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The truth is that real BORN AGAIN Christians will never tell you they're BORN AGAIN!
Do you know real BORN AGAIN Christians consume alcoholic drinks?
Well i know this will shock many because they are deceived by misinformed Churchgoers claiming Christians.
The term BORN AGAIN is not something to brag about neither is it that cheap as many Churchgoers do claim they are.

Mikee19:
Janosky I understand the urge to rush to defend your beliefs to show it's right. But really, you don't have to, especially when it can be obvious to neutrals that you had to switch up someone's words to do so. Sometimes just be humble and admit you do not know, nothing bad in that. The others kept quiet. You should have too.

In the congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses not all of us are gifted as TEACHERS, some have the gift of SHEPHERDING, PROPHECY, APOSTLE! Ephesians 4:11
All males that stood firm in the organization we train them to become elders (mature members)
WHY? Because no idle worshiper will see God's Kingdom! We must all WORK (SLAVE) for our God, in fact that's what it means to SERVE JEHOVAH.
I remembered when i'm still a Muslim we use to say "nobody is SERVING God rather it's God that's SERVING us" because we believe it's someone doing us favour that's serving us and that's true so since we don't know in anyway we're doing anything for God we concluded we're not SERVING God.

But when i started studying with JWs i realized that serving God means rendering selfless services for the benefit of all in the congregation. So the GIFTS we have to serve in the congregations differs, that's why i told you to present your questions directly and quote/mention me. Let's see why over 8 million people globally believe that JW.org is the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught.

May you have PEACE!

badboyTee:
am back on NL Mr. Max and am here to tackle you and your lies leggo!

You are welcome Sir!
I keep getting more and more fans like you, though most of them love to learn from me directly but i always direct them to JWs in their neighbourhood while many like you think it's lies. So if you know what lies truly mean you're welcome on board!

elated177:
He knew I wasn't ever going to do such a thing.
Where did he not say yes or no?

He gave you the best confirmation ever!

If anyone outside Nigeria asked a Nigerian "are you enjoying the present government?"
A YES/NO is not as good as "go to Nigeria and ask Nigerians"

BriskhoffBox:
Did you say he can't think evil?

That is what HOLY means, Someone who CAN'T think of evil!

cornelboy:
If Samuel spirit was somewhere in the earth and God didn't answer Saul by dreams, urim and by the prophets, you think he would allow the spirit of a holy prophet to be summoned by a spiritist? Where do you think Samuel's spirit got the prophecy from? From God? A spirit impersonated Samuel and took his appearance and gave some prophecy obviously not from God.
There some things the Bible really didn't make clear.

Lots of sacred secrets that's hidden from you, i supposed to reveal it now but the time given me is limited. However the Holy Spirit which my father will send in my name will reveal all the remaining sacred secrets to you! ~ Jesus of Nazareth {John 16:12-13}
Compare to Daniel 12:10

So it's not compulsory we continue arguing with unbelievers, if anyone feels like seeing everything written in white and black in the Bible before believing what is yielding positive results throughout the earth, please them continue in their unbelief. They have judged themselves already! Because if they're asking to see everything written in plain words before believing what Jesus' brothers taught us, ask them where TRINITY and RAPTURE are found in the Bible. If there's nowhere those things are written in God's word yet they believe without seeing any benefit of such doctrines.
Then they have no excuse to doubt the teachings that Samuel can't speak after death! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10
So let him continue demanding for where it's written that the spirit is a demon when the Bible already informed us that the dead are UNCONSCIOUS!

God forgives all sins that man commits no matter what it is but knowing God's plan, seeing it working out and consistently kicking against it is UNFORGIVABLE!

WHY?

God will never come down to speak to anyone who sees and knows the activities of God's Holy Spirit yet speaking against it.

Jesus spoke of people that committed the unforgivable.
For instance, people in Noah's day:
They were all affected by the activities of the evil giants, they expected God to do something about it, so they're contemplating what God will do, Noah told them what God revealed to him, they didn't believe Noah but they saw him
©Building a big house of wood.
©Using materials to make it float on water.
©Gathering animals domestic and wild.
©Birds of the air went to join Noah in the Ark.

All these couldn't have been possible for any human without the backing of God's Holy Spirit working towards the plan to destroy those rebellious giants, so if anyone should open his mouth to speak against Noah's actions such a person is not sinning against Noah but against God's ACTIVE FORCE working with Noah!

We return to where we come from!

BriskhoffBox:
Does that mean he can't foresee everything?

He is HOLY (PURE) so it's unthinkable for Him to think of EVIL! Habakkuk 1:13
He can only foresee anything having to do with His purposes whether positive or negative so He can map out plans to avoid the bad and support the good.
He won't give Himself the pain of having to go through what each imperfect humans will do in the future otherwise He will always be sad {Genesis 6:6} so to keep His happy mood always He focus only on His GOOD plans! 1Timothy 1:11

Dorwadora:
I would love to know sir.

Satan created countless religious groups to complicate things for people who don't want to go through all the stress of recognizing pure worship.
But pure worship belongs only to those who are humble and obedient. Satan capitalized on arrogant religionists so he create countless sects for them that they may choose any that soothes them.
So Satan guves people contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines throughout the world so that if you scrutinize most people they can't even distinguish between the attributes of God and that of Satan.

Today pure worship has stand out so all the religions under Satan's control can't contend with pure worship due to the attributes of God that Satan and his worshipers can't exhibit! Matthew 5:14-16

Soon my brother they will have to know that He is JEHOVAH {Ezekiel 38:23} and all others will go hiding with their Gods! Luke 23:30; Revelations 6:16

Opinion thins!

He has proved His Almightiness beyond mere arguments!

Almighty means ability to SOLVE all problems not to know all things!
So there's a great difference between ability to solve problems and ability to foresee everything!

cornelboy:
Yeah one at a time.
But you haven't told me what thought about what I put up there there.
I think we should finish it first.

In Jesus' parable of Lazarus and the rich man he said a great chasm has been fixed between Lazarus and the rich man so that there's no way for anyone to crossover to the other side. Luke 16:26

Lazarus symbolised humble and obedient humans who will easily yield to the truth and start making changes quickly to fit in to the side of the TRUTH!

The rich man symbolized arrogant people who never want discipline or any restraint, so even though they appreciate humbly people they just want to keep to their arrogance but at the same time they will like to say they're on the same page with the humbly and obedient ones!

Note how the rich man keeps referring to God as "father Abraham" {Luke 16:24; 30} yet the objection "NO" to whatever Father Abraham says keep coming from his mouth! Luke 16:30

So the true God is using the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses to assemble humble and obedient mankind today, let those who aren't ready to be submissive remain on the other side of the GREAT Chasm.
No wonder the parable says the rich man has FIVE brothers {Luke 16:28} Jesus' use of figure FIVE has shown that it connotes people from different races throughout the earth so it's either a person is part of the FIVE who are wise or the FIVE who are foolish! Matthew 25:2

Almighty means able to solve all problems that could come up no matter what but knowing all the things humans given freewill will choose to do?
NO!
God doesn't know that!
That's why it could be said that He regretted {Genesis 6:6} otherwise it makes no sense for creating humans who He knew will go against His good plans for them.
When He said "I know the end from the beginning" {Revelations 1:8} He meant His plans will surely work out as he purposed and nothing can stop Him from fulfilling His purposes no matter what imperfect humans choose to do! Isaiah 55:8-11
His advice to humble and obedient humans is to trust Him fully because He will surely see to it that we get the everlasting benefits of life just as he planned it from the beginning! Matthew 25:34

Hismasterpiece:
Ok oo.. I sha know that my God is the One who sent Jesus to Earth, who raised Him from death, who exalted Him to His Right Hand, and who will send Him again to Judge the world.
If that's not your God, then according to your own doctrine, you will perish.

Great!
So know that it's not just by claiming belonging to what is written in the Bible, Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis all claimed they believe in what earlier prophets said yet they disagree with Jesus and his group!
So your claims means nothing to me if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses your God differs from mine and of course you know what that means!

elated177:
This is not a confirmation, cornelboy.

How else do you want someone to confirm a fact?

Cornelboy said "you can go to any of their Kingdom Halls to ask if this is true"
How else do you think you can confirm this?

It takes higher Intelligence to unravel the mystery behind this but i don't know if you're surely interested in getting to the roof of this!

Well i'm Maximus, one of Jehovah's Witnesses, will you like to know HOW and WHY this happened?

kullozone:
You guys never change.
Same thing with your publications. Always lieing and dodging questions... Or are you a bot with automated answers

I don't really know what you want or what you're driving at.
There is just one true God and He promised to always support and fight for His worshipers if only they will stick to His righteous standards! Exodus 19:5

You quoted a verse saying the same God didn't fulfil his promises at a point in time when a king from another nation sacrificed his son to his own God in anticipation of conquering the people God promised to fight for and this king was able to push away the Israelites. And i showed you in the same chapter that the Israelites were no longer keeping the covenant the true God made with them so God also did not support them in that place.
Please what exactly do you want again?

The two most favorite Bible quotes to me said exactly the same thing:

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

From Genesis to Revelation sounds like stories to me that similar things could be found in some other books regarded as sacred, but this quote proves that only the Bible is inspired by the one and only true God.
How?
There is no other religion book that has ever point to what it's real adherents will be doing in future times except the Bible. In this verse God's word clearly stated that people will come from all the nations of the earth which means it's not all the inhabitants of the earth that will become adherents of the Bible.
Note the word "MOUNTAIN" which symbolises RELIGION so God's word likens all the RELIGIONS on this planet to MOUNTAINS that are situated in different locations on this planet. Each religion has it's root and the race that started it so the Bible specifically mentioned "house of Jacob" so that any reader could know the race that started this religion. Then it goes on to say that humble and obedient individuals from all the earth will come under one umbrella to start obeying the things found in the history of the house of Jacob {Zechariah 8:23} then what will be the sign that this thing has begun? God's word answered that throughout the world people will be discussing with their neighbours about God and righteousness {Malachi 3:16} but this will affect all other religions so we need to know which one truly comes from the true God! Malachi 3:18
So how do we know which one comes from the true God? Jesus of Nazareth answered saying "By their FRUITS you will identify each religion" {Matthew 7:16-18} and what is the expected FRUIT of true religion?
Isaiah and Micah answered:
Adherents of this religion will beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3
This means during the time when politics and racism has led people throughout the earth to build weapons of mass destruction to kill one another {Revelations 6:3-4} God's own people will use what's found in the Bible to resolve all racial disparities within them, divert all their resources into the production of food and information materials, they will not enrol in the army neither will they support wars again!

If you're able to IDENTIFY any religion that has successfully achieved this then i congratulate you with this warm assurance.
When evildoers are all gone {Psalms 37:7-11} when greedy politicians are no more {Daniel 2:44} when there is no more infirmities, sickness or death {Revelations 21:3-5} See you there in Paradise! Luke 23:43

Hismasterpiece:
Lol.. we go still jam for there las las

Guy, stop deceiving yourself!
You're always against Jehovah's Witnesses organization (Watchtower) yet you're anticipating a member of such organization in heaven (your most cherished destination)
Do you also anticipate members of other sects in your so called heaven? NO!
But as for JWs whom you always claim aren't in a good organization (Watchtower) you're quick to attach yourself to me, calling me brother, saying you and i worship the same God and believers.

Well let me make one thing clear to you today, it may hurt you but it's the TRUTH:

If you're not a member of Watchtower you will PERISH!

Just in case you don't know, that's the confirmed truth, you may decide to say the same thing back at me no problem, just know that anyone outside JW organization will perish and we are not worshiping the same God with you people!

Hismasterpiece:
Okay, NEIGHBOR, I rest my case! I look forward to meeting you in Heaven some day.

Wahala dey o!
Well i have nothing to do in heaven Sir!

elated177:
Can any two of your brothers here confirm this? Where are janosky, cornelboy, etc?

Quote the post before any JW throughout the world, in fact try to pretend as if you heard it somewhere, any JW will tell you it's from one of our brothers!
That's why people fear us as the one and only group that has the same line of thought! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10

kullozone:
Brother man, I know all these.
What I'm talking about this time is the fact that the Israelites retreated because of king Mesha's sacrifice of his first son to his god... His god unleashed a great wrath on Israel even though God gave them (Israel) the go-ahead to destroy the moabites through the word of Elisha the prophet.
THE SACRIFICE THE KING MADE STOPPED ISRAEL'S ATTACK... IN OTHER WORDS, ANOTHER GOD STOPPED JEHOVAH'S WORD AND EVEN SENT WRATH AGAINST THE ISRAELITES.
Whether Jehovah had abandoned the Israelites before, it doesn't matter because in this case He sent his word 2 KINGS 3:14-16 through his prophet, Elisha(probably the best prophet at the time). So Jehovah was with Israelites in this attack... But after some victory on their side, the Moab god actually made them turn back by inflicting his wrath on them, thereby overturning Jehovah's words.
You get me now
But if you no understand me, don't bother replying again

Idolatry broke the covenant God had with them so they've become like any other nation!

Janosky:
Does electromagnetic waves exist?
How many times have you touched electromagnetic waves ?

Please allow him rest because he will come back now insulting, abusing and cursing people as if anyone is forcing God on his head!

elated177:
Maxindhouse, are all what you said above your own views or the teachings of your group?

That's what we preach and teach throughout the world so only those that believe in what we preach and teach are worshipers of our God. That's why we are always helping anyone who slumbers, sleeps or falls spiritually in our midst but all those who refuses to be helped are taken as unrepentant sinners so we DISFELLOWSHIP them. But as long as anyone admits his error and willing to take in counsel as help they can continue in our midst washing their dirty robes in the blood of the lamb!

Hismasterpiece:
So you don't acknowledge me as a believer?
So if I pray to Jesus and say, 'Lord Jesus, I believe you are the Son of God and that you died on the cross for my sins. I believe you were buried, raised on the third day and are seated at the Right Hand of God and will come again to Judge the living and the dead' that doesn't make me a Christian?
Explain to me please.

Of course you're a believer after all Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Traditionalists, Buddhists and many more also BELIEVES in their various Gods, but as regards my own God only JWs believe in Him so they are my own fellow believers in the same God.

According to Jesus (God's only begotten Son) Paradise is designed for obedient mankind and God laid the foundation in the garden of Eden with Adam and Eve (a pair) so if anyone wants to live forever in Paradise where there will be no hatred, jealousy or strife leading to SORROW then we must revert to the standard God set in the BEGINNING! Matthew 19:4

This may be heard for many to adapt that's why Jesus said from the day of John the baptist the Kingdom of heaven has become difficult to gain entrance and only the strong at heart can get in! Matthew 11:12

WHY?

Because God declared people who were polygamist "RIGHTEOUS" as they're able to live by the standard they understood while they're awaiting the Christ who will teach them how to live in Paradise! Deuteronomy 18:18-19 compare to Act 3:22

But after John the baptist Jesus' ministry has begun and all what those people missed back then are now taught and whoever failed to abide by the law of the Christ will not enter God's Kingdom even if such a person perfected all the laws before the coming of Christ! Luke 18:18-25

Some of God's servants in the past pursued riches and became rich but after Jesus whoever pursue riches is no longer on the path of righteousness! Matthew 6:24

Likewise before Christ some of God's servants like Abraham, Jacob, Elkanah, David and Solomon lived with more than one woman but after Jesus' statement as recorded in the Bible book of Matthew 19:4, whoever goes back to what those people did and wants to live by it is on his own.
None of us (if we have a say) will like our dad to marry another woman to come and become rival to our mum or allow his son in-law to bring in another woman and become a rival to our daughter {Matthew 7:12} so that's the new light only those who welcome it are God's children! John 3:19

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Hismasterpiece:
Amen, bro. Well done! Keep it up! You'll be rewarded by God Himself.

I always correct most people who likes referring to me as bother (bro) note that you're not my brother but neighbour!

You can relate with someone as brother through birth (blood relation) through work (business) through faith (believers)

So if you're not related to me in any of these three then you're not my brother in any way rather you're one out of billions of neighbours i have on planet earth.

You can only be my brother if we have the same line of thought {John 17:22} that's why JWs refer to ourselves as "BROTHERS" {Matthew 12:46-50 compare to Matthew 23:8} not because we're chatting on faceless forum!

Hismasterpiece:
What in the world are you inferring? I understand not.

Keep what you're able to understand, at least it's better than nothing!

Mikee19:
Excellent stuff MaxInDHouse. Do not descend to their level. How hard can it be simply to let facts be facts and let them speak for themselves? Sigh..
Having said this you did not respond to scripture I gave. And this is just one of many. I believe, and can show, just as scripturally as i did there, the error of your organization. And I'll do so more soon. Cheers

In a big market it's impossible for anyone to converse with everyone so if you truly want answers to your questions just forward them and quote me. You'll be surprised how much you're missing out if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses.

May you have PEACE!