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cornelboy:
Didn't you say always?
Everyone has the right to follow the thread.
Stop complaining that JWs are here.
If you have issues with Max, face him alone.
What's your problem with that?
Are you working for the GB?
It was there all along.
You know when you said always, it was a lie. He posted that once in last two years.
How did always come in?
Seriously? You gonna quote that forever?
So what's your problem with it?
You want us to follow a conflicting advice?
Irannileti pe "you no get sense"?
Let him test it on himself, he didn't ask for your help abi?
Or is it that your forcing ro test your own medication on him?

They're not comfortable with my presence because they know how tough my comments can be and how easily i will destroy their lies.
Before now many Churchgoers do join them in criticizing JW organization but due to the way i often respond to their accusations most Nairalanders have discovered that this Apostates have nothing really against JWs.
Because i will push them to a corner where their supporters will see that they hate anyone who is subjecting to Jesus' teachings!

Hismasterpiece:
All you've said does not explain the parable rich man and lazarus. And the Scriptures about the lake of fire in the book of revelations being a place where people are tormented day and night. The Bible clearly says that they are tormented day and night and the smoke of their torment ascends forever. It also says that the rich man was being tormented too.
What do you have to say to that? The Bible is very careful in its description of the lake of fire and even goes as far as to say that death and hades were thrown into it.

All these questions Jehovah's Witnesses will help you find answers in your copy of the Bible if you listen to them when they approach you.

What we are doing here is just to present the truth for sincere and honest hearted individuals so that when they pick interest our brothers/sisters out there will continue to TEACH them.

Hismasterpiece:
Amen, bro.

Perhaps you will welcome them now and allow them speak instead of banking on the things pastors told you about us that made you hate us even labelling us as "Pharisees"

oteneaaron:
Lol this is the third time you're accusing me of answering myself on a thread.
Why do you think I have such time?
Is that what you do and you think other people are like you too?
So now I am peddling lies abi?
There is PROOF.
You don't even understand the question I asked you earlier.
Let me break it down - read it slowly.
According to your history in 1919, Jesus rescued you from Babylon the Great and made you the "one true religion"
So this means that after searching ALL the other religions in the world, Jesus selected your CULT based on the doctrines you were teaching in 1919.
This means he gave you the pass mark based on your doctrinal teachings of 1919.
But after 103 years in the year 2022, we now see that you are no longer teaching any of your 1919 doctrines -
Why?
What happened to the doctrines that Jesus used as a criteria to chose you as the "one true religion"
Does Jesus, your "Sprit King" make mistakes?

It's because you've sealed your heart that's why it's so difficult for you to understand what i'm telling you.
So read carefully now in order to know what question you will ask next!

The lies you're peddling is about God's organization having a share in the production of ammunitions. That's a complete lie if anyone tell you don't believe it it's a LIE.
As for Jesus choosing Jehovah's Witnesses organization, it's not due to our doctrines because Jesus said in the Bible that when he returns he will not find the type of FAITH he taught in the first century! Luke 18:8

So what will be the criteria for choosing any group of persons as his future subjects to start all over again with the preaching and teaching program he commissioned in the first century?

To answer that question we must go back to how he gathered his first century followers, Jesus selected people who are humble and obedient, they must be TEACHABLE in order for them to bend quickly to the new light! Proverbs 4:18

Out of all the religions back then only these group bears a name that could attract any TEACHER like Jesus: INTERNATIONAL BIBLE STUDENTS ASSOCIATION! Matthew 23:8

Students are people who are willing to learn like young children {Mark 10:14 compare to Matthew 18:4} so Jesus chose this organization because they made themselves TEACHABLE not because they had a better teaching than others!

peterincredible:
Bros pls don't place your whole life and reality on a single book pls try to be more open minded and read other books(quaran,Vedas,sefer yetzira) and other spiritual books abeg religion don cause too much wahala for the world, I won't reply you again because you are too close minded gracias

Well i only came to prove to you that the only living God is the God of Israel so you're entitled to your own opinion!
Goodbye!

oteneaaron:
Stories you say?
Your CULT is still maintaining their shares in companies that product weapons - this is still PRESENT.
Moreso, to understand the PRESENT and plan for the FUTURE, we must first understand the PAST.
You can't just wave the past away.
Which "spirit king"?
The same "spirit king" that brought your CULT out of Babylon the Great in 1919, but you have completely changed all your doctrines since that same 1919?
Are you saying your "spirit king" was confused when he selected you based on your teachings of 1919?

Keep peddling lies up and down!
You're tired of responding to yourself on the other thread Shey?

The mighty spirit King we're talking about here is called Jesus of Nazareth who proved to be the CHRIST in the first century.
According to his attitude back then he chose people who are OBEDIENT not vast in the laws so evidently he chose this organization due to the way they are ready to obey him and adjust their understanding of the scriptures.
So there's no doubt Sir it's Jesus that's leading this organization that's why they have become the most peaceful and peaceloving group in the whole world. He is the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6

peterincredible:
Christians and bashing other books and religion hmmm Bros pls go and read it before you comment

Guy you're not ready for intellectual talks!

It's not a must that you listen to all the Gods in the world before you know the Creator.

Out of all the Gods ever heard of throughout the whole world only the Bible God foretold {Malachi 3:16} and ordered His worshipers to go out and start what you're trying to do now which is reasoning with your neighbours on matters having to do with Godliness! Matthew 10:11-13; 24:14; 28:18-20

And to confirmed that He is the Creator who can promise and fulfill His promises the God of the Bible referred to all other Gods as blind, maim, deaf and paralyzed {Psalms 115:4-7} He even said those trusting (believing) in those Gods will become as handicap as their Gods.

So where are the Witnesses of those Gods if they truly exist?

oteneaaron:
You erased "politics", but it is on record with proof that your CULT registered with the United Nations for 10 SOLID YEARS.

You erased "military services", but it on record with proof that your CULT has major shares in big buck companies that produce military weapons.

How can "God's direct channel of communication" be saying one thing in PUBLIC and still be doing the OPPOSITE in secret?

Is that not hypocrisy?

It is you who needs your indoctrinated power of reasoning checked ASAP.

This is the problem you're having:
STORIES! STORIES!! STORIES!!!

Please i'll advise you to try writing stories for Nollywood movie producers at least that will yield some benefits for you.
I'm talking about PRESENT performance of a group you're telling PAST events, what removed your thinking cap that it's the mighty spirit King who returned in 1914 that's been correcting them?

oteneaaron:
Beating around the bush must be your second nature.
Your greatest enemy are your own publications.
Your history as a CULT has been marred by FAKE prophecies:
1. Charles Taze Russell: The world will end in 1878 - It didn't happen
2. Charles Taze Russell - The world will end in 1881 - It didn't happen
3. Charles Taze Russell - The world will end in 1914 - it didn't happen
4. JF Rutherford - The world will end in 1918 - it didn't happen
5. JF Rutherford - Abraham and Co will be resurrected in 1925 - it didn't happen
6. Nathan Knor - the world will end in 1975 - it still didn't happen.
For a CULT that claims to be "God's direct channel of communication", you guys must have hearing the wrong things from the wrong channel.
Why is your history all built on LIES?
Come to think of it, is that why you LIE shamelessly on NL?
Are you just a by-product of all the many LIES and FAKE PROPHECIES from your leaders?

You love stories my friend and it's not a bad thing but upon all your stories the group in question is the one and only organization that has successfully gathered millions and erased racism, politics and military services from their hearts! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
So how do you now prove that such a group that's successfully achieved what all the organizations ever formed in the history of mankind failed to achieve doesn't have God's backing? James 2:18-26

Guy something is wrong with your power of reasoning Sir!

Nova1982:
Well according to the bible in Deuteronomy 22:28-29 the easiest way to get a virgin wife is to rape any hot virgin girl you see then you should give her father money(like she's an object) then you can marry her, easy as ABC.

isn't the bible just beautiful? look at how easy it is to get yourself a beautiful virgin wife!

Christianity is the best!

You know sometimes i wonder why most of you atheists don't exhibit your talent as stand up comedians?
Even though you misconstrued it all but i must confess if you're a clown in a circus you'll bring great gain!

AntiChristian:
We were informed in the Qur'an about Jesus. No Politics.
I think you remember the blunders you made when discussing about Moses and Jesus similarities. Moses was political unlike Jesus who was apolitical.

You got it totally wrong Sir!

Political means deciding what should be in the midst of a multitude: while Moses is only following the laid down rules from the God of Israel just like any other Israelite.
So how do you call that political?

AntiChristian:
No be Jesus of 1914 that came with Lord Lugard o!

But has there ever been a time when any Muslim preached about Jesus' abstinence from politics before 1914?
So if you a Muslim now quote Jesus' speech and applied it to abstinence from politics, then it's the same Jesus who returned in 1914 that you are preaching not the one misinformed religionists claiming Christians have been preaching yet struggling for political offices as CHRISTIANS (followers of Christ)

oteneaaron:
Lol.
You didn't drive home any point.
You got stuck in your own LIES.

Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

“I have spoken these things to you while I am still with you. But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you" John 14:25-26

We know when the Holy Spirit teaches because we will SEE the BENEFITS of such teachings {Matthew 7:16-18} while you will continue quoting and quoting and quoting like the Pharisees does back then in the first century but there will be no BENEFITS that will come out of your quotings!

oteneaaron:
You have no shame.
Lying through your teeth.
Moreso, you didn't drive home any point.
You got stuck in a quagmire of your own LIES.

Keep crying Mr Atheist!
You're entitled to your PERSONAL opinion, i've driven home the points so if you're not OK with it then it's your problem not mine!

oteneaaron:
Ready to learn what exactly?

To learn about your failed prophecies?

Or to learn about how you habour Child Sexual Abusers in your midst?

Or is to learn that we are in the "final part of the last day, undoubtedly the final part of the final part of the last days" , according to your beloved GB Stephen Lett?

I have NOTHING to learn from you, a man who LIES shamelessly, and cannot admit to his own LIE.

Cry me a river!
All these people made errors in their works before their success.
Benjamin Franklin
Karl Benz
Wright Brothers
Isaac Newton

I read stories of all these people and BELIEVED (TRUSTED) not because i saw any of them but because i saw the BENEFITS of their stories so it's stupid for me to start doubting their stories when the evidence is here before me!

Jehovah's Witnesses claimed Jesus returned in the year 1914 and i'm seeing a global family of peace loving worshipers, zealously preaching and industriously teaching from door to door in all the countries around the world {Matthew 10:11-13} they're not in support of any nation so they don't go to wars {John 15:19} they have the same line of thought {John 17:22} they have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} they don't allow interfaith in their midst {Matthew 16:6-12} and they're able to gather obedient people from all races under the heavens under control! Act 1:8

So if you just want to equate such a story with any other stories i won't drag anything with you all i need is EVIDENCE!

Onewazobia:
I have no dougth this post is sponsor by Jehovah Witness (JW). It will be clear in due time

Ikorodureporta is not a JW o!

oteneaaron:
You are just yarning DUST
Did you or did you not misquote the story of David and Saul?
Is that not an UNTRUTH which is also known as a LIE?
Stop running around in circles.

My guy, your support doesn't change the fact that i drove home my point while your friend is only quoting without showing any usefulness of his arguments!

oteneaaron:
Hahahaha
Another yarning of DUST.
So why do you believe Jesus arrived invisibly in 1914, and five years later in 1919, he choose your CULT as the "one true religion" ? -
Were you there when it happened?
Was it not WRITTEN in your own Book - Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers of Gods Kingdom?

Now you're ready to LEARN!
I BELIEVE that because i'm seeing the positive results throughout the world!
If it's WRITTEN but there's no positive results anywhere then that simply means it's a LIE!
Do you now see reasons for my BELIEF?

oteneaaron:
Hahahaha

I literally laughed at the meme you attached.

Max is both judge and jury, consistently shooting himself in the foot.

He doesn't even know the history of his religion and can't obey a simple instruction from his beloved Governing Body.

Wonders shall never end ��

That has been your anthem from day one and i keep telling you that i'm not interested in stories but what is yielding positive results!

So whatever stories you want to make out of any religion doesn't count to me because the stories never happened in your presence, all you have is what's written in books.
You can't sell stories to right thinking persons when your stories isn't yielding anything nah!

oteneaaron:
When caught LYING, all you do is run around in circles. You confidently made a statement that turned out to be false. You were caught LYING against your own holy scripture. After Archoladey called you out, instead of admitting that you made a mistake and mis-quoted the story of David and Saul, you are here yarning dust, talking about "practical applications " Where was your "practical application" when you were just called out for LYING against your own holy scripture?
HYPOCRISY in its best form!!

Ọ̀gá you only believe in yourself nah so how do you think you can comprehend what's going on here?

Well let me enlighten you!

There are two things that always contend with each other:
TRUTH and LIE

Ironically at times individuals on the side of LIE do strongly believe they have the TRUTH while confused observers will support them.
But only those on the side of the TRUTH can apply what they have to yield positive results while those on the side of LIE will continue dragging issues among themselves with no positive results!

So here we are talking about something that's beyond your grasp therefore instead of blindly supporting one side why not ask for the benefit of what each side is trying to establish?

Àbí you don't think TRUTH could be proved beyond blind arguments? Matthew 7:16-18

No wonder you can't present any group that's practicing what the Bible says as it never make any sense to you!

Of course a true Christian will substantiate to help others put faith in what is written in God's word.
Go and argue with Apostle John who wrote in the Bible:

No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at the Father’s side is the one who has explained Him. John 1:18

Whereas it was written in the same Bible that God knew Moses face to face! Deuteronomy 34:10
or
Jacob wrestle with God and won! Genesis 32:28

You can also argue with James who said God doesn't test anyone with evil things {James 1:13} whereas God said He tested the Israelites in the furnace of affliction! Isaiah 48:10

You can also drag with Jesus who said there's no prophet greater than John the baptist {Matthew 11:11} when Deuteronomy 34:10 there never risen another prophet like Moses!

And the war between the house of Saul and the house of David came to be long drawn out

Only true Christians {JWs) can TEACH you the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading in the Bible, otherwise you will never make any sense that's applicable anywhere hence you're READING but can't APPLY!

Saul who was not doing Jehovah’s will up till his death was called God's anointed by David and still kill an Amalekite to defend someone not doing GOD'S WILL.

YES! I am an agent of the Intelligence!

Saul was no longer fighting for Jehovah but for his own selfish ambitions hence he lost God's favour. Jonathan supposed not follow such self-willed leader to battle because he (Saul) has lost the war even before going at all since Jehovah the one who is the Commander in Chief giving them the order to go or not has condemned Saul as King over his people.

So at that time Saul was doing his own will not Jehovah's otherwise he shouldn't be seeking the life of Jehovah's anointed King rather he supposed to support David if truly he's on Jehovah's side!

Perhaps they're not fully convinced about the religion their parents handed over to them.
I attended the meetings of Jehovah's Witnesses last week and the youths are fully prepared to go out to preach and teach as usual.
Do expect them at your doorstep soon!

Are the house of David and house of Saul at war? Are they Jehovah’s witnesses?

The war between the two houses was not firmly established, for two sides to be at war for real members of both houses must fully support those who are directly involved in the dispute. So if Saul is seeking the death of David but his own son Jonathan is not in support of such move then it's no longer a full blown war.
Moreover David himself doesn't have anything evil in his mind against Saul he even protected Saul from his own supporters who wanted end Saul's life. It was Saul who harboured intense hatred in his heart against David (Jehovah's anointed King) while those who knew and are acting in line with God's standards are supporting Jehovah's anointed King (David)
Jonathan is the second in command inside Saul's house so as long as he's not in support of his father's intention then it's not a full blown WAR Sir!

Are they Jehovah's Witnesses?

Whoever is against Jehovah's will is no longer a witness of JEHOVAH so only David and Jonathan (Saul's son) proved to be Jehovah's Witnesses in this case, Saul has become Jehovah's enemy for plotting to kill Jehovah's anointed King!

I will continue to expose you worker of iniquity!

peterincredible:
Bros I take God beg you go and find out about the Sumerian tablets and stories you will see full detail about the begining of the human race and infact after doing your research you will know that this Christian Bible is nothing but copy and past, you can dive deeper by reading the emarald tablet and then look at what Jesus Christ have been saying and compare both together you will be shocked by what you will find

The only testable proof God presented as evidence for any honest hearted and sincere researcher has been condemned by so called Bible believers so how are they going to silence critics of the Bible?

Well if you want to know the truth about God it's not just by reading books alone because books could be the handiwork of fabricators who has hidden agenda. So think like an intellectual the question everyone should be asking is:

What is the testable proof that a book was inspired by the Creator?

Then place all these books under scrutiny using the same criteria i'm 100% sure that only the Bible will come out victoriously while others will become worthless.

Thanks!

cornelboy:
What is it called when a Christian Russian soldier kills another Christian brother in Ukraine, God's will?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm Cornelboy!

You're still learning but in the post you quoted the Apostate has short himself in the foot.
The question you supposed to ask him is:
Are both Saul and David doing the will of God that time or one is doing Jehovah's will while the other has become an apostate?

Answer: During the time Saul was at war with David he (Saul) has become an apostate knowing fully well that the same high priest (Samuel) who anointed him as King has anointed David and of course Samuel did Jehovah's will not his own so whatever makes Saul think of fighting against the newly anointed King of Jehovah is no longer appreciated in pure worship.
That is what Jonathan his son knew and stood upon as the truth. So Saul was no longer a JW by the time he started fighting against David he has become an Apostate just as Acholardey who is also fighting against the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses but can't present another anointed priests working for our high priest and King Christ Jesus!

cornelboy:
Don't tell me you don't believe in trinity and the JW belief about God, one person. You wanna stand on the fence again to save face?
Lol. For no reason huh?

What have been doing to helping otenearon from his unbelief?

The first problem of an Apostate is lying boldly as if he has something to gain or propagate but when you look critically into the matter you will discover he is only feeling bitter against the truth.
RusselRutherfo, Acholardey are both Apostates but while the other is trying as much to preach he's confused, 70% of what he wants to preach doesn't go down well with any other religion because Jehovah's Witnesses taught him and he knew that's the truth so he's frustrated.
But as for Acholardey he doesn't say anything at all because he knew everything JWs taught him can't be disputed, he just want the organization to welcome other religions as Christians so he can worship with any religion and still associate with JWs as fellow believers!

AntiChristian:
You teach me?
Where?

Don't worry just continue preaching Jesus, it's a welcomed development!

Sixfiguresmart:
I dont care about what Jehovah's witnesses do. Go there and talk to them. Carry that stupid story comot for my face. I dont have time for that nonsense. Go and get a job or you go to their headquarter and face them. When I meet them, I will settle my ish with them. I dont bloody care about them.
They are the least of my worries. Not even a top ten. I have friends who are JW and we talk issues in details. Whenever I need them, they answer me. They have never ran away from my questions. Not one day. We talk and end up friends. No argument, no raised voice, no insults and no violence. I know what I am talking about. If I call them to my house tomorrow, they will always show up. But I can't do the same for your pastors. That is my problem. I need Adeboye or Leke in my house for conversation. I got questions. I need them to clarify why Adeboye will be selling books for 13 dollars. I need answers to better questions not all these smear campaign and spiteful gibberish.

have I told you before? I dont give a forking hoot about your Jehovah's witnesses madness. Take it to your grandfather. I don't bloody care and there is nothing you tell me about them that will make any sense because they are on my dial. You are on a smear campaign and that is bullsheet. Go and get a better job

if you are not Ken, then do not mention me again. I don't need babies. got no time for that. I am on a mission to remove the demon in Ken. no time for all these baby nonsense.
farewell

Na wa o!

Shame on all the enemies of pure worship!

Abbey117:
I have been privileged to experience both muslim faith and christian faith but I won't lie I find it challenging to submit to any of them.

As a muslim I observed my five times prayers but later stopped due to the fact that I strongly objected to some rules attached to it like don't eat from a non Muslim mostly female you're not married to, dating is wrong, don't celebrate some festivals, don't do this and don't do that...

I later joined the christian faith but I pretty much find it hard to proclaim Jesus as my Lord and savior because I strongly believe that God is One and shouldn't be compared to human.

Being neutral makes me feel I'm not committed and irresponsible.

Pls how do I get through this. I'll strongly appreciate your opinion.
Thanks

Your story really looks like mine before i became one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
In fact i used to see this group in the streets but i never had any direct dealings with them.
I later realized that my parents have been the hindrance why i never heard from Jehovah's Witnesses.
Well all that is in the past now, i am now a true believer as in one who have the wisdom to convince you that nobody can worship the true God without the gathering of His people!

The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING so for you to truthfully be a BELIEVER in God you must be able to IDENTIFY the assembly of fellow believer in the one who is supreme.
That is the one and only evidence that you know the one who is invisible, if you can't see the face of a ruler you must know His subjects in order to know what He's capable of doing.

Everyone in Nigeria today is blaming Buhari not because this man is a criminal but due to the fact that his subjects aren't enjoying what he promised before becoming the president of Nigeria.

So there are many lords and many gods but for you to IDENTIFY the Almighty God you must know His plans (just as Buhari promised before becoming the president of Nigeria) find out what are the things God promised will be happening in the gathering of His own worshipers?

There are many presidents in the world and each of them made a promise before their subjects voted them into power that's exactly the same way the Almighty God does with His own subjects. He doesn't force Himself on anyone but made a promise to those that choose to subject themselves to his standards.

So what is God's promise regarding those that subject themselves to his standards?

You and i can reason together on this i believe you will have the peace and joy that comes from the true God! Isaiah 1:18