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Felabarmudia:When you read about this event in the Bible it's clear that Jesus was taken into the wilderness by God's Holy Spirit immediately after his baptism. There he spent 40 days and 40 nights in God's presence where he was receiving instructions on how his earthly assignment will be. After this Satan wanted to seize that opportunity to test Jesus' ability to distinguish between the Spirit of God which was speaking to Jesus earlier and Satan's voice. That's why the conversation took a bit long before Jesus could decipher that the spirit speaking to him later is no longer the same as the first. So after Jesus passed this test Satan gave Jesus a breathing space perhaps to come back some other time. Luke 4:13 For instance consider what happened during the time God's Holy Spirit spoke through one of Jesus' disciples (Peter) as a perfect person Jesus quickly discern that the statement coming out from Peter's mouth can't be from ordinary human {Matthew 16:16-17} but when Satan noticed that Jesus commended Peter's faith he quickly possessed Peter to speak to Jesus but smart Jesus quickly discern that the spirit speaking through Peter now is no longer God's Holy Spirit rather it's Satan! Matthew 16:21-23 So it's the words, thoughts and actions of those around Jesus that he used to perceive the presence of spirits around him. This is what Adam could have done when Eve introduced the forbidden fruit to him but instead of rejecting Adam took it from her. May you have PEACE! |
Deluded Churchgoer, Hell simply means Grave! Ken4Christ: |
minks:Is this about the role of women in Christianity or teaching in the church? ![]() |
Ken4Christ:You always prove to be dogmatic instead of substantiating what you have in mind for others to learn. Most times when people say "now i see" it doesn't literally mean they see something they can point to for others to see in a literal sense rather they make use of explanations as well as illustrations to help their listeners get the sense of what they're saying. So Isaiah said about faithless Jews during the time Christ will walk the planet: Make the heart of this people unreceptive, Make their ears unresponsive, And paste their eyes together, So that they may not see with their eyes And hear with their ears, So that their heart may not understand And they may not turn back and be healed. Isaiah 6:10 For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them.’. Matthew 13:15 So my misinformed churchgoer friend God's word wasn't talking about literal seeing rather it means getting the sense of what Christ will teach just as you're always here arguing blindly yet you can't present a group of people practicing what you want to preach as teachings of the Christ! ![]() |
The title "CHRIST" is a Greek word gotten from the Hebrew word "MESSIAH" which meaning in English is "SAVIOUR" A young first century Jewish carpenter claimed he is the Messiah but he was betrayed by his own people into the hands of their colonial masters which is the Roman empire so Jesus the Jew from Nazareth was executed as a criminal. Now back to your question: "Is Christ real?" To answer this question we need to gather facts from what happened before, during and after the period this man was believed to have lived. According to the Hebrews their scriptures did point to a time when the Messiah will walk this planet so that means they should be expecting someone who will prove to be the Messiah. Based on what we read in a book called "Bible" it was written that the young man Jesus did so many wonderful things to prove that he is truly the Messiah before his betrayal and execution. But are these evidences substantial enough to prove that there truly is/was a Christ? Well we need to consider the last point which is what we have around us today as evidence that the first century Jewish carpenter is truly the expected Messiah. In his last words it was recorded that he said to his first century Jewish disciples: “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things" Matthew 28:18-20 “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction. But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:7-8 From these two comments it's clear that Jesus can only be a real historical figure and Christ if what he said is happening for real in our day. Today is 2023 years after Jesus' birth on this planet meaning it's almost 2,000 years ago that the above quote were spoken by Jesus. So do we truly have a group of people who are practicing what Jesus said today? If we have such a group then it makes no sense doubting Jesus' authenticity as Messiah because that's the only evidence he promised later generations of humans that will serve as undeniable proof that someone truly walked this planet in the name of Jesus who proved to be the Messiah/Saviour/Christ May you have PEACE! ![]() |
Wisdom is the practical application of accumulated information which results in lasting benefits! Luke 7:35 |
We just prove that you don't know what God's word teaches you only have dogmas in your head which you can't adequately prove using the Bible. So you can continue with your ranting! ![]() AllenforGOD:
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When we tell you that you must belong to the global family of the house of faith where each member is subjected to the same line of thought regarding what the scriptures say {John 17:22} you will say it's not necessary now you have to deal with the fact that your book is of no relevance to everyone {2Thessalonians 3:2} because they don't see it as the word of the supreme being which should influence their thoughts! Hebrews 4:12 So continue arguing with them when true disciples of Christ have our own global family of peace loving worshipers under one umbrella! Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Zephaniah 3:9 |
Janosky:When they discover they're wrong but wants to insist on their traditional doctrine of trinity they begin insulting others. |
You ignored all the points made from the word of God because of your struggle for what you think is going to work. Well i only came to tell you the truth, nobody is Pharaoh regarding the current situation, each person will vote who he wants so you can't call the candidate who is the choice of other voters "Pharaoh" simply because you feel he can't perform up to expectation. David and Solomon were humans allowed to rule over God's people based on the trouble they brought upon themselves by demanding a human King but from God's standpoint it's a sin for His people to have made such a demand! 1Samuel 8:4-22 No human King can rule up to God's standard so when God said David is a man after His heart it wasn't that David was qualified to rule but he knows what rulership means that's why David himself could say about the one and only rightful heir to God's Kingdom: "The LORD (YHWH) said unto my Lord (Jesus), Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool" Psalms 110:1 David realized that he was just a temporary king since the perfect King (Christ) is on his way. Matthew 22:42-45 Politics is what Satan is using to make you hate your fellowman including your so called fellow believers to the point of death so if truly you're for Christ watch out that you keep these three rules from Jesus Christ: "However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you" Matthew 5:44 "You must love your neighbor as yourself" Matthew 22:39 "I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves" John 13:34-35 Watch out that your flesh doesn't override your faith in Christ Jesus who is the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:7} because the result of your fleshy outburst {Galatians 5:19-21} will totally contradict the fruit of God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22-23 That's why Jesus told his own disciples saying: "If the world hates you, you know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you". John 15:18-19 Jesus' government is no part of this system of things {John 18:36} because Satan is the ruler of the world {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} that's why all those participating in this world's politics will hate their neighbours including their so called fellow believers instead of loving them! 1John 4:8 benega: |
AllenforGOD:No wahala keep your delusion to yourself! ![]() |
Exmilitant:Jesus is not God but God's Son so if you want to worship Jesus that's your cup of coffee not mine. Jesus himself told his disciples and me too: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’” John 20:17 So Jesus can't be my God since he said his father is my father and his God is my God! ![]()
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Exmilitant:You can follow any doctrine you like but Jesus never claimed he is God rather he emphasized that he is the Son of the Israelite God. I expected you to ask further questions but thinking you can change my understanding of what i stated above is impossible! ![]() |
AllenforGOD:Did Jesus called himself God or God's Son? ![]() |
Ken4Christ:When someone thinks deeply and say: "Now, i see" Does it mean literal seeing? ![]() |
johnw47:Just as Jesus was like God too that's why both Moses and Jesus PRAYED to the true God who made them Gods in the midst of humans! |
benega:When talking about POLITICS most people don't know that the true God has no interest in whatever the inhabitants of the earth are doing to themselves. According to God's word there is no reason for humans to choose for themselves a ruler but that's what most nations do in ancient time. So when the Israelites come up with the same idea Samuel the High Priest was shocked that God's own people wants to do what other nations are doing: choosing a ruler over themselves! 1Samuel 8:4-7 God told Samuel what human rulers of nations used to do to their subjects perhaps to make the Israelites repent of their sin against their God who is their rightful ruler but the people insisted they want human rulers so the true God allowed them! 1Samuel 8:11-22 So what you're witnessing today shows how the true God love Nigerians because our people are the most religious on this planet but they failed to grasp that countries practicing politics aren't worshiping the God they're supplicating rather those nations and their rulers are worshiping demons and they know very well what they're worshiping. Nigerians now know that DEMOCRACY is not the government of the people by the people and for the people as described rather it's the government of the less privileged by the rich and the rich knows how to manipulate their people into doing what they want. It's just a pity that it took Nigerians 24 years after military rule to know the true colour of politics as their rulers has been using racism, false religions and money to manipulate them. Today false religion has failed, racism has failed so they now use the last means MONEY to perform the miracle! Don't see anyone as a pharaoh because he is not the only one in this there are hundreds of thousands of people backing him for one reason or another and they are also Nigerians like you too. So who is the Pharaoh here? Just know that your choice of ruler differs from that of your neighbour for one reason or another and you can't impose your choice on the true God who has no interest in politics. Back in Israel after the people have gotten used to human rule God told them what will later happen to human rule which has His backing through Nebuchadnezzar's dream. Humans will rule over themselves for thousands of years and many will suffer under human rule until God install a government that will rule over the whole earth forever, this government will not be like your democracy where you will vote for your choice and later change them after a period of time rather God will chose His own ruler who will destroy all this system and establish what will never end! Daniel 2:44 ![]() |
johnw47:Pharaoh was the highest authority on earth at that time so when the true God said "i make you as God to Pharaoh" it simply means Moses has become the highest authority among humans of that time whose authority surpasses that of Pharaoh of Egypt. Therefore if Moses should call down fire from heaven upon anyone it will happen instantly because Moses has become like God. The same power was bestowed on Jesus of Nazareth when he walked the earth, the difference between the two of them is that Moses only knew the one who bestowed that power on him within just eighty years of his human existence while Jesus has known the true God from the beginning of creation so regarding the power to be called GOD in the midst of humans Jesus knew much more than Moses that's why he used that power in an extra ordinary way than Moses who only knew what God said about Himself at the turning bush! |
Exmilitant:It's not "God the father" but God, His Son and the Holy Spirit! The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob proved to be the one and only true God thousands of years ago. Jesus of Nazareth proved to be the Son of the Israelites God that's why he refer to this God as his father and the active force or power this God used in accomplishing His purposes is called Holy Spirit. That's what Jesus wanted his disciples to inculcate in the minds of anyone who feels like listening to them, if you agree with Jesus' disciples you will be compelled to dedicate your life to the service of this God before a multitude of witnesses who are from different nations and as your whole body is amassed into a body of water in their presence from that day onward they see you no more as just a neighbour but as their relation with whom they can share all things like one family. Christians must never raise weapons in support of any leader against anyone because the founder of their group commanded them to: love their enemies even though the enemies hate them. Matthew 5:43-48 love their neighbours as they would want to be loved. Mark 12:31 love their fellow believers just as Jesus love them. John 13:34-35 So no racist or politician can influence them to lift up weapons against anyone! Isaiah 2:2-4 That is what baptism in the name of the father, Son and Holy Spirit means! |
tctrills:I only used the medium to call my brother in faith away from your showdown with your neighbour. So continue your fun! ![]()
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AnyanwuSilas:You missed my point! What i meant is that this OP makes no sense with this thread typing all these about what the nation of Israel practiced thousands of years ago which has now been trashed today by the Israelites themselves. The temple used as a meeting place for the Israelites to worship their God is equal to the shrines used by any other nation as a meeting place to worship their Gods as well. So coming here to talk about what Israelites in ancient times practice in their place of worship using that to abuse or insult your neighbour today shows lack of knowledge. For your information i'm not a Muslim today but a Christian and it's not what Israelites of ancient times practice in their temple that's of importance to me rather it's what the most wonderful counselor of all time taught that really matters to me now. No matter the tribe he comes from what he taught is the only lasting solution to mankind's problems. As for Igbos i never thought any of your people could be intelligent until i watch and carefully listened to a video of one man called Peter Gregory Obi. So you're totally wrong in your judgement of my post! |
Trollronaldo:You talking about intelligence earlier but from your later comments i discover you know little about INTELLIGENCE. First of all an intelligent person doesn't have to force you into doing what you detest but when those who seems good, nice, kind and honest hearted to you began doing what you think is detestable your guard against the abominable will be weakened! You said you're agnostic so it will be really hard for you to grasp how an unseen intelligent spirit being is subtly compelling the inhabitants of this planet to embrace what they formally detests with passion. When God created this planet creatures having to do with sexuality are mainly males and females, but after Satan has convinced his spirit brothers (angels) into coming down to mate with female humans something strange happened to the human race: before then sex only takes place between two married persons but after those highly intelligent beings put on human flesh their goodlooking, intelligence and wealth made all the females on earth to fall for them so that instead of first taking this handsome guys home to their parents who will in turn ask for the families or background of these beautiful young guys the ladies started sleeping with them to keep the fine guys to themselves. That was how sex before marriage (fornication) became something normal to many humans. Today Satan is using countries who seems to be highly sensitive towards the rule of human laws to promote LGBTQ in other countries who are either developing or underdeveloped. So when atheists, agnostics and misinformed religionists who wants to mingle noticed that it has been embraced in advanced countries they'll welcome it as if it's OK. No matter what you type here as long as your fellow agnostics, atheists or religionists began taking it as harmless to the society you'll be left with no other option than to compromise. That's why you need to have faith in other to distinguish between right and wrong, and between the society promoting what is right from the society welcoming decadence! ![]() |
Foolish misinformed Churchgoer! Even Jesus Christ as human in the flesh couldn't see Satan he can only sense Satan's presence through words, thoughts and actions of people around him. Matthew 16:21-23; John 8:44 So who brainwashed you into thinking you can see what Jesus can't see in your sinful flesh? ![]() Ken4Christ: |
I know you're insane, jobless and hopeless so you're just looking for a sane individual to chat with exchanging words so i'll leave you in your madness. We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES you and all your forefathers in Atheism can't stop us from being members of any organization that's our choice! ![]()
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Igbo man here in Nigeria (2023 after Jesus} worrying himself over the laws ancient Israelites of (1513 before Jesus) instead of addressing the current issue affecting his life now in his country! ![]()
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Courz:Since you don't believe in Jesus ọmọ no show for you o! ![]()
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Courz:Since you're not interested in Jesus there's no show for you! ![]() |
Chai! Janosky wan enter one chance between two trinitarians who are SCATTERED spiritually speaking {Luke 11:23} when both of them won't agree to learn from you. Abeg let them settle their scores after all they both claimed they can understand their Bible without the help of Christ's anointed brothers. We recognized them but these people don't so let them continue arguing among themselves perhaps they will agree one day so as to carry out the assignment Jesus gave his group which is going to preach, teach, making disciples and baptizing them under one umbrella as Christians. There's one thing to be intelligent but that doesn't make people wise because the intelligent person may find his way dodging the truth with excuses and giving himself credits but when it comes to delivering the assignment given to the wise that is the time for the intelligent to know that he can't be as productive as the wise since his dodging and excuses will make him a fugitive who is always alone! James 2:18-26 ![]() Janosky: |
Janosky:Thanks to Nairaland, if not for this forum how can i know that some people do live their lives as dead despite having lots of things to do with their lives they just chose to remain sadists for the rest of their lives after leaving a group or organization. If they're sure of what they're saying let them present a better performing group which they have joined after leaving God's organization. Calling people names simply because there are members of their group with questionable characters shows how myopic they are because Judas Iscariot was one of Jesus' disciples and Jesus even chose this man as one of the apostles despite his questionable way of life. So if Jesus continued to care for Judas Iscariot until the man end his own life with greed what then do critics expect Jesus' group to do when we realize there are those with such character who remain obedient to the faith? All we can do is reprove them so that they have no privileges in the congregation of God but to send them away when they're still willing to continue washing their robes in the blood of the lamb is not within our ability for only Jehovah can judge who should be allowed in His Kingdom. So as long as any sinner is willing to make amendment we mustn't send them away because we have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory it's His undeserved kindness that we are all enjoying being part of His worshipers none of us is perfect. ![]() |
Janosky:The veil used to blindfold him is TRINITY so even if he reads any verse in his copy of the Bible TRINITY won't allow him see clearly. You even tried quoting the verse i sited for him so if Jesus said "i and the father are one" {John 10:30} and he concluded that Jesus is the same as God then he should agree that when Jesus said "I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one" {John 17:22-23} it also means i and the father and Jesus are one because Jesus has given me the same glory his father gave him to be in union with him and his father so that we are now ONE! |
AllenforGOD:Quote God's word! Jesus never claimed he is God but God's Son! ![]() |
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