of processing, but for all the wahala I didn't mind. I relied on him to inform me if both properties are not on government acquisition, marked for industrial areas and stuffs. That's the first thing he does before embarking on any processing. I live on one at the moment, and even thought the ownership estate is under dispute of two families, I was able to get the governor's consent...... A friend we refer to a land in Ikorodu, made the mistake of paying before running a search at Alausa, only to find out the land he just bought is marked for a school project in the records. After trying to sell it for a year and unsuccessful, he just abandoned it and built his house elsewhere...... I think it is important to engage a lawyer to help you run a search or you go run it yourself. My wife run the initial search for any property we aquire, she knows how to ask the right questions...Funily enough I think cost plus "egunje" on searches is less than 5k...... Reality is that we can't afford to wait for some GIS spatial mapping or some records in google at the moments, damage would have been done. The officers in Lands are feeding fat with bribes and deceit and stumbling blocks, so you just have to navigate the system for now. When I was processing building approval, the approving engineer raised an objection on the structural drawing. I wanted to revert back to my structural engineer, but my father-in-law in his wisdom advised we go meet the approving engineer @ Ogudu.....We told him that it is he who can fix the mistake and we dont want to merry-go-round. 70k solved the problem, when the final approval came out, till today, I'm still looking for the fixes the approving engineer did....I have not seen one..... Nutshell is........issues of land is a dangerous murky slippery zone. You can only pray you do right......... Unknown Member: [b]Again, the Nogerian government shows why they are very useless.. |
Well......gbege go sele in my house tomorrow.... I am doing some extention work to make the house bigger, after having paid the amount demanded by the Omonile a year ago when I actually started, they came and said I will pay them still, whether I have paid or not.......... I have called my brother and he's going to send 6 armed Army guys. Blood go flow and our estate go daru tomorrow morning. I'm also going to notify the DPO Anthony division.......Anybody that tries any rubbish tomorrow will have himself to blame. Omoonile koo, omo Oloke ni...... |
Those that do that will simply get shot for nothng........ There are clear channels of pursuing justice in every country and you are not allowed to take laws into your hands...nowhere executinal: This is just the beginning, time will come when Naija will match to Aso rock and claim their right or destine by fire by force. |
You shut up......what uncivilized people have they dealt with to show this nonsense. It seems the Senegalese authorities are slack in their responsiblities, or else these people should be languishing in jail..... Imanuelle: Please shut up! |
1. Please shut up 2. There us no excuse for this despicable and senseless act. It is even apauling that you're yet to rationalize that in your brain 3. Your Ibo brothers have just shown that they are bunch of loose canons that should be behind bars. Do you know what happens to people that descecrate a country's flag, not to talk of needless vandalizing of government properties? OgidiBoy: Very good, I don't condole violence but Nigerian embassy workers are the most lazy incompetent bunch of people. The Embassy workers here in the |
Yes It could be......12 months is enough time to turn the employment status of a state around......... Maxymilliano: Eko Ile, was it the governor that was sworn in 2010 and recruited 20,000 OYES cadets that crashed the unemployment rate in Osun to 3% in 2011 |
Rubbish postulations and conjectures...... atuboweke: QUESTIONS BEGING FOR ANSWERS!!....and someone will think you're supposed to be an adult |
My sentiments exactly......they are living loop-hole for Nyako to rig with finess this time around yomanovic: But why should a fresh election be done when it was confirmed that he actually came third. if he truly came, then it means someone came first and second which should suggests that the person who originall has the highest number of votes should be sworn. that is how it has always been. |
O boy which levels, flaunting expo on the NL.......funnily enuff these were the exact set of questions I did Shang87: There are 12 men and 84 women in a bus, what is the ration of he people in the bus to the number of men. |
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