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PeaceJoyLove:

Na star a dey see? Shooo!
Max suddenly is pretending to be gentle? You wey be dey run everywhere, attacking everyone in NL. Are you really ok? You that insult everyone despite you are a kid. You that we offered job opportunity and turned it down and insulted us. You that slap anyone in NL...that I had to step in and slap you back to save some gentle folks.
See, you think you have monopoly of madness...see...you no get am. I am happy you know I can handle you well.
Respect your elders. Stop talking to people anyhow. I had to learn how to use meme like you na.
Shut the crap up boy.
But we listened to you and observed you well before we concluded that you sre mannerless....and we can say that you are not a good example also. I know I am not perfect, and I dont hide it. But you are saint to yourself..... you want to teach me. Right? If I give you back hand.
Which fruits have you produced exactly in NL? Are you okay? You better go read all your posts and take note of the fruits you have produced. See, I know many of my posts are harsh..and I dont pretend. But you are a demon pretending to be a saint. And this is the reason I dont take you or your JW serious...you are all nasty and very annoying. The most annoying is that you are all kids. You talk to your elders like kids. See...I have told you..if you meet me face to face, you will prostrate. I'm not kidding. You behave like a mannerless boy. Is this what Jesus teach you?
And I have described your FRUIT above. How is your fruit a proof of the useless thing you posted here? You need to check your head. So, your Bible tells you to run around NL like NL wounded lion defending yourself?
A child who is mannerless will be rebuked. You are mannerless. If you want to continue showing how mannerless you are, feel free to insult me back. Na today? That's what your Bible teaches you na. It teaches you to insult people who can be parents to you. So, start...go on...let your madness start... go into your picture folder and start using your memes. Na today?

Jesus said:

By their FRUITS we will distinguish between the true believers and unbelievers! Matthew 7:16-18
So if you believe (trust) his words there's no need insulting anyone who claims his religion is the ultimate after all that's exactly what Jesus himself said! John 14:6
For your information you're chatting with a grandpa not a youth so if you have anything worthwhile to say go ahead and let's hear you but if you're looking for someone to exchange words i'm sorry to disappoint you!

Ken4Christ:
You see how wicked you are. Simply because Mary complained that they have taken away his body, you now use it to support your demonic doctrine.

Mary saw that the grave was empty. So, she taught someone has taken away the body of Jesus. You now take the thinking of Mary as a doctrine against the evidence of the scripture.

Do you think that God is a fraudster who will do such a thing and conceal it.

The body was only transformed from a perishable body to a glorious body. The scripture says that God did not allow his body to decay.

Acts 2:31 David by foreseeing this spoke about the resurrection of the Christ, that he was neither abandoned to Hades, NOR DID HIS BODY EXPERIENCE DECAY. (New English Translation)

So why would God preserve Jesus body only to be taken away by angels?

Tell us, where did they take the body to? Where are clear evidences from the scriptures that his body was taken away?

You deny the truth of God's word and use your lies to turn the hearts of people away from the truth.

Why are you people so wicked? Do you know the damage you are doing?

Why do you think it's difficult for God to transform the body of Jesus?

Even the scripture says our bodies also will be transformed;

Phillipians 3:21 Who shall CHANGE OUR VILE BODY, that it may be fashioned LIKE UNTO HIS GLORIOUS BODY, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

The New English Translation puts it this way;

Who will TRANSFORM THESE HUMBLE BODIES OF OURS into the likeness of his glorious body by means of that power by which he is able to subject all things to himself.

Our Lord Jesus even told Thomas Dydimus that he is not a spirit like you claim.

Luke 24:36-39
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for A SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONES, as ye see me have.

So, our Lord Jesus said he has flesh and bones. Notice he did not say flesh and blood. Flesh and blood is a natural body. Flesh and bones is a glorious body not sustained by blood. This is the transformation. He did not materialized. He has flesh and bones.

To confirm that it was the same body though transformed, he asked Thomas to put his fingers on the holes pierced by the nails and on his side pierced by the sword;

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Mikee19 Come and see what I am talking about.

Mary saw angels there, right?

Well those were undertakers that took away Jesus' physical body, otherwise there's nothing they're doing there if Jesus just resurrected!

MindHacker9009:
You are WITNESSES for the New Testament God which is a new religion copied from the Old Testament which uses deceit to make it look like a fulfillment of the Old Testament and Satan is using it as a tool to deceive many.

GOD of the Old Testament has commanded in HIS Law:
Not to add to the Torah commandments or their oral explanations.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)
Not to diminish any commandments from the Torah, in whole or in part.
(Deuteronomy 13:1)

So you need to realise that you are not WITNESSES of the GOD of the Old Testament but that of the New Testament who is not the same as that of the Old Testament.

May you stop your deceits

Please how many people am i chatting here?
Or is it just the same person using multiple accounts?
Why is it that when i respond to Mr A it's Mr B's turn to jump in and start arguing all over again?

oteneaaron:
But you said you "remember"
Why don't you show us where it was stated?
Or were you just caught lying?

Wow!
Are you also interested in Islam or you're just following me everywhere i go?
Well it's written in the Qu'ran that Allah scold the world rulers who are judging partially and questioned their sanity.
So leave that for Muslims after all you don't believe in Islam, do you?

AntiChristian:
Abeg which verse is that where Allah specifically addressed Politicians?
(When it's not that you smoke weed to have believed such)

Keep crying for all i care, your chief Imam in Abuja was sacked for preaching against politicians, if your god has nothing to say against politicians what makes your Imam do such?

Mikee19:
Not me and you today
But certainly another day
Cheers!

No wahala JWs are ever ready to teach you!

AntiChristian:
His wish is to be just and to reward everyone according to his works....And all this has been written down since He is all-Knowing!

That's where we're having serious issues.

Because i remember a verse in the Quran where Allah himself said to politicians:

"Are you out of your minds?"

If truly Allah knows all things why such a statement, after all he knew what politicians will do before they start doing it yet he didn't stop them only for him to start questioning their sanity!

oteneaaron:
But that doesn't answer the question you were asked.
You said in front of Pilate, Jesus was IRELEVANT.
But how can a person who is IRELEVANT be celebrated all around the city when riding on a donkey?
Or are you saying Pilate et al didn't hear of that event of him riding into the city?
Why was he even killed in the first place?
Was it not because of his growing popularity?
That is why you should stop taking these stories as literal history.
They are just too many plot holes and contradictions.
You must learn to see EVERYTHING in the Bible as an allegory and not actual history.

I don't like chatting with you because you're not open-minded but due to other readers following this thread i will TEACH you here!

First of all Pilate the Roman Governor has no business with a Jew who is not interested in demoting him. I remembered when Obafemi Awolowo was alive he didn't know King Sunny Ade. WHY? Because this man is not one of those relevant to Awo's carrier!
But ask of politicians who have impact on the people either to push or hinder Awo's political carrier, he knew everything about them!

The same happens to Pilate and Jesus.

As for him not popular by face, don't forget that his disciples have been preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood healing and curing all manner of sicknesses IN JESUS' NAME!

So it's his NAME and TEACHINGS that matters not his face since there was no newspaper or television back then to display his pictures!

Chichigi1990:
No, you know nothing about christianity because the book of Acts of the apostles was not writen by Luke. It was writen in the 3rd-person and there is no way it was handwriten by Luke. Get your facts straight, this is a public forum.
Paul and Barnabas didnt get along because of pauls attempted insubordination. In all of Pauls letter, he couldnt get along with anyone.
Better to have Enoch and Barnabases writings in the Bible than Paul's.
Paul never met Jesus in person. He made up the story about his vision on his way to damascus.
The same paul says circumsion is unnecessary, advises his followers to eat unclean animals like pig, pork.. contrary to what Jesus taught.
How can Muhammed quote from the bible when the bible is not the word of God and there was no king james version during Muhammed reign. Show me one quote that Muhammed "stole" from Jesus!

Chai, see stupidity at it's peak o!

OK how come Muhammad told his followers that Jesus promised that the one coming after him is Muhammad? John 14:16, 26; 15:26; 16:7

So are you saying we should dismiss the idea that Muhammad is the one Jesus referred to as the COMFORTER that's to come after him?

MindHacker9009:
The New Testamant is a new religion copied from the Old Testament which uses deceit to make it look like a fufillment of the Old Testament and Satan is using it as tool to deceive many

No wahala, do you believe in God? Is your God alive? Can he gather his own worshipers and say "this are my WITNESSES"? Isaiah 43:10-12

So i'm not asking for many just present a group that's worshiping your God so that we can observe the power of your God as they're well organized by the spirit of your God!

AntiChristian:
First and foremost, do not interpret Islam again as it sickens me and i won't want to accuse an elderly man of telling lies.
Allah will punish the sinners in Hell. Whoever does an atom weight of evil will see it. And whoever does an atom weight of good will see it.

So don't say Allah does anything he wishes because he's bound by righteousness to give everlasting life to those who lived righteous lives.

That's my point!

Mikee19:
But who exactly is that war against? Other humans, or the spirit forces of darkness! We need to know this war isn't against other humans! No scripture teaches this at all!
Yes, God HIMSELF will do his own job where humans are involved, converting them by his Spirit, or judging them at the end. This latter part is the job of ONLY GOD.
Makes no sense to fight humans. Let God himself do his own job by himself!

Ọmọ i told you from day one that if you engage a fully competent and completely equipped JW you go bow for knowledge but it's obvious you're looking for someone who is not vast in knowledge.

Paul has answered you in his letter to our Christian brothers in first century Ephesus.

It's a WAR between God and Satan.
But if you don't observe what is happening between humans from the two rival camps you won't know this.
That's why JEHOVAH promised us (Jehovah's Witnesses) that:
No weapon (demonic teachings) fashioned against (our faith) can have a success, and any tongue that rises against us (like you and your cohorts are trying to do now against JW organization) we will SILENCED. That is the HERITAGE we got from our ancestors in the house of faith, and as for our RIGHTEOUSNESS don't even go there as no religion can stand us because our righteousness is from our God JEHOVAH! Isaiah 54:17

AntiChristian:
Allah loves the doer of good!

Allah loves the righteous!

Allah loves the repentant sinners!

Allah love the pious!

All these and more are spread over the Qur'an.
Didn't you read them while you were Muslim?

Try to be composed, responding twice to just a post shows you're desperate.

Good!
So are you saying Allah is bound to give these people everlasting life in Paradise based on his love for their faithfulness or Allah can just choose to ignore their righteousness and still send them to hell?

MindHacker9009:
Your deceits are proof that the New Testament is a Testament of deceit.
May you stop your deceits

Prove you have the truth of God by presenting those practicing what your God wants or is your God DEAD? Psalms 115:4-8

I presented a group of worshipers who are working zealously for their God throughout the earth yet you want to argue based on what is not working anywhere! James 2:18-26

Mikee19:
Abeg let nobody fight for God jare! A faith that we didn't even invent, that Jesus himself came to bring! When we are not God or Jesus Christ fa!
Teach, preach, pray, and allow the owner of the faith do his own work by himself!

It's called "SPIRITUAL WAR" it's between the forces of light and that of darkness {Ephesians 6:12-18} but today God's Kingdom could be seen approaching as we observe Jehovah's Witnesses gradually turning the earth to Paradise as they're preparing for the coming of their King who promised to exterminate all unbelievers! Luke 19:27

So if you don't believe you're on your own!

Ken4Christ:
Tell Nairaland what happened to the body of Jesus since you said he was not raised with his body. We are waiting for your lies.

Jesus' physical body is the ultimate sacrifice taken away by angels {John 20:11-12} according to God's law you can't take back what you sacrificed to God so it's his spirit life that Jesus has the right to take back not the physical body he has sacrificed for mankind's sin. Matthew 20:28
That's why he began materializing in different bodies so that his friends who knew him very well can't recognize him again by appearance but through his actions! John 20:14-16 compare to Luke 24:15-35
So if you don't believe that no problem we know Jesus never resurrected with his physical body! 1Corinthians 15:44-45

cornelboy:
That's is a good one.
It's about practising what Christ practised hmm.

The problem most misinformed Churchgoers have now is that false religions claiming denominations of Christianity are fast loosing their grip on their members.
Some 30 years ago if you ask anyone about his religion they will proudly mention the name of their church like:
Catholic Church
Anglican Church
Methodist Church
African Church
The Apostolic Church
The Apostolic Faith
Christ Apostolic Church
Cherubim and Seraphim Church
Then new generation churches began springing up like:
RCCG
Deeperlifer
Celestial Church of Christ
All these religions were teaching their members that heaven is where their rewards will be until Fela Anikulapo Kuti released a song:
Suffer Suffer for world ~ Amen
Enjoy for heaven ~ Amen.

This song affected all these churches so they began changing their thinking and preaching prosperity except Kumuyi who never realized that there is a wind of change.
Today he's now changing to fit in to the new ways other churches are following. That's why many of his members are protesting against him today.

But only Jehovah's Witnesses have maintained that all Christians must be zealous preachers and industrious teachers of God's word in their neighbourhood.
That's why they're all ashamed to mention the name of their church today seeing that only Jehovah's Witnesses are consistent with what Jesus Christ commissioned! Matthew 28:19-20; Act 1:8

Chichigi1990:
Everything written by Paul is Apostacy.
He was a self centered bigot.
In Pauls letters it is clear that he couldn't get along with anyone... except women and he chose celibacy.
It reminds you of homosexuals that get along well with women but not attracted to them. Celibacy is unGodly!
His claim to be a Pharasee was a lie (same as his vision on the way to damascus) the term pharasea mean an orthodox jew, the teacher of the Law(mathew 23: 2-3)
Paul claiming to be a pharisee meant he held all the teachings of the Prophets and sits in Moses seat( how can a former bounty hunter for the romans be a pharisee?, no other apostle gave testament to pauls phariseeship except Paul himself)
Paul mocks real Christian who walked with Jesus, he attack Barnabas and it was Barnabas that introduced Paul to the Jerusalem Church, Paul had beef with John and Mark he wont travel with them, he accuses Peter(upon whom Jesus said he will build his church) of being a hypocrite(Lol see Galatians 2:11), he refered to the other diciples as being "the so called pillar of the chrch" and mocks them(lol 2Cor 11) these Diciples were handpicked by Jesus himself!

From the above write-up it's clear you know nothing about Christianity because the account of Act of the Apostles was written by Luke and he narrated in details how Saul (Paul) was persecuting the Christians! Act 7:58 compare to Act 9:1-2

As stated earlier, Pauls companions were women, why did he travel with women alot? And dude claimed celibacy. Thats some bs lifestyle. He seem to have gotten along with women more because it was highly unlikely that women would challenge him and they were high on agreeableness and submissiveness.
The real Question should be: Considering the Bible is not the word of God, how the hell the Paul become an Apostle when he never met Jesus? How come Pauls writtings slipped in the Christian Bible but the book pf Barnabas, Enoch didnt make it in?
Thats why false christians are the lost sheep. You cant talk in my presence because i regard you all as hypocrites and Liars. You upturn the truth. You lack morals. Feminism rains amongs u, your men are weak like paul the apostate( and the effeminate).

Paul worked with Barnabas, Timothy, Silas and they're all males Sir!
Barnabas or Enoch never wrote any letter to the congregation, moreover Jesus specifically chose Paul to be the Apostle for the nations according to the account of Luke! Act 9:15

Those of you who quote Paul are worshippers( as you christians say) and followers if a false christ imho.

According to Jesus of Nazareth there's no connection between him and any individual who is not a Jew except through the teachings of Paul whom Jesus chose to connect us to himself! Act 9:15

YOU will be deserving of banishment if you cant prove or atleast show ONE prophecy of Guru Mahara of Ibadan that came to pass over a period of atleast 100 years. I dont care if he is dead or alive.

If you're a Muslim but never listened to Guru Maharaji of course you can't know the similarities between him and Muhammad.
For your information both of them were quoting what has been written in the Bible so both of them only prophesy based on what they heard that Jesus said.
I have listened to Guru several times and he was mimicking what has been written in the Bible just as your Muhammad did!

AntiChristian:
What's the standard He wants to overstep?
He knows all things. So He knows where He'll step even before creating the step.

To the highlighted questions the answer is LOVE!
Is your God a God of love?

So what has those he predestined for HellFire done to deserve been there?
Remember they never existed before he created them, therefore he should explain on what basis he decided to make them subjects of HellFire!

IMAliyu:
You continue to mislabel me after multiple corrections.
Atheist/Atheism has a very specific definition, unless you are using your own made-up definition of the word, neither in my reply nor my views do I fall under the definition. Your insistence suggests bad faith. I don't know what you stand to gain by it.

So, you're saying that belief is trust and this trust is evidenced through action?

Perhaps i TEACH you how to ascertain facts instead of allowing people's claims to mislead you.
There is just TWO roads it's either you believe (trust) in God or you don't which automatically makes you an atheist. Matthew 7:13-14
For your information there are billions of atheists globally claiming they are believers but it's by their actions that we know where they truly belong! Matthew 7:16-18

I wouldn't trust him on it, but I wouldn't dismiss him either, since we were friends, I'd entertain multiple possibilities, and give him chance to prove himself. As it's an outlandish claim.
And if I witnessed the fit myself, then it wouldn't be a matter of trust or belief, at that point it'd just be a fact, at least this will set a precedent to be more trusting of the friend in the future. Considering I don't see the father, nor know how he does it, I'd just be indifferent/agnostic to it if it's outside of what I'm capable of finding out, as it'd be of no consequence to me.

How should this relate to religious belief in God?

God gave mankind the Bible, this book was aimed at helping mankind to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally. Isaiah 2:2-4
So if there's no group of worshipers anywhere that can fulfill this task then the Bible is as useless as shit. But today what God promised has sufficed, one group has gathered people in millions throughout the world, used the Bible to resolve all their racial disparities, erased politics and racism from their hearts and replaced it with love for their neighbours, they have also resolved to divert all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they have vowed never to make or raise weapons against their fellowman again and as for military services they've said "GOODBYE" Micah 4:1-3
So the child has proved beyond any reasonable doubt that his father is trustworthy it's left to you now if you will further trust (believe) what his father promised about the future of mankind! Revelations 21:3-5

I make no claims to a God's existence or inexistence,

That is what ATHEISM truly means, it's not until you start arguing against the existence of God that makes you an atheist, your inability to trust anyone around you is enough! 1John 4:20

Why not ask the specific individuals you're referring to?

You quoted me based on my response to him which means you're together!

PeaceJoyLove:
Stop it guy. Prove it that your own word are Jesus' word.
I have seen you made sensible cases about Trinity but who knows the real truth? The fact is that we know the Bible has been tampered with. King James did his own also. And then your leaders sat down also and came up with what they thought, felt, or received...whatever...and gave yours too. I dont have problem with it that this is where your faith lies.
But my point is that can you really prove that your own Bible contains 100% Jesus' words? If you arent sure and cannot prove it, then, why dont you just relax. Your faith is your faith...no one is going to take it away from you. But allow others to put forward their faith too.
For me, I prefer to go with something older than yours. Yours was well established in 1914...but there are others that had been established before yours. Your leaders said they dont believe in the previous ones...fine and good. Since you have decided to stay with their version, let it be your faith..that's it. And your faith is different from others.
What do I expect from you
Share your faith freely, and if it doesnt makes sense to a new friend or a stranger, just be friendly and walk away if the person does not accept it.Why stay online to prove the religion you arent there when vital decisions were made? Were you there? They reported what you should know. What if some vital resources were hiding from you...and what if they are still hiding such from you.

If you want to learn it's not by insulting or abusing people up and down.
Jesus of Nazareth never fought anyone over his beliefs all he will do is present his thoughts and if you don't agree with him he will walk away. So it's you who is agitating as if i must acknowledge you as a worshiper of my God when you're not in tune with me.

Jesus clearly says it's by observing the outcome of a religion that will help us to know if they're connect to him or not. Matthew 7:16-18

A FRUIT is what a tree produces, Jesus never gathered perfect disciples, they all had flaws yet there's one thing that separate them from all other Jews: They were able to PREACH and TEACH with zeal as if their life depends on it just as Jesus did! Act 1:8

You asked me how i can prove that the New World Translation (NWT) is the version having God's approval and i presented the evidence as found in the Act of Apostles that it's the version that compels imperfect humans to go about preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood just as Jesus commissioned Christianity is the version producing that FRUIT! James 2:18-26

And you started insulting me as if i stung you.
If you're not convinced why not just walk away as you adviced? Why must you insult me just because i chose to answer you?

Ken4Christ:
United to draw souls to the very hell you deny. I no go pity you. You go cry for millions of years since you don't want to repent. You know you are teaching lies and you are ready to defend your lies in spite of clear evidences against them.

You're just a brainwashed fool and instead of reasoning with the truth your pigheadedness is blurring your eternity.

There's nothing like "CHRISTIAN" until the inhabitants of Antioch noticed a group of people practicing what Jesus of Nazareth taught and practiced in his lifetime that they began calling them "CHRISTIANS" Act 11:26

So it's a GROUP NAME which was derived from the title "CHRIST" therefore if you can't present any GROUP practicing what the man called CHRIST practiced back then it simply means you're just a deluded fool!

MrBrownJay1:
how dare you look down on "the law" and try to disregard its message?!!?!?! isnt it your own jesus that clearly stated that:
Luke 16:17
It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.

Matthew 5:18-19
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Jesus was talking to his Jewish people telling them that everything written about him by those prophets in the laws which they're very well familiar with will be fulfilled he wasn't talking to an African whose ancestors never entered into a covenant with the God of Abraham through the law.
So the Jews needed those laws to help them recognize and cooperate with the Christ otherwise the promises God made with their father Abraham {Genesis 12:1-3} will be transferred to people of other nations if those ones should put faith in the Christ before them! Matthew 3:7-12 compare to 21:43; 23:37-38
This people have the privilege of becoming co-rulers with the Christ as they pioneer his messages throughout the earth for the salvation of mankind {Zechariah 8:23} had it been they acted on the things written in those laws they wouldn't have rejected Jesus Christ.
So it's half-baked knowledge that's worrying you, CHRISTIANS have no need of those laws after knowing the perfect model God gave mankind all we need to do is strive to imitate his thoughts, words and actions! 1Corinthians 2:16
God promised us everlasting life that he never promised any of those prophets of old {Matthew 17:5} because the laws can't give them everlasting life it's only through Jesus' teachings that we can make this planet a PARADISE not through the law!

so you either stand by Jesus words or you dont, but dont be a selfish hypocrite to take only what fits your agenda from your holybook!
do you want me to post here more of the things that your holybook is clearly against, yet you hypocrites gladly partake in!?!??! dont get me started...

From the above write-up you can see that you are not as knowledgeable as you think.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob actually entered into a covenant with the nation of Israel and the laws is what binds Him to them, as long as they keep those laws He will continue to protect them until the Messiah (Christ) who will teach them how to gain everlasting life comes. Read John 4:25

So if you're quoting what happened in the Old Testament and claiming you're knowledgeable about Christianity then it shows how low your knowledge about what you're claiming.
CHRISTIANITY is like a perfect and fresh start to make the world a better place but Mosaic laws is what helped Jesus' disciples to recognize him as the one who will teach them what they supposed to know about eternal life!

HellVictorinho4:
What will your children gain through this?
Are they better than Boko Haram?

Get yourself a job and stop begging!

Workch:
Why am I even replying you sef?

You don't deserve any response from me. You are dull

Yeah! And you are smart but can't relate peacefully with your neighbours while i have strangers who never knew me before but are ready to welcome me into their homes anyday we meet all because i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Surely you're smarter than me!

Workch:
for example, benefit of knowledge outside the Bible makes your mobile phone and internet work. I'm sure you are benefitting from that knowledge, at least to argue about your delusions. If you disagree, you may have to show me the part of the Bible that talks about how to make internet and mobile phones work.

This is really hilarious!
So it's the making of mobile devices that you call knowledge outside the Bible shey?
Perhaps you need to check the Bible too for fried rice and chicken, pounded yam and vegetable soup or the soap used in bathing in ancient times!

Ọmọ your IQ low o!

Well let's say you need enlightenment, so i'll teach you. Mobile devices are part of modern technology, it's called "advancement in the system of communication"
Before now people have been communicating one way or another and as time goes on we keep finding ways to improve on it that's what gave birth to TELECOMMUNICATION.

There are many things people use back then that mankind keep improving on it, cooking, traveling, documenting, clothing, housing, marketing, advertisement, entertainment and so on. All these are things God provided ready made tools that each time mankind finds it we make use of them.
God created bird with legs that can't be affected by electric wires long before mankind discovered electricity. So He already know we will discover so many things as we continue to live on this planet on our own.
What matters to Him is how we can cohabit peacefully! Isaiah 2:2-4

PeaceJoyLove:
Irrelevances. How is it relevant to proving that your Bible is the most accurate? Where is the real substance? How does it prove that there is existence of heaven?
How is Jesus the tree and carpenter holding hammer and nails the answer to the question? Are you okay?
Any group that belongs to Jesus Jesus bla bla...so which group belongs to Jesus? Only Jehovah Witness? And what is the proof? And how is it related to telling us there is heaven or that your bible is real? Are you really ok?
Here is Mat. 28.19-20
[19] Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [20] teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age. "
How is this verse relevant to propf that your Bible version is the real one? Are you sure you are ok? You always quote irrelevances. I have told you to stop quoting when responding me cos you always quote rubbish. Do you think I dont check the verses? What is the sense here? Are you sure you are okay?
Here is Mal 3.16
16 Then those who feared the Lord talked with each other, and the Lord listened and heard.(A) A scroll(B) of remembrance was written in his presence concerning those who feared(C) the Lord and honored his name.
So what has this got to do with proving your version is the most accurate? I dont get it.
To the highlighted part. So, when you realise that not everyone is perfect, why do you make it sound like you are the only one perfect?
You cannot beat your chest to it that your Bible is the most accurate cos you know no one can; yet, you move like a wounded lion telling everyone you are the most accurate group. Are you sure you are ok?
I dont have problem with your faith and I dont think you should feel like you are the most righteous. Why? Because it is your faith. You are free. But why would you start telling others that their faith is not perfect? How do you know their faith is not? Can you prove that your faith is perfect? You that cannot prove your Bible is the most accurate version...how can you prove it? Yes, you cannot. So, why this rubbish you do everytime?
The fruits you exhibit ...right? That you argue with everyone daily. Even Jesus at a time talked way quietly. Have you ever thought of emulating Jesus by walking away without responding to everyone? So, which fruit exactly are you talking about? I am far from being perfect too, but I dont claim to be the only one perfect.
Have you ever read that Jesus is not been able to explain e everything? I am sure Jesus can show proofs. But you cannot show proofs; yet, you want everyone to take your teaching as the perfect one. The teachings they cooked up in 1914. I dont have problem with it as your own faith. Bug why should someone else take the things cooked up together in your 1914 meeting as the foundation of his faith? You decided to take the risk of trusting it. But I choose not to. Does that make you more righteous? 1914 convention oooo. You must be very bold to have believed that overrides what the Bibale says.
I dont have problem with it that you have faith in it...but why will you keep enforcing it on everyone?

Well if you don't believe in Jesus' word there's nothing more to say.
Thanks for your time!

MindHacker9009:
Jesus was very popular and well known among His people. When He rode on a donkey into Jerusalem:
Mark: And they bring the colt to Jesus. 7 And they throw their cloaks on it, and He sat on it. 8 And many spread their cloaks on the road. And others spread leafy-branches, having cut them from the fields. 9 And the ones going ahead and the ones following were crying-out “Hosanna! Blessed is the One coming in the name of the Lord.
How will someone not popular get such a BIG welcome from the crowd?

There is no Jewish or Roman custom to release a criminal at passover so clearly this was a made up story.

May you have wisdom

Once again you missed the import of what you quoted!
It has been prophesied that the Messiah will ride on a donkey into Jerusalem! Zechariah 9:9

So after they've heard lots of news about those healed by this great prophet they were all anticipating his glorious entrance into Jerusalem as spoken of by Zechariah the prophet. That day they were overjoyed but his face has nothing to do with them because they were expecting a turnaround in their situation.

What you still don't understand is that you already know Buhari, Osinbajo, Sanwoolu through television and newspapers so when they're coming you already have the picture of who you're expecting to see. But in this case Jesus rode into Jerusalem once and as they knew that such an event has been prophesied by a prophet his face means nothing to the crowd what they wanted is a CHANGE of their country's situation back then!

So don't think a person's face could be registered in your memory just once when you never know him before then!

We all know that government do pardon some criminals till today so you have no point in the release of a criminal being granted amnesty!

Workch:
So you think you are intelligent like this?
You who don't know anything outside of the Bible

Please share with me the BENEFITS of your KNOWLEDGE outside the Bible?

IMAliyu:
Honestly, I don't know.. I don't know if I'm even capable of belief, as Christians and Muslims use the word, as I'm not sure of what it means anymore.

I have reason to be agnostic to the question of God, so I don't know, I have no perceptions or opinion on how anyone can or should relate to God.

"Fellow atheist" really man? right after I just told you.

So you're an atheist!
To BELIEVE connotes TRUST and you can't trust what you don't understand, that's exactly why your cohorts are claiming "ATHEISTS"
Now this is what it means to believe someone:
When a person PROMISE you something your actions afterwards will serve as evidence that you trusted (believed) in his promises.
So it's not about SEEING the person face to face like most of your cohorts do think. You don't need to see someone before TRUSTING in his promises.
Think for a moment:
A man travelled to a far distance land but told his children that whenever they need anything they should call his name and go to his farm that thing will be there waiting for them.
Of course that is unbelievable!
But if you happen to be a friend of one of his children and the child assured you that what both of you need will be provided all he needs to do is call his father's name and go straight to get it in his father's farm.
Will you BELIEVE (TRUST) in the man's word after witnessing such a thing with your own eyes?
That's what BELIEVE means not seeing the man himself because his appearance is of no benefit rather it's what you NEED that's of importance to you.

Whiteman is vague and arbitrary category that means little outside of American racial politics, much like the word blackman. Is an albino a whiteman, is a Northern Hindi person a whiteman? And you haven't explained how it related to your point.

Of the people workch listed, it composed of Jewish, English, French, Italian, European & African American.. people. So I don't understand you attributing their success to such a vague category.

You got the perfect description of what i mean by "whiteman"
Why is it that all your fellow atheists don't quote any African here rather it's always someone from America or Europe?

MrBrownJay1:
funny that you should say that, because as history taught us, that same xtianity religion has been the reason for countless wars/crusades, extermination of entire civilizations etc....but you have the audacity to call this religion of peace, you must be truly misinformed!
BTW isnt it your "supposedly" peaceful holybook that teaches that
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 .” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.
Exodus 21:15
“Whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death.
Leviticus 20:9
“‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head.
Leviticus 20:10... If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24... If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.
Leviticus 21:9... If a priest’s daughter defiles herself by becoming a prostitute, she disgraces her father; she must be burned in the fire.
Deuteronomy 22:20-21... If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the young woman’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done an outrageous thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.
Matthew 5:29-30... If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
Matthew 5:30...And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

But i thought you said you are HIGHLY EDUCATED?

Well let me TEACH you!

God rescued a nation out of slavery in Egypt and gave them rules that will make them different from all other nations {Exodus 19:5} afterwards He told them all these laws can't lead them to everlasting life which He purposed in the beginning it can only guide them to the time the model man will be born in their midst, it's this model man that will lead them to Paradise! Deuteronomy 18:19-19

So CHRISTIANS followers of Christ have no business with the laws given to the nation of Israel since we knew Jesus through the preaching and teaching of his disciples not through the ancient prophets of Israel.
Galatians 3:19-25 compare to Romans 10:2-4

That's why Jesus taught his own disciples what totally contradicts the thoughts former prophets infused in their hearts {Matthew 5:43-48} he even told them never to raise weapons in settling disputes! Matthew 26:52
In fact that's why his people rejected him because his manner of reasoning sounds totally strange to them! John 10:20

So you only READ the book (Bible) you never STUDIED it, CHRISTIANITY has nothing to copy from the attitude of ancient Israelites all what we need is in Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

lifeoman:
teach him, he needs to learn.

Let's see how intelligent they truly are!